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#5321 PhenixElite

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Nov 5 2012, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I stumbled upon something rather interesting. It seems that in the Special Promo DVD of Road to Ninja which contains an interview from Kishimoto, it mentions that the character he most likely resembles is Naruto or maybe Kiba.

But the interesting part is that he said that the female character he'd go out with is Hinata.

It was mentioned by a user named takl in NF. The reason I believe he's not lying is because a while ago he also informed us of another interview that Kishi had with japanese playboy in which he said he created Hinata for the sake of having a big breasted character.

What do you guys make of this new info? It's probably irrelevant, but might as well discuss it.

I dont really take such information from NF serious and we should bet on the info thats given by the manga not interviews.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 08:16 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Nov 5 2012, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dont really take such information from NF serious and we should bet on the info thats given by the manga not interviews.

I know, I know. tongue.gif

But it's better than having to talk about the same things over and over again. I'd rather just do it for fun, not out of worry.

How about this:

Since he also said that he views himself a little in Kiba that might mean Kiba and Hinata might end up together in some epilogue. It could be a personal fanservice to himself since he already build the story for Naruto to end up with Sakura.

On the same note according to that interview his answer was something along the lines of "it's a little creepy to think about dating one of the female characters I created, but if I was forced to then I guess it would be... Hinata, maybe".

It could very well be that he just gave an answer for the sake of giving it. Maybe he only said Hinata because she has the biggest breast (if the playboy interview is anything to go by). Besides, it's been known that Kishi is very fond of Sakura as if she was a daughter to him, so it would've been even more creepy if he had said Sakura. laugh.gif

What do you guys think?

Edited by redragon88, 05 November 2012 - 08:22 PM.


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Posted 05 November 2012 - 08:22 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Nov 5 2012, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know, I know. tongue.gif

But it's better than having to talk about the same things over and over again. I'd rather just do it for fun, not out of worry.

How about this:

Since he also said that he views himself a little in Kiba that might mean Kiba and Hinata might end up together in some epilogue. It could be a personal fanservice to himself since he already build the story for Naruto to end up with Sakura.

On another note according to that same interview his answer was something along the lines of "it's a little creepy to think about dating one of my female characters, but if had to choose I guess it would be... Hinata, maybe".

It could very well be that he just gave an answer for the sake of giving it. Maybe he only said Hinata because she has the biggest breast (if the playboy interview is anything to go by). Besides, it's been known that Kishi is very fond of Sakura as if she was a daughter to him, so it would be even more creepy if he had said Sakura. laugh.gif

What do you guys think?

Well i thought the same thing about kiba and hinata.
Also check out the road to ninja thread, a member said that kishi said something about NS and it seems to be positive since the one who posted it was not amused cause hes ANTI NS.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 09:59 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Nov 1 2012, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hm, I wasn't here on that "day" so I would like to ask people here. Technically, it is counted as a debate in certain aspect, so here I go:

1) When Hinata confess her love, what was your reaction at that time and how did you feel about NS after that?

I hadn't joined any forums at that point (or at least, wasn't active on any of them). I remember feeling a bit disappointed and annoyed, and thinking that NH might happen after all, but I wasn't completely sold that it would.
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2) The fight ended and Sakura hugs Naruto. What is your thought at that time and did it help you feel better about NS?

I was part of the forums for that, and if you want, here's a convenient link to the thread for that:

Spoilers: http://www.narusaku....i...t=0&start=0
Chapter Release: http://www.narusaku....?showtopic=8765

It was an awesome feeling, and definitely restored any confidence I had lost from the NaruHina confession wink.gif It was one of those great times to be a NaruSaku fan for sure!
QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Nov 2 2012, 07:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
About the lover nin scene: i dont think its there to misslead us, i think its there to show us sakura overthinking her feelings for sasuke. I mean if it was something else, we could have also seen sakura saying that she loves someone else and afterwards thinks of sasuke. BUT NO, we got the lovernin saying:"If its somebody you love hes bound to be a great person." and afterwards sakura thinks of sasuke in bad light.
Why would kishi add this scene if it was to show that sakura still loves sasuke?

So for sure this is a big message. But its no positive for SS, its one for NS.

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Nov 2 2012, 09:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or it could be for both reasons. Like the old saying goes "two birds, one stone".

I do believe Kishi wants to create doubt on the romantic conclusion so that when it's finally resolved it can really take people by surprise. So even though it might look obvious that Sakura would eventually end up with Naruto, Kishi still wants to create some tension for his audience so that the end of the love development doesn't come off as boring and predictable.

