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Posted 09 August 2013 - 05:04 AM

One would imagine what would happen if she remains the girl who keeps hiding her real persona.

 

Odd that this never occurred to me till now. Sakura trusts Naruto 100% yet with Sasuke is... I wonder what would be like if it was Naruto that entered late. I can imagine Sai being all happy, asking Sakura the good news and Sakura would say the same line, only with a real smile. Kishi, what are you trying to say?...

well trust does lead to love you know what I mean .? Ever since the POAL , when she said those words , HE ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD ME , I knew they was going to get together someday . I mean Sakura always looked for Acknowledgement and somebody to udnerstand her , Naruto always did . I think Kishi is showing us that , Naruto is everythin she wanted Sasuke to be all along , but as she got to know Naruto better she realized he had all the qualities she wanted in a man . 


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 05:08 AM

well trust does lead to love you know what I mean .? Ever since the POAL , when she said those words , HE ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD ME , I knew they was going to get together someday . I mean Sakura always looked for Acknowledgement and somebody to udnerstand her , Naruto always did . I think Kishi is showing us that , Naruto is everythin she wanted Sasuke to be all along , but as she got to know Naruto better she realized he had all the qualities she wanted in a man . 

Yeah, that's what it's heading to. My only concern is on how Kishi would end SS. So far, it's going good (or bad? Lol) because she's not being changed because of another woman or anything like that. Instead, she's being tested that being on the same team, under enemy of my enemy is my friend policy, still not good enough for her. Sasuke pretty much need to be a whole new person for Sakura to actually love him with no problems at all. You can say it's not positive love. So, the real question is how will she drops that feeling? Well, I hope Kishi does it good. It may cause uproar, but welcome to a "twist".


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 05:17 AM

Yeah, that's what it's heading to. My only concern is on how Kishi would end SS. So far, it's going good (or bad? Lol) because she's not being changed because of another woman or anything like that. Instead, she's being tested that being on the same, under enemy of my enemy is my friend policy, still not good enough for her. Sasuke pretty much need to be a whole new person for Sakura to actually love him with no problems at all. You can say it's not positive love. So, the real question is how will she drops that feeling? Well, I hope Kishi does it good. It may cause uproar, but welcome to a "twist".

I think she fell out of love with Sasuke a while , ago and was just under the impression that she still loved Sasuke since Naruto is so focused on the whole reuniting team 7 thing and bring Sasuke back for Sakura  . If you noticed , Sakura never even brings Sasuke up in conversations , it always Naruto .! I remeber when she could barely compare Sasuke to Sai said that Sasuke is SLIGHTLY cooler than Sai . Thats when I realized she doens't love Sasuke and she really loves Naruto . I think she is really in love with Naruto at this point , and I think an attack from Sasuke and him seriously hurting Naruto will make her realize that . 


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 05:24 AM

I think she fell out of love with Sasuke a while , ago and was just under the impression that she still loved Sasuke since Naruto is so focused on the whole reuniting team 7 thing and bring Sasuke back for Sakura  . If you noticed , Sakura never even brings Sasuke up in conversations , it always Naruto .! I remeber when she could barely compare Sasuke to Sai said that Sasuke is SLIGHTLY cooler than Sai . Thats when I realized she doens't love Sasuke and she really loves Naruto . I think she is really in love with Naruto at this point , and I think an attack from Sasuke and him seriously hurting Naruto will make her realize that . 

Well, there are many that would argue that Sakura no longer loves Sasuke for a while. To be honest, I don't blame them, but for now, I will play it safe and say she still does because it's on the edge of jumping off to end all. That said you bring up a good point. The funny thing is that Sakura took the advantage of bringing Sai and Sasuke comparison to have Naruto reacted the way he always did and mission accomplished, he did. Guess what, she smiled. That is something many people often forget. I also like how the anime did it making her bring the conversation and you can see how Sakura was waiting for him to react and once he did, she was smiling. To me, that's significant. God, please give me one more arc. I want a short break and then, the finale.



