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#53141 Chatte

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Posted 24 April 2021 - 02:18 PM

While quality-wise AOT is indeed MUCH better than Naruto, I can't help the feeling that ending wise is the same as Naruto (pairing wise) & GOT (plot wise).  :ermm:

The build-up between Eren & Mikasa & Eren & Historia seemed so much like the build-up between NS & SS to me. 

But I guess, compared to Naruto, its ending can be just a bad afterthought because up to that, the story is a masterpiece, while Naruto fell short waay earlier, its last saving grace being the Kushina Arc, while the Pain Arc stands as the point where the story could've very well ended.


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Posted 24 April 2021 - 06:40 PM

While quality-wise AOT is indeed MUCH better than Naruto, I can't help the feeling that ending wise is the same as Naruto (pairing wise) & GOT (plot wise).  :ermm:

The build-up between Eren & Mikasa & Eren & Historia seemed so much like the build-up between NS & SS to me. 

But I guess, compared to Naruto, its ending can be just a bad afterthought because up to that, the story is a masterpiece, while Naruto fell short waay earlier, its last saving grace being the Kushina Arc, while the Pain Arc stands as the point where the story could've very well ended.

 

 

I can second that opinion wholeheartedly Chatte!   

 

Especially with how all of the interviews about AoT post-the ending has come from the editor.... Not Isayama himself that it itself is a huge massive red flag at least for me and what I've gathered thus far. 

 

Sorry for anybody here shipping EreMika but they are the SasuSaku of AoT, and like said Chatte said EreHisu is the NaruSaku but on a much deeper level in AoT... there are gonna be some that say nothing was there from the anime but.... let me tell you Witt had a big Mikasa bias almost as big as Perriot's was for Hinata and you could tell... when you read the manga vs watching the anime it's like almost night and day... swear to god  I feel like I'm going through ptsd just thinking about it. 

 

 

And for sure... the last saving grace of Naruto was the Kushina arc before it really went to hell completely, but no it's true The Pain Arc could've been where the story ended for Naruto because if you think about it Naruto's entire goal throughout the story was to be acknowledged by everybody in the leaf, and he got to that after he came back from his conversation with Pain. you didn't need any of the dumb Five Kage stuff and sigh this.....

 

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Posted 24 April 2021 - 09:44 PM

Agree to disagree. While EreHis had potential moments in the manga, Eremika seemed to pick up the moment Eren finally realized (when the Smiling Titan was about to kill them) after Mikasa's confession that she loved him as a man: That despite his previous preconceptions about their relationship(or rather, how he believed Mikasa viewed their relationship), she did not see him as her foster sibling nor saw it as an obligation to be his protector. Following that moment,  his attitude towards her did a 180 onwards(with the promise of "wrapping her scarf as many times as she wants" interpreted as his own way of reciprocating her feelings). To me, it was a situation similar to Gray and Juvia's from FT.


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Posted 24 April 2021 - 09:46 PM

Agree to disagree. While EreHis had potential moments in the manga, Eremika seemed to pick up the moment Eren finally realized (when the Smiling Titan was about to kill them) after Mikasa's confession that she loved as a man, not as a foster sibling or an obligation as his protector and how his attitude towards her did a 180 onwards. To me, it was a situation similar to Gray and Juvia's from FT.


Sorry I just dont buy that!

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Posted 24 April 2021 - 09:50 PM

Sorry I just dont buy that!


Which is fine, to each their own in this case.

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Posted 24 April 2021 - 10:02 PM

I respect that!

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Posted 24 April 2021 - 10:35 PM

Out of context, but is naruto war going to start?.
I found this in a NS's page on Instagram. I'm not really fluent in English so I just can got the basic idea. But South Korean really were capable of doing that?

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Posted 24 April 2021 - 11:10 PM

Out of context, but is naruto war going to start?.
I found this in a NS's page on Instagram. I'm not really fluent in English so I just can got the basic idea. But South Korean really were capable of doing that?

Those thumbnails grammar is awful even by my standards.

