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[HalfStarStudios]

You guys have to read this. lol

http://forums.mangaf...ARUHINA/page206

According to rip lunarBird CLH, Sasuke loves Sakura and we can't say he doesn't since it was never shown that he doesn't(guess him trying to kill her doesn't mean anything). He says Sakura is a chronic liar and that NH will happen because neither of them are liars. He said that Sakura is the only one to save Sasuke, not Naruto. He says that there's no chance for Sakura to love Naruto but there's a chance that Sasuke loves Sakura and that Naruto has fallen out of love with Sakura and fallen for Hinata.

[merryGOflava]

You guys have to read this. lol

http://forums.mangaf...ARUHINA/page206

According to rip lunarBird CLH, Sasuke loves Sakura and we can't say he doesn't since it was never shown that he doesn't(guess him trying to kill her doesn't mean anything). He says Sakura is a chronic liar and that NH will happen because neither of them are liars. He said that Sakura is the only one to save Sasuke, not Naruto. He says that there's no chance for Sakura to love Naruto but there's a chance that Sasuke loves Sakura and that Naruto has fallen out of love with Sakura and fallen for Hinata.

there are some many double-standards in that comment XD im just gonna leave it alone~

[swagosaurus]

guys.....i just blew my own mind.

everytime; every single time sakura's feelings for naruto come up, whoever's speaking is cut off.

sai, when he talked about how gentle sakura is around naruto. he was going to say something about love in a book he read.

the famous bridge scene, with yamato. get's cut off by naruto waking up.

finally; this is over looked. we all know kishi is a beast at subtlety.

the confession. when sakura hugs naruto, and starts going off about how godly he is, and how sasuke is being a prick, she goes 'from the bottom of my heart, i-' then naruto cuts her off.

throughout the whole manga, and the confession, she never directly says (or it's not shown) that she says 'i love you'. during the confession, all we get it 'what i said naruto, is that i love you.'

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[Gravenimage]

You guys have to read this. lol

http://forums.mangaf...ARUHINA/page206

According to rip lunarBird CLH, Sasuke loves Sakura and we can't say he doesn't since it was never shown that he doesn't(guess him trying to kill her doesn't mean anything). He says Sakura is a chronic liar and that NH will happen because neither of them are liars. He said that Sakura is the only one to save Sasuke, not Naruto. He says that there's no chance for Sakura to love Naruto but there's a chance that Sasuke loves Sakura and that Naruto has fallen out of love with Sakura and fallen for Hinata.

Okay not to sound rude but why are you bothering bringing this up? People shouldn't post links from other forums here, especially if those forums are pro NH and SS. Ignore any point of view from opposite fandoms because chances are 99.5% of their arguments are biased with absolutely zero evidence to back it up. This is the result when opposite fandoms don't get not a single hint or evidence from the manga that are supporting pairings like NH and SS. In my opinion there has NEVER been any evidence or any development to either of those pairings, NS is the one with the most hints, evidence and development since the beginning of the manga. In addition that has a movie that focuses on the NS bond and gives lots of hints of said pairing giving us the big clue ONCE AGAIN for the 100th time I think of the one pairing Kishi supports and wants to make canon in his manga. Again ignore arguments from opposite fandoms because those arguments are said out of desperation, in fact I am sure they don't even believe their own arguments.

[PhenixElite]

guys.....i just blew my own mind.

everytime; every single time sakura's feelings for naruto come up, whoever's speaking is cut off.

sai, when he talked about how gentle sakura is around naruto. he was going to say something about love in a book he read.

the famous bridge scene, with yamato. get's cut off by naruto waking up.

finally; this is over looked. we all know kishi is a beast at subtlety.

the confession. when sakura hugs naruto, and starts going off about how godly he is, and how sasuke is being a prick, she goes 'from the bottom of my heart, i-' then naruto cuts her off.

throughout the whole manga, and the confession, she never directly says (or it's not shown) that she says 'i love you'. during the confession, all we get it 'what i said naruto, is that i love you.'

