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#5261 redkunai66

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 06:09 AM

QUOTE (Boom...Winning @ Sep 1 2011, 06:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it really varies from fan to fan, but I personally think it has a high chance of happening. The foreshadowing, development, and care Kishi puts into their relationship just doesn't seem like something he can go back on. The other main hetero pairings, Sasu/Saku and Naru/Hina, haven't received nearly as much postive development. Other than two or three scenes, Sasu/Saku has never been portrayed in a positive light, and even those weren't decidedly romantic. Naru/Hina has received some postive development, but Kishi ignores that pairing so much it seems close to impossible to believe that was ever his endgame pairing. Even when N/H was at its highest, after her confession, the arc still ended on a Naru/Saku note (the tender embrace she gave him).

But, of course, there's always the chance that we all drastically overestimate Kishi's writing style, and he just constantly makes stuff up arc by arc, and enjoys trolling his fandom. I really hope that isn't the case though.


the thing is, fandom does have a voice, one that good authors should have mind to pay attention to. what fans like outside of japan aren't as important to kishi as fans in japan. cause those are the ones that have a chance of influencing his work.
e.g. bleach started out pretty ship neutral- both orhime and rukia showed up in the preliminary oneshot- but ichiruki quickly became the most favourited shipping there as it did here. Kubo listened and agreed, and preety much supports the pairing full force, to the point where many many recent chapters might as well have ichiruki plastered as all over them in red ink.

of course bleach isn't what we're talking about here, but i don't see NS as a popular hetero pairing in japan- if anything SS is- but don't quote me on this- i'm just judging by the amount of fanarts i see that seems more stylistically Japanese (of course the yaoi beats both outta the water in japan- but everyone knows those pairings won't become canon)
for that reason i do believe NS has a good chance, cause it seems much more like what the author is trying to write, vrs. what other people want to see.
(yes- i am hoping kishi will sink NH and SS like the avatar the last airbender creators did with zutara- its cruel- but i really want it to happen :3)

Edited by redkunai66, 01 September 2011 - 06:17 AM.


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Posted 01 September 2011 - 06:35 AM

QUOTE (redkunai66 @ Sep 1 2011, 01:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the thing is, fandom does have a voice, one that good authors should have mind to pay attention to. what fans like outside of japan aren't as important to kishi as fans in japan. cause those are the ones that have a chance of influencing his work.
e.g. bleach started out pretty ship neutral- both orhime and rukia showed up in the preliminary oneshot- but ichiruki quickly became the most favourited shipping there as it did here. Kubo listened and agreed, and preety much supports the pairing full force, to the point where many many recent chapters might as well have ichiruki plastered as all over them in red ink.

of course bleach isn't what we're talking about here, but i don't see NS as a popular hetero pairing in japan- if anything SS is- but don't quote me on this- i'm just judging by the amount of fanarts i see that seems more stylistically Japanese (of course the yaoi beats both outta the water in japan- but everyone knows those pairings won't become canon)

Hmm, well I can't say I agree too much about the bolded part of your statement. I suppose the shipping subplot in Bleach is a completely different animal, but, other than Orihime's confession, most of the romance in Bleach seems much more subtle to me. Even when I feel like Kubo's trying to push a certain pairing, it doesn't seem to take over as the dominant aspect of the plot. Either way, even right now, I can't really see how the Ichi/Ruki pairing is being 'plastered' for all to see.

Of course, even if Kubo is the type of author to change his long-term plans based solely on his fandom's wants, it doesn't necessarily reflect on Kishimoto's style. To me, the fact that he's shown Hinata less than half a dozen times since the Jinchuriki Confinement Arc, despite her being a huge fan favorite, tells me he isn't that easily influenced by his editors/fans.

