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#5341 Anguyen92

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 03:19 AM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Sep 9 2011, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just curious about what people think on this.

Will Kishi end the love triangle before Naruto faces Sasuke, or do you think it will happen after?


Well, some people here wants it to be before, and I concur with them. Because, if its after, then it may be one of those second choice scenarios that I and everyone else here hates. And Naruto would probably respond to Hinata's confession after the war. With the whole, I'm sorry, I like you as a friend, despite not knowing a whole lot about you, but my heart is with someone else and she responds the same way, thankfully. And Hinata would call it quits there and would just be supportive.

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#5342 Miss Soupy

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 03:26 AM

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Sep 9 2011, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, some people here wants it to be before, and I concur with them. Because, if its after, then it may be one of those second choice scenarios that I and everyone else here hates.

Would it not seem like a second choice scenario as it is currently? What with Sakura giving the excuse of Sasuke being a traitor and villain and therefore no longer good enough for her? Verses once Sasuke is redeemed and Sakura realizes Naruto is the person she wants to be with no matter how cool Sasuke may be?

Just a thought XD

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 03:35 AM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Sep 9 2011, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Would it not seem like a second choice scenario as it is currently? What with Sakura giving the excuse of Sasuke being a traitor and villain and therefore no longer good enough for her? Verses once Sasuke is redeemed and Sakura realizes Naruto is the person she wants to be with no matter how cool Sasuke may be?

Just a thought XD


That still might not be enough to win over Naruto, which is why I believe her making a promise of a lifetime, would seal the deal between the both of them, if its after the final battle between him and Sasuke. The fact of the matter is its not just enough to want to be with the person you love. If you really want this so much, you have to give/do something big for that person you love. Which is why if the canon relationship is on the basis of Sakura making sure that Naruto won't face anything alone again, as long as she's around, and Naruto making sure that Sakura would always smile, then that would be very fine and dandy to me.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 04:08 AM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Sep 9 2011, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
With the way Kishi has sort of down-played the importance of the POAL recently, I have my doubts as to it being brought up much in the future.

QUOTE (redkunai66 @ Sep 9 2011, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the one relationship that kishi concentrates the most on is naruto and sasukes- everything else so far seems secondary in importance to the story- given since sasuke and the uchihas are key point to plot and themes. POAL was important the 1st time partly because it wasn't just a promise sakura, i think naruto made that promise to himself internally too for sasuke's sake as well. thats why he rebutted sakura's claim that he was still going after sasuke for her sake: http://www.mangafox....v50/c470/3.html

Hmm, this has sort of bugged me, but I guess Naruto's comment about the POAL in 470 was a little odd. He said, only a few chapters earlier, that he couldn't tell Sakura about his feelings due to a 'promise' he couldn't keep. Then, in 470, he says his desire to save Sasuke isn't tied to that promise, at least not exclusively. I guess the way I took it is that the POAL isn't dead, but it's sort of serving a different purpose now.

Either way, I think a new POAL would be a suitable way to resolve the love triangle. Whether or not that'll be how it happens, we'll see.
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i swear we're all still waiting for naruto to decline hinata as well, and i don't see that happeing till after the war.

To be honest, I don't think it needs to happen at all. Hinata might be a fan-favorite, but a love rejection doesn't really seem like Kishi's style. The only sort of rejection I can see Naruto giving Hinata would be something along the lines of, "I'll never be to return your feelings." or "I'm in love with someone else", and that just feels sort of fan-ficish to me. From where I see it, Hinata's confession was a way to tie up a loose end on her character. If her confession warranted a response, I'm guessing it happened (or will happen) off-panel, or Hinata's reaction to Sakura's hug in 450 was enough to show us that Hinata already understands the bond the two share. But we'll see.

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Sep 9 2011, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just curious about what people think on this.

Will Kishi end the love triangle before Naruto faces Sasuke, or do you think it will happen after?

Personally, I'd prefer it to happen before, but I think the actual resolution probably won't happen till after the Sasuke fight. However, I also think that resolution will begin to happen beforehand, so I guess my answer is a little bit of both. I'm guessing that, with how the manga is moving right now, and with how Naruto seems to have something against confessing his feelings before saving Sasuke, Naruto will basically just inadvertently do something to help resolve her feelings (bench scene resolution?) before the fight. Then Sakura will chew on that for bit, and finally get out of the romantic limbo or whatever she's in right now. Then, when everything's peaceful again, Kishi will finally resolve all the romantic stuff.

