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[TouKen4Life3g]

"They went to HD years ago. They even did an omaka in the anime announcing it. It had Sakura and Tenzo as newscasters and Naruto blowing up part of his apartment's wall. I think it because of low budget, and the fact that they been working on Naruto for years they haven't updated their quality in years. So despite the fact that Boruto is in HD. The anime's quality is that of years ago when anime was just starting going HD (if it was wide screen then it went HD when anime started going HD as well, thing were going HDS often when they were also going wide screen). So it looks poor quality compared to newer anime (My hero academy, food wars ect) or anime that have kept up with the times (One Piece)."

Well okay then.

[T XD]

They aren't retconning the "bench scene". Nor is it owned by anyone? This is an entirely new thing and different situation.

We know. The information was corrected by Bail.

Edited by T XD, 26 July 2017 - 11:53 PM.

[VanitasDS76491]

Me too I mean Pan is just so damn cute, hell Super is making Pan even cutier and showing she can kick some ass when trained, which I do hope will happen.
 

Yeah it would be funny as that is what I get when I see Boruto he thinks that he is better than everyone which is like Sasuke and I hated that about Sasuke so damn much, so having him get kicked in the nuts like that would be cool.

Oh don't worry in team 7 ki ninja sasuke will get the nut punch by 18 and his legs broken like vegeta's arm, plus he might do what tfs did with goten in super 13 were he faded away in the future only It's Sarada fading away from Karin.

[ThroughWithLove]

 

You're still not understanding what interest -means-. To be interested is to want to know more about something or someone. I

 

 

 

Analyzer, my friend, there is no scuttling.

 

 

 

So I hear there's this show called Tenten. I don't know much about it, haven't watched an episode. I see an advertisement. A few things can happen: I can become interested, or I can remain indifferent. 

 

 

Watch this. I'll get you to scuttle even further. By determining that you are interested, isn't it true that you have made the following judgment about the show: The show is worth watching.

 

 

 

I hope this spells out to you why diction is important, your word choice continues to fail you. Scuttle by the way, not great word choice.

 

 

Of course it does. Any word choice that in any way shape or fashion besmirches the great analyzer-sama or the Naruto franchise is poor diction and self-defeating. Perhaps I should instead say you're scuttling towards the truth? You're gushing closer to reality? That the only thing that can possibly eclipse the resplendence of the Naruto series is analyzer-sama's boundless brilliance of voluminous proportions. That better?

 

 

The next questions I will give my opinion on: They probably have given a lot of time, but the execution of this is still not easy. The first arc is done well enough, particularly towards the end, that there isn't a question of time spent on mulling, but modifying their execution. 

 

As for the second part, Darkness is really subjective here, but in this case, it risks making Boruto unlikeable to their target audience. Risks, mind, they could keep at it. But the show's tone in general is brighter, so having Boruto kill will clash with it, and since it is their goal, its not a good idea. At some point, this tone I assume will change a little bit. 

 

Why is it still not easy? What is hard about making a series that does not retread upon the grounds of its predecessor? The idea I mentioned of a story told from a squad leader's standpoint could've easily been tried here. Or hell, why not have a main character who is a magnificent bastard and has big plans for the ninja world? Of course, I know the answer, but it's rather cynical.

 

As for the second part, I don't really see the big deal with focusing on the Seinan audience as opposed to Shounen one since much of the original audience has grown up watching the original series. The only issues I see with giving us a more mature series is that it would be at odds with the cash grab mentality (which is to make money on the previously tried formula and get as much as you can before it dies).

 

 

 

All of these outlets sort of came in later, and we understand how our culture takes these in, but not theirs. There was shipping interest, that we can infer they were aware of, but why narrow it if your idea is a "cash grab"? This is why a shipping argument for money on the Last is laughable, at most. 

 

Tumblr, youtube, and social media in general are worldwide sensations that have been around for quite some time. I could cite a plethora of works from the Naruto doujinshi community. I also remember a NH youtuber commenting on how he met Kishimoto and how Kishimoto admitted to watching his videos.

 

 

 

As for the last part, it's still not lamp shading. The issue at hand is the interpretation of the "Shadow Clone" rules. The question to determine is ultimately if that interpretation is too rigid, or if the issue can be made more clear. And that, can be debated forever, though likely, it is a bit of both, it can't ever hurt to be more clear (usually), but it's also likely the interpretation is not spot on. 