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Yep! I also recognized this and and already posted it in this thread. Im 100% sure this is kishis intention to save the real moment:

[Don-kun]

You guys have to read this. lol

http://forums.mangaf...ARUHINA/page206

According to rip lunarBird CLH, Sasuke loves Sakura and we can't say he doesn't since it was never shown that he doesn't(guess him trying to kill her doesn't mean anything). He says Sakura is a chronic liar and that NH will happen because neither of them are liars. He said that Sakura is the only one to save Sasuke, not Naruto. He says that there's no chance for Sakura to love Naruto but there's a chance that Sasuke loves Sakura and that Naruto has fallen out of love with Sakura and fallen for Hinata.

The user is very silly, sadly he cannot see past his own biased mind, it's all because some think SS seems cute for them or Hinata means the world to them.

This is mainly the reason why I stop caring about what the other side says, since is seems Ok to try to kill someone you know loves you, but is very wrong to lie to someone even when all you wanted was for that person is keep him safe.


@Gravenimage
Most of the user on that thread seems to be NS supporters.

Edited by Don-kun, 29 October 2012 - 09:34 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

there are some many double-standards in that comment XD im just gonna leave it alone~

"Well Sakura and Sasuke hovever - that's a different story. She can lie to him all she wants, it won't matter. Sasuke won't find it strange, and he won't believe in her lies too. Also Sasuke will never let Sakura do anything strange, he won't let her go overboard. He's just the kind of man she needs, at least in my opinion. Once he returns to Konoha and givs up revenge of course."

"Both Sasuke and Sakura would have no problem to lie to a friend "for his own good". Basically Sakura and Sasuke are the kind of person to think that the end justifies the means. If Sakura needs to lie to save a friend - she'll have no problem with that."

"Naruto and Hinata are different. They won't approve lying and anything like that in any situation. That's the basic reason that Naruto will be better off with Hinata."

Double Standards + Fallacies.

Didn't Naruto lie to Omoi and Karui when he told them that he would tell them all they wanted to know about Sasuke but when they were alone, he didn't do it? So Naruto basically lied to save Sasuke.

Edited by dovahkiin, 29 October 2012 - 09:37 PM.

[candycane-chan]

guys.....i just blew my own mind.

everytime; every single time sakura's feelings for naruto come up, whoever's speaking is cut off.

sai, when he talked about how gentle sakura is around naruto. he was going to say something about love in a book he read.

the famous bridge scene, with yamato. get's cut off by naruto waking up.

finally; this is over looked. we all know kishi is a beast at subtlety.

the confession. when sakura hugs naruto, and starts going off about how godly he is, and how sasuke is being a prick, she goes 'from the bottom of my heart, i-' then naruto cuts her off.

throughout the whole manga, and the confession, she never directly says (or it's not shown) that she says 'i love you'. during the confession, all we get it 'what i said naruto, is that i love you.'

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yuppp but for once I would like for this enterrupting to stop and her feelings to be adressed

HalfStarStudioa that person is just a sakura basher and simply wants to push sakura to sasuke and away from naruto. .When has sasuke lied for a friend?
Though I admit this gave me a laugh

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

yuppp but for once I would like for this enterrupting to stop and her feelings to be adressed

HalfStarStudioa that person is just a sakura basher and simply wants to push sakura to sasuke and away from naruto. .When has sasuke lied for a friend?
Though I admit this gave me a laugh

Naruto lied to to protect sasuke and he hide the truth many times to his friends.
His arguments are invalid waste of time arguing with him.

[candycane-chan]

/\ this too
It's just really hard to have a nice discussion with someone that is so biased.but really his is the first time I heard a NH fan say that

[Branden]

Do NaruSaku fans over-analyze things?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Do NaruSaku fans over-analyze things?

How so? I want to see what you mean there.

[Transformers03]

Do NaruSaku fans over-analyze things?

Yes, but I think all shippers do.

[Paptala]

^ I wouldn't say all shippers do; rather, all pairings fandoms have some shippers that over analyze things.

I've met rational shippers from all pairing fandoms.

Edited by Paptala, 30 October 2012 - 02:42 AM.

[narulsaku]

humm what do you mean by over analyze. hun?

[Transformers03]

^ I wouldn't say all shippers do; rather, all pairings fandoms have some shippers that over analyze things.

I've met rational shippers from all pairing fandoms.

