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[GoNeKr@zY]

Oy, not one to be a party-pooper, but... can you people please stop bringing up the "Hinata is a Hyuuga so will never be allowed to marry outside the clan"?

While "logically", such a scenario could make sense, this is a shounen manga where Hinata and the Hyuuga clan in general are about "change." As such, if there were previous rules about the heiress not being allowed to marry outside the clan, then it'd actually work in Favour of NaruHina as Naruto will just rush in and save the damsel in distress. And it'd work since this is... you know... a shounen manga.

That said, I believe that the Hyuuga marriage system is a detail that Kishimoto will likely never bring up, simply because he has bigger things to worry about than:
- placing a 16-years-old (that's like... young)
- active shinobi
- into a forced arranged marriage plan
- which would require diverting a hell lot of attention from the main protagonist
- at a time when he should be concentrating on you know... Kyuubi, Akatsuki, the likes.

It'd simply take away too much focus off the main storylines, at a time when Kishimoto doesn't seem intent on giving much focus again on Any of the younger support cast, much less Hinata. Who's only 16 (ie rather young, for a shounen manga in any case, to be placed in such adult situations).

While it'd work in a shoujo manga, this isn't a shoujo manga.

Well....... Kishimoto DID mention that he will continue Naruto into the next generation...... So the Hyuuga marriage system is bound to come up once the manga reaches that point. Even if Naruto does rush to save people i doubt he would date someone to save them. Heck.... he's never showed any interest towards her in the first place(The Anime doesn't count as its all filler.) Last but not least...... Isn't a Shonen manga about the Boy getting the girl ? The only girl naruto has ever actively pursued (and is stil pursuing) Is Sakura... so i seriously doubt that NaruHina is a possibility at this point. Then again...... That is just my opinion.

[Nate River]

Actually, I agree with Mizura. While it makes an interesting issue to explore for fanfiction, I doubt Kishimoto does anything with it. While romance has been a piece of the series it is not the overriding concern. As Mizura said, to explore this issue takes away from the current plot threads, and, thus, at this point would really be a significant tangent. In addition, the romance element has been focused primarily on NaruSakuSasu, with only a little bit of attention paid to the romance of side characters..

Right now, Hinata is a side-character. Unless Kishimoto decides to force her to the forefront of the romance taking place and make her a serious contender for Naruto's feelings (which does not seem to be the care right now), I don't see how it becomes an issue. Even then I would expect him to spend only a little, if any, time on it because then it detracts from the action nature of the series. The missions and ninja element lose their focus, and romance becomes the overriding theme rather than just an element of the series. If NaruHina did becom series, I would expect the focus to remain almost exclusively on those two with only a little time spent on her family.

You have a point Crazy, but I still disagree. I suspect that when and if he does the next generation he completely sidesteps the issue or, at best, makes only a passing mention to it. It would be easy to simply have her married and have kids. At that point, he could simply assume that whatever Hyuuga problems there could have been are resolved in some matter (which is what I think he does). Or the Hyuuga kids become the main characters and the issue surrounding the parents fall into the background and are never mentioned at all. Once the next generation comes in the romance of the parents loses its importance and, thus, the Hyugga issues probably never becomes an issue. That is, unless a Hyuuga child somehow becomes a main player in the next generation romance.

While I agree with everyone that the Hyuuga are probably very involved in the marriage of their children, a long drawn out arc set on that issue does not fit with what he is curretnly doing in this series. Yes, I think they would be picky about who she dates and marries and would interfere with the selection. I also wouldn't be suprised to see incest take place either. I suspect similar things happened within the Uchiha clan.

From a debate standpoint, I wouldn't spend much time with this one. One for the reasons I mentioned above and, two, because its just speculation. Is it reasonable to assume they would interfere? Of course, it is. But we have very little evidence on this point, so not only is it tough to prove they do interfere, its even tougher to prove that Naruto does not measure up to whatever standards they set (something else on which we have no information).

