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[Sakura Blossoms]

Why would is it be prejudiced to note a certain pattern in the way the movie is casted? As I said, yes, it's more important for us to be able to buy these actors as the characters they play and how good a job they do, but the movie is clearly white-washed in favor of the protagonists so much that the one good fire-bender is white too!

If it doesn't bother you, that's fine. But no one here who's on the same page as me is saying "Screw this movie, I'm boycotting it, and whoever doesn't agree with me is racist!" We ALL hope this movie will be good, we ALL want to enjoy it; we just notice one flaw the movie already has when we shouldn't until we actually see it, and sadly one we've various times in several movies.



Can you show us these sites? I'd like to hear what they have to say!

Would you kindly *not* put words into my mouth, thank you. I don't recall saying at any point and I quote, "Screw this movie, I'm boycotting it, and whoever doesn't agree with me is racist!"

Also don't remember me saying anyone was racist.

And I'm really not interested into getting into a pointless debate about this. Enough people have already done so. But to at least answer your question of: Why would is it be prejudiced to note a certain pattern in the way the movie is casted?

I never said it was prejudice to 'note' anything. What I said was that it seemed kind of prejudice to not want to see a movie because the race of people you want to see in the movie weren't picked. To me it's a bit of a double standard. Agree with me or not, it really doesn't matter to me. Everyone has their own opinions and will stick to them, and I'm certainly not here to try to change anyone else's mind, as everyone pretty much has their minds made up on how they feel.

[No WhereMan]

Ok, just because I don't want to see Sakura-sama lay the smack down on this topic and close it, I suggest we leave the topic about the movie cast alone for the time being. We're obviously aren't going to come to a conclusion on this and I want this topic open so we can discuss how bad the film will be when it opens.


So can't we all just get along?

Edited by No WhereMan, 22 March 2010 - 07:42 PM.

[Sakura Blossoms]

Ok, just because I don't want to see Sakura-sama lay the smack down on this topic and close it, I suggest we leave the topic about the movie cast alone for the time being. We're obviously aren't going to come to a conclusion on this and I want this topic open so we can discuss how bad the film will be when it opens.


So can't we all just get along?

Lol, oh no worries I have absolutely no intention of closing this thread, and if other people want to type about this topic until their fingers cramp, that's their business. I am just not getting any further involved.

[No WhereMan]

/shrug

To be honest I was getting bored of the topic. It's not something we're ever going to agree on, regardless of whatever points either side makes. I just say give it a rest for the time being and wait till the movie opens then we can rip on it till our hearts are content. ^^

[blindeye]

DAMN YOU SHAMALAMA!

I really hope this is fake, but I doubt it. Hes butchering the series...

[catsi563]

meh not so bad. getting pronunciations right is perfectly acceptable. And the firebending things is also in tune with the rest of the series. Pairing down the humor is also understandable due to the nature of lvie action as opposed to animation given that you can do things with animation you cant even dream of doing with live actors.

[No WhereMan]

Yeaaaaaa.... I think I'll watch it when it comes to DVD.

[shadow_Uzumaki]

Eh, it doesn't bother me that much. The firebending thing makes sense, the pronunciation changes most likely won't bother me. Though I advise people to tell buddies who are both fans and watching the movie to show them this article so they know about the changes.

[Sakura Blossoms]

Eh, it doesn't bother me that much. The firebending thing makes sense, the pronunciation changes most likely won't bother me.

I agree.

[dokueki(venom)]

I think It's all right. Wasn't into it at first but it kinda grew on me. Actually I haven't seen all the episodes but I did catch the end. After all I do love epic endings. Other than that the only other shows I watch was Invader Zim and Wolverine & The X-Men. I still like the original X-Men though. I seen DB comericals on that. Are trying to restore the series. Oh! Right it supose to be an Avatar topic. Speaking of which I might see the movie no mater how corney it may be. Ahhh! Said too much. I ruined my Narusaku creabilty. J/k. Don't really care what people think. I weird. Except It! Don't forget you posted it. Just answering truthfully.

