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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Not really. All the parallels are alike in certain aspects. It's each one has fragments of parallel to team 7 but aren't exactly parallel to them.

Team Sarutobi:
Jiraiya loved Tsunade but failed to ever confess to her. Naruto will confess.
Jiraiya failed to save Orochimaru from the path of evil. Naruto will save Sasuke from evil.
Jiraiya never become a perfect sage. Naruto will become a perfect sage.
Jiraiya couldn't bring peace to the world. Naruto will.

Team Minato:

Obito tried to confess his love but could not.
Obito "saved" kakashi form his wrong beliefs but "died" on process.
Obito could not surpass minato.
Obito falied on the purpose.

[TouKen4Life3g]

@rocci: Wow, thanks for sharing. It was great and I think he/she has the same idea in here. Look, maybe it would have been harder to decide who's going to end up with who if it wasn't the fact that Sakura shows signs that her feelings for him is more than close friends. Kishi, as well as the databook, placed her in a confused state of feelings. It's normal that the girl doesn't know her feelings until they learn it for themselves. It has happen in a while. Anyway, thanks for sharing.

@PhenixElite: Now I think about it, there are tons of them. I just didn't think properly and the fact I don't know what it means to be love triangle. So I thank everyone for this big list of them. I guess it's normal thing in stories then. It's just the reason why I'm a big for this pairing is because the events they have gone through, as well as developments. It's like you're growing up with them when they're kids and now, they're grown up and continue to grow as time progresses. I know there are animes that has done this, but the whole idea of not liking the guy, only to like the other guy is a nice touch from Kishi, Granted, it has been stall in terms of resolution, but it is the purpose of the story. I like the idea that Naruto really exposed the selfless love. A lot of other anime/manga doesn't go as far as telling you about selfless love. Some does show it, but this one really going with this idea, let alone a Shounen Jump one. If Kishi can pull it off, then I got myself a great story.

Aparently Obito wanted to be hokage. Now it can't be argued that Obito is parallel to Naruto

Yeah, that last part of the flashback was the seal of the deal. I don't know how Kakashi wouldn't mention to Naruto the fact Obito was like him. Kakashi already established that Kakashi was like Sasuke, so it would be dumb to twist word up and say just like Sasuke for Obito. The only part that's him was the fact he's Uchiha. But for Kishi, it's about the personality and experience that makes the parallel works, not the class they're in. It has been many of times. That all said now we have to wait to see how this will end.

Yep we gotta hand it to Kishi for being in love with parallels.

Indeed.

[sushi.]

I guess a point is that anyone can turn evil. Even the gutsy failure of the team (Lee, Naruto, Jiraiya, Obito.) Just because Obito is a badguy, and Sasuke is too, does not mean they parallell eachother.

[Deej]

I remember how Kishi said in an interview that he wasn't interested in writing romance with Shikamaru when asked about his relationship with "s certain kunoichi from Suna" , but I don't believe he meant it in a way that implied they wouldn't get together.

I think Kishi just meant to say that he wasn't gonna focus on how they would develop their relationship in the story, but instead he would simply show an epilogue of them being together (probably with Temari being all tsundere on him while he says how troublesome this is ). As for how they decided to get together, that will probably be up to the audience interpretation.

It's the same scenario with Asuma and Kurenai, Kishi didn't write any romance between them, he just put some teases here and there, and lo and behold, we suddenly find out that Kurenai was pregnant with his child.

I think that's what Kishi meant by not being interested in writing romance for Shikamaru, he would just put some minor hints and then show them together without going into specifics. Which is completely different from Naruto and Sakura since we will see every last bit of their development together.

I agree Asuma with Kurenai is the template for that relationship. It is just something you have to accept without seeing a lot of development. People assumed Asuma and Kurenai would get together despite them showing no romantic affection toward each other in Part 1. And they were right. Shikamaru x Temari is this generation's Asuma x Kurenai. Them being together a lot is enough of a hint.