[Hopestar]

Come on guys it's pointless talking about NH considering almost everyone (even some SS fans) know that couple is close to impossible. Besides it's not canon, since Team Kurenai makes the least appearance of all genin group I wouldn't bank my hopes into it. I really blame those fillers for giving NH fans any hope at all!
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I rather discuss or debate with SS than NH because it's actual canon couple that's worth talking about. I find it after debating with NH you find yourself wasting time! :yinyang:

[Mizura]

Well....... Kishimoto DID mention that he will continue Naruto into the next generation.

No he didn't. He said that he wanted to, but it was also mentioned that part 2 is the second half of the series. Overall, there is no guarantee for a "Naruto next generation", and I sure hope there won't be because of the risk of DBZ power inflation.

Another thing is plotline consistency. Even the elements of part 2 were present in the manga just about from the start:
- Naruto and Kyuubi
- Sasuke and revenge against Itachi
- Akatsuki ties into both the Kyuubi and Itachi aspects.

All of the above will be more of less delt with in part 2. Part 3 would be too much of random add-ons. And now that Naruto is about to get the equivalent of several decades of training, I doubt they'd make another time jump.

In the meantime, NaruHina still isn't impossible, but it'd likely be a rush-in near the end of the series as a consequence of SasuSaku. I doubt it'd get any real focus and development, meaning it'd just about have 0% probability of being written in a credible and interesting way.

[desaix]

Um, Kishimoto has also said that Naruto is only 20% complete, which means part two isn't exactly the 'second half.' It's more like the second fifth. Which means a 'part 3, 4, and 5' are quite possible. So, I'm fully expecting more time jumps, and a strong possibility of a next generation appearing. Part 2 hasn't been all about resolution of part 1's plots (has ANYTHING been resolved, yet?), and it's entirely possible that a 'part 3' conflict could be developed along the way. I mean, how is 'Root' going to be resolved?

[Pyroneko 28]

Um, Kishimoto has also said that Naruto is only 20% complete, which means part two isn't exactly the 'second half.' It's more like the second fifth. Which means a 'part 3, 4, and 5' are quite possible. So, I'm fully expecting more time jumps, and a strong possibility of a next generation appearing. Part 2 hasn't been all about resolution of part 1's plots (has ANYTHING been resolved, yet?), and it's entirely possible that a 'part 3' conflict could be developed along the way. I mean, how is 'Root' going to be resolved?

Really? I thought part 2 was supposed to tie up all the loose ends from part 1 that Kishimoto created. Now I'm just lost.

[GoNeKr@zY]

Well....... Kishimoto DID mention that he will continue Naruto into the next generation.

No he didn't. He said that he wanted to, but it was also mentioned that part 2 is the second half of the series. Overall, there is no guarantee for a "Naruto next generation", and I sure hope there won't be because of the risk of DBZ power inflation.

Another thing is plotline consistency. Even the elements of part 2 were present in the manga just about from the start:
- Naruto and Kyuubi
- Sasuke and revenge against Itachi
- Akatsuki ties into both the Kyuubi and Itachi aspects.

All of the above will be more of less delt with in part 2. Part 3 would be too much of random add-ons. And now that Naruto is about to get the equivalent of several decades of training, I doubt they'd make another time jump.

In the meantime, NaruHina still isn't impossible, but it'd likely be a rush-in near the end of the series as a consequence of SasuSaku. I doubt it'd get any real focus and development, meaning it'd just about have 0% probability of being written in a credible and interesting way.

Er..... where has he ever said that part 2 is the 2nd half ? Also....... SasuSaku has till this point been completely one-sided. I don't see SasuSaku happening at any point in the series. Truth be told i doubt he'll even end up getting together with ANYONE. He's a loner. Period. The only thing he cares about is revenge. And he'll do anything to achieve it. even if it means killing every single Ninja in Konoha (Yes.... that includes Sakura) if they get in his way.