But, if his editors have pushed him to change his plot entirely to maintain fan interest, it wouldn't really be as much of a shipping loss to me, as much as a loss of any respect I had for Kishimoto in the first place. But I really don't think that'll be the case. In Japanese manga, the mangaka tends to have quite a bit of creative freedom with his characters. This is one of the big differences between Japanese manga and American comics, from what I've heard. I'm sure there's better examples, but apparently Akira Toriyama's editor tried to get him to make Goku and Bulma become an item originally, as that pairing was more popular with fans back then. Toriyama apparently refused, and proceeded to have Goku and Chi-Chi get married by the end of Dragonball. Hopefully it's the same case with Kishi. happy.gif

Edited by Boom...Winning, 01 September 2011 - 06:36 AM.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 01:46 PM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Sep 1 2011, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So overall.. Do you guys see a high chance of Narusaku happening?

I believe in this pairing so yes, yes I do think that NaruSaku has a high chance of happening. Alot higher chance than the other pairings.

Edited by Amy-chan, 01 September 2011 - 01:47 PM.



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Posted 01 September 2011 - 02:46 PM

QUOTE (Boom...Winning @ Aug 29 2011, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought I'd bring something up here. It's sort of a random thing, so if you'd rather continue with the current conversation, feel free to ignore it.

Every once in a while, when Kishi draws a splash page in the manga, some of us like to point out small details and how they relate to the overall canon, and oftentimes the shipping argument. I don't have a problem with that, in fact I enjoy when people point out little hints that I easily miss, regardless of whether or not Kishi's actually hinting at anything. In any case, I re-discovered this image, and thought I'd bring it up again.

Chapter 442 Splash Page --Click here to view--
So basically, it looks like Kishi was trying to compare Team 7 to the Ame Orphan Trio that Jiraiya trained. Sakura is being compared to Konan, which is sort of the obvious parallel, seeing as how they're the only females in their teams. It's the other two comparisons I was curious about. By how the panels are placed, it looks like Naruto is being compared to Nagato, while Sasuke's counterpart is Yahiko. A parallel between Naruto and Nagato can potentially work well, seeing as how the two had similar dreams, started with self-confidence issues, and are connected to the Uzumaki Clan, but Sasuke and Yahiko seem a bit trickier to compare to me. Other than being the first member to 'leave' the trio, they don't seem to have too much in common, at least that I can think of. In fact, I always thought Naruto had more in common with Yahiko than Nagato (hair style, similar hair colors, goofy grin, ambition, etc.). Of course, I'd like to think Kishimoto would have some reason for drawing these panels, so I'll bring up the parallel that some of us might be dreading.

Is it possible that the parallels of the two teams will work out in a romantic sense? I can't recall if Nagato ever had feelings for Konan, or if Konan ever grew to develop feelings for Nagato, but it seems like a potential romance was being shown between Yahiko and Konan prior to his death, with Nagato seeming to support the two. So, if the parallel is drawn the same way Kishi drew on the splash page, it seems to imply a Sasu/Saku pairing, with Naruto supporting them.

I suppose the parallel could really work out both ways, seeing as how Nagato and Sasuke both have powerful eye techniques, and Naruto and Yahiko are drawn very similar, but I thought I'd bring the comparison up due to how the above page was organized. I'm guessing this page has been discussed here before, but I was just curious to see what anyone had to say on it.

Hey, sorry I'm weighing in late on this one.

I love analyzing the images. And I love the combination of writing and illustration together - there are many levels of communicating your ideas. That being said, I think this image is more a comparison of their powers/signifigance to the story line over the obvious first impression we were given of Yahiko's team.

If I remember correctly I thought Yahiko/Konan/Nagato very closely paralleled Naruto/Sakura/Sasuke, respectively. You can even see it in the image here where Yahiko and Naruto are drawn nearly identically. And I thought Nagato would certainly have been a perfect example of a less-revenge-oriented Sasuke. And of course Konan's relationship with Yahiko, her loving him and following his dream even as it put him in danger, could easily happen to Sakura. Just as it would be so easy to imagine Naruto sacrificing everything he'd work for to save Sakura, just as Yahiko did for Konan.

But in this image, and in the manga itself, Naruto is more closely following Nagato's path. I suppose Naruto/Nagato would represent the power to bring change (whether through pain or peace), while Yahiko/Sasuke might represent the lost dreams/hopes that they still pursue....

