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Posted 08 August 2013 - 07:14 AM

Apparently Sai assumed Naruto loves Sakura, but what Narutopedia forget to write is that he confirmed this seconds later.

And that Sakura hit Naruto for lying about being in a relationship. :confused:

 

Don't even bother with that website when it comes to shipping, the Narutocouple wikia is dedicated to that and very objective.

Minato is like Hinata because they're both calm. But..but just because she isn't a hotheaded wildchild like Naruto is/was doesn't mean she's calm. :pinch:

 

Kushina is also like Hinata because they both love Naruto equally. But..pretty that argument doesn't work because NS fans believe Sakura loves Naruto too. :)

 

I don't know how common these beliefs are, but I've heard it several times.

 

I seem to fail to remember ,but didn't Naruto say something in the matter '' I cant confess till Sasuke/Team 7 aka the plot is reunited ?'' / Because i cant keep my promises i cant confess '' .  How are some people forgetting this and saying ''its outdated'' he has moved on .. He will not move on until he has confessed , how is that not clear to some folk i just don't know .. :glare:

 

I dont bother with it , but i see it overall on the sites and it just bugs me . :confused:  Its not about shipping , its about writing the truth down manga wise and not to make stuff up or ignore/deny facts.. If a casual reader or even a Anime fan reads this it won't just mislead him , but it will twist his POV ..

 

They are just believes nothing more the only similarity Hinata shares with Kushina is having a long hair , so? We've got the parallel Sakura=Kusina , what does that tell them? Yep, it doesn't matter..

 

Hinata has nothing in common with Minato .. shy/insecure =/= calm and quiet . I don't know how it seems believable i guess they are both quiet , but then again Minato stood up when he saw Kushina and declared that he wants to become hokage , so he isn't so quiet after all ^^. I think he was scared of Kushina a little bit , cuz apparently she could beat him half to death :sweat:  ..

 

I dont see how they match Hinata in those traits but that's IMO. We don't just believe Sakura loves him , we know it :wink: :P :D .

 

About 631;

The joke was from the author himself, not from the characters. Father and son have the same taste in women apparently. :P

 

From the characters, it was only comic relief. There is a difference between that and a joke.

 

The comic relief was that Sakura hit him for wasting his energy talking.

 

What should be taking seriously is Naruto's feelings - which no one should joke about, and that is also why NS fans treasure this moment. His feelings have never been questioned unlike Sakura's, in fact his feelings have been solid all the time and never moved an inch.

 

I second this.

 

While the question was pointed to Sakura , Naruto took the word and answered thus revealing to us(the readers) that his feelings are unwavering ..

 

Typical tsundere moment ^^, comical yes , but absolutely not poking jokes at Sakura's feelings/confession (which some people are referring ) . It shows us that both blondes have similar taste in women , nothing more.

Yep, his feelings from chapter 3 - 64- haven't moved an iota .


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 07:26 AM

wHAT ABOUT CHAPTER 635 , AND HOW PEOPLE ARE SAYING SHE TRUSTS SASUKE AND WANTS HIM BACK .? I THINK SHE DOESN'T TRUST HIM AT ALL AND WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH SASUKE . 

 

She doesn't trust him one bit , the question from Sai was ,how does she feel about him? She responded with '' I trust him , I'm happy he's back and force/faked that smile , because the situation at hand is complicated:

 

A- Madara

B-Juubito

C- Naruto considers Sasuke as family and his bro

 

She knows how much Sasuke means to Naruto , I guess she is trying to protect him at least until he decides to do something  foolish like attacking Naruto , and i believe he would in the following chapters as i stated in earlier posts , he will get jealous of Naruto at least that is what i believe..

 

SS was never alive to me as much as NH , Sasuke is indifferent and apologized to Karin, Naruto is oblivious and loves Sakura , Sakura (has) had feelings yes , but her feelings for him were questioned 3 times ..

 

The first she didn't know what to say what Sasuke is to her.

 

The second her questionable love for him 540 and the love letter nin.

 

The third ,Sai's question.

 

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 07:31 AM

Yeah. The buildup for not giving Sasuke a chance is still going and there's too many of them. There were some ways to make it a redeem factors, but it has more towards to "Not trustworthy," especially since Shikamaru got the idea but not letting it spread. Again, Sasuke is not looking for redemption. All I can hope is to end it once and for all. No reason to negate only to go back.

