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[Phantom_999]

Yeah girls like Hinata do actually exist in real life. Whether they will be completely subservient and never say no to their partner or put up with any "bull $#!%" like Hinata’s fans expect of her is a different matter, and like I said a relationship with either the man or woman having Hinata’s personality type won’t last and one side or the other will leave it usually. The only type of person that will keep such a partner is a narcissist.

Edited by Phantom_999, 12 March 2022 - 02:39 PM.

[Derock]

Actually, girls like Hinata DO exist but Hinata as a character is ONE-DIMENSIONAL. Sakura is shown throughout the series with multiple expressions and emotions. Majority of Hinata's character is stuck being this shy flower and her moments where she is anything but are so few. However, majority of women today are like Sakura (rather they like or not)

 

 

Yeah girls like Hinata do actually exist in real life. Whether they will be completely subservient and never say no to their partner or put up with any Bull kitten like Hinata’s fans expect of her is a different matter, and like I said a relationship with either the man or woman having Hinata’s personality type won’t last and one side or the other will leave it usually. The only type of person that will keep such a partner is a narcissist.

 

Agreed. Would you rather want a person who is one-dimensional or someone that has character and flaws (although I think Sakura gets tons of flak because of her flaws and fans criticize her badly because of those said flaws)? People need to understand, NO ONE is perfect. Otherwise, we would've had some Mary-Sue/Gary-Stu type characters in the story (although some fans tend to think that there are some). 

[Phantom_999]

And let’s not forget the contradictory, hypocritical and never ending circular logic of Sakura’s haters. “How dare she not immediately love Naruto!” What a *beep*! But she can’t love Naruto because she has her heart set on Sasuke, and go right back to hating her for not loving Naruto despite any actual affection she shows Naruto. Crying because she’s frustrated she can only heal Naruto’s wounds and not do anything else for him? Telling him they’ll get stronger together when Sasuke overpowered them and slipped their grasp again? offering to feed him when he couldn't use his right hand? Hugging him in front of everyone in the village? All familial or platonic love only the detractors say, quote unquote. But "Sakura is still a kitten" because she never loved Naruto. Now, If she did any of those things with Sasuke and he couldn’t care less that she did, it’s romantic. Hinata does NONE of those things for/with Naruto? It’s romantic. Even though I have seen other Shy characters put WAY more effort for their love interests than Hinata ever did for Naruto. One good example from me is Sumi Sakurasawa from “Rent-A-Girlfriend”. She’s WAY shyer than Hinata that she can’t speak to people regularly, guys especially, yet she puts in way more effort for the MC ins showing him affection and support than Hinata does for Naruto.

Edited by Phantom_999, 12 March 2022 - 02:37 PM.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

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[Bail o' Lies]

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10 Worst Things About Naruto Uzumaki

Naruto Uzumaki may have been successful, but he still had major flaws that were influential in his life.

 

Naruto Uzumaki became the hero of the Hidden Leaf Village and its strongest and most diligent protector. However, Naruto was not always so successful — it took a long time of working hard and achieving great feats to sway the hearts of the Hidden Leaf Villagers, especially since Naruto was a pariah at the beginning of Naruto.

 

While Naruto achieved greatness, he had many flaws which made it more difficult to rise to greatness and made others think he was too goofy, naïve, and impulsive to amount to much. Eventually, Naruto proved everyone wrong, but that does not mean these flaws were not apparent and influential in his life.

 

10 Naruto Is Impulsive

Naruto Uzumaki is nothing if not impulsive. He jumped in front of Kabuto to protect Tsunade, he ruined a plan by chasing down an unknown Akatsuki member to retrieve Gaara's body, and he bit off more than he could chew on countless occasions throughout Naruto and Naruto: Shippuden.

 

This all came from a good place, though. He wanted to keep his loved ones safe and he wanted to stand up for those who had less power. Unfortunately, Naruto was never the smartest strategist and he often acted without thinking.

 

9 Naruto Doesn't Plan Things Out

Naruto rarely plans things out. He is a "fly by the seat of his pants" kind of guy. One of the most accurate demonstrations of this was during the chunin exam's preliminary fights when he passed gas and threw off Kiba Inuzuka's scent as a "secret plan" that he had up his sleeve (which was just an accidental act of nature calling).

