@ultranax
I understand where your coming from, but I don't think it's kind to insult others intelligence like you did earlier to prove your point about poke shipping to sorraandevn by questioning his and others comprehension about what they believe in. Everyone's got their different viewpoints on the subject and I think you should respect that.
It's okay to debate with others in what you believe in that's totally understandable, but don't insult others.
After all the last thing I want this thread to become is another pairing war discussion like another series I don't wanna mention.
Again, I'm not saying this as an insult, all I'm saying is be courteous to others when discussing your points, and besides we both know what it's like when people push over the edge with a certain topic kinda like with what happened to NaruSaku in the end.
he had it coming, he insulted me by saying anyone who thinks serena's love for ash is shallow or just a crush "watched selectively", or did you not notice his comment.....
you think he's so innocent, look again 
soraandven, on 04 Sept 2016 - 2:10 PM, said:
well lucky th writers are not gonna have much of a choice cuz they have backed themselves in a corner either have serena confess or have her continue to travel with him if both don't happen fans will leave possibly for good by having her confess it opens the door for her to travel with him but if she leaves him it'll prove that her crush was shallow worthless in trying to develop into something more i even made a tumblr post about it though 1 user disagreed with me saying it would be better if serena let ash go to prove her maturity ( he clearly has just been watching selectively ) but sh doesn't need to let him go to continue her quest for kalos queen besides it'll take awhile for kalos to be rebuilt not only that but serena still needs to meet iris and if i recall correctly shes still in kanto
and pairing war? I have stated multiple times I am not a shipper and I disliked how he was treating non shippers who don't get into the ashxserena thing and how he and others have acted like ashxmisty had nothing going for it except the dub, I get having a shipping choice but that doesn't mean its right to judge people or act like scenes in the anime didn't exist or blame the dub. consider it a wake up call from a non shipper.
just because I'm not a shipper doesn't mean I'm gonna be stupid and act like scenes in the anime like that don't exist or are only in the dub. honestly you guys are the ones that turned this into a shipping thing in the first place talking about ships here, don't even try to pin this on me, you don't want shipping debates here make a pokemon shipping thread.
also the point of those posts was not to shove ashxmisty down people's throats, it was to prove 2 points,
1. that barely any of the ashxmisty moments were because of the dub, they were in the japanese version too, and
2. to show what I mean by how ash and misty have a closer bond and greater interactions than any of the other companions and why I don't see how people try to say otherwise and downplay it.
I'm not a shipper and even if I was a pearlshipper or ashxserena shipper I still would say their bond is just friendship and still wouldn't act like these scenes from the anime don't exist. just like I'm a non shipper yet see the development of narusaku, I am a non shipper and see the development of ash and misty, and I'm not gonna stand for people arguing with me denying it, you can still accept the stuff is there and still support your ships, so I am not seeing the problem. I still accept moments between naruto and hinata even if I know there's nothing going for them other than as friendship only, but apparently when it comes to ash and misty you want to be like the nh fans and act like it doesn't exist and is only dub stuff.
you say people have a different opinion and its subjective? nothing about that moment at maiden's peak is subjective, its a blunt romantic nonverbal hint, its how ash is picturing misty in his mind,its literally his perspective to how he's seeing her in the kimono and when it switches back you can see the way he is shocked and is staring at her, nothing subjective about it, next you'll be saying if naruto pictured sakura like that(like he did in that filler when she was in the kimono) its unromantic, that's a crappy excuse and you know it. I've watched countless anime besides naruto and pokemon luckychi7, I'm not stupid when it comes to stuff like this. this has nothing to do with subjective things, this is just plain denial. 
good grief...
Edited by ultranx, 13 September 2016 - 08:09 AM.