I think that Kishi definitely the love letter nin scene there primarily to be a catalyst for Sakura rethinking her romantic feelings for Sasuke and eventually getting over them, and secondly to add tension and drama to the romance subplot.

PhenixElite makes an excellent point, imo, that if the scene was just to reinforce Sakura's love for Sasuke, then it would have made for sense for Sakura to be shown thinking of Sasuke when she first responded that she already has someone that she likes, rather than after the love letter nin talked about whoever she loves must be a great guy.

Also, just stop and think for a minute about how ludicrous of a scene it really is if its just to reinforce Sakura's feelings that were just confirmed last arc for Sasuke: Its right in the middle of the war, a tense moment with the spy at camp, and here's comes this random fodder nin, a grown man, with a love letter of all things. A grown male soldier giving a teenage girl a love letter in the middle of war. And all that just to tell us what we already knew from last arc and before? No - the love letter nin was necessary as a person who knew absolutely nothing about Sasuke and Sakura's feelings for and relationship with him in order to make a comment like he did. None of the other named characters could have been in a position to say the things the love letter nin did.

And that more than anything makes me think that it is for purposes of instigating a change in thinking for Sakura.

He has been building up her feelings for Naruto, and now he needs to resolve her feelings for Sasuke first before he can move any further.
QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Nov 4 2012, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what do you guys think the next NS moment will be in the manga?

Hard to say - either Sakura telling Naruto something on the battlefield about helping him no matter what once she and the others arrive that makes him think of Itachi's words to him about his parents, or Sakura healing him after the battle and any conversation they have during that.
QUOTE (redragon88 @ Nov 5 2012, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I stumbled upon something rather interesting. It seems that in the Special Promo DVD of Road to Ninja which contains an interview from Kishimoto, it mentions that the character he most likely resembles is Naruto or maybe Kiba.

But the interesting part is that he said that the female character he'd go out with is Hinata.

It was mentioned by a user named takl in NF. The reason I believe he's not lying is because a while ago he also informed us of another interview that Kishi had with japanese playboy in which he said he created Hinata for the sake of having a big breasted character.

What do you guys make of this new info? It's probably irrelevant, but might as well discuss it.

That's kind of strange, given that he said earlier that it would be too weird to choose a girl character to go out with before, but whatever floats him boat I guess.

Regardless, I don't think that it has much if anything to do with NaruHina's likelihood. If it did, I think we would have seen something romantic/non-platonic from Naruto's side by now. And the movie really had barely any interaction between Naruto and Hinata at all, not even any physical attraction from Naruto towards Hinata's new revealing outfit. Plus, in the cover for the movie one shot, Naruto couldn't look more uncomfortable - even though Hinata is literally grinding her oversized boob into his arm, he is sweating, grimacing, and holding up a hand in a "I don't want you near me" kind of gesture.
QUOTE (redragon88 @ Nov 5 2012, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On the same note according to that interview his answer was something along the lines of "it's a little creepy to think about dating one of the female characters I created, but if I was forced to then I guess it would be... Hinata, maybe".

The beginning of that sounds exactly like the same answer he gave way back when - in the same interview that he said that he would go out with Shikamaru if he had to choose a guy character to go out with.
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It could very well be that he just gave an answer for the sake of giving it. Maybe he only said Hinata because she has the biggest breast (if the playboy interview is anything to go by). Besides, it's been known that Kishi is very fond of Sakura as if she was a daughter to him, so it would've been even more creepy if he had said Sakura. laugh.gif

Lol agreed -- I think this would definitely be the reason why he didn't say Sakura. He is undoubtedly fond of her, if his defense of her in relation to the fans calling Hinata a better heroine is very telling.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 01:57 PM

QUOTE (Paptala @ Nov 5 2012, 10:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hadn't joined any forums at that point (or at least, wasn't active on any of them). I remember feeling a bit disappointed and annoyed, and thinking that NH might happen after all, but I wasn't completely sold that it would.

I was part of the forums for that, and if you want, here's a convenient link to the thread for that:

Spoilers: http://www.narusaku....i...t=0&start=0
Chapter Release: http://www.narusaku....?showtopic=8765

It was an awesome feeling, and definitely restored any confidence I had lost from the NaruHina confession wink.gif It was one of those great times to be a NaruSaku fan for sure!


I think that Kishi definitely the love letter nin scene there primarily to be a catalyst for Sakura rethinking her romantic feelings for Sasuke and eventually getting over them, and secondly to add tension and drama to the romance subplot.