 

 

 

You haven't shown us anything in the interpretation of the "Shadow Clone" rules that is ambiguous. Instead, you've opted to add rules of your own that have absolutely no basis in the original series (that the clones mere presence puts a strain on Naruto) solely for the sake of trying to fill up this plot hole.

Edited by ThroughWithLove, 27 July 2017 - 03:26 AM.

[Illnevergiveup3]

are they really trying to retcon the NS bench scene? One thing they fail to remember before retconning scenes is that it's already in print where EVERYBODY can go back and see it.

[Bail o' Lies]

are they really trying to retcon the NS bench scene? One thing they fail to remember before retconning scenes is that it's already in print where EVERYBODY can go back and see it.

 

Just finished watching the episode. No. It is a bench at the sea. Though it could be trying to subtly to blatantly trying to rewrite Naruto, by having SS have a bench scene which Sasuke forgot about that wasn't Naruto transformed as Sasuke having a NS moment.

 

Here I had this on another topic also it less a retcon as an overwriting it: "When you look at the episode it might be possible that even the people working on it don't think that those two scene were positive for SS. But that why they are trying to overwrite it with this scene to make sure that those scene are now seen as positive SS scene.

 

Let see Chapter 3 had Naruto turn into Sasuke and compliments Sakura causing her to fall in love with Sasuke.

 

Sasuke leaving the village had Sakura trying to uses the previous scene and the belief that Sasuke has hidden feelings for her to make him stay. The problem with that is Sasuke had no idea what she was talking about and had no hidden feelings for her. So because of that nothing she said or did would convince Sasuke to stay with her.

 

This episode wants us to ignore the fact that Sasuke never around, never contacts her, never spends time with his family, never met his daughter, may not even think about her, and focus on Sakura's undying unyielding uncompromising devotion towards him ignoring everything else, because it doesn't matter if Sasuke loves her on not she fine with just waiting for him for all eternity. And if she fine with that why should anyone have a problem with it?

 

It then wants to retroactively make the first scene the start of that undying love and the second scene is what important to take away from it is Sakura's undying love for Sasuke ignore what Sasuke feels or if he is even in the scene."

 

They are overwriting what those scenes meant with this episode. They are not outright retconning it but instead trying to change the meaning of the scenes by having this scene imply something else.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 27 July 2017 - 04:29 AM.

[ThroughWithLove]

What Plot hole? There is none. It's still well established what the Shadow Clones can and can't do. You ask why he can't do this all the time, but the answer shows him doing it all the time, and that strain/fatigue/inability to get away from work as much as Bolt wants happens. He still can come home early sometimes, as we see in the Anime, but it's not an often occurrence. This is the problem, and yes, we know Naruto and Boruto work through this. But no, there is no plot hole. Again, it's a mis-reading of what is established, thus you have created your own plot hole, within your own reading.

 

Analyzer-sama, your argument in a nutshell is "Because Boruto establishes that the Shadow clones operate in X fashion, they operate in X fashion, thus there is no plot hole when taking into account the original Naruto series." By this logic, there is no plot hole in ANY story. You have in essence told us that what is explained afterwards is to be accepted and never questioned. This is why I accuse you of using fanboy logic. Rather than show us how Shadow Clones are consistent with the original series, you simply say "Nope, no plot hole. We are to accept what is established in Boruto and that's all there is to it!"

 

 

The first part is just sarcasm. As you've gone to mockery, I assume you have nothing more to add to that point, though I will note you do not understand what scuttling is. To re-explain what you either do not understand or missed: I'm Interested, I can say the show is worth watching, but that does not mean I like the show, because I haven't watched it. Oh, now I've watched some episodes, hey, I like this show. Hey, this is what Analyzer is saying this whole time! Now I understand.

 

Mockery? Never. Believe or not, I'm actually quite fond of you! You remind me of a younger version of myself. Back when I would dally in this routine you've got going on this forum. But that was before I discovered that there are just so many better ways to spend your free time and so little point in frequently engaging in these online back-and-forths with invisible people.

 

 

Or so I hope, but you haven't so far.

 

And here's what you're missing. By declaring that you are interested in a show without having watched it, you have declared that the show is worth watching. In other words, you've judged the show without watching it. You thought word-games like interchanging "like" with "interest" would matter, but it doesn't. You've conceded the point and have demonstrated that you have no grounds for attacking me for reaching the inverse conclusion about the Boruto series: That it's not worth watching. A judgment we're in full agreement can be made without actually watching it.