Konan, I think, is the most tragic character in the whole series. And I think she is certainly an example of what Sakura could turn out like if she lost everything, including Naruto and her faith in Konoha. Like if something tragic happened and Konoha were somehow responsible for Naruto's death, especially in exchange for Sakura's life, I could easily believe her twisting Naruto's dream of peace into some reasoning to wipe out Konoha. Just as Konan and Nagato did in pursuing Yahiko's dreams. (But that's all for the realm of fanfics!)

No, Konan was left to partner with her lover's corpse, with Nagato operating it from behind the scenes. I seriously think that would have been a fate worse then death. She basically lost both her teammates that day. And with Nagato taking over Yahiko's role, stepping up to the plate and fulfilling his goals, Konan would probably be too shell-shocked and guilt-ridden to ever consider not following this new path with Nagato.

It would be like Tsunade continuing to partner with Dan's corpse. Or Kakashi with Obito. I mean, we don't even know if it was Yahiko's voice or if it was Nagato's that came out. The case could be made for either one. Anyway, I would think she would just have to kill herself inside to move on. Which to me is what her single chakra piercing represents — she's as dead inside as Yahiko is outside. I know it connects her to Nagato's chakra, but really when you look at the bigger picture, she's the only live one in their squad of corpses. What does that say about her emotional state? She's given up her life to this cause...she just hasn't died yet.

Edited by tricksie, 01 September 2011 - 02:48 PM.


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Posted 01 September 2011 - 02:55 PM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Sep 1 2011, 06:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So overall.. Do you guys see a high chance of Narusaku happening?


Well it's not hinting at any other pairing yet happy.gif as we see and Believe me we can say that neutrally

QUOTE (redkunai66 @ Sep 1 2011, 07:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the thing is, fandom does have a voice, one that good authors should have mind to pay attention to. what fans like outside of japan aren't as important to kishi as fans in japan. cause those are the ones that have a chance of influencing his work.
e.g. bleach started out pretty ship neutral- both orhime and rukia showed up in the preliminary oneshot- but ichiruki quickly became the most favourited shipping there as it did here. Kubo listened and agreed, and preety much supports the pairing full force, to the point where many many recent chapters might as well have ichiruki plastered as all over them in red ink.

of course bleach isn't what we're talking about here, but i don't see NS as a popular hetero pairing in japan- if anything SS is- but don't quote me on this- i'm just judging by the amount of fanarts i see that seems more stylistically Japanese (of course the yaoi beats both outta the water in japan- but everyone knows those pairings won't become canon)
for that reason i do believe NS has a good chance, cause it seems much more like what the author is trying to write, vrs. what other people want to see.
(yes- i am hoping kishi will sink NH and SS like the avatar the last airbender creators did with zutara- its cruel- but i really want it to happen :3)


Well you should know then that Fans don't decide what the author writes and even if they did it will still be the same thing: the idea will be hated by someone else dry.gif Manga artists like any other writer knows they can't please everyone so they will at least be professional and write how they see it and I don't really know about anything about the romance in Bleach But I'm sure Kubo isn't so one sided with the pairings because Ichigo has not shown any romantic interest in anyone. Anyways when you say NS isn't a HUGE pairing in Japan either you are right but it's getting more popular than before and to be honest it isn't the biggest pairing anywhere but its not because they hate the pairing they HATE Sakura and feel Naruto is better off without her for whatever reasons they believe So I don't think THEY would influence NS in any manner also NaruSasu Pops up the most because Yaoi (a.k.a. Gay manga) is quite a fad and popular in Japan. tongue.gif Ahem* I'm getting ahead of myself here, welcome to to the site! laugh.gif


QUOTE (Boom...Winning @ Sep 1 2011, 07:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, well I can't say I agree too much about the bolded part of your statement. I suppose the shipping subplot in Bleach is a completely different animal, but, other than Orihime's confession, most of the romance in Bleach seems much more subtle to me. Even when I feel like Kubo's trying to push a certain pairing, it doesn't seem to take over as the dominant aspect of the plot. Either way, even right now, I can't really see how the Ichi/Ruki pairing is being 'plastered' for all to see.

