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[Popuri]

You ignored my best intentions 

And I made you cry 

That's mean I'm bad.

 

Aren't you naruto? You're bad then. 

 

I'm going to let anyone watch bolt movie then give me (us) spoiler. I'm not gonna watch it.

[ramenanmitsu]

 
If Hussynata is the main star... HELL TO THE kitten-NO!!!!

Someone in 2ch predicted that she might be Hokage in the Boruto movie. More reasons to watch.

[Shadow1275]

Looking forward to the Boruto movie. I know you guys are too.

[Derock]

   

Unlikely

didn't Kishi promise Chie that he's gonna focus on trying to justify SS?

 

Yeah, when I see pigs, fish, and all of the land mammals fly.

[Popuri]

Come on. It's going to be fascinating how much more kitten they can pull off. One year ago, I was in the mindset that this series can't disappoint me any further but they still keep on exceeding my expectations even now. I want to see where is the lowest they can go. It excites me! I might even watch it out of curiosity. Development and building aren't the only reasons to watch a series, destruction and failure are reasons enough to get curious.

Ohhh, watch to rant than 

[RedFaction]

Oh sorry I should correct that statement. Here you go: "Basically filler became canon but only when it comes to NH/Hinata and canon became filler. Or should I say canon became nonexistent according to them."

True. All the NH filler will now be considered canon by the current Naruto fandom, as only the NH/SS fans remain, and the rest of the filler is still filler. And yeah it's like the entire canon manga is 100% worthless now as chapter 699, 700, and the Last completely contradict the manga on every level.

[Jio Freed]

 

Come on. It's going to be fascinating how much more kitten they can pull off. One year ago, I was in the mindset that this series can't disappoint me any further but they still keep on exceeding my expectations even now. I want to see where is the lowest they can go. It excites me! I might even watch it out of curiosity. Development and building aren't the only reasons to watch a series, destruction and failure are reasons enough to get curious.

 

Its one of the reasons we all love Batman & Robin

[Derock]

Someone in 2ch predicted that she might be Hokage in the Boruto movie. More reasons to watch.

 

No. Unacceptable.

 

[Nostradamus]

Come on. It's going to be fascinating how much more kitten they can pull off. One year ago, I was in the mindset that this series can't disappoint me any further but they still keep on exceeding my expectations even now. I want to see where is the lowest they can go. It excites me! I might even watch it out of curiosity. Development and building aren't the only reasons to watch a series, destruction and failure are reasons enough to get curious.

I'm not going to read/watch the continuation of this crap. But I sure enjoy the aftermath of their decision. Watching them fail so hard is a pleasure for me. I love this so much.

[Tiller]

Which one is that from?

The whole point of the character of Pain, especially with his clash with Jiraya.  Sasuke gets into it to. It's another reason why the Uchiha rebelled and Itachi needed to kill them, because the Village wouldn't listen to the Uchiha's bs. So they tried to take over the village. Had they just listened to them, then Itachi and all of the Uchiha wouldn't have rebelled. It's Mickey Mouse bs, and an oversimplification of a major idea. It takes the idea of universal peace, and boils it down to an answer that a child may give in a kindergarten class.

 

Most rebellions don't just happen because people "don't listen/care". They happen because of real issues that divide people into two or more conflicting factions.Take the American Civil War for example. No amount of talking was going to unite the pro and anti slavery factions in the United States. People tried, there were whole political parties and movements that tried to stop it, like the Constitutional Union party. There were events such as the Missouri Comprise, and other events that tried to bring the issue around in a peaceful way. Sometimes though issues become more important then even the idea of peace itself, and factions clash over what they believe is important. That's the history of humanity and warfare.

 

When peace is achieved without war, it is often done by ways of the outright internal failures of one faction. For example the USSR feel because of the ineffectiveness of planned economic systems that have no or little market forces connected with it. A nuclear war didn't happen in the end largely because one of the main factions collapsed in on itself. It had nothing to do with people "caring" more.

 

These ideas that he seemed to want to address with his themes... he simply did a horrible job with, and honestly came up with child like answers to complex issues. At which point he shouldn't of bothered to try to include them in his narrative. At least in my opinion.

 

Kishimoto essentially "solved"  the problem of differing human factions, by having the forces go to war, and that war united the different factions of the Ninja world together for a generation or two, well also having nothing negative happen to the "evil" force that united said factions. Sasuke not only doesn't pay for his crimes, he gets the girl, gets a family, with not even a slap on the wrist. Madara and Obitio die mostly with the idea that they aren't villains but misunderstood "heroes", and the person who becomes the only thing close to a true villain in the end of this story, is as a character that basically represents over protective motherhood.

 

Hell he could have ended it by having "the world" unite against an alien invasion and his themes would have remained the same. The only difference is we wouldn't have gotten all of the Uchiha kitten.

 

I'm reminded of Percy Bysshe Shelley famous poem. One that someone should have handed Kishimoto when he first outlined these stupid ideas.

 

"I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,

 

The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:

And on the pedestal these words appear:
'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."

[NarutoUzumaki01]

I didn't see them 

But I see them now...I went back and looked...You are indeed a kind man for donating blood! 

 

 

Aren't you naruto? You're bad then. 