At least that's my guess. It could happen entirely before, entirely after, or not at all, but I think this fits Kishi's MO the best.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 10 September 2011 - 04:16 AM.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 04:47 AM

Hi miss soupy! cute new sig and avatar! laugh.gif

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 07:46 AM

(butting in again) I found this .gif out of.. browsing, and well, I thought it was such a cute-yet debateable Narusaku moment. So http://24.media.tumb...ijt4ko1_250.gif
Does anyone know what episode its from?
 
 
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#5347 merryGOflava

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 08:06 AM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Sep 10 2011, 07:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(butting in again) I found this .gif out of.. browsing, and well, I thought it was such a cute-yet debateable Narusaku moment. So http://24.media.tumb...ijt4ko1_250.gif
Does anyone know what episode its from?


nope :o but i have the naruto book that has the chapter on it :3

sakura is just talking about how sai acts like sasuke,

then naruto's like "NOWAY!!! sasuke is waaaaayyy cooler!!".....and hes like...what am i saying!!

then sakura smiles at him :3 just for acting adorable, and says "yea sasuke is a little cooler..."

then naruto like "NO!!! HES A BAZILLION TIMES COOLER" >:UUUUUU ......

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 08:18 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 10 2011, 08:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
nope :o but i have the naruto book that has the chapter on it :3

sakura is just talking about how sai acts like sasuke,

then naruto's like "NOWAY!!! sasuke is waaaaayyy cooler!!".....and hes like...what am i saying!!

then sakura smiles at him :3 just for acting adorable, and says "yea sasuke is a little cooler..."

then naruto like "NO!!! HES A BAZILLION TIMES COOLER" >:UUUUUU ......


A LITTLE COOLER!? Sakura! She really has come far. The part 1 Sakura would of been all "NO, SASUKE IS THE BEST, BEYOND BEST, INFINITE!!! CHAAA!"

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 08:36 AM

Soon Sakura will blush and says "Naruto you're way cooler than any guy."

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 09:54 AM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Sep 10 2011, 01:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(butting in again) I found this .gif out of.. browsing, and well, I thought it was such a cute-yet debateable Narusaku moment. So http://24.media.tumb...ijt4ko1_250.gif
Does anyone know what episode its from?

I've been dying to know which episode that is xDD It looks really cute

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:36 AM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Sep 9 2011, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(butting in again) I found this .gif out of.. browsing, and well, I thought it was such a cute-yet debateable Narusaku moment. So http://24.media.tumb...ijt4ko1_250.gif
Does anyone know what episode its from?


I think it's from ep 35.
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#5352 Anguyen92

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 03:08 PM

QUOTE (Darth Krypt @ Sep 10 2011, 01:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Soon Sakura will blush and says "Naruto you're way cooler than any guy."


Ehhhh, I prefer the whole "You're a baka, but you're my baka."

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 03:26 PM

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Sep 10 2011, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ehhhh, I prefer the whole "You're a baka, but you're my baka."


I was talking about the scene merryGOflava was talking about. I just put forward what she would or supposed to say considering her feelings now.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 03:47 PM

Nah I would like a warmer confession that would REALLY show her changed demeanor to Naruto laugh.gif

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#5355 Darth Krypt

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 03:54 PM

No I'm not talking about a confession! I'm saying Sakura should have said that in the scene instead of "yea sasuke is a little cooler..."

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 04:21 PM

QUOTE (Darth Krypt @ Sep 10 2011, 08:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was talking about the scene merryGOflava was talking about. I just put forward what she would or supposed to say considering her feelings now.


Whoops. sorry man. totally did not see the context of that.

QUOTE (Darth Krypt @ Sep 10 2011, 08:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No I'm not talking about a confession! I'm saying Sakura should have said that in the scene instead of "yea sasuke is a little cooler..."


Oh, in that scene, well, Naruto just got settled from his trip back, so it may have been too soon.

IMO, I don't really think Naruto is really "cool". Awesome, yes. Funny, yes. Perverted, yes. Cool, ehhhhh, maybe not. Which is why if Sakura says what I posted earlier then that would be within character and would make sense given the context of their relationship.

Just to sum it up, I really don't think Sakura should say that he is "cooler" than everyone else. But if she says, what I written on the above and in the last post, I made, then huzzah!!!