Of course, even if Kubo is the type of author to change his long-term plans based solely on his fandom's wants, it doesn't necessarily reflect on Kishimoto's style. To me, the fact that he's shown Hinata less than half a dozen times since the Jinchuriki Confinement Arc, despite her being a huge fan favorite, tells me he isn't that easily influenced by his editors/fans.

But, if his editors have pushed him to change his plot entirely to maintain fan interest, it wouldn't really be as much of a shipping loss to me, as much as a loss of any respect I had for Kishimoto in the first place. But I really don't think that'll be the case. In Japanese manga, the mangaka tends to have quite a bit of creative freedom with his characters. This is one of the big differences between Japanese manga and American comics, from what I've heard. I'm sure there's better examples, but apparently Akira Toriyama's editor tried to get him to make Goku and Bulma become an item originally, as that pairing was more popular with fans back then. Toriyama apparently refused, and proceeded to have Goku and Chi-Chi get married by the end of Dragonball. Hopefully it's the same case with Kishi. happy.gif


Umm actually scratch that Anguyen because ten NH fans will spaz about How Goku did not fall in love with Bulma whom was the Heroine back then like Sakura and Fell for a side Character a.k.a Chi Chi and will say she is Dragon Ball's Hinata argh1.png

Response: Yeah I know pal but it doesn't stop Obsessers from using it as SOME sort of pointless evidence to convince themselves of their pairing. Just cause something is not true doesn't mean it won't annoy the heck out of you when someone repeats like a broken Tape recorder just like I pointed out with the "Vesperia Argument" dry.gif They will USE IT AND USE IT Just BECAUSE they SEE similarity though there is none over and over so you can't help but facepalm.png some times and get this urge to slap them silly. So though it has no relevance in any sense and is nothing to worry about, I'm just saying there's no point in giving them ammunition that will make you want to strangle them down.gif anyway I've never seen that character you're using as an avatar before. Who is it,and where are they from happy.gif

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Sep 1 2011, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sorry, what?

As of for the chances that narusaku will happen, there's a high chance that it will happen. It has to happen, because there are way too many valid points more than the other hetro pairings "valid" points. And I'm saying the quoted valid very loosely.


They will compare Naruto to Goku, Bulma to Sakura, And Chi Chi to Hinata. Goku, hero, and did fall in love with Bulma, heroine, instead married Chi Chi, side character. Irrelevent, pointless and has nothing to do with Naruto? YES, but like the Estelle, Yuri, Flynn argument better off not giving it to them so they can blast it in our faces and we get SERIOUSLY annoyed and want to shoot them. nothing is worth that kind of migraine

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 03:21 PM

We already stated in another thread I believe, that Chi Chi is nothing like Hinata.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 03:28 PM

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Sep 1 2011, 07:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Umm actually scratch that Anguyen because ten NH fans will spaz about How Goku did not fall in love with Bulma whom was the Heroine back then like Sakura and Fell for a side Character a.k.a Chi Chi and will say she is Dragon Ball's Hinata argh1.png


I'm sorry, what?

As of for the chances that narusaku will happen, there's a high chance that it will happen. It has to happen, because there are way too many valid points more than the other hetro pairings "valid" points. And I'm saying the quoted valid very loosely.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 03:36 PM

QUOTE (Fyuria'sLeo @ Sep 1 2011, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We already stated in another thread I believe, that Chi Chi is nothing like Hinata.


Wasn't it in this thread? Well I'm lazy to look for it.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 04:07 PM

I was thinking last night o.o Someone said before that Kishi likes trolling his fandom, well what if we're being trolled right now? Like a mindf-k. With Sakura actually loving Naruto but still not wanting to let Sasuke go, to add a dramatic sequence, like a "What the HELL?" moment to appall the reader. Back in the hug scene after Naruto came back and Konoha was cheering for him, Hinata showed a look of approval; or happiness for him I think as long as he's happy, Hinata will be happy - knowing that Sakura is the one he truly loves, I think back in the fight with Pain, Hinata didn't expect Naruto to come rushing in her arms, (despite being.. held down by those chakra poles?) maybe she just needed to get her feelings out of her after so many years of bottling them up, and didn't expect anything else? I dunno. Maybe w'ere just being trolled by Kishi and he uses Sakura's angry nature to hide her real feelings - Like Sai said in his book in movie 3. ''A girl will hide their feelings for you by getting angry and acting violently" Does this make any sense? xD I just woke up. argh1.png ALL THE CONFUSION.
 
