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[Sukie-Chan]

I don't think SasuSaku could be a canon. I mean Sakura has been hurt too much. A person can only take so much. I'm sure she would always have those pain memories of Sasuke, even if shes in a relationship with Sasuke.

[ramenanmitsu]

Which marks this question, if by any chance, sasusaku is canon, would Sakura be happy about it? I mean her 12-year-old self would, by at 16 and seeing a lot of things take their place, she has to, at this point, see things differently. I mean, does she still envision a happy team 7 ending? Yes. Does she envision her being in a relationship and have a family with Sasuke? There's a high percent chance that its not the case.

I don't think she will be happy whether she loves him or not. At this point, I think Sakura feels guilty for taking Naruto's feelings for granted. Even if Sasuke is redeemed, team seven is together, and Sakura still loves Sasuke, I doubt she will accept him romantically. I think Naruto is too important for her to ignore his feelings completely(My opinion is, Sakura is still in love with Sasuke, but thinks Naruto is more important). At the end, Sakura will feel guilty she won't be able to enjoy a romantic relationship with Sasuke even IF she is in love with him. (That is just how much Naruto is important for her.)

Edited by narunarunaru, 05 September 2011 - 12:46 PM.

[tricksie]

I don't think she will be happy whether she loves him or not. At this point, I think Sakura feels guilty for taking Naruto's feelings for granted. Even if Sasuke is redeemed, team seven is together, and Sakura still loves Sasuke, I doubt she will accept him romantically. I think Naruto is too important for her to ignore his feelings completely(My opinion is, Sakura is still in love with Sasuke, but thinks Naruto is more important). At the end, Sakura will feel guilty she won't be able to enjoy a romantic relationship with Sasuke even IF she is in love with him. (That is just how much Naruto is important for her.)

What a great point! It really speaks to Sakura's development as a character. Right now, knowing Naruto's feelings for her and how much closer she is to him than Sasuke, if Team 7 were ever reunited and if Sakura still had some shred of feelings for Sasuke (which I'm sure she doesn't, but for the sake of argument....), she would never want to hurt Naruto's feelings by pursuing Sasuke again. I think she would just let it go.

The thing about the Naruto that the SS/NH shippers ignore is his personality. Naruto wouldn't just sit back and be happy for his true love that she's finally won Sasuke's affection. He's not Hinata. Naruto doesn't give up. He would never be out of the game. He's jealous and scrappy, willing to fight until he wins. Even when pursuing Sasuke for Sakura and for himself, he never gave up his dream of winning over Sakura. He just did what would make her happy, understanding her pain and wanting to relieve her of it. But he never stepped out of the race for her affections. Like Hinata did.

In fact, if Sasuke came back and Sakura still had some shred of caring for him, I think Naruto would see it as another great challenge: both he and Sasuke are on equal footing, they are both back in the village as Konoha nins, and now Naruto doesn't have to feel guilty about openly pursuing Sakura and being Sasuke's rival. He likes that equal-footing thing and a good challenge. Remember him finding out about Gaara? He was happy and determined to one-up him. I don't think he'd ever give up hope of winning Sakura — giving up is not in his nature.

Lastly, if Hinata were more like Naruto, as she always says she tries to be, she wouldn't have given up to Sakura so easily after the Pain arc. NH shippers would disagree, saying she's never stopped. But, to me (and probably all of us NSers), her placid smile was her stepping back from her pursuit of Naruto in a romantic way.

So it's ironic that for NH to occur, so much of it relies on Naruto acting like Hinata...instead of acting like Naruto.

[Anguyen92]

He wasn't jealous or anything during part one. He just did what he thinks would make Sakura happy. And if that means, sasusaku, then honestly he probably would give his shot up to make her happy. That shows how much he really cares about her. There's not a lot of people who would do that.

But, at this point, he must know that his relationship with Sakura has to be bigger than what he perceives it to be. That's its more than a platonic friendship with some subtle flirty hints to it. That, what he could dream of could be a reality. But, both sides have to take that leap of fate or, else, everyone loses.

Edited by Anguyen92, 05 September 2011 - 04:18 PM.