Um, Kishimoto has also said that Naruto is only 20% complete, which means part two isn't exactly the 'second half.' It's more like the second fifth. Which means a 'part 3, 4, and 5' are quite possible. So, I'm fully expecting more time jumps, and a strong possibility of a next generation appearing. Part 2 hasn't been all about resolution of part 1's plots (has ANYTHING been resolved, yet?), and it's entirely possible that a 'part 3' conflict could be developed along the way. I mean, how is 'Root' going to be resolved?

I agree with Desaix..... almost nothing important has been resolved since Part 1 ended. Akatsuki is still active and busy collecting the Demons. Sasuke is still trying to get stronger to kill his brother. Orichimaru is still.... what exactly IS Orichimaru trying to do ? *pauses for a moment* never mind...... Naruto still wants to bring back Sasuke. What has been resolved ? NOTHING. Also..... isn't the story mainly about Naruto's struggle to be Hokage someday (And also about gettin the girl... but enough about that ) ? Do you honestly think he has the capacity or the experience in part 2 ? He's still a Genin for crying out loud..... so how can you say that half the series is over ? in my opinion..... Naruto seems to be a manga that might make DBZ pale in comparison when it comes to overall length. I guess only time will tell.... Meanwhile i'll just stay along for the ride......

[jmf]

sakusasu=crush
naruhina=onesided
narusaku= from a sakura hate naruto to in pt2 love naruto




hmmmm that could've been better i apoligize.

[Hopestar]

First does anyone here has any proof that there amybe an part 3 if you do then send me the the site otherwise I'll continue on the whole there's only 2 parts of Naruto belief.

[Daniee]

I'm pretty sure the only things we know about the future of Naruto are..

1. There's going to be a strong female Akatsuki member (Jump Festa 2006)
2. There may be romance (Databook 2, US Jump Interview)

I think there will be another timeskip, but only at the end of the series as an epilogue. After all, what fun would it be if we didn't get to see the characters fully grown?

[Hopestar]

*crosses arms and nods in agreement*
True that true that for sure Daniee.

[Mizura]

Er..... where has he ever said that part 2 is the 2nd half ?

He said it apparently in some interview. I'm not sure where, but on NF, it's commonly admitted knowledge.

On the other hand, I'm pretty certain he didn't say anywhere that Naruto is 20% finished. In fact, I don't remember him ever using percentages. The only time I've heard something close to this is some weird theory that the databooks or artbooks had been named so far according to a 5-syllable poem (or something like that), and people speculated that there might be one book per part. Except part 1 has 2 databooks.

Part 2 hasn't been all about resolution of part 1's plots (has ANYTHING been resolved, yet?)

- Will the Akatsuki plot be resolved? Most likely YES: they have an under 6 months deadline before completion of their jutsu. We've already seen 7 out of 9 Akatsuki.
- Will the "save Sasuke" plot be resolved? Most likely YES: there is also a deadline for Sasuke being possessed
- Will the Sasuke revenge plotline be resolved? Most likely YES: it will likely be taken care of at the same time as the Akatsuki plotline and the Orochimaru plotline.
- Will the Kyuubi aspect be "resolved"? Most likely YES again: resolution has already started now that Naruto is starting to reject Kyuubi, and it will likely be taken care of at the same time as Akatsuki's agenda.
- Will the "Hokage" aspect be resolved? 50/50. But honestly, I doubt they'll have an entire part JUST to show Naruto becoming Hokage: it's like... too much politics. Besides he can be shooed in as Hokage near the end just like Gaara became Kazekage: the fact that Gaara did become Kazekage takes away the meaning and challenge of showing Naruto working years more towards that goal.
- Are power levels about to reach their maximum soon? In my opinion Yes, again: Sasuke managed to handle 2 Anbus, Naruto and Sasuke. Naruto will match him by surpassing Kakashi, at least "in a ways." Even chuunins like Sakura are already being pit against Kage-levels in one way or another, and Akatsuki (plotline that will be resolved in part 2) likely represents the current max in power (kage-level as is).