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 05:36 PM

Well in movie 3, she DID say, "That's my Naruto, he always heals so quickly" and she looked so warmly at him without him looking.
 
 
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 06:34 PM

that was like, one of the cutest movie moments ever! <3


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 06:38 PM

QUOTE (Boom...Winning @ Sep 9 2011, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, this has sort of bugged me, but I guess Naruto's comment about the POAL in 470 was a little odd. He said, only a few chapters earlier, that he couldn't tell Sakura about his feelings due to a 'promise' he couldn't keep. Then, in 470, he says his desire to save Sasuke isn't tied to that promise, at least not exclusively. I guess the way I took it is that the POAL isn't dead, but it's sort of serving a different purpose now.

Here is my take on what he said...

For what he said to Sai, Naruto wants to be someone who stands by his word. So he is saying, if he can't fulfill a promise (of a lifetime), then what good would his words be if he confessed his love to Sakura. (Yes, that assumes Naruto believes in NS, but so what? wink.gif )

For the second part, Naruto isn't saying the POAL is dead, just that he would *still* be trying to save Sasuke even if he didn't make that promise. So Sakura relieving him of that responsibility doesn't change his plans.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 07:29 PM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Sep 9 2011, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just curious about what people think on this.

Will Kishi end the love triangle before Naruto faces Sasuke, or do you think it will happen after?

He could easily go either way, but what I'm hoping to see happen is have Naruto and Sakura talk right before his final confrontation with Sasuke, and this conversation will be the set up for the stuff that happens after the fight with Sasuke.

I'd love for Naruto to think of what Itachi told him about Minato succeeding because he had Kushina by his side to support him, and apply it to Sakura being by his side.
QUOTE (Boom...Winning @ Sep 10 2011, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, this has sort of bugged me, but I guess Naruto's comment about the POAL in 470 was a little odd. He said, only a few chapters earlier, that he couldn't tell Sakura about his feelings due to a 'promise' he couldn't keep. Then, in 470, he says his desire to save Sasuke isn't tied to that promise, at least not exclusively. I guess the way I took it is that the POAL isn't dead, but it's sort of serving a different purpose now.

Naruto never discarded the promise or said that it didn't mean anything to him anymore or the like. As Red Delicious said, the POAL is separate from his desire to save Sasuke. The POAL had everything to do with his feelings for Sakura, and acknowledging Sakura's feelings for Sasuke. He was already going to save Sasuke before that, so we already knew saving Sasuke didn't hinge on the promise.

It is Naruto's feelings for Sakura that revolve around the promise, not his feelings for Sasuke. And all Naruto essentially said was that regardless of the promise, he'd still want to save Sasuke.

Sakura : "You don't know anything! I don't care about Sasuke at all anymore now that he's a criminal! So forget about your promise to me!"
Naruto : "This isn't about that promise." [insert flashback about the truth regarding Itachi & Kakashi stopping him from telling the group] "It doesn't have anything to do with my promise to you."

I've seen this argument around everywhere, so please, someone point out to me where Naruto is supposedly discarding, demeaning, or lessening the importance of the POAL, because I'm just not seeing it at all. headscratch.gif
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To be honest, I don't think it needs to happen at all. Hinata might be a fan-favorite, but a love rejection doesn't really seem like Kishi's style. The only sort of rejection I can see Naruto giving Hinata would be something along the lines of, "I'll never be to return your feelings." or "I'm in love with someone else", and that just feels sort of fan-ficish to me. From where I see it, Hinata's confession was a way to tie up a loose end on her character. If her confession warranted a response, I'm guessing it happened (or will happen) off-panel, or Hinata's reaction to Sakura's hug in 450 was enough to show us that Hinata already understands the bond the two share. But we'll see.

I honestly believe that Naruto and Hinata talked during the time that off paneled in between 450 and 451. Naruto probably stumbled over his words, and Hinata probably said something along the lines of knowing Naruto is in love with Sakura. So it wouldn't actually be a rejection, just an acknowledgment on Hinata's part of Naruto's feelings. It could be flashbacked to, but I think it's more likely this chat will just be brought up in a future conversation to let the reader know it was taken care of.

Though I personally agree that Hinata's reaction in 450 could serve as enough closure for her character, as well as enough of an answer from Naruto.
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