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Posted 24 December 2020 - 07:56 AM

Definitely remember this. Ugh damn this biased animation studio! I'll never forget that they fabricated an entire fight! I'm still in shock about that honestly, they blew their budget giving her movie quality animation, yet the actual main fight looked horrendous.

 

They not only added fabrication to the fight (along with the animation of her hair) but also added in that flashback of her, looking like a lolicon, and had to be saved by Naruto from bullies (whom were so dumb that they forgot that she's a Hyuuga). All of this were used because they were ignoring the fact that Sakura was also bullied as a child due to her forehead.


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Posted 24 December 2020 - 05:10 PM

They not only added fabrication to the fight (along with the animation of her hair) but also added in that flashback of her, looking like a lolicon, and had to be saved by Naruto from bullies (whom were so dumb that they forgot that she's a Hyuuga). All of this were used because they were ignoring the fact that Sakura was also bullied as a child due to her forehead.


Yup! Which is something that pisses me off even more!

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Posted 25 December 2020 - 09:16 AM

It HONESTLY wouldn’t have been a problem at all though, if this WASN’T used as “evidence” that Hinata was Naruto’s true love because it doesn’t mean anything. I DON'T CARE how much SP promoted Hinata, or how the males in the Naruto animation team of the studio had "wet dreams" about her. I DETEST the fact that that this was used that Hinata is supposed to be Naruto's eventual wife and that ANY of this garbage was successful in convincing Kishi as such.


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Posted 26 December 2020 - 02:12 AM

so, next up is "If We Truly Support Naruto's Happiness, We Should Support NH, because all Sakura does is cause him Pain."

 

Had someone message me and tell me that out of the blue. I would first love to know when in the Manga has it ever been shown that Hinata makes Naruto happy? Secondly, didn't Sai who is always around Naruto and Sakura-Chan claim that Naruto is literally ALWAYS smiling around Sakura-Chan? Which means that she's the one that makes him happy as if on autopilot? Isn't being with and marrying Sakura-Chan one of Naruto's dreams that he wants to achieve? So, how would us supporting NH in any way support Naruto's happiness and dreams when Naruto's happiness and dreams is with another woman? (Sakura-Chan?) I'm confused...


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Posted 26 December 2020 - 03:15 PM

All Sakura does is cause Naruto pain.- Okay, but All SASUKE DOES IS CAUSE SAKURA PAIN. Does that mean that we shouldn't support SS then? I think so. Not to mention, You say that Sakura cause Naruto pain, But where does it show Hinata making him happy? WELL? I'm waiting. and if you WANT to get into filler episodes, go right ahead because that means you have to take ALL filler episodes as canon and therefore I have a VERY NICE FILE of evidence to counter yours in filler episodes. :kukuku: THEN there is Boruto to consider, where the two love birds are not as "gushing" in love as you were hoping

 

Also Sakura is not causing Naruto pain because she rejected him and friend zoned him, as you all are assuming. Naruto is in pain with Sakura because he feels that he let her down. that is the crux of the POAL. Naruto is assuming because Sakura loves Sasuke he broke his promise to her when he failed to bring Sasuke back. Sakura understood this, when Sai spelled it out for her.

 

See, this is the baloney I mean. Sakura can't love Naruto, she causes him nothing but pain. But when she tries to make up for it or shows affection to Naruto it is dismissed as she doesn't mean it or it is "sisterly concern", AND YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO SAY she doesn't reciprocate Naruto's feelings? On top of that you can't come up with and NaruHina moments that are blatantly romantic besides what you MAKE UP.


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Posted 26 December 2020 - 04:20 PM

All Sakura is cause Naruto pain.- Okay but All SASUKE DIES is CAUSE SAKURA PAIN. Does that mean that we shouldn't support SS then? I think so. Not to mention, You say that Sakura cause Naruto pain, But where does it show Hinata making him happy? WELL? I'm waiting. and if you WANT to get into filler episodes, go right ahead because that means you have to take ALL filler episodes as canon and therefore I have a VERY NICE FILE of evidence to counter yours in filler episodes. :kukuku: THEN there is Boruto to consider. where the two love birds are not as in love as you were hoping
 
Also Sakura is not causing Naruto pain because she rejected him and friend zoned him, as you all are assuming. Naruto is in pain with Sakura because he feels that he let her down. that is the crux of the POAL. Naruto is assuming because Sakura loves Sasuke he broke his promise to her when he failed to bring Sasuke back. Sakura knows this, whe Sai spelled it out for her.
 
See, this is the baloney I mean. Sakura can't love Naruto, she causes him nothing but pain. But when she tries to make up for it or shows affection to Naruto it is dismissed as she doesn't mean it or it is "sisterly concern". On top of that you can't come up with and NaruHina moments that are blatantly romantic besides what you MAKE UP.


I know Naruto not being with her kills him inside because he loves her, but as you said, it isn’t just the fact that she isn’t with him, it’s also the fact that her happiness comes first and it kills him that he’s failing to protect the smile that he so badly wants to protect. Also, what Naruto fails to realize is that he is truly the one that keeps Sakura-Chan happy. He doesn’t know that he hurts her as well when he keeps going after Sasuke, because as of 469, she already made the decision who she was going to choose between Naruto and Sasuke, and that was Naruto; if going after Sasuke meant losing Naruto, then she was ready to give up on Sasuke. She might not have understood WHY she was ready to make that choice at the time, but we all know it’s because her affections was already with Naruto, in a much deeper and much more selfless way than she did with Sasuke. And like you and I pointed out, she can’t fake the blushing, the tender look on her face when she was hugging him and blushing again, the anger when Naruto claimed that she was lying, the shy look on her face as she told him
She loved him, and the REASONS she gave for loving him. That’s evidence enough about where Sakura-Chan’s heart lies.

