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[Paptala]

That SK manifesto really was well done. I read it as well and look back at the manga, only to realize that pairing actually have a good shot of becoming canon if Sasuke needs to be with someone. I know I will have more to say once the reunion is complete.

Yep, my thoughts exactly.

Other than that, thank you for the feedback. I noticed that I didn't cover that much on NS, but my LAP is meant to be a counter-argument to the other pairings, as well as demonstrating the underrated pairing (SK).

Sometimes, the process of elimination is a very good strategy though, and it worked for the purposes of your LAP.

About Hinata in 559, well that's a good observation. That actually never occur to me. Well, the only hint of liking was that flashback thinking she was cute, but unfortunately for them, the whole family clan situation was in effect. Anyway, I was surprised about the movie take on that and it was made by Kishi. Again, incest in Japan is normal and I have seen anime done this, which I mentioned before, and guess what, it ended up being canon. The way it's going reminds me of FMA, only vice versa in terms of gender and not cousins. It doesn't need to be canon pairing, but I can see them ending up as Hinata being the heir as Neji is her right hand man. Again, reminds me of FMA. It is possible that Kishi did drop subtle hint in the movie, but of course, not going through with it. He even make LeeTen possible, which I wouldn't mind at all. All in all, it's something that epilogue can do. But I agree with you that these pairings are possible and Rock Lee does seem to push this a lot.

it was 559 - gah, i'm a horrible fan for not remembering the right chapter I really just started considering the possibility because the Rock Lee show pushed it pretty hard (and then i started noticing stuff from the manga, and then the movie, and yeah...). LeeTen is also pushed pretty hard by the Rock Lee show (imo) and was present in the movie too, but I can't recall that there have been any LeeTen moments in the manga (other than Lee jumping in after Temari beat her in the chunin exams).

I agree with the idea of epilogue. It's going to happen and most likely show Naruto with Sakura side-by-side. I could imagine that Naruto's room will have more additional pictures in the future. Like you will see his Team 7 picture, aftermath of the war picture, Naruto's wedding, and lastly, his own family. This is what I would love to see. It will be the best last page to close the long adventure.

Agreed - so you think that a FMA style of just snapshots makes for a better epilogue than a Harry Potter style one - at least in this story? As for myself, I'm torn. I think if I saw images of Naruto and Sakura's kids, I'd want to know their names and personalities and whatnot - but then it might just be best left up to the imagination and fun of the fans...

It's true. I'm one of them too, and I'm not Japanese. I approve this.

NH isn't really popular there. SS, on the other hand, is somewhat popular due to that bad boy criteria and what not, but I heard stories that it's been dropping as of late. NS is behind it and gaining closely. Either way, it's natural of these popular pairings because it seems that the main pairing is usually behind the fanfic ideas, such as SasuNaru and other mixtures you wouldn't guess. Inuyasha had this situation as well. It's normal. What surprising is the event that's going to take place in Japan solely based on NaruSaku. That's interesting to say the least.

Yep, NejiHina is more popular than NaruHina by quite a margin, and NaruSaku is more popular than both. SS, the last time I saw, is the most popular hetero pairing for the series.

Curious - where did you hear that SasuSaku's popularity was falling? Did you get that from a specific source, or do you just recall seeing it somewhere online?

I think another thing to consider also is what that pairing popularity poll was based on - did it actually require fans to vote (like the character popularity polls featured in SJ) or was it information collected through hits on Japanese search engines? Because if it is the former, than its likely that a large portion of the fanbase wouldn't be bothered to go out an vote.

Regarding the upcoming NaruSaku event: I think at least they will be selling NaruSaku doujinshi there; but other than that, I'm curious as to what the event will entail. It really is exciting to see something like this though - again, hopefully there will be a blogger or two from Japan that will be kind enough to share his or her experience in going there.

And I agree, I think it says quite a bit about NaruSaku's rising popularity over in Japan, and that to me, says all sorts of positive things, especially when coupled with the fact that the animation team also seemas to push NaruSaku so much and that Kishi's movie had so much NaruSaku. Perhaps over in Japan, it is obvious where the romance subplot is headed, and we're just behind the times in the west.

Edited by Paptala, 23 October 2012 - 02:36 PM.

