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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:31 AM

When it comes to Hinata, impossible becomes the possible.

You would have replied to me the exact same way if I told you one year ago that Hamura visited Hinata and told her she was the "Byakugan Princess", gave her super powers that makes even Naruto's powers useless. (Naruto and Sasuke has only half of Hagoromo's powers btw)

Look what happened :zaru:

 

NOOOO. Your silly logic is killing meh!!!!

 

kitten. That damn hussy Hyuga is KILLING ME SOFTLY... with her damn "Nardo-kun!" Telling my whole life with her boobs...killing me softly with her "Nardo-kun!" :wallbash:


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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:32 AM

Though it's funny Kishi tells us to read the manga to understand the Last, yet the Last treats the manga like it never existed...

Correct me if I'm wrong. But I thought he said people didn't need to read the manga to understand the movie.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


#53483 NarutoUzumaki01

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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:32 AM

Kanade ,Keisuke,Shina,Shinachiku,Konohana and Hanako are the most agreed upon NaruSaku kid names right?

Maybe.



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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:33 AM

 
Ramen, do you see over there at Japan a big part of the fans interested in the Burrito movie? Like , hoping for good things to come out of it?

I only go to 2ch so it's not like I know the whole Japanese opinions. And the 2ch I go to frequently is the anti-LAST/anti-series thread so obviously they're not interested.

I know there are still people who ships NH. They'll probably be interested.
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#53485 Tsuki Hoshino

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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:34 AM

You have status? I thought you were just Tsuki.

Demigoddess of Misfortune Tsuki! The sinker of ships, The harbinger of bad luck! The Great Calamity! The Crisis! :hm: that's quite a mighty title and status thank you very much!

 


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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:34 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong. But I thought he said people didn't need to read the manga to understand the movie.

 

Reading the manga makes you understand the movie even less


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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:34 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong. But I thought he said people didn't need to read the manga to understand the movie.

I thought he said people should read the manga to be able to fully understand the movie, but maybe you're right. Hell he could have said both things, as we know how much he likes to contradict himself.


 


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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:35 AM

Like others have said before maybe this is kish's way of saying he was forced or something,because the real Naruto would never do these things. He is trying to tell us he was forced to replace Naruto with a fake. I also doubt kish would ruin his own work unless forced.


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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:35 AM

He said please read the manga before you watch the movie. But if you didn't read, that's okay too.
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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:35 AM

Demigoddess of Misfortune Tsuki! The sinker of ships, The harbinger of bad luck! The Great Calamity! The Crisis! :hm: that's quite a mighty title and status thank you very much!

 

But...why would such a mighty person be talking to hair :umm:



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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:36 AM

Demigoddess of Misfortune Tsuki! The sinker of ships, The harbinger of bad luck! The Great Calamity! The Crisis! :hm: that's quite a mighty title and status thank you very much!

 

I thought he said people should read the manga to be able to fully understand the movie, but maybe you're right. Hell he could have said both things, as we know how much he likes to contradict himself.

He said that people need to see movie to understand last chapter, So basically The Last+700=chapters 1-699  :zaru:



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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:36 AM

Like others have said before maybe this is kish's way of saying he was forced or something,because the real Naruto would never do these things. He is trying to tell us he was forced to replace Naruto with a fake. I also doubt kish would ruin his own work unless forced.

 

Why do you still believe in Kishi? Its more than obvious that he f**cked up everything himself, its his manga, his rules. The last word  regarding the manga comes from him

 

And thats why NH fans are wrong, they are trying to paint Kishi as this huge genius who planned everything up even the shipping thing, NEWSFLASH, this is not true! Its obvious Naruto part 2 wasn't planned ever, and thats why after Yahagi left things got so f**cked up, Kishi didn't know where he would take the story


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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:38 AM

 

Why do you still believe in Kishi? Its more than obvious that he f**cked up everything himself, its his manga, his rules. The last word  regarding the manga comes from him

Well surely it is, but on what terms?



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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:39 AM

 
NOOOO. Your silly logic is killing meh!!!!
 
kitten. That damn hussy Hyuga is KILLING ME SOFTLY... with her damn "Nardo-kun!" Telling my whole life with her boobs...killing me softly with her "Nardo-kun!" :wallbash:

It's time you beg down to Hinata's boobs. Even the main character's life is revolving around her and acting like her slave.
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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:41 AM

 

Why do you still believe in Kishi? Its more than obvious that he f**cked up everything himself, its his manga, his rules. The last word  regarding the manga comes from him

 

And thats why NH fans are wrong, they are trying to paint Kishi as this huge genius who planned everything up even the shipping thing, NEWSFLASH, this is not true! Is obvious Naruto part 2 wasn't planned ever, and thats why after Yahagi left things got so f**cked up, Kishi didn't know where he would take the story

I don't believe in kish,because even if he was forced he could of stood up against it. He could of just came out and said he was forced,instead of destroying his characters even more.