[Onionhead Attacks]

Oh bother... this will probably annoy me during the movie since I'm OCD about following details from the source material. But hopefully with this heads up, it won't be annoying me throughout the whole movie, but just part of the time >.>

[shadow_Uzumaki]

Well, here's how I think of it: Shyamalan's doing the opposite; instead of keeping the butchering pronunciations, he's adding in different pronunciations from his own culture because there are Hindu influences in the cartoon. So, it makes sense, somewhat. The inability to produce fire from chi and needing an outside source makes sense because most firebenders seen really are more of regular, rank-and-file soldiers, then The Dragon of The West Iroh comes and HE'S producing fire, and people might go.."Whoa, real badass master!" Hope they keep the Lightning manipulation in the series though.... The key thing is, this is a different, alternate universe interpretation of a different director, as are all adaptations of anything into a different medium, so keep an open mind and keep this separate from the show.

Edited by shadow_Uzumaki, 04 April 2010 - 12:45 PM.

[Dreamer]

I think the key here is "realism" , the director doesn't want it to be over the top super fantasy like the bad rep in DBZ Evolution. It makes more sense to tap into into the elements around you "Elemental Bending", instead of coming out of your mouth, hands, or rear-end. Just like Catsi said, there's so much more that you can pull-off in anime over live action, mainly because your appealling to a mixed audience of avatar fans and people who have no clue what this movie is about. They just have to make sacrafices on the fans behalf to find a medium for the other crowd. Otherwise people in the theatre will turn around and look at you like your crazy for getting mad when the movie seems great for those who never heard of it before, like my Marvel and DC fanself saw Sam Raimi drag Spiderman down, at least Nolan is doing it right.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 04 April 2010 - 01:46 PM.

[shadow_Uzumaki]

Indeed. Enough realism that it makes sense, hopefully not too much since for the most part, it IS a fantasy. Seeing Water Benders, Earth Benders, and Air Benders using the available environment around them but not Fire Benders may not make too much sense. Seeing master Fire Benders do it however, might make a bit of sense.

[Nee-sama]

Never really thought of firebending in that way, but it makes sense now that it's been pointed out. Even so, it gave them an advantage like having the comet around and it makes sense that they would be able to dominate the other benders with that advantage.

[socermania2]

This is the eternal problem with live-action remakes of anime: They either follow the source material, and alienate regular movie-goers, or sacrifice that and lose the hardcore fans.

I, however, think this is a good call on Shamalayans part.

[Dreamer]

This is the eternal problem with live-action remakes of anime: They either follow the source material, and alienate regular movie-goers, or sacrifice that and lose the hardcore fans.

I, however, think this is a good call on Shamalayans part.

I disagree not everything has to be one sided, It doesn't have to be just in black and white there's always different shades of gray.

[No WhereMan]

Wow, I thought you guys would have caught onto this sooner.



My only problem is that they gave away the ending (but then again, most of us here knew how it would end anyhow)

Also, before you all get excited about the 3D, let me warn you all that it seems to me that this was done post-production. Because they didn't film it in 3D in the first-place, that is going to cause problems for whatever is not in 3D, particularly when it comes to backgrounds (that is going to be a huge problem when the movie goes to the Fire Nation and the Northern Water Tribe if I'm right). So, if you're going to reserve tickets, I'd recommend seeing it in normal 2D format first, and wait until word of mouth if the 3D enhances or detracts from the movie. My favorite movie critics (Spill.com) noted that the 3D in Clash of the Titans actually made it look worse.

Honestly, I haven't really joined the 3D phase anyway. If I'm going to see a film, I'm going to see it, in 3D or whatever. Seeing it in 3D is nice, but I'm not going to a film only looking forward to seeing it in 3D. I mean, I've been seeing movies in 2D for over 25 years now. Just because 3D is the latest craze, doesn't mean it's going to solely affect my moving going experience.