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#5241 RedDelicious

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 12:34 PM

QUOTE (K9ofChaos @ Aug 30 2011, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So to sum it all up, They don't like Sakura due to how she treated Naruto in Part 1 and don't want her to have a second chance. They'd rather have Naruto be with Hinata just because she happened to like Naruto to begin with...

Hinata also falls into "first impression". When it was first revealed that Hinata had a crush on Naruto, it looked like it might lead to something. That fact that it hasn't been developed or explored in a meaningful way hasn't stopped some people from grasping at straws to support their initial reaction.

I've said before, I don't find fault with NH shippers who *wish* the manga had gone a different direction with Hinata's relationship (especially early on, before the Sakura growth). I just get annoyed by those who act like the manga *has* gone in that direction.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 05:37 PM

QUOTE (RedDelicious @ Aug 31 2011, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hinata also falls into "first impression". When it was first revealed that Hinata had a crush on Naruto, it looked like it might lead to something. That fact that it hasn't been developed or explored in a meaningful way hasn't stopped some people from grasping at straws to support their initial reaction.

I've said before, I don't find fault with NH shippers who *wish* the manga had gone a different direction with Hinata's relationship (especially early on, before the Sakura growth). I just get annoyed by those who act like the manga *has* gone in that direction.


I agree totally. happy.gif Some people are just like "No! It WENT like this!" When the Manga says a totally different context.
 
 
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#5243 Phantom_999

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 07:57 PM

Yeah I have nothing against NH fans as long as they don't have a obsessed untrue idea of the manga plot and don't rant about NH while bashing NS at the same time

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#5244 Fenris

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 04:00 AM

By the way. Who remembers the Sakura VS Hinata?


What ya think about it?

Edited by iamfenris, 01 September 2011 - 04:01 AM.

 
 
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#5245 Anguyen92

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 04:06 AM

^^ Is that the one where Sakura was complaing that Hinata got her custom-made ending and Naruto played peacemaker? Which resulted in Sakura in destorying the building. Yeah, that pretty funny.

Also, a few episodes later, Pieriot gave Sakura another personal ending, which the count was like four total? It was the one at night where Sakura was in a bikini and had a straw hat. And yes, as always, she looked hot.

Edit: Whoops, wrong one. That's what you get for typing before actually looking at it. But there was an omake like that. Just wanted to put that out there.

Edited by Anguyen92, 01 September 2011 - 04:12 AM.

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#5246 CloudMountainJuror

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 04:15 AM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Aug 31 2011, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
By the way. Who remembers the Sakura VS Hinata?


What ya think about it?

That was funny, not gonna lie laugh.gif Although it did irritate me to see all of those Hinata fanboys/fangirls in the comments being...well...themselves rolleyes.gif
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#5247 Fenris

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 04:16 AM

Ugh one more thing to rant. It REALLY irks me. This video, the COMMENTS on the video; http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

These comments:
"Kishi confessed that he thinks Hinata would make a better heroine

.....also don't forget how he also likes to kill the best characters like Jiraya and Itachi"

"You are delusional if you think Sakura loves Naruto. 469 trolled the NS pairing from the foundations and ended in Naruto rejecting her because he knew she didn't mean it. Even Sai said she did not come there to confess. Re-read those chapters dumbass. Then if that's not enough for you in 540 Sakura thinks of Sasuke as the guy she loves and Naruto does not even cross her mind once. Just because SS gets trolled doesn't mean NS chances increase, they did not at all."

"seriously people are still talking about her conf???it was FAKE.1)she wanted to bring him back 2)naruto said she was lying 3)karin as a sensor sense her love for him and said I SEE YOU LOVE HIM 4)when she was leaving naruto after the conf she said sorry naruto(sorry for what?for lying? 5)after all the big talk she couldn't kill him because she loves him 6)in chap 540 see thought of sasuke when the man said the guy you love need anymore proof?"