 

 

 

As for the second point about being easy, well, simple: Try to make your own successful work. Heck, try to write a work in general. Your first draft will be awful. Your Final Draft, will still have you wondering if its good enough, as its possibly published in note-worthy or not-noteworthy publications. Your middle drafts will be obliterated by editors. Writing in general is not easy. Not going back to what worked super well and got you so successful, is not easy. To you, it's "easy", but you aren't at the helm, nor have put in all the hours. So yes, it's very subjective, but here I will give credit to the author in his achievement, which we judge without going through.  I can see that weight, and will acknowledge its difficulty.

 

This is one big non-sequitur. We were not talking about the difficulty of getting your material published. We were talking about the ease of coming up with ideas that Boruto's predecessor has not already treaded upon. Execution is not really an issue as we have a full body of contemporary animes/mangas to work from and to ascertain what has worked and what hasn't. You have yet to tell us anything that would make a Boruto series with the ideas I've recommended as being too difficult to execute. And all of this stuff about how publishing works is an attempt to beat around the bush. I can give you a much better, albeit cynical answer for why the Boruto isn't willing to try innovative ideas than what you've explained to us.

[ThroughWithLove]

 

Hey guess what, different circumstances, so it works. Yes, by what it establishes, as it adds rather than contradicts, it's not a plot hole. Glad we are on the same page here, now.

 

As for the next part, I don't mind? It passes time at work. So no complaints.

 

On the third part, you're still not getting it. I am judging what I have seen as interesting, only what I have seen! Not the show itself. That is why your argument is still wrong. Hopefully you understand now though.

 

On the last part, you can come up with brilliant ideas.

 

But executing them is what makes a difference between a writer with ideas, and a successful writer. That's why your ideas are, well, just that, ideas. We can analyze and think they will work, but until tested, they are just ideas.

 

1. So just for the record, using shadowclones to learn years of highly technical information in a single day and using them to fight a war compromising of various heavily technical opponents is a-okay. Using them to do mundane office work is not a-okay since it's a different circumstance, thus in no way creates a plot hole.. Glad we cleared that up.

 

2. Okay.

 

3. You flat out said "I can say the show is worth watching!" You've admitted that you can determine that the show is worth watching without seeing it. You gave the example of an advertisement (which is far less than what I used to determine Boruto is not worth watching) to determine whether you'd be interested in watching the show (i.e. have not yet watched it). We're in full agreement! You've been a great help in helping me flesh out this point. Thanks! 

 

4. Again, you're trying to beat around the bush here. We've got an entire body of contemporary animes and manga to know what works and what doesn't. The Boruto staff is comprised of professionals who presumable understand the editing process (or else we have ourselves yet another problem with this show). What exactly makes it too difficult for them to attempt some truly innovative ideas like the ones I'm suggesting. Don't tell me about the inner machinations of the editing process. Be specific and tell us why Boruto refuses to stand on its own legs. The reason is pretty straightforward.

Edited by ThroughWithLove, 28 July 2017 - 03:52 PM.

[Bail o' Lies]

 

1. So just for the record, using shadowclones to learn years of highly technical information in a single day and using them to fight a war compromising of various heavily technical opponents is a-okay. Using them to do mundane office work is not a-okay since it's a different circumstance, thus in no way creates a plot hole.. Glad we cleared that up.

 

2. Okay.

 

3. You flat out said "I can say the show is worth watching!" You've admitted that you can determine that the show is worth watching without seeing it. You gave the example of an advertisement (which is far less than what I used to determine Boruto is not worth watching) to determine whether you'd be interested in watching the show (i.e. have not yet watched it). We're in full agreement! You've been a great help in helping me flesh out this point. Thanks! 

 

4. Again, you're trying to beat around the bush here. We've got an entire body of contemporary animes and manga to know what works and what doesn't. The Boruto staff is comprised of professionals who presumable understand the editing process (or else we have ourselves yet another problem with this show). What exactly makes it too difficult for them to attempt some truly innovative ideas like the ones I'm suggesting. Don't tell me about the inner machinations of the editing process. Be specific and tell us why Boruto refuses to stand on its own legs. The reason is pretty straightforward.

