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[Anguyen92]

I vote for this scenario:
Sakura saving Naruto somehow, getting injured.

I can't believe that the particular fanart was almost our chat background and people dissapprove of it. Its tremendous stuff, though our current background is great. So that picture is basically saying that Sakura took a blow for Naruto right? If so, storytelling-wise, it would be great.

Edit: That the fanart was not our background, though it could have be somewhat of an eyesore at times.

Edited by Anguyen92, 07 September 2011 - 11:02 PM.

[CloudMountainJuror]

I can't believe that, that background was almost our chat background and people dissapprove of it. Its tremendous stuff, though our current background is great. So that picture is basically saying that Sakura took a blow for Naruto right? If so, storytelling-wise, it would be great.

You can't believe what? Sorry a little confused ^^'
And yeah, that's what the picture implies, also considering that the title is "Save You".

[nsfan17]

my personal favorite would be the avatar the last airbender ending scenario.

PS: question. would any of you guys call sakura making naruto promise to bring sasuke back a manipulation? I doubt that's the case, seeing what had happened in chapter 458-459, but I really can't tell all that much.

[Anguyen92]

^^ Hmmmmm, is the promise of a lifetime, a manipulation? Well, since she actually tried to stop the sob from leaving, I highly doubt that, but however, at the time, she thinks that she was really useless and could rely on Naruto for being a problem solver, so, as usual, I don't know.

Well, I guess the question would have been this. What would have happened in Naruto and Sakura's relationship if Naruto brought back Sasuke for the first time? Now, I have read Toasty Warrior's fics on the matter and it turns out really well and real in the end, but I don't know Kishi's mindset if that scenario were to occur.

Edited by Anguyen92, 08 September 2011 - 07:48 PM.

[Darth Krypt]

How about this for a confession scene? Sakura will make a promise of a lifetime to Naruto. Something like she will never hurt Naruto ever again. "Naruto, I love you and will never hurt you in any way ever again. This is a promise of a lifetime. " Instead of a thumbs up and a grin its sealed with a hug or a kiss. Its quite fitting since Naruto's promise to Sakura has always been a hindrance to NS. Why not reverse it?

Edited by Darth Krypt, 08 September 2011 - 10:37 PM.

[catsi563]

Because that plays into the tired old sakura was a beatch to naruto and has and must do some type of eternal pennance tripe I hear and read fron anti-NSers all the time, and its frankly gotten annoying. Sakura has nothing to apologize for save maybe the need to apologize for always relying on naruto and crying (her own words) all the time when younger.

A more appropriate promise of a lifetime for her to him would be based on a promise to always stand by his side and never to let him face anything alone again like he had to when younger. A promise that plays off of and recalls the promise she made to him in the hospital (next time well do it together), and the promise she made after the reunion with Sasuke (Im here too, well get stronger together). those would be much better promises to make and more in character for her.

[Anguyen92]

Because that plays into the tired old sakura was a beatch to naruto and has and must do some type of eternal pennance tripe I hear and read fron anti-NSers all the time, and its frankly gotten annoying. Sakura has nothing to apologize for save maybe the need to apologize for always relying on naruto and crying (her own words) all the time when younger.

A more appropriate promise of a lifetime for her to him would be based on a promise to always stand by his side and never to let him face anything alone again like he had to when younger. A promise that plays off of and recalls the promise she made to him in the hospital (next time well do it together), and the promise she made after the reunion with Sasuke (Im here too, well get stronger together). those would be much better promises to make and more in character for her.

YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! A thousand times this. I always keep reading this kind of promise/statement in fanfics alot, and it always warms me, if Sakura would make a great promise of lifetime to make sure that Naruto would never be alone. That would be tremedous, heartwarming, and probably makes me cry inside. I hope she said something like that in their next meeting with each other.

[Darth Krypt]

Yeah that's better. I was unsure on the content of the promise so I just cook up something. My point is incorporating a promise of a lifetime to a NS confession. Even Naruto could make a new one to Sakura. But I would prefer if Sakura did it this time. A confession suits a POAL better than saving Sasuke because its basically a marriage proposal. I wonder whether Kishi introduced the POAL as foreshadowing to a NS confession just like how the bench scene could be used again.

Edited by Darth Krypt, 09 September 2011 - 12:31 AM.

[Phantom_999]

AS LONG AS IT HAPPENS, I don't care how honestly

[Super Boom]

Yeah that's better. I was unsure on the content of the promise so I just cook up something. My point is incorporating a promise of a lifetime to a NS confession. Even Naruto could make a new one to Sakura. But I would prefer if Sakura did it this time. A confession suits a POAL better than saving Sasuke because its basically a marriage proposal. I wonder whether Kishi introduced the POAL as foreshadowing to a NS confession just like how the bench scene could be used again.