[PhenixElite]

Yep, NejiHina is more popular than NaruHina by quite a margin, and NaruSaku is more popular than both. SS, the last time I saw, is the most popular hetero pairing for the series.

Curious - where did you hear that SasuSaku's popularity was falling? Did you get that from a specific source, or do you just recall seeing it somewhere online?

Hmm... Intresting. I think i will never understand how a pairing like SS can be the most popular one.
I mean maybe i could understand it a little bit till the mid of part one but since part 2 .

Maybe its because im male, but i dont know maybe girls like to nearly get stabed by badboys .

[narulsaku]

i am curious about why people like sasusaku. just because they look good together. or they are just boared of narusaku.or may be just pink and black is a good colour combo! why one would love some one that tried to stab her or him. man its just hard to say . what do naruhina and sasusaku think. naruhina isnt popular. but damn sasusaku is.

[Codus N]

I remember how Kishi said in an interview that he wasn't interested in writing romance with Shikamaru when asked about his relationship with "s certain kunoichi from Suna" , but I don't believe he meant it in a way that implied they wouldn't get together.

I think Kishi just meant to say that he wasn't gonna focus on how they would develop their relationship in the story, but instead he would simply show an epilogue of them being together (probably with Temari being all tsundere on him while he says how troublesome this is ). As for how they decided to get together, that will probably be up to the audience interpretation.

It's the same scenario with Asuma and Kurenai, Kishi didn't write any romance between them, he just put some teases here and there, and lo and behold, we suddenly find out that Kurenai was pregnant with his child.

I think that's what Kishi meant by not being interested in writing romance for Shikamaru, he would just put some minor hints and then show them together without going into specifics. Which is completely different from Naruto and Sakura since we will see every last bit of their development together.

My only regret about not seeing the development between them would be the Sand Brothers' reactions. If Kishi plays the overprotective brother card, it would be classic comedy gold.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yep, my thoughts exactly.

Sometimes, the process of elimination is a very good strategy though, and it worked for the purposes of your LAP.

That's my plan. I'm pretty sure everyone knows the whole ordeal with NaruSaku, so I didn't bother to go over multiple times. Besides, my LAP would have been longer if I did bring it up. So yeah, that was my plan.

it was 559 - gah, i'm a horrible fan for not remembering the right chapter I really just started considering the possibility because the Rock Lee show pushed it pretty hard (and then i started noticing stuff from the manga, and then the movie, and yeah...). LeeTen is also pushed pretty hard by the Rock Lee show (imo) and was present in the movie too, but I can't recall that there have been any LeeTen moments in the manga (other than Lee jumping in after Temari beat her in the chunin exams).

Agreed - so you think that a FMA style of just snapshots makes for a better epilogue than a Harry Potter style one - at least in this story? As for myself, I'm torn. I think if I saw images of Naruto and Sakura's kids, I'd want to know their names and personalities and whatnot - but then it might just be best left up to the imagination and fun of the fans...

Yep, NejiHina is more popular than NaruHina by quite a margin, and NaruSaku is more popular than both. SS, the last time I saw, is the most popular hetero pairing for the series.

Lol. It's okay, we all make mistakes. I had to check it myself to make sure I know what I'm looking at.

Yeah, I agree with you. Rock Lee show really pushed it and even Kishi decided to put his input in the movie, even though it's comedy. The fact is that he acknowledged that he has no problem with a cousin wanting to see his/her cousin naked; basically, incest is ok with him. As for LeeTen, well it's pretty vague but I guess Kishi and mainly animators like the idea of a girl being in control over a boy when being reckless. I remember Tenten asked Ino for Lee back in FoD and then proceed to shake him up to wake up with those comedy face. Oh, I remember that one moment where Lee was training very hard that even Gai couldn't keep up; then you see Tenten smiles at him. Other than that, there isn't much but at least animators are having fun with it. Canon or not, I wouldn't mind.

As for the epilogue, well I'm actually hoping for something similar to Shaman King (manga) or Major. In Shaman King, you see everyone in their older self talking about how much hell it was back then but managed to save the world. You get a kid who you know he's the son of the main character. By the end, you see the main character along with his wife, who is the heroine. In Major, well I couldn't find the manga, but going by anime, the main character plays the biggest game of his life while we see his wife, who is also main character, is in the hospital, about to give birth. Once the game ends, he returns to the hospital and his child was born. Then, we get to see his pictures on a desk showing the time progresses, which ends at his own family picture.