Unless they are Naruhina or Sasusaku fans, in that case they wouldn't be rational, because those are irrational ideas.
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I'm joking.........mostly. While I'm sure that NH/SS shippers have their reasons to ship those pairings, to honestly believe that those pairing have a better chance of happening than NS, that to me doesn't seem............rational.

[Paptala]

humm what do you mean by over analyze. hun?

Taking little things way too far, like thinking that because Sakura's thumb was pointing to Sasuke in the Team 7 photo (when she's sitting on her bed crying over Team 7 during the time Naruto is doing his wind element training), it is a SasuSaku moment.

Its just the nature of the pairing wars in shounen mangas - way too much time in between moments leads to a lot of time to nit pick the moments Kishi gave the pairing fans.

Unless they are Naruhina or Sasusaku fans, in that case they wouldn't be rational, because those are irrational ideas.
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I'm joking.........mostly. While I'm sure that NH/SS shippers have their reasons to ship those pairings, to honestly believe that those pairing have a better chance of happening than NS, that to me doesn't seem............rational.

I've seen a number of fans who ship a pairing and see other pairings as more likely to become canon, or think that no pairing at all is most likely. Just because they ship it, doesn't necessarily mean they think its most likely to be canon.

Also, some pairing fans just believe that their pairing has an equal chance of becoming canon.

Even those who think their preferred pairing is more likely can admit to the fact that NaruSaku isn't dead, and consider arguments from the opposing side politely and respectfully.

Edited by Paptala, 30 October 2012 - 04:00 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Taking little things way too far, like thinking that because Sakura's thumb was pointing to Sasuke in the Team 7 photo (when she's sitting on her bed crying over Team 7 during the time Naruto is doing his wind element training), it is a SasuSaku moment.

Its just the nature of the pairing wars in shounen mangas - way too much time in between moments leads to a lot of time to nit pick the moments Kishi gave the pairing fans.

I've seen a number of fans who ship a pairing and see other pairings as more likely to become canon, or think that no pairing at all is most likely. Just because they ship it, doesn't necessarily mean they think its most likely to be canon.

Also, some pairing fans just believe that their pairing has an equal chance of becoming canon.

Even those who think their preferred pairing is more likely can admit to the fact that NaruSaku isn't dead, and consider arguments from the opposing side politely and respectfully.

Well said.

I do agree that people over thinking things. The most recent one is Naruto talking to Hinata during the war. People signify that Naruto has truly dropped his feelings for Sakura and move on to Hinata. Not only that, he shown a romantic interest in her. In the end, it's another Naruto talking to a friend moment. He didn't show any romantic sense, especially comparing to his interaction with Sakura. So yeah, people like to over analyze. If it's too direct, then well, it could be a different story.

[redragon88]

Do NaruSaku fans over-analyze things?

Some might and some might not. That goes for any type of opinion. I think I have done so myself in the past but recently I try to take everything at face value. Here my basic opinion so far:

1) Sakura loves Sasuke, but, contrary to Naruto who gets strength from his desire to save Sasuke, Sakura seems to be weakened by her feelings.
2) Sakura has gone from disliking, to respecting, to deeply caring about Naruto. That development should culminate in love given that she's his love interest.
3) Naruto's theme is about never giving up. It should end with Naruto achieving his two hardest goals: getting Sasuke's true friendship and Sakura's true love.

Naruto is all about how he changes the perspective of the people around him. There's not reason to believe that love shouldn't be in it as well. Actually, love should be in it if Kishi is looking to deliver a complete message.

It's all about how Naruto's morals can help you achieve your goal in life, that includes love. But as discussed before, it not about you being able to get with any girl you like, it's about how you can eventually get a girl you like to like you back, even if you fail with other girls before. If there was time for Naruto to fall in love again with another girl and to work hard so that she could like him back that would be fine as well, but the problem is that there's no time since the series is about to end.

If Naruto was to fall in love with another girl and try to win her affection it would've happened in the middle of the story, not by the end of it.

[narulsaku]

wow really reddraggon now i see why narusaku4life3g praise you that much. really great post. so i agree with you. about the complete message. i do think that never giving up is the message. what do you guys think about the messages of kisi. i think we must start a topic about it.