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#5321 Dkey

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 02:56 PM

maybe violent is excessive but it feels pretty neutral to me

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 03:20 PM

Uh I wouldn't call that site neutral to be honest. they play off Sakura's feelings for Naruto and say she just views him "as a friend", when the real neutral answer would be it's unknown what she feels for him, because though she shows to think about Sasuke, there is no indication that she does not feel any romantic love for Naruto too. This of course is coming from a neutral view. Neutrality, means not calling one side or the other absolute, any side actually, despite your preferences. So I don't trust Narutopedia, in terms of  character relationships, they just type in what they want to believe and what they want to see. 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 03:31 PM

True but it's best to question it, rather than leave it as it is. If I see a hint or foreshadow, I will write it in the page the possibility of being in love. The databook is like that site, only addressing all views (mostly). That said if the databook questioned it, why can't you? I know everyone is entitled their own opinion, but to be honest, I see this one legit. Yamato's word was there for a reason. He clearly could just ended with what's important, nothing more than that. But no, we got an almost reveal twist. It's just as much as Zuko's mother revealed in first episode of Korra, just a tease from the creator.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 03:40 PM

One thing I found peculiar in the Narutopedia Minato's page: 

 

It's interesting how they didn't mention what was Naruto's answer, just how "violent" was Sakura's reaction to it.

 

... How was Sakura's act violent? I am deprived of words to express a single  thought on this comment from this site..


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 03:43 PM

Man, people needs to read/watch anime/manga more... Oddly enough, there are some shows today that has this "violent", only not over the top even though that's the charm.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 08:53 PM

which shows you can't trust these types of pages for information its just some butt hurt people that changed it up to satisfy themselves because they can't accept the truth . 

I'm not going to keep talking about NH and H, but just avoid Narutopedia, i dont even like it, because some info doesnt show up and when Sakura is involved they made the comic scenes to be a moment where Sakura is acting like a kitten and showing that she's abusive towards Naruto.


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:02 PM

Man, people needs to read/watch anime/manga more... Oddly enough, there are some shows today that has this "violent", only not over the top even though that's the charm.

 

Oddly thou a few days ago I wanted to check some info on attack on Titan and went to their wiki. And I remember the bias of narutopedia. Good thing I wasn't checking something pairing wise, cause those are the parts that usually attract the most bias but I saw myself vulnerable to a potential biased paragraph. For a series as long as Naruto some facts might be lost and you could prefer to read on the wiki instead of searching the whole damn manga again but honestly if you disagree with what's written there and you care enough then it won't affect you. I see Narutopedia as a place that isn't so dangerous. If it's biased against NS then it's their problem cause moments between Sakura and Naruto will happen and probably a resolution to either the confession or the entire love triangle will come and that will be that.

As for violent...I agree it is to harsh. Look at Minato's face after she hits Naruto. He is smiling, like if he is seeing something cute, not horrible. But it's just one word who knows why the author of the paragraph decided to use it.



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 10:08 PM

I'm not going to keep talking about NH and H, but just avoid Narutopedia, i dont even like it, because some info doesnt show up and when Sakura is involved they made the comic scenes to be a moment where Sakura is acting like a b*tch and showing that she's abusive towards Naruto.

people just don't unerstand what Kishi was trying to give off , it was more like he was showing us , Like Father , Like Son , the apple doesn't fall far from the tree . 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 11:01 PM

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 11:56 PM

 Wonderful simply wonderful


Thank you!!

Btw while I was browsing japanese results about my fanarts on google, I found this under my NS x MK old fanart.

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 12:17 AM

^That's good old memories! :D

 

And..I didn't know it was yours! =)

 

Congrats for finding the similarities, you must be quite observant to do that. :P


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 12:47 AM

^That's good old memories! :D
 
And..I didn't know it was yours! =)
 
Congrats for finding the similarities, you must be quite observant to do that. :P


Oh no I was referring to my old fanart, you know the one with Kushina and Sakura standing behind Naruto and Minato. The results led to this Japanese blog and they were posting parallels, and that pic up there was there. I always saw the English version so I was surprised to find also the Japanese one :)
 
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Posted 09 August 2013 - 12:53 AM

Oh no I was referring to my old fanart, you know the one with Kushina and Sakura standing behind Naruto and Minato. The results led to this Japanese blog and they were posting parallels, and that pic up there was there. I always saw the English version so I was surprised to find also the Japanese one :)

Oh ok now I understand. ^-^


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 01:07 AM

Thank you!!