PhenixElite makes an excellent point, imo, that if the scene was just to reinforce Sakura's love for Sasuke, then it would have made for sense for Sakura to be shown thinking of Sasuke when she first responded that she already has someone that she likes, rather than after the love letter nin talked about whoever she loves must be a great guy.

Also, just stop and think for a minute about how ludicrous of a scene it really is if its just to reinforce Sakura's feelings that were just confirmed last arc for Sasuke: Its right in the middle of the war, a tense moment with the spy at camp, and here's comes this random fodder nin, a grown man, with a love letter of all things. A grown male soldier giving a teenage girl a love letter in the middle of war. And all that just to tell us what we already knew from last arc and before? No - the love letter nin was necessary as a person who knew absolutely nothing about Sasuke and Sakura's feelings for and relationship with him in order to make a comment like he did. None of the other named characters could have been in a position to say the things the love letter nin did.

And that more than anything makes me think that it is for purposes of instigating a change in thinking for Sakura.

He has been building up her feelings for Naruto, and now he needs to resolve her feelings for Sasuke first before he can move any further.

Hard to say - either Sakura telling Naruto something on the battlefield about helping him no matter what once she and the others arrive that makes him think of Itachi's words to him about his parents, or Sakura healing him after the battle and any conversation they have during that.

That's kind of strange, given that he said earlier that it would be too weird to choose a girl character to go out with before, but whatever floats him boat I guess.

Regardless, I don't think that it has much if anything to do with NaruHina's likelihood. If it did, I think we would have seen something romantic/non-platonic from Naruto's side by now. And the movie really had barely any interaction between Naruto and Hinata at all, not even any physical attraction from Naruto towards Hinata's new revealing outfit. Plus, in the cover for the movie one shot, Naruto couldn't look more uncomfortable - even though Hinata is literally grinding her oversized boob into his arm, he is sweating, grimacing, and holding up a hand in a "I don't want you near me" kind of gesture.

The beginning of that sounds exactly like the same answer he gave way back when - in the same interview that he said that he would go out with Shikamaru if he had to choose a guy character to go out with.

Lol agreed -- I think this would definitely be the reason why he didn't say Sakura. He is undoubtedly fond of her, if his defense of her in relation to the fans calling Hinata a better heroine is very telling.

Yeah couldnt agree more great post!

Also, if i was kishi and they would ask me the same $hit in every interview again i would also say anything to troll that guys.
Seriously why do they always have to ask so stupid questions?

I would be so pissed off if they were trying to trap me in every interview just to get some information about their favourite pairing. I think thats the main point why you cant take those interviews serious.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 03:13 PM

well excuse me but whats the topic really?

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 03:22 PM

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Nov 6 2012, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well excuse me but whats the topic really?

The lover nin scene and kishis dvd interview.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 04:58 PM

Just went on Road to Ninja Facebook page and naruhina fans commented on the Bridal style pic and most of them were positive. haha


 


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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:06 PM

QUOTE (Baka chan @ Nov 6 2012, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just went on Road to Ninja Facebook page and naruhina fans commented on the Bridal style pic and most of them were positive. haha

Yeah, I heard. Someone in NF mentioned that she couldn't escape the inevitable bridal scene from RtN and loves the fact it's being watched by many people. It goes to show you how much that picture worth. Man, Taiwan website sure loves to play games. tongue.gif

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:16 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Nov 6 2012, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I heard. Someone in NF mentioned that she couldn't escape the inevitable bridal scene from RtN and loves the fact it's being watched by many people. It goes to show you how much that picture worth. Man, Taiwan website sure loves to play games. tongue.gif

Honestly I'm somewhat glad Sakura didn't blush in that pic because you see more in this pic now than if she would've blushed. I like it like this even though I wouldn't mind a blush either.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:20 PM

QUOTE (Baka chan @ Nov 6 2012, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly I'm somewhat glad Sakura didn't blush in that pic because you see more in this pic now than if she would've blushed. I like it like this even though I wouldn't mind a blush either.


Yeah you don't need a blush its a lot better the way it is. The way their looking into each other eyes and there so close xD its romantic imo.

Edited by Living Lavish, 06 November 2012 - 05:21 PM.


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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:37 PM

QUOTE (Living Lavish @ Nov 6 2012, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah you don't need a blush its a lot better the way it is. The way their looking into each other eyes and there so close xD its romantic imo.