The funny thing is that interview was 2009. The next year, Kishimoto put Temari and Shikamaru together in the same division for the war and they interacted. Unfortunately, they didn't stay together longer to interact more, but that was enough to re-fuel the almost canon feeling of that pairing. Kishimoto isn't a stupid guy. He knew exactly what he was doing by putting them together. Kishimoto's assistant is the mangaka for the Rock Lee manga. He just recently had a chapter that alluded to the Shikamaru and Temari relationship with a scene where Lee questioned Temari about what is going on between her and Shikamaru; wondering why they are always together. So I think Kishomoto is well aware this is something fans want to see and there is nothing preventing it from happening. Outside of some angry ShikaIno fans.


The Big Three are different since they require more development. You can't wrap up NaruSaku in a few panels like you can with ShikaTema.

Edited by Deej, 25 October 2012 - 09:19 PM.

[Arachnia]

I agree Asuma with Kurenai is the template for that relationship. It is just something you have to accept without seeing a lot of development. People assumed Asuma and Kurenai would get together despite them showing no romantic affection toward each other in Part 1. And they were right. Shikamaru x Temari is this generation's Asuma x Kurenai. Them being together a lot is enough of a hint.

The funny thing is that interview was 2009. The next year, Kishimoto put Temari and Shikamaru together in the same division for the war and they interacted. Unfortunately, they didn't stay together longer to interact more, but that was enough to re-fuel the almost canon feeling of that pairing. Kishimoto isn't a stupid guy. He knew exactly what he was doing by putting them together. Kishimoto's assistant is the mangaka for the Rock Lee manga. He just recently had a chapter that alluded to the Shikamaru and Temari relationship with a scene where Lee questioned Temari about what is going on between her and Shikamaru; wondering why they are always together. So I think Kishomoto is well aware this is something fans want to see and there is nothing preventing it from happening. Outside of some angry ShikaIno fans.


The Big Three are different since they require more development. You can't wrap up NaruSaku in a few panels like you can with ShikaTema.

ShikaIno fans:O they exist :O

well i liked the Sai and Ino in a way:P but thats offtopic haha

[narulsaku]

ShikaIno fans:O they exist :O

well i liked the Sai and Ino in a way:P but thats offtopic haha

sai x INO well thats a little oodd to me . but i thought that shikaino was the one but it changed when sikamaru and temari showed interest in eachother.what ever i dont care about side pairings though they are interesting.

[narulsaku]

ShikaIno fans:O they exist :O

well i liked the Sai and Ino in a way:P but thats offtopic haha

sai x INO well thats a little oodd to me . but i thought that shikaino was the one but it changed when sikamaru and temari showed interest in eachother.what ever i dont care about side pairings though they are interesting.

[Nefertieh]

Again, incest in Japan is normal and I have seen anime done this, which I mentioned before, and guess what, it ended up being canon. The way it's going reminds me of FMA, only vice versa in terms of gender and not cousins.

Well... Incest is illegal pretty much everywhere, but cousin marriages are not. However, they are still extremely rare. I don't know why it seems common in anime, perhaps it is the temptation of forbidden fruit?

In Neji and Hinata's case, if it were in life it would possibly be illegal too. Remember, they are genetically half-siblings. I like the pairing, unfortunately it seems like Kikittenmoto doesn't want to explore they Hyuuga family any more.

[narulsaku]

i am not interesting in hyuga any more. you know i think why just kisi showed those hyuga family flashbacks during the chunin exam . he could finish that just like that i think that he wanted to give us a message that dont underestimate any one i think the manga start from that underestimate. i mean in the second episode when that white haired ninja i dont remember his name he underestimated naruto and naruto showed him that hes not weak. the whole manga i think is based on that what do you guys think.

[sushi.]

Well... Incest is illegal pretty much everywhere, but cousin marriages are not. However, they are still extremely rare. I don't know why it seems common in anime, perhaps it is the temptation of forbidden fruit?

In Neji and Hinata's case, if it were in life it would possibly be illegal too. Remember, they are genetically half-siblings. I like the pairing, unfortunately it seems like Kikittenmoto doesn't want to explore they Hyuuga family any more.

I like NejiHina, hope they end up together. But if they don't, it will not affect the quality of the story. You can say it's a minor ship/side ship, something like that.