 

...South Koreans are being kitten who don't think that consequences will ever effect them because its online. They did mass fraud pretending to be Japanese and...NS was "torn off by harassments" in a popularity poll. What?

 

What Video? Can you give more context? This largely seem to be rambling kittening about South Koreans about very vague acts on youtube. Why is a war going to start over this?


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Posted 25 April 2021 - 02:20 AM

Those thumbnails grammar is awful even by my standards.
 
...South Koreans are being kitten who don't think that consequences will ever effect them because its online. They did mass fraud pretending to be Japanese and...NS was "torn off by harassments" in a popularity poll. What?
 
What Video? Can you give more context? This largely seem to be rambling kittening about South Koreans about very vague acts on youtube. Why is a war going to start over this?

I was just joking about the war, I hope we never have to be part of a WW. You know, Japanese and Korean are like chilean and argentineans, the have a long history of a really tough rivalry.
The video is this https://www.instagra...d=1vo5fn4groqiq
But I don't understand Japanese.

Edited by ree, 25 April 2021 - 02:22 AM.


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Posted 26 April 2021 - 09:51 PM

Agree to disagree. While EreHis had potential moments in the manga, Eremika seemed to pick up the moment Eren finally realized (when the Smiling Titan was about to kill them) after Mikasa's confession that she loved him as a man: That despite his previous preconceptions about their relationship(or rather, how he believed Mikasa viewed their relationship), she did not see him as her foster sibling nor saw it as an obligation to be his protector. Following that moment,  his attitude towards her did a 180 onwards(with the promise of "wrapping her scarf as many times as she wants" interpreted as his own way of reciprocating her feelings). To me, it was a situation similar to Gray and Juvia's from FT.

 

You see that's the thing... I never really got that vibe in that respect as I picked up the story. I got it as yes, a saving grace moment where Mikasa did help boost his confidence as he was on the brink of desperation because he could never save anyone yadda yadda.

 

Mikasa saw that and knew that she had to deal with him in a different way, so then that gave him a boost to continue to fight instead of dwelling on his inability to fight. But it was all under the sign of desperation, imo.

 

Of course, at the end of the day we're all free to have our own opinions. This is just how I saw it, as a newcomer to the series that wasn't involved (luckily) with the whole mess that was in AOT as well. 

 

But, to each their own.

 

Out of context, but is naruto war going to start?.
I found this in a NS's page on Instagram. I'm not really fluent in English so I just can got the basic idea. But South Korean really were capable of doing that?

 

Wait, they were capable of doing what? I don't understand even with the English translations?? South Koreans did what? Idk man, this is really confusing.


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Posted 27 April 2021 - 08:25 PM

While quality-wise AOT is indeed MUCH better than Naruto, I can't help the feeling that ending wise is the same as Naruto (pairing wise) & GOT (plot wise).  :ermm:
The build-up between Eren & Mikasa & Eren & Historia seemed so much like the build-up between NS & SS to me. 
But I guess, compared to Naruto, its ending can be just a bad afterthought because up to that, the story is a masterpiece, while Naruto fell short waay earlier, its last saving grace being the Kushina Arc, while the Pain Arc stands as the point where the story could've very well ended.

Agree to disagree. There's nothing comparable between Eren/Mikasa with Sasuke/Sakura. They're definitely not the SS of AoT lore.

Spoiler ahead.

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Posted 28 April 2021 - 12:07 AM

 

Watching this still makes me cry.



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Posted 28 April 2021 - 04:23 PM


 
Watching this still makes me cry.


It is a good song. Too bad some parts of her memories got tweaked in the dub a bit, like one cool group shot with her, Ash, Brock and Tracey all together

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Posted 02 May 2021 - 04:40 AM

I was at the mall today and I found this poster of Naruto and Sakura. (I look at picture again) Oh... I didn't notice Kakashi there but I love that Neither Sasuke or Hinata is there.


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Posted 02 May 2021 - 05:12 AM

I was at the mall today and I found this poster of Naruto and Sakura. (I look at picture again) Oh... I didn't notice Kakashi there but I love that Neither Sasuke or Hinata is there.