Kishi has many ways to do it, but I do think we will see Naruto, Sakura, and the rest grown up before closing the manga once and for all.

Curious - where did you hear that SasuSaku's popularity was falling? Did you get that from a specific source, or do you just recall seeing it somewhere online?

I think another thing to consider also is what that pairing popularity poll was based on - did it actually require fans to vote (like the character popularity polls featured in SJ) or was it information collected through hits on Japanese search engines? Because if it is the former, than its likely that a large portion of the fanbase wouldn't be bothered to go out an vote.

Well, it was long time ago, but I heard the vote was lowered in the following year. I don't know if it was true at all, but true or not, NS is definitely increasing. I don't know how the vote system, nor I am familiar with it. So yeah, I'm all blank here. I saw it here, but again, long time ago. I think it was here. I don't know. Sorry.

Regarding the upcoming NaruSaku event: I think at least they will be selling NaruSaku doujinshi there; but other than that, I'm curious as to what the event will entail. It really is exciting to see something like this though - again, hopefully there will be a blogger or two from Japan that will be kind enough to share his or her experience in going there.

And I agree, I think it says quite a bit about NaruSaku's rising popularity over in Japan, and that to me, says all sorts of positive things, especially when coupled with the fact that the animation team also seemas to push NaruSaku so much and that Kishi's movie had so much NaruSaku. Perhaps over in Japan, it is obvious where the romance subplot is headed, and we're just behind the times in the west.

I agree. I look forward on how well the event went. To think, NS is actually popular in Japan after all. Who should we thank to? The movie? The anime? The manga? Oh well, best to let be. It's good to know in some way how Japan sees NS.

Hmm... Intresting. I think i will never understand how a pairing like SS can be the most popular one.
I mean maybe i could understand it a little bit till the mid of part one but since part 2 .

Maybe its because im male, but i dont know maybe girls like to nearly get stabed by badboys .

i am curious about why people like sasusaku. just because they look good together. or they are just boared of narusaku.or may be just pink and black is a good colour combo! why one would love some one that tried to stab her or him. man its just hard to say . what do naruhina and sasusaku think. naruhina isnt popular. but damn sasusaku is.

Well it is popular because of bad boys. To be fair, this is before the event of stabbing. So who knows how they feel now. I still remember the angry Sasuke fans because of the movie. It has very little mention about Sakura, rather themselves (that's right). Well, there are couple of Naruto mention in there too, but the point is about Sasuke. Don't worry, it's normal for fans to go with a bad boy pairing. Otherwise, a lot of manga/anime would have different results if following the fans

[James S Cassidy]

Here is an interesting topic.

Do you think Sasuke would use Naruto's love for Sakura to manipulate him?

If you do, how do you see it playing out? If not, have a little fun and tell me if he did what would be a good way he could use it?

Personally, I am not sure, but if he did I foresee something similar to what Cell did to Gohan. He would want Naruto to fight the hardest using all his power to defeat him. Possibly even use the whole "If you don't go all out, how are you going to beat me?" The reason why I could see this is because Sasuke is very prideful and I know Sasuke will never take any less than the best. Sort of like how Madara is with his pride.

[redragon88]

Hmm... Intresting. I think i will never understand how a pairing like SS can be the most popular one.
I mean maybe i could understand it a little bit till the mid of part one but since part 2 .

Maybe its because im male, but i dont know maybe girls like to nearly get stabed by badboys .

Well, if I'm honest, I think that if Sasuke had been a girl (I guess her name would've been Sasuko) I would've shipped her with Naruto on the fact that their relationship is so intense and what mainly rides the entire series. But I guess that's why there are so many people ship them anyway even knowing that they're not gay.