Btw while I was browsing japanese results about my fanarts on google, I found this under my NS x MK old fanart.

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That was a wonderful picture , the one you drew . 


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 01:13 AM

Thank you!!

Btw while I was browsing japanese results about my fanarts on google, I found this under my NS x MK old fanart.

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You know, I always thought the look back from Naruto and Minato was something really special. Kishi would really want fans to notice this to draw those panels out the way he did. He definitely did it with a reason and meaning behind it. Parallels, parallels everywhere.

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 02:03 AM

I can't stand when Naruto and Sakura's adorable slapstick interactions are labeled as abuse. What Karui did to Naruto was abusive, Sakura was just being tsundere. Punching or kicking someone for humorous effect is a common trope in manga and anime, it's not really meant to be taken as abuse.



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Posted 09 August 2013 - 02:07 AM

I can't stand when Naruto and Sakura's adorable slapstick interactions are labeled as abuse. What Karui did to Naruto was abusive, Sakura was just being tsundere. Punching or kicking someone for humorous effect is a common trope in manga and anime, it's not really meant to be taken as abuse.

lols . This . I was just on a forum titled , Will Sakura eventually fall for Naruto .? Everybody on that post is saying , that she abuses him too much . Why can't they see that Naruto is okay with it .? And Sakura does it out of love . Naruto hasn't lifted a finger back to hit her not one time , i'm staring to think he likes when Sakura hits him lols . 


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 04:30 AM

I can't stand when Naruto and Sakura's adorable slapstick interactions are labeled as abuse. What Karui did to Naruto was abusive, Sakura was just being tsundere. Punching or kicking someone for humorous effect is a common trope in manga and anime, it's not really meant to be taken as abuse.

I hear that. It's ridiculous that everything slapstick is abusive. Look, if the character(s) make funny expression or the mood/atmosphere indicates comedy, then why take it hard. In anime form, do you hear sad music playing when Naruto gets hit by Sakura? No. Do you see anyone telling her to stop in a serious way? No. Hell, don't you think Naruto could easily evade it. For that matter, Akatsuki should have hired her since she can actually hit Naruto and make him bleed in a matter of second. Sarcasm, if you don't understand, haters.

 

They should be lucky that we are handed to moe stuff now, so tsundere is "hard" to understand. But back then, man, there were so many, that you might as well quit altogether. Actually, all the good ones usually come from shows that contains one or more. Now, it's all about "Gee, do I feel comfortable watching this?" series. I'm not saying tsundere is needed, but when it has one and the show itself is great, don't let that one character ruined everything. Just accept the writing and move on. Easy as that.



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Posted 09 August 2013 - 04:35 AM

I hear that. It's ridiculous that everything slapstick is abusive. Look, if the character(s) make funny expression or the mood/atmosphere indicates comedy, then why take it hard. In anime form, do you hear sad music playing when Naruto gets hit by Sakura? No. Do you see anyone telling her to stop in a serious way? No. Hell, don't you think Naruto could easily evade it. For that matter, Akatsuki should have hired her since she can actually hit Naruto and make him bleed in a matter of second. Sarcasm, if you don't understand, haters.

 

They should be lucky that we are handed to moe stuff now, so tsundere is "hard" to understand. But back then, man, there were so many, that you might as well quit altogether. Actually, all the good ones usually come from shows that contains one or more. Now, it's all about "Gee, do I feel comfortable watching this?" series. I'm not saying tsundere is needed, but when it has one and the show itself is great, don't let that one character ruined everything. Just accept the writing and move on. Easy as that.

I love Sakura's character as a whole . How she can be herself around our NUmber 1 Knucklehead Hyperactive ninja . 


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 04:57 AM

I love Sakura's character as a whole . How she can be herself around our NUmber 1 Knucklehead Hyperactive ninja . 

One would imagine what would happen if she remains the girl who keeps hiding her real persona.

 

Odd that this never occurred to me till now. Sakura trusts Naruto 100% yet with Sasuke is... I wonder what would be like if it was Naruto that entered late. I can imagine Sai being all happy, asking Sakura the good news and Sakura would say the same line, only with a real smile. Kishi, what are you trying to say?...






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