But I've always wondered, since their fathers were identical twins, aren't they more like siblings then? I don't know if Kishi ever thought of this, but I think their children can turn out to be sick. D:

narusaku:the only whitehaired villain I can think of is Kimimaro. And btw, I understand why you're not interested in them anymore. In part 1, they were the kick ass in Konoha, but in part 2, they're getting far to little attention. I guess there's only room(and love) for Uchiha. D:

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well... Incest is illegal pretty much everywhere, but cousin marriages are not. However, they are still extremely rare. I don't know why it seems common in anime, perhaps it is the temptation of forbidden fruit?

In Neji and Hinata's case, if it were in life it would possibly be illegal too. Remember, they are genetically half-siblings. I like the pairing, unfortunately it seems like Kikittenmoto doesn't want to explore they Hyuuga family any more.

All I'm saying is that I don't ship it nor I don't mind if it does happen, but we'll see. The thing is that Kishi has made Neji peeping Hinata like a normal thing, according to him. When that happened, I was a bit shock to think that he's considering this. I'm not saying it, he is. Also, anime is really pushing this idea with them all the sudden or more like didn't have the time since well, there wasn't any room for it, so this is their chance now. It's all on Kishi's call now for this one.

As for the Hyuuga, it would seem that it was only treated as an ideal that they are a special clan that once has a very strict policy, hence the main branch and serve the purpose for that one scenario (Neji and Hinata's conflict). I am aware of the eye ability, but I don't think Kishi is going further with them anymore. Think about it, we only explore with them back in Chunnin Exam and that was the end of it. The main problem was the fact that they had a policy that really separates them into two. It's hinted that the clan has changed into a more peaceful manner, hence Neji and Hinata teaming up and Hinata's dad telling his brother that time has changed. So, knowing this theme is about surpassing the old generation, Neji and Hinata will surpass by creating the whole clan as equal as Hinata will be the heir as Neji is her right hand man. That's what I see.

[redragon88]

Well... Incest is illegal pretty much everywhere, but cousin marriages are not. However, they are still extremely rare. I don't know why it seems common in anime, perhaps it is the temptation of forbidden fruit?

In Neji and Hinata's case, if it were in life it would possibly be illegal too. Remember, they are genetically half-siblings. I like the pairing, unfortunately it seems like Kikittenmoto doesn't want to explore they Hyuuga family any more.

That's pretty much it. In fiction it's hot, in real life not so much.

It's not even about the incest, it's about wanting what you can't have. That's the same reason Romeo and Juliet became so famous. Coincidentally, the Rock Lee anime had a scene with Neji and Hinata impersonating those precise roles, Nejio and Hinaet.

[TouKen4Life3g]

That's pretty much it. In fiction it's hot, in real life not so much.

It's not even about the incest, it's about wanting what you can't have. That's the same reason Romeo and Juliet became so famous. Coincidentally, the Rock Lee anime had a scene with Neji and Hinata impersonating those precise roles, Nejio and Hinaet.

Oh yeah, that's right. That's a big coincidence. Like I said, it's all on Kishi now for that. I don't know what's his mind, but the fact he made a movie that made Neji goes nuts to see her naked along with others, that got me by surprise.

[Nefertieh]

Oh yeah, that's right. That's a big coincidence. Like I said, it's all on Kishi now for that. I don't know what's his mind, but the fact he made a movie that made Neji goes nuts to see her naked along with others, that got me by surprise.

Maybe he's just acknowledging the popular non canon pairings? We did see Itachi hold Sakura in the movie, and apparently the reason why he made Kakashi save Iruka in the Pain arc was because of the popularity of KakaIru. Don't forget, this is from the guy that drew Sasuke/ Sai yaoi in his own manga.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Maybe he's just acknowledging the popular non canon pairings? We did see Itachi hold Sakura in the movie, and apparently the reason why he made Kakashi save Iruka in the Pain arc was because of the popularity of KakaIru. Don't forget, this is from the guy that drew Sasuke/ Sai yaoi in his own manga.

I'm not saying that he's making it canon. I'm just surprised the way he handled it is like saying "In fiction writing, cousins interest is ok." I know Kishi has been fanservicing once or twice for some non canon pairing and it doesn't change the overall story, so kudos for him on that part. All I'm saying is that he has the control to say what's canon for side characters' pairings IF he wants to write them in the epilogue. I have no control nor have intention to make out what's going to be canon for side characters. I only acknowledge he did fanservice for NejiHina. Just didn't expect something outside of normal sibling interaction.