 
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 05:52 PM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Sep 1 2011, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey, sorry I'm weighing in late on this one.

No worries. happy.gif Thanks for responding, I was kind of thinking it was a failure of a talking point, LOL.

I also really like when Kishi does pages like that, and draws parallels with his images. In this case, I think it does a good job of helping the reader relate to both the villains and the heroes. But yeah, I guess the Nagato/Naruto, Yahiko/Sasuke parallels are probably more based on their respective roles in the team. Paptala mentioned it earlier, but a romantic parallel would be contradictory, considering the Jira/Tsu and Mina/Kushi parallels he's also drawn in the story.

I also like your thoughts on Konan. I never really thought about how it must feel to work alongside your lover's corpse. The impression I got was that she basically killed her own free will, and elected to follow Nagato, and what she believed was Yahiko's dream (though I wonder if he would have supported the present-day Akatsuki's goals were Nagato to die instead of him). And I never really thought about her one piercing, but I guess it does sort of help her fit in with the corpses in her team. As if she's a corpse who has yet to die.
To be honest, Konan is actually one of my favorite characters in the story. I guess I don't really read/watch enough manga/anime, but I feel like I'm so used to female villains in these series being either temptresses or man-haters, it's refreshing to see a female antagonist who elicits sympathy from me like Konan does.

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Sep 1 2011, 09:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Umm actually scratch that Anguyen because ten NH fans will spaz about How Goku did not fall in love with Bulma whom was the Heroine back then like Sakura and Fell for a side Character a.k.a Chi Chi and will say she is Dragon Ball's Hinata argh1.png

Response: Yeah I know pal but it doesn't stop Obsessers from using it as SOME sort of pointless evidence to convince themselves of their pairing. Just cause something is not true doesn't mean it won't annoy the heck out of you when someone repeats like a broken Tape recorder just like I pointed out with the "Vesperia Argument" dry.gif They will USE IT AND USE IT Just BECAUSE they SEE similarity though there is none over and over so you can't help but facepalm.png some times and get this urge to slap them silly. So though it has no relevance in any sense and is nothing to worry about, I'm just saying there's no point in giving them ammunition that will make you want to strangle them down.gif

Err, are you talking to me? Because you quoted me, but it sounds like you're talking to Anguyen92. headscratch.gif

Anyways, I wasn't trying to compare the respective romantic subplots of Dragonball and Naruto, I believe that horse has been beaten to death with a stick already. I was just pointing out how fans and editors don't necessarily have to force the mangaka to change his story. Similar romantic plot-lines won't prove a pairing canon by any means, but similar situations, like the Fruits Basket parallel that was posted earlier, can easily be used to debunk negative assertions (in that case, whether Sakura's confession was the 'end' of N/S). There generally tend to be multiple facets to these things, which is why a perfect comparison to Naruto is almost impossible. Both Goku/Chi-Chi and the ToV pairings can be used to both 'prove' and 'disprove' Naru/Saku, which seems to me proof that the comparisons are pointless to begin with.

Also, I know some members the opposing fandoms can be irritating at times, but I highly recommend you stop caring about what they say if it bothers you so much. Getting hot under the collar over potential/actual arguments they might use doesn't really seem fruitful. I know I tend to get exasperated easily, so if you're anything like me, I highly recommend you just ignore them.

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anyway I've never seen that character you're using as an avatar before. Who is it,and where are they from happy.gif

Haha, again, I'm not sure if you're talking to me, but it's Ike from Fire Emblem, one of my favorite video game series. The games aren't incredibly popular outside of Japan, but a few characters from the series have appeared in the Super Smash Bros. games for Nintendo consoles, which you might be more familiar with.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 07:00 PM