 

1. Like I said the only real excuse for Naruto not to use his shadow clones to do paperwork is that it would look bad if the Hokage was never truly at his desk working. As a good example of one of his shadow clones intelligence look at his fight with  A's father the Third Raikage. Also in thee Boruto anime he has had discussions with his shadow clones several times already to figure stuff out. So even in the anime she is trying to defend it shows the shadow clones are as intelligent as their creator.

 

3. Well it seems that my nicknames that she keeps getting moral indignant about are a good thing because it finally gives her a reason to watch the show she has been lecturing us to love without question.

 

4. The reason they don't do anything new is simple their no interest in trying anything new in the entire staff. The ones that wanted nH are still happily enjoying the afterglow. The rest are putting in the same quality of work they been doing since the Naruto manga ended, if not since the start of the war arc.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 29 July 2017 - 09:36 PM.

[ThroughWithLove]

 

1: I see you aren't understanding what I am saying, insisting that the former contradictory ideas of shadowclones cannot be added onto in anyway, which is your error in processing this.

 

There we go. And that's no error.

 

 

3: Still not understanding. I can say a show is -worth- me giving it a watch based on its advertisement, which drew me to be interested in watching. I -cannot- say a show is worth the watch based on its quality, however, as I have not watched it. I'm not sure how this helps flesh your point.

 

The discussion was whether you could judge the show without watching it, period; not whether you judge the show based on the quality of each episode without watching it. In other words, try something else.

 

 

1. Like I said the only real excuse for Naruto not to use his shadow clones to do paperwork is that it would look bad if the Hokage was never truly at his desk working. 

 

 

Supposing that's true, I've got an even better idea. Real Naruto sits in his office with his feet kicked up on the desk while 200 shadowclones finish an entire day's work in 20 minutes, no different than how we saw them used during the Hidan & Kakuzu arc. Naruto then dispels the clones, eats a bowl of ramen to refresh himself and then heads home. There, now there's no excuse. 

 

 

 

4. The reason they don't do anything new is simple their no interest in trying anything new in the entire staff. The ones that wanted nH are still happily enjoying the afterglow. The rest are putting in the same quality of work they been doing since the Naruto manga ended, if not since the start of the war arc.

 

 

Yeah, without Hinata in the picture, SP has kind of lost their muse. Maybe they'll introduce a Hinata expy to compensate.

[Bail o' Lies]

Supposing that's true, I've got an even better idea. Real Naruto sits in his office with his feet kicked up on the desk while 200 shadowclones finish an entire day's work in 20 minutes, no different than how we saw them used during the Hidan & Kakuzu arc. Naruto then dispels the clones, eats a bowl of ramen to refresh himself and then heads home. There, now there's no excuse. 

 

Yeah, without Hinata in the picture, SP has kind of lost their muse. Maybe they'll introduce a Hinata expy to compensate.

No, that still wouldn't work because he has to be at his desk if something happens so he can deal with it...granted he could just get a pager or a cell phone. Now if it's at the end of the day he could just use the clones to finish off his work and I don't think anyone would blame him. But at the end of the day all this is just so they could give Bolt some angst. So once they pass the chunin exam they will probably start using it. So he can be the perfect husband to Hinata-hime-sama no Kami no Tsuki.

 

They already have, "Sumire the Clone" who they wanted to be the new love interest, but the manga team wanted to stay with Salad. So now she is a background character, for now. 

[Kagomaru]

No, that still wouldn't work because he has to be at his desk if something happens so he can deal with it...granted he could just get a pager or a cell phone. Now if it's at the end of the day he could just use the clones to finish off his work and I don't think anyone would blame him. But at the end of the day all this is just so they could give Bolt some angst. So once they pass the chunin exam they will probably start using it. So he can be the perfect husband to Hinata-hime-sama no Kami no Tsuki.

 

They already have, "Sumire the Clone" who they wanted to be the new love interest, but the manga team wanted to stay with Salad. So now she is a background character, for now. 

Oh God, they've already made a Hinata expy for Boruto?  

[James S Cassidy]

The ending was not great. I respect NH greatly more than SS. NH did need some more screen time because it barely got any in the grand scheme of things despite the big moments it had. Hinata needed to be more of a factor because no matter what she was never a heroine in the story and didn't have half the time she needed to be one. Naruto did get with a side character. NS did make more sense and I thought would lead to a better, more interesting and smoother story then what happened but it didn't. It ultimately was his choice in the end no matter if he had influences or not. I just hated he left NS out to dry without how it fell apart in the story and better closure but you guys have already talked about that in other posts.