Maybe people who like SasuSaku see it from a perspective as if Sakura was the main character of the story, therefore they ship it with the same view as if it was the relationship of Naruto and Sasuke if one was of a different gender with Naruto being the one in love with Sasuke (or in this case Sasuko )

I think people ship SasuSaku based on some sort of combination of the following:

- Influence about relationships based on western stories, movies, tv shows, etc.
- Influence about storytelling thanks to shoujo manga.
- Believing that for some reason Sakura fulfilling her fantasies (being together with Sasuke) is more relevant than Naruto (the main character) fulfilling his dreams.
- Not understanding that the message of the story (not giving up) is meant to be delivered by the main character. And by consequence believing that the message about love is supposed to be transmitted through the actions of the love interest instead of the hero.
- Not understanding that they're supposed to root for Naruto to get his love interest, not for the love interest to get together with another guy. They forget we should root for Naruto in all of his goals.
- Forgetting that these are not real people, their choices are controlled by a single real person (Kishi) for the purpose of communicating his message (never give up).

Edited by redragon88, 23 October 2012 - 05:27 PM.

[PhenixElite]

Well, if I'm honest, I think that if Sasuke had been a girl (I guess her name would've been Sasuko) I would've shipped her with Naruto on the fact that their relationship is so intense and what mainly rides the entire series. But I guess that's why there are so many people ship them anyway even knowing that they're not gay.

Maybe people who like SasuSaku see it from a perspective as if Sakura was the main character of the story, therefore they ship it with the same view as if it was the relationship of Naruto and Sasuke if one was of a different gender with Naruto being the one in love with Sasuke (or in this case Sasuko )

I think people ship SasuSaku based on some sort of combination of the following:

- Influence about relationships based on western stories, movies, tv shows, etc.
- Influence about storytelling thanks to shoujo manga.
- Believing that for some reason Sakura fulfilling her fantasies (being together with Sasuke) is more relevant than Naruto (the main character) fulfilling his dreams.
- Not understanding that the message of the story (not giving up) is meant to be delivered by the main character. And by consequence believing that the message about love is supposed to be transmitted through the actions of the love interest instead of the hero.
- Not understanding that they're supposed to root for Naruto to get his love interest, not for the love interest to get together with another guy. They forget we should root for Naruto in all of his goals.
- Forgetting that these are not real people, their choices are controlled by a single real person (Kishi) for the purpose of communicating his message (never give up).

Yes i think there are the points of it
Thanks!

[Paptala]

Hmm... Intresting. I think i will never understand how a pairing like SS can be the most popular one.
I mean maybe i could understand it a little bit till the mid of part one but since part 2 .

Maybe its because im male, but i dont know maybe girls like to nearly get stabed by badboys .

i am curious about why people like sasusaku. just because they look good together. or they are just boared of narusaku.or may be just pink and black is a good colour combo! why one would love some one that tried to stab her or him. man its just hard to say . what do naruhina and sasusaku think. naruhina isnt popular. but damn sasusaku is.

From what I've seen, the reasons for liking SS range from: Naruto's/Lee's a freak/too weird, so I'll pair her with hawt and cool Sasuke; to respecting that Sakura still loves Sasuke after all he's put her through and think that Sasuke needs someone like Sakura to be there for him after his redemption to heal him emotionally; some also just like the angst of the relationship.

My only regret about not seeing the development between them would be the Sand Brothers' reactions. If Kishi plays the overprotective brother card, it would be classic comedy gold.

lol that it would, especially Gaara's reaction - I would hope that Shikamaru can run fast, and that he's in an area away from Sand. Temari may want to appropriate Gaara's gourd and Kankuro's toys before breaking the news

Yeah, I agree with you. Rock Lee show really pushed it and even Kishi decided to put his input in the movie, even though it's comedy. The fact is that he acknowledged that he has no problem with a cousin wanting to see his/her cousin naked; basically, incest is ok with him. As for LeeTen, well it's pretty vague but I guess Kishi and mainly animators like the idea of a girl being in control over a boy when being reckless. I remember Tenten asked Ino for Lee back in FoD and then proceed to shake him up to wake up with those comedy face. Oh, I remember that one moment where Lee was training very hard that even Gai couldn't keep up; then you see Tenten smiles at him. Other than that, there isn't much but at least animators are having fun with it. Canon or not, I wouldn't mind.

Thanks - I thought I remembered something about Tenten smiling at him while he was training.

And yep, that's pretty much my stance on it. I'm not pushing for it to be canon, but I think its a pretty cute pairing and wouldn't mind if it did.