I do not see a single aspect involving the main cast that will not be resolved in part 2. Kishimoto even went out of his way to impose Deadlines. And all these aspects have firm foundings in part 1, while part 2 hasn't introduced ANY new plotlines that could lead to another part.

Also..... isn't the story mainly about Naruto's struggle to be Hokage someday

Gaara is already Kazekage at age 15. Think about it. For Naruto to struggle much longer with it would look utterly ridiculous, especially if he already has full political support from some of the village's strongest (Tsunade, Jiraiya, Kakashi). What's more, it would be too much politics. Naruto will surpass Kakashi (in some ways at least) in just a few weeks, and Kakashi is already deemed to be the most powerful person in Konoha after the legendary Sannin by most. What's Naruto going to struggle on? Politics? Reading books?

[bloodwalker]

I have some theories that might have been mentioned before by others (I'm new in this forum, and I'm lazy reading all posts )

Before I begin, I want to make clear that this is only my opinion and my speculation. Maybe it will happen, maybe it won't. You can take this as they are, speculation, or as load of salt, crap or whatever.

Second. I'm not very familiar with the shounen series, so many of my ideas won't match at all. I just watch anime and read some mangas that I like and I find typical clichés.

I) Sakura-Sasuke:

We all know well Sakura's feelings towards Sasuke in Part 1, so there's no need to talk about it. From what I've read in Part 2, there's no solid proof that her feelings towards him have changed (She wanted to be stronger in order to do something instead of being a burden). The fact that she attacked Sasuke only poves that she understood that in order to stop and save him, they must fight him.

I agree that the group must save Sasuke so Sakura can trully meditate on her feelings and choose. The absence does not help to clearify one's heart.

If the group (I mean Naruto, Sakura and the others...) defeats Orochimaru and save Sasuke before a final showdown against Akatsuki (this is very possible), and Sasuke lives, the chances for a kiss between them is not low (just one kiss). And because of his luck (and a romance cliché), Naruto will watch that scene by accident. Come on, in Part 1, he watched Sakura hugging Sasuke, and she begged Naruto to bring Sasuke back, so this is possible.

In the end, I don't see the two of them as a couple. Sakura will understand that her love towards Sasuke has been replaced by Naruto.

II) Naruto-Hinata

No offence to the fans (Hinata is a nice character), but I find little hope on this. In Part 1 we've seen a one-sided love. In the Anime, Naruto ackowledges her, but he sees her as a good friend and a kind person, nothing else.
In Part two, if there will be romance in the series, there are chances that both of them could get along well, but still, Naruto won't be with her at the end. Following the romance cliché, Hinata is going to see Naruto's feelings towards Sakura and will understand, giving Naruto support.

The chances for a kiss are really low, but for a date is like 65-70% possible. Maybe Naruto won't see that as a date, but Hinata (and probably Sakura) will.


III) Naruto-Sakura

I believe there's little doubt that this will happen. It's a relationship that has evolved from a one-sided love from Naruto towards Sakura to what we've seen in chapter 297. In the anime, we've sen that she is getting along well with Naruto before he leaves Konoha with Jiraira.

However, It won't be that easy for the two of them to be together as a couple:

1. Even though they've matured, Naruto still knows that Sakura has feelings towards Sasuke. He doesn't know if Sakura has feelings for him yet, appart that she acknowledges him and they support one another in hard times. And if a kiss between Sakura-Sasuke happens, it will be harder for him to confess his feelings to her.

2. Because they haven't saved Sasuke, Sakura has not yet clarify her feelings. She wants to help Naruto in any way she can, that's a fact; but she hasn't realized yet how strong her feelings towards Naruto are. Yamato and probably Sai already can tell, now is up to her to realize it.