Okay. I don't care if Sakura loves Sasuke. In my opinion she'll just have to grow up and get over her childhood crush. We all have to. I admit she's come A LONGGG way from the girl she was in part 1. But, ugh. Cause honestly, I really think ALL Sasuke cares about is revenge and revenge only. His mental state is even way off track. He's not even sane anymore. How Sakura can still love him I have no idea. Naruto did nothing but save her and try to make her happy, and Sakura and Sasuke have even tried to kill each other twice - or three times. I forgot. I know it was too many if Sasuke still "loves" her - which there was no evidence at all that he even did in the first place. All I seen in part 1, was a 12 year old Sakura swooning over the most popular guy in the squads that EVERYONE was drooling over as well. It wasn't only her. And to be honest it didn't evne look like Sasuke LIKED the attention. If anything, he found Sakura as a bother - but had to carry on with her because they were a team and to get futher along in his quest for power, he had to work with his team and work together. Like Kakashi stated similar, when they were trying to catch the bells. I don't know. All I know is i'm really angry right now. To get to my point, people on youtube just really know how to get to me xD

Edited by iamfenris, 01 September 2011 - 04:19 AM.

 
 
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#5248 merryGOflava

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 04:21 AM

^ i stay clear of anything having to do with

A) sakura confession

B) when sakura tries to kill naruto

even sai telling sakura naruto loves her is getting bad comments.

ugh youtube....the comments turn me off sometimes.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 04:27 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 1 2011, 05:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^ i stay clear of anything having to do with

A) sakura confession

B) when sakura tries to kill naruto

even sai telling sakura naruto loves her is getting bad comments.

ugh youtube....the comments turn me off sometimes.

I think I should just not even pay attention to the comments. I really just don't know how, if she still does, how Sakura could even love Sasuke. The moment they came close to kissing where Sakura was all lovey-dovey wasn't even with Sasuke. It was Naruto pretending to be Sasuke remember? And somehow people take the bench scene to be romantic. She confessed so dramatically and he called her annoying and then knocked her out. Idgi. Whats romantic about that. -___-
 
 
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#5250 CaramelMiki

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 04:30 AM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Aug 31 2011, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think I should just not even pay attention to the comments. I really just don't know how, if she still does, how Sakura could even love Sasuke. The moment they came close to kissing where Sakura was all lovey-dovey wasn't even with Sasuke. It was Naruto pretending to be Sasuke remember? And somehow people take the bench scene to be romantic. She confessed so dramatically and he called her annoying and then knocked her out. Idgi. Whats romantic about that. -___-


LOL I laughed when he knocked her out XD

and ok I just thought of something, when Sakura tried to kill Sasuke, I don't think it was because she loved him (well maybe lol) but I think it's because she didn't want to hurt Naruto
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 04:47 AM

QUOTE (CaramelMiki @ Sep 1 2011, 04:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL I laughed when he knocked her out XD

and ok I just thought of something, when Sakura tried to kill Sasuke, I don't think it was because she loved him (well maybe lol) but I think it's because she didn't want to hurt Naruto


o.o- that seems to me more like shipper goggle vision v.s. why she actually couldn't finish her attack (i mean its not much more different than claiming she couldn't kill sasuke because she still loved him e.t.c that the rest of fandom keeps blabing on about sweatdrop.gif )
-- sorry if i sound rude
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Edited by redkunai66, 01 September 2011 - 04:54 AM.


#5252 CaramelMiki

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 05:02 AM

QUOTE (redkunai66 @ Aug 31 2011, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
o.o- that seems to me more like shipper goggle vision v.s. why she actually couldn't finish her attack (i mean its not much more different than claiming she couldn't kill sasuke because she still loved him e.t.c that the rest of fandom keeps blabing on about sweatdrop.gif )
-- sorry if i sound rude
p.s. hi btw, i ma newbie


That's fine, and welcome biggrin.gif

Yeah you are right, and what do you mean by "shipper goggle vision"? o.o
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#5253 Fenris

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 05:05 AM

I just want Naruto and Sakura to end up together ._. It's just these damn youtubers that ruin it for me.
 