 

Another instance of Naruto's lack of planning was when he chased down Deidara who tried to make off with Gaara's body after the extraction of the Shukaku. Naruto was only able to keep up with Deidara long enough for Kakashi Hatake to gain a handle on the situation thanks to the Nine-Tailed Fox Spirit's power.

 

 

8 Naruto Is Immature

Naruto never really grows up in Naruto and Naruto: Shippuden (though he does seem a lot more mature in Boruto). When he returned from training with Jiraiya, Sakura Haruno remarked on how much more mature Naruto seemed, but she immediately ate her words when it was revealed that Naruto had perfected his sexy jutsu, a notoriously immature and gross jutsu.

 

Naruto always retained some level of childishness and while it often was endearing or a by-product of his better traits, it was often annoying, gross, or just plain frustrating.

 

7 Naruto Is Naive

Part of why Naruto is so childish is because he is so naive. He always sees the good in people and he thinks of the complicated, war-torn shinobi world in simple terms that don't do it justice. No one else would have succeeded in unifying the shinobi world as Naruto did, but Naruto was just naive (and powerful) enough to pull it off.

 

Anyone else would have died well before being able to effect change on the shinobi world. Naruto's nativity often makes him frustrating and unable to engage in important and dire situations within Naruto.

 

 

6 Naruto Can't Control The Nine Tails For Most Of The Series

Naruto relies on the power of the Nine-Tailed Fox Spirit, or Kurama, to the detriment of those around him. He had the makings of a powerful shinobi, even without Kurama's help. He was an Uzumaki with incredible levels of chakra and he had the potential to reach sage mode. Unfortunately, he relied on the red chakra that often caused great amounts of collateral damage.

 

Naruto gets a handle on Kurama's power towards the end of Naruto, but that is not before a lot of harm is done. His reliance on Kurama was a crutch and it led to a lot of danger for his allies and his own body.

 

5 Naruto Is Irresponsible

Naruto is one of the most irresponsible characters in the show and that continues into his adult life in Boruto. Part of this is because he has a hard time prioritizing (many people look to him as a leader), but a lot of it is also just his difficulty with responsibility. At the beginning of the franchise, Naruto drinks spoiled milk, doesn't clean or do chores, and does not take it upon himself to do his book learning.

 

Naruto is irresponsible in battle, too. By rushing in impulsively, he acts irresponsibly.

 

 

4 Naruto Doesn't Know When To Stop Or Let Go

Naruto was obsessed with saving Sasuke, just as he was obsessed with becoming the Hokage and with saving other characters along the way (like Gaara after he had Shukaku extracted from him). However, this was not always a good quality — it led to a lot of pain, not only for Naruto but also for his friends, like Sakura Haruno.

 

Sakura even goes as far as to lie to Naruto and try to get him to let Sasuke go, but Naruto went to the ends of the earth to bring Sasuke back and even lost an arm trying.

 

3 Naruto Acts Out For Attention

Especially when he was young, Naruto had a terrible habit of acting out for attention. He grew up an orphan, was ostracized by the entire village, and struggled in school where he was ostensibly left behind. While this behavior was certainly understandable for a child with such trauma, it was sometimes hard for fans to watch as Naruto crossed the line from endearing to infuriating.

 

For the most part, Naruto's acting out did not have a large effect on those of the Hidden Leaf Village, but it made his progress as a shinobi slow at first.

 

 

2 Naruto Was A Cliché

As a shonen protagonist, Naruto was as cliché as they come and sometimes this affected Naruto negatively — his actions were often unlikely, his success seemed always ensured, and his power-ups fell victim to power creep. He was a paragon of kindness, generosity, and loyalty, making him a cookie-cutter hero. The most unique thing about his alignment was simply the incredible amount of positive thinking he exuded.

 

This made Naruto as a protagonist less special and as a result it made Naruto less special. However, he was still a great protagonist in a classic anime. Fans just feel like Naruto was sometimes predictable and boring.

 

1 Naruto Is Just Too Powerful

Naruto had the chakra reserves of an Uzumaki, sage mode, and the passed-down power of Fourth Hokage, Minato Namikaze. Plus, the Nine-Tails lived within him and was his friend. While Sasuke Uchiha was an Uchiha with a powerful Sharingan and later the Rinnegan, Naruto was just the perfect storm to create a powerful character.