Oh Yeah I was talking to to you Boom I thought Anguyen was confused on what we're talking about anyways yeah Like I said Don't give NH (the rabid ones at least) Ideas facepalm.png Like you said We WILL want clobber our own ears because they will piss us off yeah I know we could ignore them anytime so I shouldn't make a big deal of it but we could snap eventually so lets just reduce it as much as possible. And yeah I know manga artists don't actually let others control the plot of their story because it would be unprofessional and could cause things to go sour and become even worse so I agree no one should be pressured to change their stories In Bakuman the main characters let the fans influence their story for a little bit and it became worse to show the moral of using your own ideas and control the flow of the lot yourself

Oh my bad then Anguyen So yeah Ignoring them is the best choice and will prevent conflict which is why don't tell them anything they can use against us like trolls and don't quarrel if it can be helped

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 07:06 PM

^^ Uhhhhh, I did not make my first post on this thread, today, until after you mentioned my name, so I have really no clue of what you were talking about. And to be fair and honest, youtube commentors and opposing fandoms, in general, would be either supportive or being a huge troll, which leads to horrible arguments, so the reasonable thing to do is to ignore them, because they might sour on your opinion of the matter.

Btw, I was suppose to be taking a day off from posting, but that's out of the window.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 10:16 PM

The problem between the whole Goku not falling for Bulma thing is that Naruto has already shown that he loves Sakura. And also Goku was like 6 and Bulma was 16 so there's a huge 10 year of difference here I knew it was never going to happen.
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 10:28 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Sep 1 2011, 06:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The problem between the whole Goku not falling for Bulma thing is that Naruto has already shown that he loves Sakura. And also Goku was like 6 and Bulma was 16 so there's a huge 10 year of difference here I knew it was never going to happen.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 12:10 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Sep 1 2011, 11:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The problem between the whole Goku not falling for Bulma thing is that Naruto has already shown that he loves Sakura. And also Goku was like 6 and Bulma was 16 so there's a huge 10 year of difference here I knew it was never going to happen.


Yeah I know Gravenimage buddy But we all know logic means nil to the more mad dog like NH fans as long as they think it's a valid comparison and ignore all facts about how it's NOT like NS because they HAVE to have comparisons to NH because there is not proof whatsoever in the manga that they will get NH dry.gif so they will pull anything out of the hat to argue for NH so they use Kishimoto's biggest influence; Dragon Ball to compare NH to but the thing is Toriyama's pairings were random and not planned out he just did on the spot for whatever reason mellow.gif

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 04:52 AM

iamfenris, hm..i never thought about it that way, but yeah, maybe hinata would just be happy with getting her feelings out there after years of keeping them a secret. actually, if i think about it, if i was in hinata's shoes, i might be like that. i mean, i've had a crush on someone before, but knew that it would go nowhere from the start. i just acknowledged that i liked the guy, but also never pursued it because i knew nothing would happen (and it was a silly little crush anyway). also, i don't know how much of all the blushing/nervousness/flustered behavior stems from her crush or her admiration for naruto (i mean, i've been very flustered and shy around people i admire a lot even if i didn't like them that way) although i have to say it's pretty obvious she both likes him in a romantic sense and admires him as a friend/fellow shinobi/etc...what's not to say that she just wants to tell naruto of her feelings so that he knows, but doesn't expect anything in return? what i'm trying to say is that if hinata has kept a close eye on naruto for so many years, chances are that she knows about his feelings for sakura...well, a character (from the academy days, not just a random person) would have to be really dense not to notice since he's been obvious about them since he was in the academy. and she seems to fall under the "if he's happy, i'm happy" category rather than "OMFASD I'M GOING TO KILL YOU IF YOU DON'T LIKE ME BACK!!11 IF I CAN'T HAVE YOU, NO ONE CAN!!!" category so i feel like she'll just be happy if naruto acknowledges her feelings which he totally didn't yet (i mean, if i was her, i'd want him to say SOMETHING even if it is to say "sorry, but i can't reciprocate your feelings" but then again, she looked pretty content afterwards even when that didn't happen so who knows) and she'll cheer him on from the sidelines...or if she doesn't want to do that, she'll just know that even though her feelings for naruto have grown stronger over the years, she still doesn't know him that well and sakura has a stronger bond with him than she does so it'll most likely be improbable that anything will happen between the two of them (naruto and hinata) so she'll just hope that he'll find his happiness somewhere. smile.gif

i don't know. although hinata's fragile, i don't see her breaking down in an angsty way when (oops, i mean if hehe) naruto ends up picking sakura. of course she'll be a bit sad about it (even if she rationalizes it in her head that she doesn't really have a chance with him, the fact remains that she still has feelings for him), but i think she's pretty content where she is right now and she'll be able to move on. ^^

sorry this is kind of a jumbled post. i probably should've thought about it more before writing, but i have to get off pretty soon so this is a bit jumbled/hard to follow/disorganized. my apologies ^^''