As for the epilogue, well I'm actually hoping for something similar to Shaman King (manga) or Major. In Shaman King, you see everyone in their older self talking about how much hell it was back then but managed to save the world. You get a kid who you know he's the son of the main character. By the end, you see the main character along with his wife, who is the heroine. In Major, well I couldn't find the manga, but going by anime, the main character plays the biggest game of his life while we see his wife, who is also main character, is in the hospital, about to give birth. Once the game ends, he returns to the hospital and his child was born. Then, we get to see his pictures on a desk showing the time progresses, which ends at his own family picture.

Kishi has many ways to do it, but I do think we will see Naruto, Sakura, and the rest grown up before closing the manga once and for all.

Interesting - I like the description of those epilogues (though I haven't read/seen either series), though the Shaman King one sounds more appealing to me. I definitely think an epilogue is likely showing them all grown and with families, starting the next generation.

Well, it was long time ago, but I heard the vote was lowered in the following year. I don't know if it was true at all, but true or not, NS is definitely increasing. I don't know how the vote system, nor I am familiar with it. So yeah, I'm all blank here. I saw it here, but again, long time ago. I think it was here. I don't know. Sorry.

No biggie, I was just curious is all. Either way, the evidence rather speaks for itself in that NaruSaku is gaining popularity in the West.

I agree. I look forward on how well the event went. To think, NS is actually popular in Japan after all. Who should we thank to? The movie? The anime? The manga? Oh well, best to let be. It's good to know in some way how Japan sees NS.

Probably a combination of all of the above

Here is an interesting topic.

Do you think Sasuke would use Naruto's love for Sakura to manipulate him?

If you do, how do you see it playing out? If not, have a little fun and tell me if he did what would be a good way he could use it?

Personally, I am not sure, but if he did I foresee something similar to what Cell did to Gohan. He would want Naruto to fight the hardest using all his power to defeat him. Possibly even use the whole "If you don't go all out, how are you going to beat me?" The reason why I could see this is because Sasuke is very prideful and I know Sasuke will never take any less than the best. Sort of like how Madara is with his pride.

That's hard to say - Naruto definitely wants to fight Sasuke, but if Sasuke tries to fight him and he still has other stuff going on (like maybe if Madara or Obito is still wreaking havoc), he may want to push the fight off for another time. Another thing could also be if he feels that Naruto is being too lenient with him, by not going for killing blows. Sasuke may take that as an insult, and that could provoke him into taking drastic measures.

Still, I think if I had to choose, I'd say its more likely that Sasuke wouldn't resort to using Sakura against Naruto. I think it would be more likely that Sakura throws herself in between them so they don't kill one another, and she just gets caught in the crossfire because Sasuke doesn't care about the people who get in way (see Karin).

Edited by Paptala, 23 October 2012 - 06:15 PM.

[redragon88]

From what I've seen, the reasons for liking SS range from: Naruto's/Lee's a freak/too weird, so I'll pair her with hawt and cool Sasuke; to respecting that Sakura still loves Sasuke after all he's put her through and think that Sasuke needs someone like Sakura to be there for him after his redemption to heal him emotionally; some also just like the angst of the relationship.

The bolded one would actually make complete sense if:

a) Sakura was the main character of the story, thus her resolve is the one we would cheer for
b) Her relationship and development with Sasuke was more focused on than Naruto's with Sasuke

The problem is that neither of the above are true.

Sakura and Sasuke are both each more correlated to Naruto than they are to each other. It's all about how Naruto's determination can change the perspective of his two most precious people. This is meant to culminate with Naurto getting Sasuke's true friendship and Sakura's true love, as he always wished for.

lol that it would, especially Gaara's reaction - I would hope that Shikamaru can run fast, and that he's in an area away from Sand. Temari may want to appropriate Gaara's gourd and Kankuro's toys before breaking the news

I understand Kankuro being a little annoyed at the beginning, but Gaara?

Gaara is like the most calmed guy in the series. If Temari tells him she's dating Shikamaru I think the only thing he would do is tell Shikamaru to please take good care of his sister. I don't even think his expression would change that much.

I actually think the Temari would be a little annoyed that Gaara didn't have much of a reaction about the situation.

[James S Cassidy]

That's hard to say - Naruto definitely wants to fight Sasuke, but if Sasuke tries to fight him and he still has other stuff going on (like maybe if Madara or Obito is still wreaking havoc), he may want to push the fight off for another time. Another thing could also be if he feels that Naruto is being too lenient with him, by not going for killing blows. Sasuke may take that as an insult, and that could provoke him into taking drastic measures.