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Posted 09 August 2013 - 05:39 AM

Well, there are many that would argue that Sakura no longer loves Sasuke for a while. To be honest, I don't blame them, but for now, I will play it safe and say she still does because it's on the edge of jumping off to end all. That said you bring up a good point. The funny thing is that Sakura took the advantage of bringing Sai and Sasuke comparison to have Naruto reacted the way he always did and mission accomplished, he did. Guess what, she smiled. That is something many people often forget. I also like how the anime did it making her bring the conversation and you can see how Sakura was waiting for him to react and once he did, she was smiling. To me, that's significant. God, please give me one more arc. I want a short break and then, the finale.

eveything will happen in the Final Sasuke arc . Kishimoto better not troll us and make Sasuke end up trying to be good , but Shikamaru already said he don't trsut Sasuke , so I guess that means that Sasuke is up to no good , because I remember Kishi made Choji say Shikamaru is always right about what he says . The way she smiled at him at that time of the conversation was like she was admiring even more and the person he had become and she was noticing the great lengths he would go to for her , I know Kishi won't make Sakura so heartless as to reject Naruto after all Naruto had done .


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:25 AM

eveything will happen in the Final Sasuke arc . Kishimoto better not troll us and make Sasuke end up trying to be good , but Shikamaru already said he don't trsut Sasuke , so I guess that means that Sasuke is up to no good , because I remember Kishi made Choji say Shikamaru is always right about what he says . The way she smiled at him at that time of the conversation was like she was admiring even more and the person he had become and she was noticing the great lengths he would go to for her , I know Kishi won't make Sakura so heartless as to reject Naruto after all Naruto had done .

The thing is Sasuke has shown that he has no intention to do anything good in return. He's not acting like those characters who is doing many good things for redemption, indirectly. However, we already got inner thoughts of him and clearly, he has nothing to hide but darkness intentions. Sakura really shows a lot of closeness with Naruto. It's just that her feelings for him isn't recognizable to her. Soon, it will come.



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Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:29 AM

Well, there are many that would argue that Sakura no longer loves Sasuke for a while. To be honest, I don't blame them, but for now, I will play it safe and say she still does because it's on the edge of jumping off to end all. That said you bring up a good point. The funny thing is that Sakura took the advantage of bringing Sai and Sasuke comparison to have Naruto reacted the way he always did and mission accomplished, he did. Guess what, she smiled. That is something many people often forget. I also like how the anime did it making her bring the conversation and you can see how Sakura was waiting for him to react and once he did, she was smiling. To me, that's significant. God, please give me one more arc. I want a short break and then, the finale.


I just hope this war arc ends in the next volume :/ in pretty sure It won't with this one because of the way things have been playing out. However, with the Kage's arrival we can be sure that the war is near it's ending at this point. With that will come Sasuke's plan and the end of SasuSaku about like 99%. Again 4life I love your point because that NaruSaku moment again, didnt need to even be shown or brought up in the plot to change the story. Kishi just decides to do all this stuff just to show how good and improved the NaruSaku relationship is. Many people in the manga can tell that these two love each other just by the way they act around each other. Yamato with Sakura and Sai with Naruto, when both of them were not needed for plot development or the continuation of the story. It's beautiful how NaruSaku has evolved and become what it is and I hope kishi actually does give is the best when he makes this pairing canon. Imagine the anime and how good that will be for us :). They better use some amazing ass animations for it.

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:36 AM

The thing is Sasuke has shown that he has no intention to do anything good in return. He's not acting like those characters who is doing many good things for redemption, indirectly. However, we already got inner thoughts of him and clearly, he has nothing to hide but darkness intentions. Sakura really shows a lot of closeness with Naruto. It's just that her feelings for him isn't recognizable to her. Soon, it will come.