NS wasn't the only couple he left out to dry. Practically every couple, character, and plot lines were left out to dry so...."Hinata can have her moments." Sasuke and Karin got butchered so much. I mean, literally you can writer out Team Taka and nothing would change. That is how useless they were.

The only pairing that didn't get shafted too hard was Shikamaru and Temari. Although, they did get somewhat shafted in being that it just "happens off screen."

How funny is it that Kishimoto once said that Shikamaru was never going to be in a romance or in a relationship and yet ShikaTema is the only couple that 100% of the fandom agrees with. Maybe Shikamaru should have been the main character. He achieved everything he wanted and he did it with so little effort that it is scary. he got his revenge so quickly against Hidan who killed his mentor that it makes Sasuke look lazy. And this is the laziest person in the entire series.

I could also say Rock Lee as well, but his story got so ambiguous that I am not sure who the mother is.

[Bail o' Lies]

The shikamaru light novel was one of the first that came out after the ending. The thing is most people don't care or read the light novels so they might as well gotten together off-screen.

[BlackShirtGuy]

I wonder when this is gonna end, this anime and manga are nothing but a cashgrab for pro-enders, everyone in Japan doesn't give a kitten about Naruto anymore, which makes sense after all the bullshiet with The Last, do you think this will even reach the timeframe from where the manga startetd?(the burrito and tattoed guy fight) because as I see things, there  is a lot to happen yet unless, (which will probably happen I  bet) end of the boruto movie arc, and timeskip. I mean,  I don't know much, but from what I read the ratings and sells just drop. I wonder if it can get SO bad that it will be cancelled, that would be pretty damn hialrious xD 
This series has nowhere to go on really, the characters are way too powerful since the war arc, what's next Naruto saved the village, then the ninja world, so what does Burrito is gonna save the kittening galaxy?? And then his Daruto gonna save the universe??

[BlackShirtGuy]

 

You're going to have to keep watching to find out.

 

Also why was the Last so successful, and the following movie even more so, if no one cared about Naruto anymore? Do you see where this statement is extremely questionable?

You don't waste anytime do you? The only reason I watch Boruto is for laughing about how bad it is, also The Last sucked I've even saw NH fans saying it was awful, and that they prefer have their own flipping "headcanon" than the TRUE canon of the series for how his/her couple got together.
This anime is just a cashgrab, like it or hate it, accept it, let it go and move on. I'm a really fan of DB Super but I know it's just pure fanservice and a cashgrab for longtime nostalgic fans but at the very least DBS never kittened on their characters developments and personalities, soooo it's better.

I think James said it best in one of his podcasts, "I don't care what happens at the end of the series anymore, because you know what? No matter what happens, It's all gonna change in a moment with a pen stroke, Just redrawn"

Edited by BlackShirtGuy, 03 August 2017 - 01:37 AM.

[Nostradamus]

Contrived and Retcon aren't understood much on these forums either, often mis-used.

 

For example, Naruto and Sasuke being actual brothers is a bit contrived, as we already have them established being brother like, and Kishimoto is just really adding up another layer of, oh, they're actual, resurrections of the Sage's boys.

 

Retcon however, I would avoid entirely, as that is just mis-used horribly on this forum.

 

As for your response:

 

It wasn't all for nothing? The Plot was about Naruto gaining acknowledgement, and in a sense, Saving Sasuke and him conceding victory (More so conceding that Naruto was right, and a wish to do the right thing now), was the final part. He had gained Sasuke's acknoweldgement, and like the others, he was on his side. Sure, he got punished, and he now does a journey to redeem himself, but the circumstances are entirely different, and he now helps keep Konoha safe, and has returned to it a few times in the course of his redemptive journey.

 

It's not a perfect example of how to "Destroy your sthttp://www.narusaku....6012&page=23ory".

 

You're also incorrect about analysis. Quality is based on certain rules and subjective entertainment enjoyment, which cannot be equally measured between people, nor can the objective weights of objectively good writing be measured equally.

 

Finally, all writing "rules" can and have been broken purposefully, and good writers can and do do this. So holding them up to the weight of rules is foolish, as in the Creative World, the sole rule is making art and enjoyment.

Sorry, but you're the one that doesn't understand what retcon and contrived mean. Here what they actually mean.

Retcon is a shorten word for retroactive continuity, it's basically changing or re-writing what happened before in most of the time ends up in a contradiction.