And another thing. They claim that Sakura-Chan would be a terrible woman if she took Naruto away from Hinata. But, the thing that makes that horsekitten is the fact that Hinata herself was willing to accept Naruto and Sakura-Chan being together as long as Naruto was happy, as evidenced by her reaction to Sakura-Chan hugging Naruto. So, even Hinata knows who Naruto would be happy with.

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Posted 31 December 2020 - 05:09 AM

I'm listening to Luckychi7's podcast and it makes me wish I can join. 


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Posted 31 December 2020 - 05:14 AM

I'm listening to Luckychi7's podcast and it makes me wish I can join. 

 

 

Ah thanks man I'll definitely take that into consideration for the next one,  what's your take on the subject? 


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Posted 31 December 2020 - 05:52 AM

Ah thanks man I'll definitely take that into consideration for the next one,  what's your take on the subject?

How about the fankid Shinachiku? I should war you... I have a dorky voice.

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Posted 31 December 2020 - 05:54 AM

How about the fankid Shinachiku?

 

 

not a bad topic, I'll take that into account.... Though, I think I may already have a topic finalized for the next Naruto Anniversary Podcast, but it's too soon to reveal what that is yet lol.


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Posted 31 December 2020 - 05:57 AM

not a bad topic, I'll take that into account.... Though, I think I may already have a topic finalized for the next Naruto Anniversary Podcast, but it's too soon to reveal what that is yet lol.


Okay. You also wanna do a Kingdom Hearts/Sokai podcast? Do I also need a Skype? Because I don't have on yet.

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Posted 31 December 2020 - 10:15 AM

How about the fankid Shinachiku? I should war you... I have a dorky voice.

Can't be any worse than mine. XD

Apparently I have a Russian accent.


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Posted 31 December 2020 - 07:19 PM

Can't be any worse than mine. XD
Apparently I have a Russian accent.


Funny cause I have a deeper voice when recorded than I normally feel I do when I hear myself talk without being recorded XD

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Posted 31 December 2020 - 07:25 PM

Funny cause I have a deeper voice when recorded than I normally feel I do when I hear myself talk without being recorded XD

That's exactly me, but with a Russian accent. XD


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Posted 31 December 2020 - 08:30 PM

That's exactly me, but with a Russian accent. XD


Huh! Wild XD

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Posted 31 December 2020 - 10:05 PM

Okay here's a bit of fun. and this is optional. Not to mention I know this is not actual data But...

 

Anyone want to find anime couples similar to Naruto X Sakura and see what Hinata Hierophants' thoughts are on them? One meta (lol) example already brought up is Ryuji and Taiga from Toradora. Although Ryuji is not much like Naruto at all, but still. Gotta know how many actually love Asta X Noelle from Black Clover actually. (I certainly do) the dynamic is pretty similar, minus the Sasuke part of the love triangle. 


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Posted 31 December 2020 - 10:13 PM

I just find it funny how when it comes to Naruto, real, genuine love like Naruto has for Sakura-Chan and Sakura-Chan has for Naruto gets downplayed as either a crush or non-existent.

 

But the obsessions(Hinata to Naruto) and the obvious crushes based on nothing(Sakura-Chan to Sasuke) gets overrated as true love.


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Posted 01 January 2021 - 07:25 PM

Also, I must continue bringing up, Sakura's tsundere attitude is labeled as abuse but if it were any other tsundere in another anime/manga, it is either taken for what it is (comedy), or is more often than not overlooked ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Posted 01 January 2021 - 09:15 PM

Also, I must continue bringing up, Sakura's tsundere attitude is labeled as abuse but if it were any other tsundere in another anime/manga, it is either taken for what it is (comedy), or is more often than not overlooked ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


So... ready to hear the hypocrisy of the week? The same people who was calling Sakura-Chans tsundere tendencies towards Naruto abuse, is the same ones who is now cheering for Tsunade to end up with Jiraiya since a clone came about. So, its only a problem when its Naruto and Sakura-Chan.

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Posted 01 January 2021 - 10:27 PM

Okay here's a bit of fun. and this is optional. Not to mention I know this is not actual data But...

 

Anyone want to find anime couples similar to Naruto X Sakura and see what Hinata Hierophants' thoughts are on them? One meta (lol) example already brought up is Ryuji and Taiga from Toradora. Although Ryuji is not much like Naruto at all, but still. Gotta know how many actually love Asta X Noelle from Black Clover actually. (I certainly do) the dynamic is pretty similar, minus the Sasuke part of the love triangle. 

Natsu and Lucy from Fairy Tail definitely have their similarities to Naruto and Sakura, and I've seen NaruHina fans drool over them and hail them as a perfect couple.  Same with couples like Inuyasha and Kagome, who also have obvious parallels with Naru/Saku in terms of personalities and their interactions(with Inuyasha even having similar experiences to Naruto, such as being ostracized since childhood and seeking acceptance through whatever means possible), but I rarely hear any disparaging remarks over their relationship.

 

You also have Touma and Mikoto from the Toaru series (granted, they aren't yet an official couple, but a large portion of the fandom supports them) where I almost never hear any complaints about Mikoto trying to electrocute Touma on a regular basis, either because she wants to fight him or because he said/did something stupid to accidentally set her off.

 

Even Louise and Saito from Familiar of Zero don't seem to attract much rancor from anime fans, and you actually could make a real case of Louise's treatment towards Saito being abusive.  And while there are detractors, they're disproportionately miniscule compared to the supporters.

 

So yeah, I don't know what it is about NaruSaku that sets people on edge when it's no different to any other romance involving a tsundere and a hot-heated idiot in a shonen.


Edited by Kagomaru, 02 January 2021 - 12:44 AM.

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