 

Actually, at some case, you can argue that Sasuke's return isn't really all that great to begin with for Sakura and most likely everyone from Konoha. It feels like "Well, he's back to do something good. What's wrong? Why not happy?" It's like if you're stuck in an island with a girl, who later becomes your lover, then your friends find you and want to rescue you guys, but you start to feel like, "I want to stay here with her. We can live together." Selfish but that's just mentality. Anyway, don't take it this way in case of karma effect, but I wouldn't blame you if you feel this way. I do at times. It feels like only Naruto is the only one that's happy and everyone else pretty much say, "The damage is done."

Imo Sasuke's death is inevitable . He is the only character that has changed for the worst . He cheated death too many times already , he was supposed to die in the Forest of Death and Gaara was supposed to kill him too in my opionion . Naruto was supposed to kill him with his Rasengan on the hospital roof . I mean and look at who Sakura has been with all the time , she called Naruto's name constantly throughout every batlle between Naruto and Sasuke . sasuke just wants all the tailed beast and to gain power it doesn't benefit the village at all . 

 

Sasuke's return wasn't great at all . sakura isn't all over him , she is actually showing that she wants nothing to do with him .  I am hearing this statement on Tumblr , " She is happy that Sasuke come back because she thinks he is a better man " . Lols can you say trolling at its finest .? Naruto doesn't even trust Sasuke , Naruto might be expecting an attack also ,Sakura is definetly expecting an attack , because ask hinata to use her byakugan to check on the two . 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 07:38 AM

 

She doesn't trust him one bit , the question from Sai was ,how does she feel about him? She responded with '' I trust him , I'm happy he's back and force/faked that smile , because the situation at hand is complicated:

 

A- Madara

B-Juubito

C- Naruto considers Sasuke as family and his bro

 

She knows how much Sasuke means to Naruto , I guess she is trying to protect him at least until he decides to do something  foolish like attacking Naruto , and i believe he would in the following chapters as i stated in earlier posts , he will get jealous of Naruto at least that is what i believe..

 

SS was never alive to me as much as NH , Sasuke is indifferent and apologized to Karin, Naruto is oblivious and loves Sakura , Sakura (has) had feelings yes , but her feelings for him were questioned 3 times ..

 

The first she didn't know what to say what Sasuke is to her.

 

The second her questionable love for him 540 and the love letter nin.

 

The third ,Sai's question.

This post is ditto for me . I mean she has Hinata checking on them lols . She already know Sasuke isn't there for anything good , but she can't say that out loud because then Sasuke would know she is on too him . Yes I believe he will get jealous of Naruto once again because of all his hidden power including the Raikude and I forgot what the one was called . He will try to attack Naruto once this war is all over . Sakura with out a doubt will protect naruto and tell Naruto she is in love with him . 

 

People feel like Kishi don't know what he is doing , but kishi is a superb writer . I mean he does everything for a reason , its funny how she started thinking negative about Sasuke afte the fact that she confessed to Naruto , i think the confession is what made her start to realize her feelings , and how they differ between naruto ( the man she loves) and Sasuke ( the man she probably feels nothing for at all ) . 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 07:46 AM

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 10:50 AM

I do remember the NH fans asking us how sakura =kushina.

 

I just saw this pic and i Lol'ed so hard :chuckle: :lmao:

 

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Seriously though, i am suprised they are still going at all and haven't given up... The same could be said for NS after 615 but... SS moment to come? (sakura -> Sasuke more like)


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 11:04 AM

I do remember the NH fans asking us how sakura =kushina.

 

I just saw this pic and i Lol'ed so hard :chuckle: :lmao:

 

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Seriously though, i am suprised they are still going at all and haven't given up... The same could be said for NS after 615 but... SS moment to come? (sakura -> Sasuke more like)

SS is pretty much done with , 635 confirms it for me . 

 

NH was dying back in chapter 615 , and 631 put it in its coffin and put it six feet under . 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 12:23 PM

Honestly I felt SS has been done for a long time, preferably back when he tried to kill her and then the follow up of her thinking negative of her "love" for him when the lover nin talked to her.

 

Also 631 to me killed NH. Naruto still loves Sakura after all these chapters and even Hinata's pretty much biggest moment (615) and he still hasn't shown a single sign of having feelings for her. I just don't see how Naruto's feelings for Sakura could ever change at this point.

 

So to me NS is pretty much just awaiting it's moment of becoming canon, it's path there is already cleared and I am just waiting for the moment to happen.



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 12:33 PM

SS is pretty much done with , 635 confirms it for me . 