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Posted 02 May 2021 - 05:54 AM

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Posted 02 May 2021 - 12:21 PM

they had three options in that regard.imho. kill her during the Pein arc with her noble sacrifice being a motivating point for the rookie 9 and naruto in particular. her confession causes Naruto to really search his own feeling son Sakura and reach out to her to let her know how he feels and that while he wants Sasuke back so she can make her own choice hes willing to wait but didnt want her to not know.

this leads into the land of iron arc and the disagreement caused by Sakura attempting to protect him by letting him know she returns his feelings but doing so in an awkward way which hides that she and the rookies decided to take sasuke out and worse she decided to do it by herself. this creates some conflict between them but lets them work it out as they talk afterward and each comes to terms with their rapidly growing affection

the other option is not to kill her because quite frankly she JUST ISNT THAT IMPORTANT her sacrifice just goes  by the way side as it did in the manga and is left behind with no one discussing it again as she slips into the background

of course there is a third option which was never taken which was to use that moment as a matter of personal growth where she acknowledges narutos feelings for Sakura and begins her own journey to let go of him and move on which would have been a fundamental character growth moment

 
And Sakura completes HER character growth by acknowledging, that while her feelings for Sasuke were genuine, it was not love because she did not know him and he didn't let her in at all emotionally. There was no real connection. the most insulting part of the couples is not, again, because of shipping preference, but because character development had to be derailed and completely reversed for the couples to be canon. Naruto acted like all the bridges he built don't matter ands would happily burn them if Hinata didn't return his "retconned and forced" affections in the retconned and forced movie. and Sakura acted like the obnoxious, airheaded, bimbo-like 12 year old she was at the start of the series in chapter 698 and Sasuke married her out of pity, sources say. They didn't even provide closure or a proper resolution to Naruto and Sakura's relationship either. They just said Naruto doesn't know what love is and he pursued Sakura as a shallow attempt to one up Sasuke, negating all their emotional bonding not just of romantic interest but that their very friendship is also a shallow farce. Not to mention that NARUTO of all people, doesn't know what love is, despite wanting friends and family for his entire life and crush blushes around Sakura consistently? Anyone with any actual emotional attachment to this series and always kept the story dear to them can never acknowledge these messages as a good thing or even true. But of course any pro ender that I have ever met is of one of 2 camps 1. that they only care about Hinata and her wants to the exclusion of everything else or 2. they just like imagining that Naruto is boning Hinata vicariously for them. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Even chapter 700 did not feel like a proper ending because sure Naruto became hokage, but has he changed anything like he said he would? Nope, he is just continuing the same mistakes as his predecessors without a care in the world. so much for being the chosen one that would end all world conflict.


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Posted 02 May 2021 - 12:45 PM

I was at the mall today and I found this poster of Naruto and Sakura. (I look at picture again) Oh... I didn't notice Kakashi there but I love that Neither Sasuke or Hinata is there.

funny i saw a shirt in hot topic yestersay of team 7 and it was naruto sakura yamato and sai



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Posted 02 May 2021 - 10:30 PM

 

I believe that's the first shippuden poster



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Posted 03 May 2021 - 03:58 PM

Yeah all promos until Sasuke's return in the story for part II/Shippuden focused exclusively on Naruto Sakura and Kakashi.

 

No Hinata to be found, on a side note. Why I actually bring this up because logically speaking this would have been the perfect oppurtunnity to develop an actual relationship between Naruto and Hinata since Sasuke is not here to muck up the love triangles further and Sakura is starting to be more affectionate to Naruto. IF Hinata was to be established as "the love interest" this right here would have been the perfect opportunity. I'm just being objective about the establishment of love interests because nnot a romance manga is no excuse because part of the focus of the story is Naruto growing closer with a female friend that he's known for a long time annd is seeing the real him despite turning her nose down on him before. you can't focus on that and then say "it is not a romance plot point." That is plain idiocy


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