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 04:37 PM

HEY GUYS I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING!!!! omfg.gif Okay now you're free to disagree with me I only thought of this just now so it may not make sense OKAY here goes; AHEM* Does anyone here feel that the biggest obstacle with NS that is preventing them from Happening is.....Sasuke? Well think about it Naruto has been on a Sasuke RAMPAGE for most of the series and Sakura still can't resolve her feelings yet because she's torn between Part I Sasuke and Part II Sasuke and though She loves Naruto I don't think She could affirm to it fully until she knows where she stands with Sasuke. Now it's true That Sasuke leaving improved their relationship and Yet it's also because of Sasuke that Naruto did not fully pay attention nor reflect on Sakura's improved attitude towards him and is refraining himself from confessing Because he imagines Sakura is still in love with Sasuke and Though Sakura Confessed what stopped it from being accepted is Sasuke's new found evil side. She knows she must stop him and that in turn kept her from Keeping Sasuke out of her confession which drew suspicion Because It DOES sound fishy If she told Naruto she has flipped a 180 and tells him She now loves him and doesn't care about Sasuke anymore, since she felt the opposite way at the beginning, and as I pointed out Naruto did not think about how his relationship with Sakura has changed becuase He probably assumed Sakura did it only out of appreciation for him trying to get Sasuke back. Anyways If you agree then okay! cool.gif if Not then it's fine too! a_thumbs.gif I admit I am not very convincing in debates sweat.gif

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 05:43 PM

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Sep 2 2011, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
HEY GUYS I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING!!!! omfg.gif Okay now you're free to disagree with me I only thought of this just now so it may not make sense OKAY here goes; AHEM* Does anyone here feel that the biggest obstacle with NS that is preventing them from Happening is.....Sasuke? Well think about it Naruto has been on a Sasuke RAMPAGE for most of the series and Sakura still can't resolve her feelings yet because she's torn between Part I Sasuke and Part II Sasuke and though She loves Naruto I don't think She could affirm to it fully until she knows where she stands with Sasuke. Now it's true That Sasuke leaving improved their relationship and Yet it's also because of Sasuke that Naruto did not fully pay attention nor reflect on Sakura's improved attitude towards him and is refraining himself from confessing Because he imagines Sakura is still in love with Sasuke and Though Sakura Confessed what stopped it from being accepted is Sasuke's new found evil side. She knows she must stop him and that in turn kept her from Keeping Sasuke out of her confession which drew suspicion Because It DOES sound fishy If she told Naruto she has flipped a 180 and tells him She now loves him and doesn't care about Sasuke anymore, since she felt the opposite way at the beginning, and as I pointed out Naruto did not think about how his relationship with Sakura has changed becuase He probably assumed Sakura did it only out of appreciation for him trying to get Sasuke back. Anyways If you agree then okay! cool.gif if Not then it's fine too! a_thumbs.gif I admit I am not very convincing in debates sweat.gif


I've thought of this before too. Like what Sakura said to Naruto he's always "Sasuke Sasuke Sasuke" (could it be he's obsessed in saving him? :O) how do you think Sakura (or Naruto) will solve this?

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 06:35 PM

Oh no problem it doesn't have to be long laugh.gif anyways I would like to add that though their Sasuke obsession has been reduced in recent times it hasn't been resolved yet

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 03:57 PM

Guys, I heard from someone that they were in the dentist, and they picked up a Naruto magazine, (or something with Naruto in it...) and it said that Kishi said that Sakuras confession was genuine, but Naruto misunderstood it? Does anyone know if this is true?
 
 
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