I think you and catsi might be on to something, especially with the bolded part of your statement. Maybe it's been discussed here before, but I've never actually thought about the POAL as potential foreshadowing. It makes perfect sense though, considering a marriage proposal is essentially a 'promise of a lifetime'. That line was a promise made from Naruto specifically to Sakura, and it seems to me like it'd be very well within Kishimoto's style of writing to re-use that line in a more romantic context.

I guess I would just hope the scene is blatant enough to be established as a love confession. I know many shounen stories with romantic subplots don't have official confessions as much as the 'acknowledgement of feelings' catsi mentioned earlier, but Hinata's and Sakura's (x2) confessions were pretty straightforward as "I love you" type scenes. I guess I just hope the eventual N/S confession/acknowledgement/whatever is enough to blow every previous one out of the water.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 09 September 2011 - 03:02 AM.

[Anguyen92]

I guess I would just hope the scene is blatant enough to be established as a love confession. I know many shounen stories with romantic subplots don't have official confessions as much as the 'acknowledgement of feelings' catsi mentioned earlier, but Hinata's and Sakura's (x2) confessions were pretty straightforward as "I love you" type scenes. I guess I just hope the eventual N/S confession/acknowledgement/whatever is enough to blow every previous one out of the water.

Pretty much, in all honesty, I expect their next conversation to be the ultimate blowoff to this shipping war and shuts down all the critics that says that this can't happen. They haven't seen each other for a long time, so their moment with each other has to be big.

Edited by Anguyen92, 09 September 2011 - 04:10 PM.

[Codus N]

A more appropriate promise of a lifetime for her to him would be based on a promise to always stand by his side and never to let him face anything alone again like he had to when younger. A promise that plays off of and recalls the promise she made to him in the hospital (next time well do it together), and the promise she made after the reunion with Sasuke (Im here too, well get stronger together). those would be much better promises to make and more in character for her.

Wow, that would totally be an excellent confession/proposal scene for the end of the series. It'd be perfect as it ties into one of the themes of the manga, exactly how the EdWin proposal played out. Although, it might be hard for Kishi to top Arakawa in that regard. Especially when Ed's line actually won a real contest in the best line for proposing.

[Phantom_999]

my personal favorite would be the avatar the last airbender ending scenario.

PS: question. would any of you guys call sakura making naruto promise to bring sasuke back a manipulation? I doubt that's the case, seeing what had happened in chapter 458-459, but I really can't tell all that much.

IIIIIIIIII.............. don't really like Avatar so I would have to say no. Besides they didn't even say anything at the end just kissed like a fairy tale ending. And no one actually said Sakura was Manipulating Naruto to bring Sasuke back We all know she was a brokenhearted girl making a desperate request, and placing her trust in the friend she took for granted if any one DID say that they are not true Sakura fans On another note, WELCOME!!

THAT is a good idea Anguyen!

Edited by Phantom_999, 09 September 2011 - 09:01 PM.

[Anguyen92]

You know, going back into the whole possibility of "Sakura making a promise of a lifetime to Naruto" topic got me thinking.

Now, there might have been critics that says that Sakura only ends up with Naruto only as a second choice because of the whole falling out with Sasuke.

If she does makes a promise of a lifetime to Naruto that he will never have to face anything alone ever again, that she will never hurt him again and apologizes for "hurting" him in the first place, that she would always be on his side no matter what, etc, that would shut the critics up because they don't have much of a rebutal after that.

That possible promise would show that, yes, Sakura would be just as commited to the relationship as much as Naruto would be. And it would not be the typical guy saves the girl and the girl falls in love with him. It would be just two people with a small budding relationship that just blooms to the highest point that it can be, which in my and probably most people's mind, is the better story.

Edit to Phantom: Thank Catsi for that idea. Catsi was the one that mentioned the details of a possible Sakura's promise of the lifetime. My statement was thought of after a while after Catsi made that post.

Edited by Anguyen92, 09 September 2011 - 09:54 PM.

[redkunai66]

the thing is i don't think a second POAL will happen soon. there's still too much going on to happen, id much rather that when they meet up again, sakura berate naruto for coming out into open battle, naruto rebutting saying that its necessary, and sakura conceding that the truth but still wanting him to be careful. you know regular naruto and sakura conversation, it'd take away from the awkwardness that was all over the pace the last time they talked,

A second POAL i think will only happen soon for sakura if its a do or die situation during battle, or after the war is finished- because there is too much going on still, mandara and kabuto are still at large, all the revived folks need to be wrapped up so to speak, and there's the inevitable sasuke confrontation.

hmm maybe sakura will make a POAL instead right before the last confrontation with sasuke- because that is a do or die situation for naruto, and its not one that sakura wants to miss on .
well i hope it happens than- it'd resonate well with when the 1st POAL happened- but uge naruto still thinks sakura loves mr. teme- so we need a promise that's something naruto would irrovocably believe. like i dunno.