[Phantom_999]

Honestly, I am getting a little testy here with the lack of narusaku moments here. I know there's a war and all, but how Kishi could not just clear all the loose ends off and just get the pairings wars out of the way before the war began?

Btw, I'm one away from 500, how should I use it?

Me too Anguyen, me too.

You have to remember that this Manga is for action and adventure. Romance is only a side thing, and just be patient NS moments are sure to come I just know it.

Exactly. Honestly I don't think Kishi is focusing on the romance part too much. Right now the priority is how to solve this Madara and Sasuke problem. Pairings are second priority but rest assured, I don't think its neglected.

Indeed but it couldn't hurt to see some more right? more than we're getting right now I mean

Oh man, this. To be honest, this seems exactly like something Kishi would do. Not only would it give a reason for Kishi to introduce that lover-nin in the first place, but it would fit his style somewhat, being subtle yet cyclical (with Sakura's smile). I mean, as much I'd love another love confession, I don't think that sort of thing is Kishi's strongsuit. It just feels awkward to me when he tries to make romance the center-point of the plot amidst heavy action. Though maybe he'll suddenly get better at it, and have Naruto finally confess his feelings right before the Sasuke fight.

Also, if that confession does happen, I wonder how it'll go. I hope it's pretty original, it'd feel random if Naruto suddenly became a romantic. I'm thinking something like:

Naruto: Heh heh, Sakura-chan, the way I feel about you...well...I imagine it's the same way that ramen noodles feel about the broth...or something like that...
Sakura: What the hell are you talking about?
Naruto: Well, what I'm trying to say is...*gulp*...
(looks her straight in the eyes)
Naruto: I love you more than ramen, Sakura-chan!
Sakura: *gasp*

Though I suppose I wouldn't mind a cliche confession either, if Kishi can pull it off alright.

Rave (Master) - Haru/Reina --Click here to view--

Bleach - Keigo/Lisa --Click here to view--

Hee hee, they might be crackships, but I think I just found a terrible yet hilarious reason to ship characters together. Ah, the possibilities...

SO uh, You want to give Kishi those lines Boom? They SOUND GOOD and are definitely in character

[pharix]

I hope it's not something that corny ._.

[Super Boom]

The thing about the Naruto that the SS/NH shippers ignore is his personality. Naruto wouldn't just sit back and be happy for his true love that she's finally won Sasuke's affection. He's not Hinata. Naruto doesn't give up. He would never be out of the game. He's jealous and scrappy, willing to fight until he wins. Even when pursuing Sasuke for Sakura and for himself, he never gave up his dream of winning over Sakura. He just did what would make her happy, understanding her pain and wanting to relieve her of it. But he never stepped out of the race for her affections. Like Hinata did.

I agree that Naruto's persistent personality plays a role in him achieving all of his goals, and giving up on Sakura seems pretty out of character for him, but the overall vibe I've gotten is that he'd very easily step aside for Sasuke and Sakura to be together. When it comes to becoming Hokage and saving Sasuke, Naruto always seems so determined and competitive, but when it comes to his feelings for Sakura, he seems sort of neutral to me. The last time he displayed having feelings for her (other than his blush at her confession) was Sai's flashback, and his response seemed almost the opposite of his normal enthusiastic self. He acted like he didn't deserve her, voicing that he couldn't keep 'a promise'.
On top of that, he goes so far as to ignore any possibility that she could have developed feelings for him, thinking that her feelings for Sasuke are as unwavering as his feelings for her (this parallel was drawn when he made the POAL, so I think he still had that thought in his head when she confessed to him). In my opinion, one of the problems with N/S right now is, unless Naruto can finally understand that Sakura loves him, his only romantic ambition is to keep Sakura happy, and I feel like Naruto himself would ship S/S to make that happen.

I guess that's one of the reasons this pairing has grown on me so much. He loves Sakura, but he doesn't seem to see his love for her as an all-encompassing ambition, like becoming Hokage and saving Sasuke. She's not just a notch on his list of dreams, his love for her is one of the most selfless things about his character.

Hopefully that makes sense, and it's not just me having read too many angsty fics.