Part of why I don't think its recognizable to her is because it probably took her by surprise , she is probably thinking how did this baka make me fall for him like this .? She clearly has her reasosn in her head of why she should love him back , but think its just primarily shock on her part and the whole Sasuke situation that Naruto refuses to leave alone , even when sakura herself asks him to forget , I mean at that point it shows that she has no interest in bringing Sasuke back for herslef , but for Naruto .  With that being said yes I agree with you , her closeness is obvious , she obviously would die if she lost Naruto , thats why she she doesn't want him to go after Sasuke also imo . 

 

I mean I'm glad Kishi is taking the road as Sasuke coming back with evil intentions , he planned everything from the start , how he was going to transition Sakura from Sasuke to Naruto . It was brilliant on his part and it all started with the POAL .


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:43 AM

Yeah, that's what it's heading to. My only concern is on how Kishi would end SS. So far, it's going good (or bad? Lol) because she's not being changed because of another woman or anything like that. Instead, she's being tested that being on the same team, under enemy of my enemy is my friend policy, still not good enough for her. Sasuke pretty much need to be a whole new person for Sakura to actually love him with no problems at all. You can say it's not positive love. So, the real question is how will she drops that feeling? Well, I hope Kishi does it good. It may cause uproar, but welcome to a "twist".

 

Karin steps in and snatches Sasuke away? ^^

 

Even if he turns magically in to a better person aka he is redeemed do you think that Sakura would fall for him? Given that Kishi has written the story in a matter improving NS the most from friendship to friends with benefits or even lovers , i don't think that she will just hop over from Naruto to Sasuke or vise versa. The right man was in the right place all along and by place i mean in her heart , i can't even begin to imagine that sort of situation occurring at all .Sakura needs to find the answer for herself if not somebody would have to give her a hint , because honestly she is lost till otherwise contradicted . We still dont know how does she feels about SAsuke in general its still ambiguous to me heck maybe she still doesn't know how much she loves Naruto . What i am saying is that we need something big to happen something drastic that would trigger her emotions and lead to her final realization.

 

 She can't just love him or fall in love with him , she needs first to build at least friendship with him to better understand him to touch his inner self , which she already has done more or less with Naruto  .

Because understanding the other is a form  of love .

How will kishi end it , i think Naruto will have to make his move or Sasuke's gonna   screw up aka betraying them again or simply hurting Naruto .


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:52 AM

 

Karin steps in and snatches Sasuke away? ^^

 

Even if he turns magically in to a better person aka he is redeemed do you think that Sakura would fall for him? Given that Kishi has written the story in a matter improving NS the most from friendship to friends with benefits or even lovers , i don't think that she will just hop over from Naruto to Sasuke or vise versa. The right man was in the right place all along and by place i mean in her heart , i can't even begin to imagine that sort of situation occurring at all .Sakura needs to find the answer for herself if not somebody would have to give her a hint , because honestly she is lost till otherwise contradicted . We still dont know how does she feels about SAsuke in general its still ambiguous to me heck maybe she still doesn't know how much she loves Naruto . What i am saying is that we need something big to happen something drastic that would trigger her emotions and lead to her final realization.

 

 She can't just love him or fall in love with him , she needs first to build at least friendship with him to better understand him to touch his inner self , which she already has done more or less with Naruto  .

Because understanding the other is a form  of love .

How will kishi end it , i think Naruto will have to do his move or Sasuke's gonna   screw up aka betraying them again or simply hurting Naruto .

yeah , that was all great . It was building up ever since the land of waves to me when she started noticing Naruto even more . Like you said , the right man was there all along , she just couldn't believe it . Hence , why she is always so happy when Naruto is around , and why she seems to get sad when Naruto isn't around . How she cries even more when she feels like Naruto is just about to die and how she hits him out of relief when she realizes that he didn't die . 

 

The promise of a lifetime , made her realize , that she had somebody by her side that will always be there for her no matter what and who was there even when she treated him bad . She realized that Naruto would sacrifice his happiness just to see her happy , and sakura isn't oblivious to that because she actually takes the time to study Naruto and tries to make him happy . 


