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#5361 FoolishYoungling

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Posted 14 March 2016 - 05:03 AM

^ It's so beautiful. Thank you hinataiscreepy. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Edit: She may not be strong enough but who knows what kind of twist and surprise her character could show. Morally, she is definitely on the right track and that's enough to hope that her character (alongside Smoker and Coby) could make a huge impact to the WG at the end of the series.

Oda already said he named her Tashigi because "it means a bird that can't fly, but just because you can't fly doesn't mean you won't someday." A bird that can fly is 100000x more useful than one that can't. She's going to see a spike in power, and surpass Tsuru.


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Posted 14 March 2016 - 03:44 PM

Nami did and thinks highly of her.
 
Tashigi is probably one of the most respectable marine along Smoker and Coby of the new generation. She may sound self righteous but as a matter of fact she always did the right thing when the main characters needed her to do so. I mean she helped them save Alabasta when she saw crocodile was there real bad guy and swallowed her pride to do what's right. She did not capture the main characters when the other piece of kitten marines tried to persuade her to do despite the straw hats doing their job, saving their asses, and the country so that they could be "promoted". That's admirable as hell and fans of the series don't give her fair share of the credit in this arc. In addition, she is extremely relatable in the sense that she is our more naiive self when we thought that our friends, the institutions, and the people we admire may not be as beautiful as they seem and reality hits you hard. However, she is always able to continue and stand up after being crushed by her demons.
 
The straw hats are not characters that scream that they are the best. They are awesome because they make other people around them better. People like Coby would have never progressed or found a purpose if it were not for Luffy beating some sense out of him. Its no different for Tashigi cause she has come to respect the straw hats as good people when Mocha told Kuina look a like what they did for them and ordered her men to stop insulting them. She definitely has stopped seeing justice in white and black and was even happy as hell when Fujitora humiliated the WG regarding Dressrossa as payback for the shameful cover up of Alabasta.
 
Edit: She may not be strong enough but who knows what kind of twist and surprise her character could show. Morally, she is definitely on the right track and that's enough to hope that her character (alongside Smoker and Coby) could make a huge impact to the WG at the end of the series.

Since it wasn't obvious, the only reason I even call her Trashigi or Lameshigi is too mess with FY, so already this character analysis is out of place.

Secondly, Nami thinking highly of her has no bearing on my opinion that Tashigi is not even close to Nami in terms of being a good character. Tashigi is bland, boring, and arrogant. I don't care about her in the least. She isn't good or bad to me, she's just there. She's not as important as FY screams she is, she's not as interesting as FY screams she is.

She's not a great character, it doesn't matter who thinks highly of her within the story.

Edit: oh, and by the way, she only ended up doing the right thing in Alabasta after she got kneecapped by Robin. She initially went to Alabarna to capture the Straw Hats, even though smoker laid out the entire situation for her and she knew that the straw hats were trying to help. She only started doing the right thing because she got humiliated and was too weak to do it her own way. People don't give her credit for the arc because she didn't actually do anything. She didn't do the right thing because it was the right thing to do, she did the right thing because she was forced to. There is zero reason to praise her for it.

I don't really feel like starting another debate on this thread, so I'm done.

Edited by AHK, 14 March 2016 - 05:29 PM.

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#5363 FoolishYoungling

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Posted 14 March 2016 - 05:57 PM

AHK, when Tashigi surpasses Tsuru, you're still allowed to join the Tashigi fanbase. Just make sure you print out a picture of Tashigi, put it on the wall, and bow to it for at least 10 seconds.

 

Saying Tashigi is useless is almost as bad as calling Smoker useless. They're going to have a huge role in the final wars with the Straw Hats. You really think Oda would name her after a bird about to take flight, make her scream she'll get stronger, and appear at least once in every arc, to not be a big piece in the final 100-300 chapters?

 

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Posted 14 March 2016 - 07:44 PM

A lot of people don't like Tashigi and that's totally fine. Not every character has to be liked by everyone, but I'm still hoping Oda does something really great with her in the future.


 


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Posted 14 March 2016 - 10:23 PM

Doesn't exist. She's just a best girl from an anime.

 

So she's not your goddess then. OH!!!!! :zaru:


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#5366 FoolishYoungling

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Posted 14 March 2016 - 11:09 PM

 

So she's not your goddess then. OH!!!!! :zaru:

She is Tashigi. Best girl and future queen of the marines and of Zoro's heart. Nami is a navigator, not a goddess. AHK just follows a weird religion/cult. :woot:


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Posted 15 March 2016 - 01:36 AM

A lot of people don't like Tashigi and that's totally fine. Not every character has to be liked by everyone, but I'm still hoping Oda does something really great with her in the future.

I agree with this.
It's not about the like or dislike, it's all about the role on the story.
Eventhought sometimes popularity play a part to determine a role in the story.

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 04:15 AM

A lot of people don't like Tashigi and that's totally fine. Not every character has to be liked by everyone, but I'm still hoping Oda does something really great with her in the future.

 

I am hoping that she would be a central figure in Wano which will be a huge step for Zoro's character development (let's be honest a  bit boring for being too much the one dimensional badass since the timeskip).

 

Kinemon has hinted that Wano is a feudal japan and is extremely sexist. Oda can't afford Tashigi not being present and central to this arc. There are too many tropes and themes that relate to her character from Wano such as being the comic con of swords, strength, honor, Zoro, Shogun using the way of the sword for oppression, and more importantly sexism that was implied by Kinemon.

 

Considering how modern japan society work I am worrie that the editors and the executives won't let Tashigi's character shine in this arc. Looking at what kind of  women the men at jump and SP idolized with Naruto ... I am really worried for Tashigi's character.


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Posted 15 March 2016 - 04:50 AM

I am hoping that she would be a central figure in Wano which will be a huge step for Zoro's character development (let's be honest a  bit boring for being too much the one dimensional badass since the timeskip).

 

Kinemon has hinted that Wano is a feudal japan and is extremely sexist. Oda can't afford Tashigi not being present and central to this arc. There are too many tropes and themes that relate to her character from Wano such as being the comic con of swords, strength, honor, Zoro, Shogun using the way of the sword for oppression, and more importantly sexism that was implied by Kinemon.

 

Considering how modern japan society work I am worrie that the editors and the executives won't let Tashigi's character shine in this arc. Looking at what kind of  women the men at jump and SP idolized with Naruto ... I am really worried for Tashigi's character.

I'm not worried. Trust in Oda.


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Posted 15 March 2016 - 06:53 PM

Spoilers are out

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 07:25 PM

Spoilers are out

one lame page lol.


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#5372 NarutoUzumaki01

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 08:14 PM

one lame page lol.

as always, first page.



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Posted 15 March 2016 - 08:15 PM

Oh yeah, I heard we get early chapter this week.

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 01:03 AM

one lame page lol.

That "one lame page" says that Cat and Dog were on the King's ship, and thats how they know Shanks.


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Posted 16 March 2016 - 02:07 PM

cute luna in this chapter, and i'm betting marco looks like crap right now lol. nami was so adorable being complimented  :wub:


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Posted 16 March 2016 - 02:23 PM

Really like the chemistry, love or not.

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 02:36 PM

And I like Perona

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 02:39 PM

Really like the chemistry, love or not.

it's love.


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Posted 16 March 2016 - 02:44 PM

No OP chapter next week.

WHY ODA!!!

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 03:00 PM

A lot of information was given this chapter, the LuNa was cute, Nami was adorable, and we get to see Marco soon! Still holding out hope that Marco joins the crew, but that's a pipe dream lol

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