Well, of course, but this isn't because Sasuke sees Naruto is busy and thinks "I'll just wait my turn." Otherwise, Sasuke would be attacking Konoha now while Naruto is preoccupied. I actually think Kishi wrote himself into a corner and stalling for time until he can get the Naruto vs Sasuke fight to a good point.

Still, I think if I had to choose, I'd say its more likely that Sasuke wouldn't resort to using Sakura against Naruto. I think it would be more likely that Sakura throws herself in between them so they don't kill one another, and she just gets caught in the crossfire because Sasuke doesn't care about the people who get in way (see Karin).

Okay, but let's say he did, what kind of moment do you see happening?

[TerrorKing]

Here is an interesting topic.

Do you think Sasuke would use Naruto's love for Sakura to manipulate him?

If you do, how do you see it playing out? If not, have a little fun and tell me if he did what would be a good way he could use it?

Personally, I am not sure, but if he did I foresee something similar to what Cell did to Gohan. He would want Naruto to fight the hardest using all his power to defeat him. Possibly even use the whole "If you don't go all out, how are you going to beat me?" The reason why I could see this is because Sasuke is very prideful and I know Sasuke will never take any less than the best. Sort of like how Madara is with his pride.

If think if Sasuke were to do something like that, it would either involve killing Sakura or just beating her to the point of where she would be near death and then use her to deliver a message that he's serious about his revenge. This could either be to make Naruto fight with his best or to taunt Naruto and make him lose focus.

A concrete example would be Sasuke "crucifying" Sakura similar to what Hidan and Kakuzu did to Yugito and then write some sort of message on her (got that idea from a fanfic).

I don't think it would happen, but ever since I read that part in the mange and read that fanfic I just haven't been able to get that idea out of my head.

[James S Cassidy]

If think if Sasuke were to do something like that, it would either involve killing Sakura or just beating her to the point of where she would be near death and then use her to deliver a message that he's serious about his revenge. This could either be to make Naruto fight with his best or to taunt Naruto and make him lose focus.

Possibly a bit of both. He doesn't have to necessarily kill Sakura, but just use her to get under Naruto's skin. Cell didn't necessarily kill any of his friends, but Gohan still got pretty pissed off when he used clones to beat them up savagely.

I wouldn't be surprised because Sasuke saw how much Naruto fought when Gaara threatened to kill Sakura if Naruto didn't beat him and if he really wanted to push Naruto to that point, it would be a great way to do it.

[Paptala]

The bolded one would actually make complete sense if:

a) Sakura was the main character of the story, thus her resolve is the one we would cheer for
b) Her relationship and development with Sasuke was more focused on than Naruto's with Sasuke

The problem is that neither of the above are true.

Sakura and Sasuke are both each more correlated to Naruto than they are to each other. It's all about how Naruto's determination can change the perspective of his two most precious people. This is meant to culminate with Naurto getting Sasuke's true friendship and Sakura's true love, as he always wished for.

Oh I completely agree - Naruto and Sasuke's and Naruto and Sakura's bonds are far more important to the story (showed by the fact that these are the two most emphasized team 7 bonds in the story), and of course, in the literary sense, Naruto has been set up to achieve everything he ever set out to do.

I also don't agree with that reason because Sakura hasn't remained completely true to Sasuke - she's been willing to give up on his redemption multiple times. Compared to her selfless loyalty and devotion to Naruto, her bond with Sasuke just leaves a lot to be desire (imo).

I understand Kankuro being a little annoyed at the beginning, but Gaara?

Gaara is like the most calmed guy in the series. If Temari tells him she's dating Shikamaru I think the only thing he would do is tell Shikamaru to please take good care of his sister. I don't even think his expression would change that much.

I actually think the Temari would be a little annoyed that Gaara didn't have much of a reaction about the situation.

lol that's certainly a possibility. I think that Gaara has come to care a lot about his siblings, so I can see him becoming protective of her if a guy suddenly starts dating her. But maybe that's just me

Well, of course, but this isn't because Sasuke sees Naruto is busy and thinks "I'll just wait my turn." Otherwise, Sasuke would be attacking Konoha now while Naruto is preoccupied. I actually think Kishi wrote himself into a corner and stalling for time until he can get the Naruto vs Sasuke fight to a good point.