 

NH was dying back in chapter 615 , and 631 put it in its coffin and put it six feet under . 

Nh was dying back on 615?

Do a jump on the 615 threads to see the ammount of desperation, i even took some pics from some comments like people saying that NH was canon, i think even myself posted that.

I thought it was because i thought Kishimoto started writing bs, like Killing Neji to make Naruto waver and them make Hinata goes OOC and make a speech.

NH died when Sakura started healing Naruto, Minato confirmed MK parallel, Sakura didnt rejecting Naruto like she did on part 1 when he did some stuff similar when he called her his gf to Konohamaru, Sakura not showing any signs of infatuation or love towards Sasuke, and it died when Hinata give that self-friendzone quote.


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 12:37 PM

Honestly I felt SS has been done for a long time, preferably back when he tried to kill her and then the follow up of her thinking negative of her "love" for him when the lover nin talked to her.

 

Also 631 to me killed NH. Naruto still loves Sakura after all these chapters and even Hinata's pretty much biggest moment (615) and he still hasn't shown a single sign of having feelings for her. I just don't see how Naruto's feelings for Sakura could ever change at this point.

 

So to me NS is pretty much just awaiting it's moment of becoming canon, it's path there is already cleared and I am just waiting for the moment to happen.

yeah I agree with all of this , I mean its pretty obvious that Sakura is realizing that she doens't love Sasuke , and it took chapter 540 for her to realize it and 635 made her confirm it . 

 

Naruto's feelings never wavered at all , thats what makes NS so strong its the fact that naruto is dedicated to Sakura no matter what , he never once thought twice , its like a " as logn as I love you thats I need mindset that Naruto kind of has . If SS happens or NH , Naruto's whole nindo , Dattebayo talk and Never give up will all go down the drain . But Kishi is a great writer so I'm confident he will make Sakura recognize her feelings for Naruto , and hopefully he doesn't make Sasuke be redeemed either . 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 12:46 PM

Nh was dying back on 615?

Do a jump on the 615 threads to see the ammount of desperation, i even took some pics from some comments like people saying that NH was canon, i think even myself posted that.

I thought it was because i thought Kishimoto started writing bs, like Killing Neji to make Naruto waver and them make Hinata goes OOC and make a speech.

NH died when Sakura started healing Naruto, Minato confirmed MK parallel, Sakura didnt rejecting Naruto like she did on part 1 when he did some stuff similar when he called her his gf to Konohamaru, Sakura not showing any signs of infatuation or love towards Sasuke, and it died when Hinata give that self-friendzone quote.

I mean those 615 threads is trolling at its finest , I honestly don't know how they still be onboard for that ship when they see thats its clearly sunk to the deep depths of the ocean a while ago . I noticed something I think it was in chapter 634 or 633 , that Hinata doesn't even seem to be that infatuated with Naruto anymore , she is just leaving him be , no blushing no nothing . 

 

What I try to explain to people is that just because Hinata said , " I will be holding his hand " had nothing to do with her being a in  a relationship with Naruto . She held his hand already and she got her wished she held Naruto's hand and she walked out on the battlefield , with Naruto being totally oblivious to Hinata's advances lols , because he is in love with Sakura Haruno and Naruto's NEVER wavers . I hear people saying if the end pairing is NH and SS everybody will have closure , but how .? 

 

How would Hinata feel if she knew she was Naruto's second choice .? She wouldn't be happy . 

 

Naruto will always love Sakura , therefore he won't even go with Hinata in the second place . He would rathwer be since liek Jairaya . 

 

Sasuke has no desire to be in a relationship , he wouldn't be happy with a relationship not to mention I can see him having a short fuse and beaiting Sakura's a** everyday . Sakura wouldn't be happy with the one sided love at all . 

 

However m I noticed with NaruSaku , Naruto loves Sakura and Sakura was always willing to love Naruto back . I believe she is in love with Naruto right now as we speak , her doubting her feelings for Sasuke not once but 3 times  after her confession to Naruto only confirms this for me . 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 01:17 PM

I mean those 615 threads is trolling at its finest , I honestly don't know how they still be onboard for that ship when they see thats its clearly sunk to the deep depths of the ocean a while ago . I noticed something I think it was in chapter 634 or 633 , that Hinata doesn't even seem to be that infatuated with Naruto anymore , she is just leaving him be , no blushing no nothing . 