 
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#5254 redkunai66

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 05:08 AM

QUOTE (CaramelMiki @ Sep 1 2011, 05:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's fine, and welcome biggrin.gif

Yeah you are right, and what do you mean by "shipper goggle vision"? o.o


something i got from tv tropes biggrin.gif, its basically making interpretations of events in canon and twisting them to suit your ship:http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShippingGoggles
of course the image on the page is the extreme example- but we all do it to certain degrees smile.gif

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Sep 1 2011, 05:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just want Naruto and Sakura to end up together ._. It's just these damn youtubers that ruin it for me.


hey i think we all do. but I think i'll live if it doesn't happen, cause as fans we can ship whatever we want

Edited by redkunai66, 01 September 2011 - 05:11 AM.


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Posted 01 September 2011 - 05:10 AM

QUOTE (redkunai66 @ Sep 1 2011, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
something i got from tv tropes biggrin.gif, its basically making interpretations of events in canon and twisting them to suit your ship:http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShippingGoggles
of course the image on the page is the extreme example- but we all do it to certain degrees smile.gif

Whoa that makes a lot of sense o.o I love you for posting that xD biggrin.gif
 
 
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#5256 redkunai66

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 05:14 AM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Sep 1 2011, 05:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whoa that makes a lot of sense o.o I love you for posting that xD biggrin.gif


NP! i like lurking in that site myself! a_plotting.gif
tho the naruto fic sections is severly lacking in narusaku rec's sad.gif

Edited by redkunai66, 01 September 2011 - 05:15 AM.


#5257 CaramelMiki

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 05:16 AM

QUOTE (redkunai66 @ Aug 31 2011, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
something i got from tv tropes biggrin.gif, its basically making interpretations of events in canon and twisting them to suit your ship:http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShippingGoggles
of course the image on the page is the extreme example- but we all do it to certain degrees smile.gif



hey i think we all do. but I think i'll live if it doesn't happen, cause as fans we can ship whatever we want


Thanks for sharing that XD now I know what you mean haha
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 05:26 AM

So overall.. Do you guys see a high chance of Narusaku happening?
 
 
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#5259 redkunai66

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 05:43 AM

QUOTE (iamfenris @ Sep 1 2011, 06:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So overall.. Do you guys see a high chance of Narusaku happening?

to be honest i don't know- cause as annoying as those youtubers are- they do have as bit of a point. In that sakura's confession didn't lead to a good reaction from fans or the naruto verse characters. hinata's didn't leave good impressions on the characters in naruto verse either, but the fans enjoyed it alot more because she did something crucial in 'saving' naruto, in their eyes.

i think thats quite as bit of hooey- cause hinata's confession turned naru into the thing he doesn't want to be.
the screaming armmogedon-causing-kyuubi. people use this to prove that naruto cares about her, but thats only true because anyone in her place would have caused the same thing if not worse (iruka, kakkashi, konohamoru, sakura e.t.c. i'm pretty sure naruto cannot take losing any of his precious people- and he has many).

the real sintcher here i feel is sakura's feelings, cause kishi is going full at it to promote SS and NH lately- but that can also just be a red herring. (at least i hope it is sad.gif- for me to respect sakura's character, she can't still be in love with sasuke- but she certainly still care about him like one who worries about and wants to help/fix an old friend's issues)

Edited by redkunai66, 01 September 2011 - 05:49 AM.


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Posted 01 September 2011 - 05:48 AM

I think it really varies from fan to fan, but I personally think it has a high chance of happening. The foreshadowing, development, and care Kishi puts into their relationship just doesn't seem like something he can go back on. The other main hetero pairings, Sasu/Saku and Naru/Hina, haven't received nearly as much postive development. Other than two or three scenes, Sasu/Saku has never been portrayed in a positive light, and even those weren't decidedly romantic. Naru/Hina has received some postive development, but Kishi ignores that pairing so much it seems close to impossible to believe that was ever his endgame pairing. Even when N/H was at its highest, after her confession, the arc still ended on a Naru/Saku note (the tender embrace she gave him).

But, of course, there's always the chance that we all drastically overestimate Kishi's writing style, and he just constantly makes stuff up arc by arc, and enjoys trolling his fandom. I really hope that isn't the case though.

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