Lastly, if Hinata were more like Naruto, as she always says she tries to be, she wouldn't have given up to Sakura so easily after the Pain arc. NH shippers would disagree, saying she's never stopped. But, to me (and probably all of us NSers), her placid smile was her stepping back from her pursuit of Naruto in a romantic way.

So it's ironic that for NH to occur, so much of it relies on Naruto acting like Hinata...instead of acting like Naruto.

That's a very interesting thought. Naruto's no pushover, and I don't think he'd ever give up on his feelings. Hinata can be determined when she needs to be (like pretty much every character inspired by Naruto I suppose), but Hinata is no where near as stubborn as Naruto is.

I also like noting how Kishi chose to draw certain character reactions to the idea of opposing pairings. When Naruto saw Sakura embrace Sasuke in the hospital, and seeing her cry before he made the POAL, his reaction was hardly a positive one. The same goes for when Sakura realized Hinata was in love with Naruto. She wasn't happy that someone was in love with her 'brother', rather, she seemed visibly upset by it. However, when Hinata saw Sakura hugging Naruto in chapter 450, she seemed happy to see the two of them together (and I do believe that was the point of her smile, since her reaction to Naruto's return was shown on the previous page, and Kishi made a point of drawing an "..." reaction bubble to seeing them together.

I hope it's not something that corny ._.

Ha ha, yeah, it was pretty lame.

....

*runs away crying*

Edited by Boom...Winning, 05 September 2011 - 10:08 PM.

[Phantom_999]

I LIKED IT, I LIKED IT BOOM!!! * patting your back*

[Anguyen92]

I agree that Naruto's persistent personality plays a role in him achieving all of his goals, and giving up on Sakura seems pretty out of character for him, but the overall vibe I've gotten is that he'd very easily step aside for Sasuke and Sakura to be together. When it comes to becoming Hokage and saving Sasuke, Naruto always seems so determined and competitive, but when it comes to his feelings for Sakura, he seems sort of neutral to me. The last time he displayed having feelings for her (other than his blush at her confession) was Sai's flashback, and his response seemed almost the opposite of his normal enthusiastic self. He acted like he didn't deserve her, voicing that he couldn't keep 'a promise'.
On top of that, he goes so far as to ignore any possibility that she could have developed feelings for him, thinking that her feelings for Sasuke are as unwavering as his feelings for her (this parallel was drawn when he made the POAL, so I think he still had that thought in his head when she confessed to him). In my opinion, one of the problems with N/S right now is, unless Naruto can finally understand that Sakura loves him, his only romantic ambition is to keep Sakura happy, and I feel like Naruto himself would ship S/S to make that happen.

I guess that's one of the reasons this pairing has grown on me so much. He loves Sakura, but he doesn't seem to see his love for her as an all-encompassing ambition, like becoming Hokage and saving Sasuke. She's not just a notch on his list of dreams, his love for her is one of the most selfless things about his character.

Hopefully that makes sense, and it's not just me having read too many angsty fics.

It does make sense actually. I mean Naruto is willing to risk his happiness in order to make sure that Sakura would always be happy. As a result, I think that Sakura has to really figure that out in order to reassure him that, yes, yes, yes being with Naruto actually makes her happy, if she's willing. Then, they can really move on and just let everything else play out. At this point, thankfully, they are still good friends and all, but I don't think that Naruto thinks that he's got a good shot of being with Sakura sometimes, like during what Boom said about the flashback when talking to Sai about Sakura.

Hope I make sense there.

Man, how long do you guys think that something like that would happen?

Edited by Anguyen92, 05 September 2011 - 10:37 PM.

[Darth Krypt]

I agree that Naruto's persistent personality plays a role in him achieving all of his goals, and giving up on Sakura seems pretty out of character for him, but the overall vibe I've gotten is that he'd very easily step aside for Sasuke and Sakura to be together. When it comes to becoming Hokage and saving Sasuke, Naruto always seems so determined and competitive, but when it comes to his feelings for Sakura, he seems sort of neutral to me.

Yeah. He definitely loves Sakura alot but he thinks he doesn't deserve her. He's thinking for her sake and not selfishly trying to chase after her. To me that kind of love and thoughtfulness is much stronger and better than being determined to be Hokage and saving Sasuke. It shows that he is not selfish and would see that Sakura would always be happy even if it doesn't involve him. And that is definitely why he deserves to be with her.