That's sort of what I'm starting to think too.

Okay, but let's say he did, what kind of moment do you see happening?

I guess I can see Naruto saying some of his normal idealistic stuff around Sasuke ("you're my friend", "I'm going to save you", etc.), and Sasuke getting frustrated with him, by Naruto's refusal to get angry with him (I can see Sasuke thinking that Naruto is acting morally superior); so he looks and sees Sakura watching the fight from a far, and attacks her (perhaps with Amaterasu or some other long range attack) to try and make Naruto feel the same pain as him (he did say before that he was going to kill people's precious ones in order to make them understand some of his pain).

Edited by Paptala, 24 October 2012 - 04:37 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Thanks - I thought I remembered something about Tenten smiling at him while he was training.

And yep, that's pretty much my stance on it. I'm not pushing for it to be canon, but I think its a pretty cute pairing and wouldn't mind if it did.

Interesting - I like the description of those epilogues (though I haven't read/seen either series), though the Shaman King one sounds more appealing to me. I definitely think an epilogue is likely showing them all grown and with families, starting the next generation.

No biggie, I was just curious is all. Either way, the evidence rather speaks for itself in that NaruSaku is gaining popularity in the West.

Probably a combination of all of the above

Well, I do think Kishi kind of give it away that those who are not Team 7 will not get on-screen romance development. Bu that's just me. Yes, I am aware of others like Obito in his flashbacks, but they do serve a purpose and it shows. Plus, Kishi is only making a new parallel, so ironically, he's still connects to Team 7 in a hidden way.

Glad you like the ideas of these epilogues. I remember reading the last chapter and I thought it was a nice closure to the series. Glad that they gave the mangaka a chance to finish it. One thing I should comment and I do think it has happened a lot in anime/manga, and that is the rival/second main character either ends up alone (depending on the character) or ends up with someone who is a minor character. In Shaman King, which threw me off, the rival actually got together with this minor character who is known to be really strong. I forgot the names, but I should look it up. It came off shocking, seriously. But yeah, I don't recall any anime/manga that have second main character ending up with the heroine, though there must conditions for the main characters. I mentioned it long time ago. So yeah, take it what it is.

NaruSaku sure is getting popular and I am so happy to see it growing. I feel like Iruka seeing Naruto being cheered by Konoha's people. That's how happy I am. Combination of all of them helped NaruSaku? I'm good with this.

[narulsaku]

wow narusaku is so famous. in india i dont think that any pairing is. i think there are only between 100to 150 people see it including krazy and me. so guys i was just thinking that why is sasusaku is damn famous. i am not still clear.

[TouKen4Life3g]

wow narusaku is so famous. in india i dont think that any pairing is. i think there are only between 100to 150 people see it including krazy and me. so guys i was just thinking that why is sasusaku is damn famous. i am not still clear.

Well, it's like many people said already. The fact girls like the bad boy being with a girl, even if it's literally bad on its own. The fact Naruto is a goofball at the time, so why not pair up with a bad pretty boy. Girl likes that, even if it doesn't end up canon. To me, it's just fun and game. Nothing to be serious about. It didn't stop Kishi nor the anime studio.

[narulsaku]

thanks. hey do you think that kisi would show the complete NS family.

[TouKen4Life3g]

thanks. hey do you think that kisi would show the complete NS family.

Perhaps so. He seems like the person who likes to leave a message and high note. NS family will most likely appear. I can count on it.

[Codus N]

I understand Kankuro being a little annoyed at the beginning, but Gaara?

Gaara is like the most calmed guy in the series. If Temari tells him she's dating Shikamaru I think the only thing he would do is tell Shikamaru to please take good care of his sister. I don't even think his expression would change that much.

I actually think the Temari would be a little annoyed that Gaara didn't have much of a reaction about the situation.

That would also be funny. But I would think he'd react calmly to the news and giving them his congratulations....... all the while lacing it with subtle death threats XD.

P.S.: Terrorking, that's an awesome scenario. I'd love to see that happen.

Edited by Codus N, 24 October 2012 - 08:14 AM.