 

While Naruto did struggle throughout Naruto, his power just felt unbeatable at times. Even though he lost to Sasuke on occasions, his power was world-shattering, and he was never using all of his latent ability. Fans felt like it broke the series, which was likely why he had to be nerfed in Boruto.

In case someone doesn't want to click the link.

 

Meh. Nothing we haven't heard before.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 12 March 2022 - 09:38 AM.

[Phantom_999]

That's not really the problem though, the problem is that the story and his accomplishments went nowhere and did nothing. you could apply many of those so called flaws to Goku for instance yet many fans won't bat an eye or call him out on it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Because Goku was not hyped up to be some all encompassing savior and had this grand destiny in mind that he never fulfilled, it doesn't seem as prevalent to call his flaws as bad things. Naruto wanted to be Hokage but is an immature simple minded brat that will put one life over his own and everybody else. He was suppose to play some sort of Jesus like role in his story. Didn't happen. He's the most powerful ninja in his son's own series which is a problem because the plots no longer focuses on him, which is why he has his "pathetic" moments too. Such flaws in a character aren't bad if they meant something, had a goal in mind and went somewhere. Naruto DIDN'T. Plain and simple

Edited by Phantom_999, 12 March 2022 - 10:47 AM.

[James S Cassidy]

1 Naruto Is Just Too Powerful

Naruto had the chakra reserves of an Uzumaki, sage mode, and the passed-down power of Fourth Hokage, Minato Namikaze. Plus, the Nine-Tails lived within him and was his friend. While Sasuke Uchiha was an Uchiha with a powerful Sharingan and later the Rinnegan, Naruto was just the perfect storm to create a powerful character.

 

While Naruto did struggle throughout Naruto, his power just felt unbeatable at times. Even though he lost to Sasuke on occasions, his power was world-shattering, and he was never using all of his latent ability. Fans felt like it broke the series, which was likely why he had to be nerfed in Boruto.

 

This one is the only one that is iffy because Naruto's powers flux worse than Goku's and Superman's

Especially in Boruto, Naruto's OP powers seem to only happen when the plot needs him to be. One minute he is apparently blowing moons apart...then next he gets his ass kicked by a 14 year old. How? I thought he was faster than light according to the Madara fight and all this other stuff.

One thing I HATE about power scaling in Shonen. They want these characters to have invisible limits they can't define, but break only when the plot wants it to be broken. It doesn't feel natural. 

Case and point, what happen to all the powers Naruto had during the Madara fight? The black bars, multiple chakra elements, and more? Somehow he lost all of that, but Sasuke kept his...although he didn't seem to use his anymore. 

 

[Phantom_999]

Plot convenience and drama preservation. It NEVER fluxed during the original series run where he was the focal point (arguably,  cough* "the Sasuke show" cough*) but because he can't steal the show in Boruto, that is why it happens. Same reason why in other Shonen series, characters that are deemed the strongest and are leagues above the MC get steam rolled over and it is up to MC (and to an extent, friends) to solve the problem and eliminate the main threat.

Edited by Phantom_999, 12 March 2022 - 02:36 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

Plot convenience and drama preservation. It NEVER fluxed during the original series run where he was the focal point (arguably,  cough* "the Sasuke show" cough*) but because he can't steal the show in Boruto, that is why it happens. Same reason why in other Shonen series, characters that are deemed the strongest and are leagues above the MC get steam rolled over and it is up to MC (and to an extent, friends) to solve the problem and eliminate the main threat.

I call this the "Can they beat Superman trope"

You know how powerful a character is and so to show how powerful another character is, you make them fight each other....and the other character some how is either stronger or is a "challenge" to the original OG without having to show much. Meanwhile, the original OG feels nerfed. 

One thing I really can't stand is how horrible the laws of physics are written in these universes. Not that you can't change them, but the fact that the characters seem to break them one minute, but then find it harder to do later on and show power flux.