3. Naruto knows that he's the one that hurt Sakura when he was in four-tailed state. There's no proof that the wound has been healed, it will probably appear later and Naruto will surely notice it. If they save Sasuke. There are high chances that he won't let Sakura get too involved with Akatsuki becuse she might suffer, he can't control the kyuuby after all. Naruto wants to protect Sakura no matter what, even if he has to die. Orochimaru clearly said that Itachi is too strong and we don't know how powerful is the leader of the organization.

4. If Hinata appears in the picture (romance cliché, again), things could be harder for the relationship to happen.

[Hopestar]

Hey man the video was awesome!

[bloodwalker]

I think it was posted before so I deleted the link. That video is one of my favorites.

Ahh... Here it is

Everything for Sakura

[Hopestar]

There plenty other video deciations to NaruSaku on youtube. I watch on occasion otherwise I be watching Japs version of Naruto.

[desaix]

Er..... where has he ever said that part 2 is the 2nd half ?

He said it apparently in some interview. I'm not sure where, but on NF, it's commonly admitted knowledge.

On the other hand, I'm pretty certain he didn't say anywhere that Naruto is 20% finished. In fact, I don't remember him ever using percentages. The only time I've heard something close to this is some weird theory that the databooks or artbooks had been named so far according to a 5-syllable poem (or something like that), and people speculated that there might be one book per part. Except part 1 has 2 databooks.

Well, I could swear that I read somewhere he said that the story was only 'one fifth of the way through' or something along those lines, but I can niether remember a direct quote to search for nor can I find it looking in general, so I'll concede the point... for now. I still think you're mistaken, but I can't prove it.

Did I actually say nothing has been resolved? No. I just said nothing has been resolved YET, and doubted that part 2 was entirely about resolving the plot lines introduced in Part 1. I don't think, from your list, that the 'hokage' aspect will be resolved or that the kyuubi aspect will be resolved. Nor do I agree that 'no new plot lines have been developed' for resolution in a possible part 3 -- there were things brought up in Kakashi Gaiden that have never been resolved (Rin?), the whole Yondaime's relationship to Naruto thing (never brought up, period, beyond brief hints here and there that it WILL be brought up in the future), the 'Root' internal to Konoha, the 'what's going on with Shizune?' question, the way the council seems to be fighting against Tsunade. Then there's the whole promise to Konohamaru to 'fight him for the title of Hokage one day.' THEN there's the Kishimoto quote about wanting to take Naruto to the next generation...

Plus, at the VERY least, I can find a Wikipedia entry which paraphrases Kishimoto as saying Naruto is a 'long way' from completion. If Naruto is a 'long way' from completion, there is plenty of time to develop NEW plotlines. I've seen nothing -- and I mean nothing -- to make me thing Naruto is 'half over.'

P.S. -- 'common knowledge on NarutoFan' doesn't prove anything for me, especially when we're getting to rumors. I can't prove my one-fifth line (which I initially wrote as 20% because I couldn't remember the exact quote), but unless I see an ACTUAL statement from Kishimoto where he says part 2 is the 'second half' or something of that ilk, I'm not going to believe a rumor coming from Narutofan in this area. Heck, if I believed the rumors coming from Narutofan, I'd have believed the statement that Naruto and Hinata were on a date in Part 2 (which turned out to actually be Hinata saw Naruto and... fainted before anything was said)

[Pyroneko 28]

desaix, are you referring to the "I've put about 2/5 of I wanted to in" statement? I've heard that, but can't find an interview with that. I do remember reading Kishimoto saying he'd already done most of what he set out to do, and in part 2 was would do his best to tie up as many loose ends as possible.

[Hopestar]

Yeah and he even said he's including romance in part 2, however among all other possible couples NS is leading the most hints & moments by far.

[jmf]

it can be any couple just keep that in mind when reading the naruto chapters.