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 07:28 AM

eveything will happen in the Final Sasuke arc . Kishimoto better not troll us and make Sasuke end up trying to be good , but Shikamaru already said he don't trsut Sasuke , so I guess that means that Sasuke is up to no good , because I remember Kishi made Choji say Shikamaru is always right about what he says . The way she smiled at him at that time of the conversation was like she was admiring even more and the person he had become and she was noticing the great lengths he would go to for her , I know Kishi won't make Sakura so heartless as to reject Naruto after all Naruto had done .

 

The point is not her rejection , if you recall she was the one who confessed her feelings for Naruto in the first place not he himself , even though half of if was fake , because she still loved Sasuke at that current moment . She was falling for hem step by step , but we have to wait and see if she has reached the pinnacle of her love for Naruto .The goal was simple and Kishimoto was being obvious with this one , put Naruto and Sasuke on a scale who's happiness will you choose to preserve , Naruto's or yours ? Well she made her choice very clear that she wants Naruto happy , but she missed the feelings Naruto held for Sasuke (as a brother not shipping narusasu here :D ). Honestly i want Sasuke redeemed and back in the village team 7reunited and then the love revelations , that is what Naruto wants too , then he would confess after Sasuke's back if you recall Sai's flashback . HE wants SAkura to come on her free will with Sasuke in the picture alive and breathing , but the story just doesn't allow Sasuke to return at this point :confused: , his intentions never changed .. :pinch:


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 07:36 AM

 

The point is not her rejection , if you recall she was the one who confessed her feelings for Naruto in the first place not he himself , even though half of if was fake , because she still loved Sasuke at that current moment . She was falling for hem step by step , but we have to wait and see if she has reached the pinnacle of her love for Naruto .The goal was simple and Kishimoto was being obvious with this one , put Naruto and Sasuke on a scale who's happiness will you choose to preserve , Naruto's or yours ? Well she made her choice very clear that she wants Naruto happy , but she missed the feelings Naruto held for Sasuke (as a brother not shipping narusasu here :D ). Honestly i want Sasuke redeemed and back in the village team 7reunited and then the love revelations , that is what Naruto wants too , then he would confess after Sasuke's back if you recall Sai's flashback . HE wants SAkura to come on her free will with Sasuke in the picture alive and breathing , but the story just doesn't allow Sasuke to return at this point :confused: , his intentions never changed .. :pinch:

I see what you are getting at , if its a good Sasuke , then thats even better because that just shows she love Naruto all along even a over a good Sasuke . 


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Thank you!!
Btw while I was browsing japanese results about my fanarts on google, I found this under my NS x MK old fanart.2h7kynm.jpg

Oh yeah! I've been on that japanese forum! (I think ive been to all of em') they were talking about how sakura is cute and how sakura and kushina are ao much alike and how sakura is beautiful, and they were talking about how sakura is an awesome heroine. They thought your artwork is official the anime team xD

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 02:00 PM

Thank you!!

Btw while I was browsing japanese results about my fanarts on google, I found this under my NS x MK old fanart.

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Ever since I first saw Kushina, I was thinking she was like Sakura just due to the back-story. Before the majority of other NS fans saw this stuff, I began to think, geez that rescue of Kushina was just like the Sakura rescue only 20 or so chapters previously. Some fans I talked with at the time, when the similarities were noted that the sequences and angles were very similar, especially the rescue, smiles, encouragement, and hugs, I had a discussion with other fans of all types to see if they thought this meant anything.

 

As usual at the time I talked with others about this, many said it was nothing major, but one time is not enough, this is something we have seen over 5 times now. I began to ask them if they thought either Kushina was really nothing like Sakura or if she was just based off Sakura for the sake of convenience to move the story along. So rather than a story design debate, it then sadly degraded into a pairing one in which they thought that this was again either part of the "NS red herring" or "it does absolutely nothing for NS as it was not development" then it somehow turned into a discussion over if Kishi was lazy in designing Kushina and the other sequences. So either Kushina is a factor for Naruto liking Sakura or all these similarities were just made as a choice to save time and cut the flashback story down quickly. Never mind Kishi made Kushina based off stuff he did with Sakura, he just wanted to save time or just mislead fans again....