Like, do people realize how fast the speed of light really is? I think people fail to understand even this basic concept. Take example. Gotenks in Dragonball Z. He flew around the world 7-30 times around the planet in 29 minutes, (Piccolo backs this up by saying Gotenks only has a minute left in  the fusion) Now he was considered more powerful than Goku at the time or at least the plot made it seem so otherwise why do the fusion at all? Anyway, 

So if we calculate this from the minimum to the maximum (and I am giving everyone the benefit of the doubt and maximum possible that can be given. That's why I am using 20 minutes instead of 29): 
If he did it  7 times in 20 minutes at minimum, then his speed is Mach 680
If he did it 30 times in 20 minutes at maximum is Mach 2,918.

Light could circle the earth about 7 times PER SECOND
If people say he was going faster than light, the Gotenks should have been going Mach 870...THOUSAND that is 870,000

And you don't have to be a physics major to understand this. Even the most maximum potential is not even close to reaching the speeds of light. He is literally only going 0.3% the speed of light, but they want me to believe these characters are massively times faster than light.

Superman has been more calculable which is thankful for. Batman himself has clocked Superman going 15 billion km/hr; Over 9x the speed if light.

The difference is is that while they both break the laws of physics, Superman is at least scientifically calculable and warranted. You can definitely say that Superman is faster than light. Unlike these other characters who can't show these speeds, but people want to claim they can make them.

Why am I doing all these? Because if these characters really are faster than light, then the laws of the universe need to reflect this as these are NOT natural. The fact that one minute they can do all this and then the next struggle even a fraction of this power is why writers REALLY need to invest more care in the science of the story.
 

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Sadly, I've seen some ridiculous wank when it comes to Dragon Ball power and speed while ignoring the huge inconsistencies...

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

One thing I HATE about power scaling in Shonen. They want these characters to have invisible limits they can't define, but break only when the plot wants it to be broken. It doesn't feel natural. 

I hate that kind of thing to in Shonen anime and manga too, James, but I've been glad that recent Jump titles with My Hero Academia, Black Clover, and Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba have had a decent balance with what the protagonists can do, and showing even as strong as they get, they do have limits to what they can do!

Edited by Bryon_Konoha_Ninja, 12 March 2022 - 07:28 PM.

[Illnevergiveup3]

I call this the "Can they beat Superman trope"

You know how powerful a character is and so to show how powerful another character is, you make them fight each other....and the other character some how is either stronger or is a "challenge" to the original OG without having to show much. Meanwhile, the original OG feels nerfed. 

One thing I really can't stand is how horrible the laws of physics are written in these universes. Not that you can't change them, but the fact that the characters seem to break them one minute, but then find it harder to do later on and show power flux.

Like, do people realize how fast the speed of light really is? I think people fail to understand even this basic concept. Take example. Gotenks in Dragonball Z. He flew around the world 7-30 times around the planet in 29 minutes, (Piccolo backs this up by saying Gotenks only has a minute left in  the fusion) Now he was considered more powerful than Goku at the time or at least the plot made it seem so otherwise why do the fusion at all? Anyway, 

So if we calculate this from the minimum to the maximum (and I am giving everyone the benefit of the doubt and maximum possible that can be given. That's why I am using 20 minutes instead of 29): 
If he did it  7 times in 20 minutes at minimum, then his speed is Mach 680
If he did it 30 times in 20 minutes at maximum is Mach 2,918.

Light could circle the earth about 7 times PER SECOND
If people say he was going faster than light, the Gotenks should have been going Mach 870...THOUSAND that is 870,000

And you don't have to be a physics major to understand this. Even the most maximum potential is not even close to reaching the speeds of light. He is literally only going 0.3% the speed of light, but they want me to believe these characters are massively times faster than light.

Superman has been more calculable which is thankful for. Batman himself has clocked Superman going 15 billion km/hr; Over 9x the speed if light.

The difference is is that while they both break the laws of physics, Superman is at least scientifically calculable and warranted. You can definitely say that Superman is faster than light. Unlike these other characters who can't show these speeds, but people want to claim they can make them.

Why am I doing all these? Because if these characters really are faster than light, then the laws of the universe need to reflect this as these are NOT natural. The fact that one minute they can do all this and then the next struggle even a fraction of this power is why writers REALLY need to invest more care in the science of the story.
 

wonder how it makes DBZ fans feel that no matter how powerful Goku gets, he will never beat Superman. No matter how many universes they claim he can bust, hes a fly to Superman.