"idiot if you die, i promise i'll follow after you to give you a beating! So come back damn it!"

Edited by redkunai66, 10 September 2011 - 01:53 AM.

[Miss Soupy]

With the way Kishi has sort of down-played the importance of the POAL recently, I have my doubts as to it being brought up much in the future. He also pretty much ignored Sakura's desire to help Naruto equally in bringing Sasuke back by having her say she will merely 'believe in both of them'.

So I'm skeptical. It would be nice, I think, for Sakura to say something about how she will make sure Naruto always has someone supporting him. Beyond that, I think their actions towards one another can speak volumes that would render such promises useless. That is, of course, once they decide to truly talk openly with one another and are a comfortable level of intimacy.

[redkunai66]

With the way Kishi has sort of down-played the importance of the POAL recently, I have my doubts as to it being brought up much in the future. He also pretty much ignored Sakura's desire to help Naruto equally in bringing Sasuke back by having her say she will merely 'believe in both of them'.

So I'm skeptical. It would be nice, I think, for Sakura to say something about how she will make sure Naruto always has someone supporting him. Beyond that, I think their actions towards one another can speak volumes that would render such promises useless. That is, of course, once they decide to truly talk openly with one another and are a comfortable level of intimacy.

yeah pretty much- if anything hinata's a better canidate for a promise "i'll be there forever with you" kinda jazz right now, thats all the girls minds on anyways. but what the hey, i just don't want kishi ending the series with no conclusion to the shipping wars.

[Darth Krypt]

the thing is i don't think a second POAL will happen soon. there's still too much going on to happen, id much rather that when they meet up again, sakura berate naruto for coming out into open battle, naruto rebutting saying that its necessary, and sakura conceding that the truth but still wanting him to be careful. you know regular naruto and sakura conversation, it'd take away from the awkwardness that was all over the pace the last time they talked,

Well I didn't say the POAL would happen soon, just that it will happen sometime. I just thought it is very fitting for the role to be reversed. We've seen alot of role reversal in NS context in part 2. Part 1 has emphasize on what Naruto would do for Sakura but part 2 is the opposite. Now I really do believe the POAL and the bench scene would be re-used for a NS moment. The POAL would probably happen before Naruto goes to battle with Sasuke and when he survived, the 2 will talk and the bench scene will be brought up again sealing the deal for NS.

Btw the content of the POAL doesn't necessarily need to be "I will be there forever with you". It could be anything else. I'll leave that open for Kishi to do it himself but I'm pretty sure the POAL would be re-used.

Edited by Darth Krypt, 10 September 2011 - 02:41 AM.

[Miss Soupy]

Just curious about what people think on this.

Will Kishi end the love triangle before Naruto faces Sasuke, or do you think it will happen after?

[redkunai66]

Well I didn't say the POAL would happen soon, just that it will happen sometime. I just thought it is very fitting for the role to be reversed. We've seen alot of role reversal in NS context in part 2. Part 1 has emphasize on what Naruto would do for Sakura but part 2 is the opposite. Now I really do believe the POAL and the bench scene would be re-used for a NS moment. The POAL would probably happen before Naruto goes to battle with Sasuke and when he survived, the 2 will talk and the bench scene will be brought up again sealing the deal for NS.

Btw the content of the POAL doesn't necessarily need to be "I will be there forever with you". It could be anything else. I'll leave that open for Kishi to do it himself but I'm pretty sure the POAL would be re-used.

*shrugs* fair enough, its nice to have but i'm not sure if its as important as you say. the one relationship that kishi concentrates the most on is naruto and sasukes- everything else so far seems secondary in importance to the story- given since sasuke and the uchihas are key point to plot and themes. POAL was important the 1st time partly because it wasn't just a promise sakura, i think naruto made that promise to himself internally too for sasuke's sake as well. thats why he rebutted sakura's claim that he was still going after sasuke for her sake: http://www.mangafox....v50/c470/3.html

miss soupy i think it depends on how kishi wants to add to the drama, if he resolves it before, if sakura does a POAL take two, than it adds to the pressure for naruto to come back alive (but we all know naruto will live somehow- he won't die/stay dead). but there's gonna be build up either way because if he doesn't end the triangle before, than the fans will be anxious to see how the battle end just as well as the conculsions to the relationships after.

i swear we're all still waiting for naruto to decline hinata as well, and i don't see that happeing till after the war.

Edited by redkunai66, 10 September 2011 - 03:06 AM.