 

Well aside from Kushinas past with Minato being similar to Sakura and Naruto, the design itself of these panels is just too similar by angle and by expression. Yet we still see next to nothing from the NH side of her somehow being like Kushina or even Minato. Nothing at all. Though this conversation happened a couple years ago, at this point its either kishi is doing this on purpose to give the reader some hints, at least it has a meaning. Or he was just lazy as others say, but to do this deliberately, when he could have just given Kushina a different easier unrelated personality and background to anyone, he could have but he did not. I highly doubt he was being lazy for the sake of time when it came to designing Kushina.



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Posted 09 August 2013 - 02:03 PM

 

Ever since I first saw Kushina, I was thinking she was like Sakura just due to the back-story. Before the majority of other NS fans saw this stuff, I began to think, geez that rescue of Kushina was just like the Sakura rescue only 20 or so chapters previously. Some fans I talked with at the time, when the similarities were noted that the sequences and angles were very similar, especially the rescue, smiles, encouragement, and hugs, I had a discussion with other fans of all types to see if they thought this meant anything.

 

As usual at the time I talked with others about this, many said it was nothing major, but one time is not enough, this is something we have seen over 5 times now. I began to ask them if they thought either Kushina was really nothing like Sakura or if she was just based off Sakura for the sake of convenience to move the story along. So rather than a story design debate, it then sadly degraded into a pairing one in which they thought that this was again either part of the "NS red herring" or "it does absolutely nothing for NS as it was not development" then it somehow turned into a discussion over if Kishi was lazy in designing Kushina and the other sequences. So either Kushina is a factor for Naruto liking Sakura or all these similarities were just made as a choice to save time and cut the flashback story down quickly. Never mind Kishi made Kushina based off stuff he did with Sakura, he just wanted to save time or just mislead fans again....

 

Well aside from Kushinas past with Minato being similar to Sakura and Naruto, the design itself of these panels is just too similar by angle and by expression. Yet we still see next to nothing from the NH side of her somehow being like Kushina or even Minato. Nothing at all. Though this conversation happened a couple years ago, at this point its either kishi is doing this on purpose to give the reader some hints, at least it has a meaning. Or he was just lazy as others say, but to do this deliberately, when he could have just given Kushina a different easier unrelated personality and background to anyone, he could have but he did not. I highly doubt he was being lazy for the sake of time when it came to designing Kushina.

and also what about the Tsunade thing .? Because she made it clear that she was in love with Jairaya already to me . I think Tsunade might die and she might tell Sakura to not make the same mistake and to realize her love before its too late . ( Naruto )


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:39 PM

Tsuande wont die, I know this is a popular theory, but she needs to see Naruto become Hokage. 



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Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:42 PM

Tsuande wont die, I know this is a popular theory, but she needs to see Naruto become Hokage. 

yeah that too , but then I think probably Sakura knows that Tsunade probably loved Jairaya . And Sakura will refrain herslef from making the same mistake as Tsunade probably . 


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:42 PM

I've reached the conclusion that Tsunade will only die if she loses her head, which I don't think will happen in this manga.

 

Now that we've seen how hard she is to kill, that theory is dead to me.


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:45 PM

I've reached the conclusion that Tsunade will only die if she loses her head, which I don't think will happen in this manga.

 

Now that we've seen how hard she is to kill, that theory is dead to me.

lols you just had to kill me theory huh .? 


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 08:53 PM

Ok, something just crossed my mind. You know how the NH fans are always saying 'Sakura will just use Naruto as a backup because Sasuke isn't there'? I wonder if Kishi got sick and tired of seeing posts like that on every single Naruto related page on the internet and decided he'd put Sasuke in the story all of a sudden to show Sakura has really moved on. I doubt it, but it'd make my day if he wrote that.

 

Sasuke: Okay, Sakura, I love you.

 

Sakura: Yeah...about that...I love Naruto now.  :narusaku:

 

NH fans:  :jawdrop:

 

NS fans:  :banana:






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