Say what? I'm not douchebag, I'm never go down on my promise! 

[Nar123]

Saw a NH fan saying HInata was more important in the manga than Shikamaru...yep I'm done

 

[Tsuki Hoshino]

I'll watch the Burrito movie...When I become a Kage ( I.E; NEVER Suckaaa's! )

I did not! You gave voluntarily!!    I may have misspelled 

 

You did nothing wrong, let's go get ice cream *whispers* he wants your fame

 

Sometimes, I wish I were a regular person Ryo  Sometimes I feel like people just don't appreciate ME, but rather my status...

 

Edited by Tsuki Hoshino, 14 January 2015 - 12:27 AM.

[ramenanmitsu]

 
No. Unacceptable.
 

When it comes to Hinata, impossible becomes the possible.

You would have replied to me the exact same way if I told you one year ago that Hamura visited Hinata and told her she was the "Byakugan Princess", gave her super powers that makes even Naruto's powers useless. (Naruto and Sasuke has only half of Hagoromo's powers btw)

Look what happened

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 14 January 2015 - 12:27 AM.

[Nostradamus]

True. All the NH filler will now be considered canon by the current Naruto fandom, as only the NH/SS fans remain, and the rest of the filler is still filler. And yeah it's like the entire canon manga is 100% worthless now as chapter 699, 700, and the Last completely contradict the manga on every level.

The Last doesn't actually contradict the manga. It just tells us that the manga never existed. All of us read something that ever existed.

[Nar123]

The whole point of the character of Pain, especially with his clash with Jiraya.  Sasuke gets into it to. It's another reason why the Uchiha rebelled and Itachi needed to kill them, because the Village wouldn't listen to the Uchiha's bs. So they tried to take over the village. Had they just listened to them, then Itachi and all of the Uchiha wouldn't have rebelled. It's Mickey Mouse bs, and an oversimplification of a major idea. It takes the idea of universal peace, and boils it down to an answer that a child may give in a kindergarten class.

 

Most rebellions don't just happen because people "don't listen/care". They happen because of real issues that divide people into two or more conflicting factions.Take the American Civil War for example. No amount of talking was going to unite the pro and anti slavery factions in the United States. People tried, there were whole political parties and movements that tried to stop it, like the Constitutional Union party. There were events such as the Missouri Comprise, and other events that tried to bring the issue around in a peaceful way. Sometimes though issues become more important then even the idea of peace itself, and factions clash over what they believe is important. That's the history of humanity and warfare.

 

When peace is achieved without war, it is often done by ways of the outright internal failures of one faction. For example the USSR feel because of the ineffectiveness of planned economic systems that have no or little market forces connected with it. A nuclear war didn't happen in the end largely because one of the main factions collapsed in on itself. It had nothing to do with people "caring" more.

 

These ideas that he seemed to want to address with his themes... he simply did a horrible job with, and honestly came up with child like answers to complex issues. At which point he shouldn't of bothered to try to include them in his narrative. At least in my opinion.

 

Kishimoto essentially "solved"  the problem of differing human factions, by having the forces go to war, and that war united the different factions of the Ninja world together for a generation or two, well also having nothing negative happen to the "evil" force that united said factions. Sasuke not only doesn't pay for his crimes, he gets the girl, gets a family, with not even a slap on the wrist. Madara and Obitio die mostly with the idea that they aren't villains but misunderstood "heroes", and the person who becomes the only thing close to a true villain in the end of this story, is as a character that basically represents over protective motherhood.

 

Hell he could have ended it by having "the world" unite against an alien invasion and his themes would have remained the same. The only difference is we wouldn't have gotten all of the Uchiha bullsh**.

 

I'm reminded of Percy Bysshe Shelley famous poem. One that someone should have handed Kishimoto when he first outlined these stupid ideas.

 

"I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,

 

The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:

And on the pedestal these words appear:
'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."

 

 

Great post Tiller, its refreshing to see such a well constructed post after enduring the BS I had to endure

Edited by Nar123, 14 January 2015 - 12:27 AM.

[DeathGodMack]

Kanade ,Keisuke,Shina,Shinachiku,Konohana and Hanako are the most agreed upon NaruSaku kid names right?

[Gaara's hair]

 

I'll watch the Burrito movie...When I become a Kage ( I.E; NEVER Suckaaa's! )

Sometimes, I wish I were a regular person Ryo  Sometimes I feel like people just don't appreciate ME, but rather my status...

 

 

You have status? I thought you were just Tsuki.

[Nar123]

When it comes to Hinata, impossible becomes the possible.

You would have replied to me the exact same way if I told you one year ago that Hamura visited Hinata and told her she was the "Byakugan Princess", gave her super powers that makes even Naruto's powers useless. (Naruto and Sasuke has only half of Hagoromo's powers btw)

Look what happened

 

Ramen, do you see over there at Japan a big part of the fans interested in the Burrito movie? Like , hoping for good things to come out of it?

Edited by Nar123, 14 January 2015 - 12:29 AM.

[RedFaction]

The Last doesn't actually contradict the manga. It just tells us that the manga never existed. All of us read something that ever existed.

Though it's funny Kishi tells us to read the manga to understand the Last, yet the Last treats the manga like it never existed...