[BlueStarSaber]

You just have to see their comments in death battle ds to find out or forneverworlds rant videos.

[Bail o' Lies]

Plot convenience and drama preservation. It NEVER fluxed during the original series run where he was the focal point (arguably,  cough* "the Sasuke show" cough*) but because he can't steal the show in Boruto, that is why it happens. Same reason why in other Shonen series, characters that are deemed the strongest and are leagues above the MC get steam rolled over and it is up to MC (and to an extent, friends) to solve the problem and eliminate the main threat.

Kishimoto was obsessed with his understanding of, "rivalry." So, Naruto and Sasuke were made roughly equal in power throughout the entire manga with Sasuke often being just ahead of Naruto till the end. So while we saw Naruto train, Sasuke was given abilities to match him.

 

Fire-style Vs Shadowclones

Snakes & Hawks vs toads

Chidori vs rasengan

Kirin vs rasenshuriken

sharingan vs tailed beast cloak

mangekyo vs sage mode

completed vs kurama mode

and so on.

 

The problem in Boruto is somewhat that there is no longer that conflict to keep Naruto's power level stable. So, he is as strong/weak as he needs to be for the plot. There are also factors that he is no longer the main character and that he is likely going to die in Part One of Boruto. So, now the focus is on making Boruto strong and him eventually surpassing his father...problem being that they have focus so little on his growth. That he has just shot up in the power scale. So, he can hang around the big fights Naruto and Sasuke have to the point its implied he may have already surpassed his father once he lost Kurama.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 13 March 2022 - 02:27 AM.

[James S Cassidy]

I hate that kind of thing to in Shonen anime and manga too, James, but I've been glad that recent Jump titles with My Hero Academia, Black Clover, and Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba have had a decent balance with what the protagonists can do, and showing even as strong as they get, they do have limits to what they can do!

My Hero does power scaling correctly so far. In fact, they specifically have these characters suffer great consequence from overexertion. Deku breaking limbs and bones and the like. Some even have powers that could kill them if overused even if they have somewhat complete control. 

 

Sadly, I've seen some ridiculous wank when it comes to Dragon Ball power and speed while ignoring the huge inconsistencies...

 

Whenever I have debates about this, I always ask what kind of proof do they have. Their answer is always "Whatever number I find, I just times it by 20 until I get a number I like cause "Kaioken." I can show Superman doing so much. I can give panels of him doing exactly what we say his powers do. Dragonball fans give VAGUE details and then have this math in their head describing how they reach conclusions. 

The logic is also weird in that one minute they take things literally, and then the next they have no clue. 

Name anything Goku has done and I guarantee you I can find a panel of Superman doing the same thing ten times over.
Ultra Instinct? Superman has Torquasm Vo and Torquams Rao which do the exact same thing.
Going faster than light? Superman has gone 9x to even cross 100 trillions lights in attoseconds.
Shaking a void? Superman has ripped through dimensions with his bare hands, held black holes, and more. 

One brought up how Goku survived Hit time flux or whatever, but Superman has done the same thing on at least TWO occasions. How did he do it? He speed himself up so fast he matched it. One against a villain named Time Trapper and another with Ghostman. 

Funny though, I bring up Goku getting blasted when he wasn't paying attention and almost dying and they say that doesn't mean anything. I think having armor that ONLY works when you're actively using it is a huge weakness. Superman always have his armor up. 

It is like comparing a man with a shield vs a man with a suit of armor. 
 

 

wonder how it makes DBZ fans feel that no matter how powerful Goku gets, he will never beat Superman. No matter how many universes they claim he can bust, hes a fly to Superman.

I wonder how they will feel when they are still making Superman stories while Goku's will eventually end.