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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:42 AM

He said please read the manga before you watch the movie. But if you didn't read, that's okay too.

Ok thanks. So basically he told people to read the manga so they can get pissed because the movie ignores the entire manga or don't read the manga because it doesn't really matter because the movie ignores the manga.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:43 AM

AHHH I CAN'T CATCH UP QUICKLY  :argh:  :argh:  :argh:

 

I only go to 2ch so it's not like I know the whole Japanese opinions. And the 2ch I go to frequently is the anti-LAST/anti-series thread so obviously they're not interested.

I know there are still people who ships NH. They'll probably be interested.

Well, there are people on twitter who hate it too except those who like NH... :ermm:


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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:43 AM

But...why would such a mighty person be talking to hair :umm:

I get lonely :umm: Not many people want to be around me since it causes bad things to happen to them...


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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:44 AM

The whole point of the character of Pain, especially with his clash with Jiraya.  Sasuke gets into it to. It's another reason why the Uchiha rebelled and Itachi needed to kill them, because the Village wouldn't listen to the Uchiha's bs. So they tried to take over the village. Had they just listened to them, then Itachi and all of the Uchiha wouldn't have rebelled. It's Mickey Mouse bs, and an oversimplification of a major idea. It takes the idea of universal peace, and boils it down to an answer that a child may give in a kindergarten class.

 

Most rebellions don't just happen because people "don't listen/care". They happen because of real issues that divide people into two or more conflicting factions.Take the American Civil War for example. No amount of talking was going to unite the pro and anti slavery factions in the United States. People tried, there were whole political parties and movements that tried to stop it, like the Constitutional Union party. There were events such as the Missouri Comprise, and other events that tried to bring the issue around in a peaceful way. Sometimes though issues become more important then even the idea of peace itself, and factions clash over what they believe is important. That's the history of humanity and warfare.

 

When peace is achieved without war, it is often done by ways of the outright internal failures of one faction. For example the USSR feel because of the ineffectiveness of planned economic systems that have no or little market forces connected with it. A nuclear war didn't happen in the end largely because one of the main factions collapsed in on itself. It had nothing to do with people "caring" more.

 

These ideas that he seemed to want to address with his themes... he simply did a horrible job with, and honestly came up with child like answers to complex issues. At which point he shouldn't of bothered to try to include them in his narrative. At least in my opinion.

 

Kishimoto essentially "solved"  the problem of differing human factions, by having the forces go to war, and that war united the different factions of the Ninja world together for a generation or two, well also having nothing negative happen to the "evil" force that united said factions. Sasuke not only doesn't pay for his crimes, he gets the girl, gets a family, with not even a slap on the wrist. Madara and Obitio die mostly with the idea that they aren't villains but misunderstood "heroes", and the person who becomes the only thing close to a true villain in the end of this story, is as a character that basically represents over protective motherhood.

 

Hell he could have ended it by having "the world" unite against an alien invasion and his themes would have remained the same. The only difference is we wouldn't have gotten all of the Uchiha bullsh**.

 

I'm reminded of Percy Bysshe Shelley famous poem. One that someone should have handed Kishimoto when he first outlined these stupid ideas.

 

"I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,

 

The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:

And on the pedestal these words appear:
'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
"

Curse the limit of likes. Wonderful post.

 

I will say this. Though I could have sworn Itachi blamed the whole world because I remember him shouting when the police force was there, saying something that Uchiha is kitten, but correct me if you will. That said the part about war, yes. 100% agreed. I didn't like the fact that Kishi managed to make a lot of things purposely done, rather than "life sucks". Like it was fine that Rin did what she has to do according to Obito, only to find out Madara staged it. So what the hell. Then you have Zetsu fooled Uchiha because reasons. Again, what the hell. To be honest, if a person wants to remake but not the whole thing, rather a destination point, it would be after Pain Arc.

 

Everything after that arc became too fictional. It's weird how that sounds but my point is that Naruto was once seen to be realistic in a shounen universe, hence why people got hook on the series in the first place. He kept using the term "realistic," especially with Sakura. But then, Kage Summit Arc introduced the idea of God did this for them to follow the instructions, like Naruto and Sasuke happened to be reincarnations, thus fated to meet and fight. Nothing is genuine anymore. Then you got every characters going "one step forward, two steps backward," mainly on Naruto and Sakura. Sasuke can be argued the same, but the treatment from third party made him seem the one that all should love. The war arc, the less said the better.

 

Thank you for this post.



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Posted 14 January 2015 - 12:44 AM

I wonder, why nh fans are taking long in attack NS with the rivalry thing? 


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