Edited by Darth Krypt, 05 September 2011 - 11:05 PM.

[Anguyen92]

^^ Oh, sweet irony, he loves her and does not think that he deserves to be with her, though that kind of act does warrent him the right to be with her, etc, etc. Boy, with that kind of mentality, how on Earth will they actually be canon? I mean, I know, that they are going to be canon, but we still have to sort out the bits on how that can happen. Any clear ideas?

[CaramelMiki]

^^ Oh, sweet irony, he loves her and does not think that he deserves to be with her, though that kind of act does warrent him the right to be with her, etc, etc. Boy, with that kind of mentality, how on Earth will they actually be canon? I mean, I know, that they are going to be canon, but we still have to sort out the bits on how that can happen. Any clear ideas?

That's what I was thinking. It would be really hard for him to understand why. He has to get over the "Sakura loving Sasuke" idea. But I have no idea how that would happen.

Maybe if Naruto was badly hurt in the war and Sakura heals him (and she was crying so much or something, like in the OVA and she tries her best to heal him) that's when he sees she truly cares deeply for him. My idea is something like that haha

[RedDelicious]

He has to get over the "Sakura loving Sasuke" idea. But I have no idea how that would happen.

There is a good chance this has already happened. Don't forget in chapter 474, he had his outdated image of Team 7 shattered, followed by him realizing the way things are now, causing him to faint. Naruto hasn't talked to Sakura personally since those chapters, but the pieces are in place, if Kishimoto wants to drive the story in that direction.

Edited by RedDelicious, 06 September 2011 - 02:20 AM.

[Anguyen92]

^^ Well, if that's the case, then all we have to do is just wait right? And, everything in their relationship will fall right into the right pieces, thanks for that evidence man. Well, glad that's partically cleared up.

Edited by Anguyen92, 06 September 2011 - 03:51 AM.

[RedDelicious]

Well, if that's the case, then all we have to do is just wait right?

Well, I hope so. An argument could be made that pieces were in place for NH to get a push (after the confession/suicide with Pein)... except nothing became of it. With the war going on, it is possible that we could get nothing for a very long time. I was just trying to point out that many of the obstacles to NS could be overcome quickly/easily, based on how things have been set up. But it is up to the author to decide to pull the trigger (make the jutsu hand-seal?).

[Super Boom]

I LIKED IT, I LIKED IT BOOM!!! * patting your back*

LOL, thanks, I was just kidding though. If there is a confession scenario, I hope it's original. The confession (if you'd call it that) on FMA was one of my favorite romantic confession scenes, so I hope it'd be similar here, with Naruto making an original confession that would be unique to the characters involved. But I guess there's more to Naruto than ramen, LOL.

There is a good chance this has already happened. Don't forget in chapter 474, he had his outdated image of Team 7 shattered, followed by him realizing the way things are now, causing him to faint. Naruto hasn't talked to Sakura personally since those chapters, but the pieces are in place, if Kishimoto wants to drive the story in that direction.

That's a pretty good point. I guess I've heard that scene mentioned before, but I never really looked at it in terms of Sakura's feelings for Naruto, more just that Team 7 would never be the same. But you're right, Kishi could easily drive the story in that direction if he so chose. Naruto and Sakura have only talked once since the Iron Country fight, and that conversation felt a little rushed to me. Hopefully they make some headway when they finally see each other in the manga.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 07 September 2011 - 02:03 AM.

[Phantom_999]

Yeah something that shows his love but not a romantic cliche Like when Ed proposed

Edited by Phantom_999, 07 September 2011 - 10:39 PM.

[CloudMountainJuror]

That's what I was thinking. It would be really hard for him to understand why. He has to get over the "Sakura loving Sasuke" idea. But I have no idea how that would happen.

Maybe if Naruto was badly hurt in the war and Sakura heals him (and she was crying so much or something, like in the OVA and she tries her best to heal him) that's when he sees she truly cares deeply for him. My idea is something like that haha

I vote for this scenario:
Sakura saving Naruto somehow, getting injured.