[redragon88]

Maybe he's just acknowledging the popular non canon pairings? We did see Itachi hold Sakura in the movie, and apparently the reason why he made Kakashi save Iruka in the Pain arc was because of the popularity of KakaIru. Don't forget, this is from the guy that drew Sasuke/ Sai yaoi in his own manga.

Although I'm not a fan of anything related to yaoi I'll admit that I loved that scene because:

1) It showed that Sakura was as much of a pervert as Naruto. Even their perverted panels paralleled each other.
2) It showed that Sakura's attraction for Sasuke was more on a physical level than an emotional one.

I don't think that Sakura is meant to be so openly lustful with the image of Sasuke if he's actually supposed to be her true love interest. She should view her true love interest in a more unique and embarrassed way in that situation, but at that moment she placed Sasuke at the same value as Sai. I'm pretty sure she isn't in love with Sai, but that doesn't mean Sakura can't find him attractive. The same applies with Naruto and the naked girls from Konohamaru's jutsu.

In the end it only serves to demerit the validity of Sasuke being the one for Sakura.

It doesn't mean that she doesn't love Sasuke, she does, but I think that by the end of the series she'll understand that what she feels for Sasuke is different than what she feels for Naruto. She'll know that while she cares for both boys the type of love she has for Naruto is the one the makes her want to build a life with him, while the love she has for Sasuke is one the make her want to always be there for him just like Naruto does.

[PhenixElite]

I'm not saying that he's making it canon. I'm just surprised the way he handled it is like saying "In fiction writing, cousins interest is ok." I know Kishi has been fanservicing once or twice for some non canon pairing and it doesn't change the overall story, so kudos for him on that part. All I'm saying is that he has the control to say what's canon for side characters' pairings IF he wants to write them in the epilogue. I have no control nor have intention to make out what's going to be canon for side characters. I only acknowledge he did fanservice for NejiHina. Just didn't expect something outside of normal sibling interaction.

I also agree with the possibility of NEJIxHINA. The anime also seems to ship them in some kind like you often see in fillers.
Also its not that hard incest to be with your cousin. There are countries where marriage between cousins is allowed. Besides i couldnt see any other then a hyuuga with hinata, because i think it would be hard with the family tradition and the eyes are just weired.

Just imagine a little naruto with byakugan . NO!

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I also agree with the possibility of NEJIxHINA. The anime also seems to ship them in some kind like you often see in fillers.
Also its not that hard incest to be with your cousin. There are countries where marriage between cousins is allowed. Besides i couldnt see any other then a hyuuga with hinata, because i think it would be hard with the family tradition and the eyes are just weired.

Just imagine a little naruto with byakugan . NO!

it would be the end of the uzumaki clan lineage ;_;

[TouKen4Life3g]

@redragon88: Couldn't agree more. She can stay loving Sasuke for the silly crush she had start off with, or go with Naruto who actually bring fantasy wish into reality if you just walk with him.

@dovahkiin and PhenixElite: Lol. Well, this is going to sound biased, but I always feel like Naruto marrying a Hyuuga would just make the Hyuuga Clan superior, which I don't think that should be the case. Haruno is not a clan or if so, not a strong one, so marrying one wouldn't hurt at all and it will be like a new beginning like Rikudou Sennin. Seems like a fair win to me.

[Nefertieh]

I'm not saying that he's making it canon. I'm just surprised the way he handled it is like saying "In fiction writing, cousins interest is ok." I know Kishi has been fanservicing once or twice for some non canon pairing and it doesn't change the overall story, so kudos for him on that part. All I'm saying is that he has the control to say what's canon for side characters' pairings IF he wants to write them in the epilogue. I have no control nor have intention to make out what's going to be canon for side characters. I only acknowledge he did fanservice for NejiHina. Just didn't expect something outside of normal sibling interaction.

I'm not suggesting you're saying their canon. I'm saying Kishimoto has a weird tendency to throw a bone at the non-canon shippers, so the NejiHina fanservice is probably not too surprising.