The contradiction itself might be no big deal, or it could be huge. But it's the impact of that change which will always alter the universe in a bad way.

Contrived is something that just by looking at what was told before and whatever is introduced, you realize it was not planned at all.

Contrived these days is also known as an asspull, because the writer pulled it out of his or her's arse. It came out of nowhere. There was no indication prior to it of something like that existing in that universe.

 

Your example, Naruto and Sasuke are not actual brothers, so I presume you mean the either their connection to the Uchiha and Senju clans or the Ashura-Indra reincarnation.

That's partially contrived, but only the reincarnation part of it. The fact that they were related through the Uchiha and Senju bloodlines was actually showed and mentioned a bit way back in part 1. It was hinting at something going on. So when Tobi revealed to Naruto that he has a connection to the Senju-Uchiha war. that was actually hinted before.

What was contrived was the bs reincarnation because it came out of nowhere. Having a connection to those two clans, and being a reincarnation of someone else are two different things.

 

Naruto's ending is the perfect example of how to destroy a story. The entire journey was rendered pointless.

If I write a story about a father wanting to save his dying daughter, and the only way to save her is to get her special medicine from a hospital but the father doesn't have the money for it, so instead he decides to steal from the hospital.

So the plot for my story is a father wanting to save his daughter. If I ended the story with the father stealing the medicine and heading towards his daughter, but just before he can get to his house, he stops at a bar and spends the rest of life there drinking, and that's how the story ends. Then I destroyed my story, I destroyed the plot. The entire journey for the father and for you as the reader/viewer was for nothing.

 

If however I would've made it clear throughout the story that the story is actually about moving on and letting go, and realizing that not everything is in your control, and in the end the father let's go of his daughter. I wouldn't have destroyed the theme, or plot, or the journey of the fictional character and wouldn't have wasted the readers/viewers time.

Because I made it clear throughout the story that even though the plot was about saving the daughter, the theme however was about moving on and letting go.

Something that Kishi never did. He made it absolutely clear and said it a million times until he drove it into the freaking ground that it's all about saving Sasuke, and nothing else matters. Cue Metallica song.

 

You keep talking about subjective without understand what that word means.

Subjective analysis as you keep using it is based on your personal beliefs or feelings, not facts.

Objective analysis is not influenced by your personal feelings or opinions, but by instead looking at the facts.

 

For example let's not use stories for this.

If a company makes a chair that has three legs and I have to review it. And whenever someone sits on it, one of those legs brakes and the person sitting on it falls to the ground.

If I say I like the chair, that is my opinion. That's my subjective review. Because that's not the way a chair should be made.

A chair should not be made for one of its legs to break whenever someone sits on it.

An objective review of it, means I look at how the chair should be build. Is it comfortable? Can it hold a good amount of weight? Etc.

If something is wrong with it, then that's a badly made chair. No matter how much I subjecting like it.

 

Once again subjective is what you like. Objective is the way it should be.

Because like everything in this world that we humans have invented, it took time to figure out what works and what doesn't.

And that's valid for stories as well. Over the years we've learned how to do things, and how not to do things.

Good writers follow the rules, while bad writers break the rules.

 

You have to consistent, you make your rules and you adhere to them absolutely.
You deviate from that then you're getting into bad territory.
You deviate a lot from that and you officially stopped writing well.

[BlackShirtGuy]

@Analyzer talking about objectivenes and subjectiveness xD yeah sure girl, just so you know, disagreeing on everything with everyone an objetive analyzer does make you not.

[Nostradamus]

I -studied- stories, and analyzed -where- famous writers broke their rules in -famous- stories, that are considered masterpieces.

I don't know if you've studied in a class or you taught yourself, regardless it doesn't matter, if you were taught this way by a teacher. Understand that he or she didn't knew what they were talking about, he or she was wrong. Yes, teachers can be wrong.

And if you taught yourself, know that you taught yourself is wrong, you're wrong.

So whatever analysis you did is based on misunderstandings.

[Yyubie]

@Nostradamus

You too smart for this , don't waste your precious brain resources/function on this person , with that IQ you can make business of your own make good money.

Your definition of Good Writers follow the rules, Bad writers break them is blatantly false. I -studied- stories, and analyzed -where- famous writers broke their rules in -famous- stories, that are considered masterpieces.

 

So this franchise is a Masterpiece and Kishi is a genius manga author ...