 

What I try to explain to people is that just because Hinata said , " I will be holding his hand " had nothing to do with her being a in  a relationship with Naruto . She held his hand already and she got her wished she held Naruto's hand and she walked out on the battlefield , with Naruto being totally oblivious to Hinata's advances lols , because he is in love with Sakura Haruno and Naruto's NEVER wavers . I hear people saying if the end pairing is NH and SS everybody will have closure , but how .? 

 

How would Hinata feel if she knew she was Naruto's second choice .? She wouldn't be happy . 

 

Naruto will always love Sakura , therefore he won't even go with Hinata in the second place . He would rathwer be since liek Jairaya . 

 

Sasuke has no desire to be in a relationship , he wouldn't be happy with a relationship not to mention I can see him having a short fuse and beaiting Sakura's a** everyday . Sakura wouldn't be happy with the one sided love at all . 

 

However m I noticed with NaruSaku , Naruto loves Sakura and Sakura was always willing to love Naruto back . I believe she is in love with Naruto right now as we speak , her doubting her feelings for Sasuke not once but 3 times  after her confession to Naruto only confirms this for me . 

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 01:33 PM

Nh was dying back on 615?

Do a jump on the 615 threads to see the ammount of desperation, i even took some pics from some comments like people saying that NH was canon, i think even myself posted that.

I thought it was because i thought Kishimoto started writing bs, like Killing Neji to make Naruto waver and them make Hinata goes OOC and make a speech.

NH died when Sakura started healing Naruto, Minato confirmed MK parallel, Sakura didnt rejecting Naruto like she did on part 1 when he did some stuff similar when he called her his gf to Konohamaru, Sakura not showing any signs of infatuation or love towards Sasuke, and it died when Hinata give that self-friendzone quote.

 

I agree , since Kishi drew a panel with Sakura healing Naruto the deal was sealed ^^.

 

May i have a link to those threads, thank you in advance.


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 01:38 PM

 

I agree , since Kishi drew a panel with Sakura healing Naruto the deal was sealed ^^.

 

May i have a link to those threads, thank you in advance.

That was in Naruto Chapter 631 . 

 

"Naruto's hand is so big and strong."

lols , that was funny , I can't believe that statement was considered to be of significance , I'm talking about recently ever since naruto claimed Sakura was his girlfriend , its like she calmed down a little bit . 


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    I apply my heart to no wisdom, and to know madness and folly. I perceived that this also was a chasing of the wind. For in much wisdom is much grief; and he who increased knowledge, increased sorrow.

    Nobis non domine non nobis.

    Laa shay'a waqui'n moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine.

    Nulla e reale, tutto e lecito .

    Das ist Wilde Verwegen Jagd .

Posted 08 August 2013 - 01:41 PM

That was in Naruto Chapter 631 . 

 

lols , that was funny , I can't believe that statement was considered to be of significance , I'm talking about recently ever since naruto claimed Sakura was his girlfriend , its like she calmed down a little bit . 

 

What i meant was that since he decided to give them panel time together , something  was bound to happen and then 631 came :P


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 01:41 PM

"Naruto's hand is so big and strong."

but that was back in chapter 615 or 616 . I'm talking about after 631 , how it seemed to me that Hinata has calmed down , its like in a way she is accepting something of importance about Naruto . 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 01:42 PM

 

What i meant was that since he decided to give them panel time together , something  was bound to happen and then 631 came :P

That wasn't directed for you . I know 631 was destined to come it was only a matter of time , now we have to sit back and wait for Sakura to realize her feelings of love for our Number 1 Knucklehead Hyperactive Ninja . 


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 02:38 PM

One thing I found peculiar in the Narutopedia Minato's page: 

 

Arriving on the battlefield just in time to warp the Ten-Tails' Tailed Beast Ball away, he managed to save Naruto and the remainder of the Shinobi Alliance. There he greeted his son — enquiring whether or not he was too late — [...]. Curious, as he thanked Sakura for healing his son, he also asked whether she was his girlfriend. Sakura's subsequent violent response to Naruto's answer reminded Minato of Kushina. With this the other Hokage arrived on......

 

It's interesting how they didn't mention what was Naruto's answer, just how "violent" was Sakura's reaction to it.


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 02:45 PM

One thing I found peculiar in the Narutopedia Minato's page: 

 

It's interesting how they didn't mention what was Naruto's answer, just how "violent" was Sakura's reaction to it.

which shows you can't trust these types of pages for information its just some butt hurt people that changed it up to satisfy themselves because they can't accept the truth . 


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