 

[catsi563]

Actually, girls like Hinata DO exist but Hinata as a character is ONE-DIMENSIONAL. Sakura is shown throughout the series with multiple expressions and emotions. Majority of Hinata's character is stuck being this shy flower and her moments where she is anything but are so few. However, majority of women today are like Sakura (rather they like or not)

Id only make a small correction here 

 

Hinatas one dimensionality as a character isnt based on her shyness. the shy contemporary with a crush on the MC is a fairly common trope and by itself doesnt usually mean much

 

the trick is whether the character has plot points and or development outside their main motivation

 

Hinatas main motivation is Naruto take away that motivation and the character has NOTHING, No plot points no story elements nothing nada

 

A character can have a focused goal  like get the MC to notice me and return my feelings that fine

 

but when that is ALL they have and no other elements exist then theyre basically a background character with nothing to add. theyre irrelevant to the main story 

 

thats always been hinatas issue as a character shes functionally irrelevant to the story anytime you can replace a character with generic fem character #3 or with an existing main or secondary character to the same or greater emotional effect youve crossed the irrelevancy barrier 

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Id only make a small correction here 

 

Hinatas one dimensionality as a character isnt based on her shyness. the shy contemporary with a crush on the MC is a fairly common trope and by itself doesnt usually mean much

 

the trick is whether the character has plot points and or development outside their main motivation

 

Hinatas main motivation is Naruto take away that motivation and the character has NOTHING, No plot points no story elements nothing nada

 

A character can have a focused goal  like get the MC to notice me and return my feelings that fine

 

but when that is ALL they have and no other elements exist then theyre basically a background character with nothing to add. theyre irrelevant to the main story 

 

thats always been hinatas issue as a character shes functionally irrelevant to the story anytime you can replace a character with generic fem character #3 or with an existing main or secondary character to the same or greater emotional effect youve crossed the irrelevancy barrier 

 

Exactly. I feel what would have been better is if Hinata got over her obsession with Naruto, considering even now she doesn't even really KNOW the real him, even if they've been together in canon for what? Almost 20 years approximately? It's just also shown too how she just loves seeing Naruto to fail because it lifts her up, and that she doesn't understand how strong he really is in the long run. That's why I feel Sakura was and still is a better fit for him-- she knows the real Naruto, and wants him to be able to succeed without feeling like a "proud failure" or to lift herself up. Sure, she felt jealous at times early on, BUT Naruto also inspired Sakura to improve herself with his actions and his words, and how he had her back no matter what!

[James S Cassidy]

Id only make a small correction here 

 

Hinatas one dimensionality as a character isnt based on her shyness. the shy contemporary with a crush on the MC is a fairly common trope and by itself doesnt usually mean much

 

the trick is whether the character has plot points and or development outside their main motivation

 

Hinatas main motivation is Naruto take away that motivation and the character has NOTHING, No plot points no story elements nothing nada

 

A character can have a focused goal  like get the MC to notice me and return my feelings that fine

 

but when that is ALL they have and no other elements exist then theyre basically a background character with nothing to add. theyre irrelevant to the main story 

 

thats always been hinatas issue as a character shes functionally irrelevant to the story anytime you can replace a character with generic fem character #3 or with an existing main or secondary character to the same or greater emotional effect youve crossed the irrelevancy barrier 

 

I have to disagree because it is far worse than that.

So when the story first started Hinata had a crush on Naruto, but she also had her own story between herself, Neji, and her family/clan. It was the only reason for the fight between her and Neji in part and why Naruto made a nindo to prove Neji wrong.

They ABANDONED this story aspect for the sake of Hinata's love obsesesion. So she really didn't start one dimensional...they turned her into a one dimensional character by removing the only other thing that had meaning in her life. Her family. They tried to incorporate it in The Last, but Hinata gave NO Fs for any of her family members. She literally said so herself that she is selfish because she cared more about Naruto and the blasted scarf than her own sister.

THAT is the ultimate garbage take. That is the most pathetic reality. Her only defining trait is her love for Naruto...everything else was abandoned ON PURPOSE. 

I love Sakura. She is one of my favorite heroines, but the moment they abandoned everything good about her for this...boy obsession....that is the greatest insult they have ever done and here they did it to their favorite character too. Which means it was not about Hinata...it was not about Naruto either...it was about the affair itself. The IDEA of NaruHina...not NaruHina itself. 

Imagine be that is real life. Imagine you love someone not because of the real version of them, but your idealistic version of him. I am starting to believe this is why many young people are in horrible relationships. They are in love with the idea...not the person themselves.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

I wish Dave Filoni was in charge of Naruto. He would have handled Sakura like he handled Ahsoka. 

[VanitasDS76491]

I wish Dave Filoni was in charge of Naruto. He would have handled Sakura like he handled Ahsoka. 

you mean how she starts off bad but grows over time to be awesome