It's funny, long ago, I thought the bridal scene would be like similar to the one from the manga. That or my image was that Sakura would be the only one looking at him as Naruto looks at his enemy. Also, her head will be like leaning downward. Then, when this image pops out, boy, was I wrong. It's no wonder a lot of people comment this scene so often. It really gives you a whole impression of NS if you're not into it. Kudos to Kishi.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:53 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Nov 6 2012, 05:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's funny, long ago, I thought the bridal scene would be like similar to the one from the manga. That or my image was that Sakura would be the only one looking at him as Naruto looks at his enemy. Also, her head will be like leaning downward. Then, when this image pops out, boy, was I wrong. It's no wonder a lot of people comment this scene so often. It really gives you a whole impression of NS if you're not into it. Kudos to Kishi.


Haha me to.

Thanks to Kishi he really shut a lot of doubters up with this movie and showed us NaruSaku is important to him. the pairing he prefers. happy.gif

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Just saw this on deviantart; a screencap of the bridal-style scene from RTN. I fangirled SO HARD when I saw it.

so anyways....

what do you guys think the next NS moment will be in the manga?

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:58 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Nov 6 2012, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's funny, long ago, I thought the bridal scene would be like similar to the one from the manga. That or my image was that Sakura would be the only one looking at him as Naruto looks at his enemy. Also, her head will be like leaning downward. Then, when this image pops out, boy, was I wrong. It's no wonder a lot of people comment this scene so often. It really gives you a whole impression of NS if you're not into it. Kudos to Kishi.

Haha i think noone ever thought this scene would be that intense, but now here we go. biggrin.gif tongue.gif

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 06:04 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Nov 5 2012, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I stumbled upon something rather interesting. It seems that in the Special Promo DVD of Road to Ninja which contains an interview from Kishimoto, it mentions that the character he most likely resembles is Naruto or maybe Kiba.

But the interesting part is that he said that the female character he'd go out with is Hinata.

It was mentioned by a user named takl in NF. The reason I believe he's not lying is because a while ago he also informed us of another interview that Kishi had with japanese playboy in which he said he created Hinata for the sake of having a big breasted character.

What do you guys make of this new info? It's probably irrelevant, but might as well discuss it.

Oh please i wouldn't believe everything you see especially with those biased naruhina fans, a word of advice, read the manga and follow those facts, end of story a_thumbs.gif

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 06:05 PM

hi guys. it seems that you are enjoying your time.

just a suggestion, you should have remove the rule that valid evidence are the manga, databooks, and kishi's interview.

and as a reminder, sakura had lost her faith in sasuke once (when karui and omoi told her that sasuke was with akatsuki and kidnapped bee). and then restored her faith (at their encounter in the bridge). and now you are telling that the tent scene with the nin-guy was the starting point for sakura to resolve her feeling for him? what?? are you telling that she will lose her faith in sasuke again? can you tell me how inconsistent sakura is?

don't try this at home

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 06:14 PM

QUOTE (Canadian_DJ @ Nov 6 2012, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh please i wouldn't believe everything you see especially with those biased naruhina fans, a word of advice, read the manga and follow those facts, end of story a_thumbs.gif

I totally Agree and from experience with some naruhina fans they can change up factual info to suit their pairing.


 


#5339 Tendo Ryuken

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 06:17 PM

QUOTE (Baka chan @ Nov 7 2012, 01:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I totally Agree and from experience with some naruhina fans they can change up factual info to suit their pairing.


you should follow canadian_dj's advice. but you shouldnt say the bolded one

don't try this at home

#5340 redragon88

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 06:36 PM

QUOTE (Canadian_DJ @ Nov 6 2012, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh please i wouldn't believe everything you see especially with those biased naruhina fans, a word of advice, read the manga and follow those facts, end of story a_thumbs.gif

Some fans might be biased, but that doesn't mean everyone of them are. You shouldn't generalize like that.

From what I recall takl is a very decent fan. He provided a lot of info in anticipation of the Road to Ninja movie and always answered the questions that many people brought up. He has also said many times that the only thing he wants if for Naruto to be with someone who makes him happy, he doesn't seem to care about paring wars at all.

I can't allow you to discredit takl so easily, especially when he has done nothing to deserve it. On the contrary he's always helpful when asked. I know some fans can irritate you, but please try not to put people in that same category just because they have different opinions.

On last thing, I do read the manga and follow the facts. I know very well how their relationship has developed and how it correlates to the themes that Kishi wants to communicate in the manga. I specifically said that I just brought this up to have something to talk about. So no, not end of story.




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