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[TouKen4Life3g]

 
I've seen some people being angry- Won't say who or where, though.- because they thought that Sasuke's development heretofore was all for naught. Sasuke's behavior was very much in character, when you think about it, considering that he always was a person to act as he felt right and to only interact with people, as long as he felt that their presence benefited him. He's always operated with his own morality, which is from a very pure emotion/passion inside of him, as Kishi has stated. He'll do whatever it takes to get what he wants, and this was expected. 

Exactly. People think that Sasuke was exploring the world of happiness and such as that, but when you recap, he always see the dark view of the world and he's the one to be the leader and decide what he wants this time. Back then, he was under an already established group with already established goals. Now, after talking to Itachi and Hashirama, he decided to be the leader and finally have his own goal. No longer about one man but about the world. That's what he learned.

[TheQueenB]

There is no phyiscal confirmation from Sakura herself

 

True. However, her actions speak volumes about how she feels, not to mention that we have commentary from other characters.

 

I think it's important to take into account that she hasn't had the chance to fully process her feelings, let alone to confirm them. She clearly was starting to doubt Sasuke since the beginning of the war, which only became worse throughout. Additionally, her desire to save Naruto and see him become Hokage during the CPR scene shows not only where her preference lies, but also how far she'll go to help him. She hasn't had the chance to sort everything out, especially because she has a few things to sort out with both boys, such as what really happened with the Uchiha massacre. Either way, it seems that she's leaning more toward Naruto. 

[luffyq1]

 

How would the anime screw it up? By making Sasuke look more sympathetic instead of depicting him as the psychopath he truly is? I haven't watched the anime in a long time because I got fed up with the nonstop filler bullsh**? Why can't animes follow the same airing methods as the American networks do instead of continuously making episodes until it's done or canceled? Then they wouldn't have to waist time (and possibly money) creating filler episodes that aren't even canon to the source material.

gotta waste money to make money.

[MangaReader]

Wonder if Naruto goes straight into his SO6P mode or tries to fight Sasuke without it at first

[TouKen4Life3g]

I wouldn't mind this:

http://miiami16.tumb...ippuden-chapter

[TheQueenB]

Exactly. People think that Sasuke was exploring the world of happiness and such as that, but when you recap, he always see the dark view of the world and he's the one to be the leader and decide what he wants this time. Back then, he was under an already established group with already established goals. Now, after talking to Itachi and Hashirama, he decided to be the leader and finally have his own goal. No longer about one man but about the world. That's what he learned.

 

Yep. And the thing is that all the traumas he's experienced have led him down this path, and he hasn't had the chance to fully recover from it. They keep motivating his actions, such that every goal he has in mind is rooted in them and a sort of response to them. He acts as he feels right with his experiences in mind. That, combined with his mentality of the ends justifying the means, has always led him to make some very controversial decisions, to say the least. 

[TheQueenB]

Wonder if Naruto goes straight into his SO6P mode or tries to fight Sasuke without it at first

 

There's a part of me that things he'll try to talk things through, but- and this is rooted in what I also believe- he knew from the start that Sasuke would turn against them. He was prepared. Like he said before, they could understand each other through their fists, so that's why the other part of me believes that they'll jump straight into the fight. 

[luffyq1]

There is no phyiscal confirmation from Sakura herself

I'd feel better hearing it from her than some third party interpretation. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
Yep. And the thing is that all the traumas he's experienced have led him down this path, and he hasn't had the chance to fully recover from it. They keep motivating his actions, such that every goal he has in mind is rooted in them and a sort of response to them. He acts as he feels right with his experiences in mind. That, combined with his mentality of the ends justifying the means, has always led him to make some very controversial decisions, to say the least. 

Pretty much.

[TheQueenB]

I'd feel better hearing it from her than some third party interpretation. 

 

Yes, that would solidify everything between them, but remember, since the beginning of the war, which is when we started to witness how her feelings have changed and continued to change, she hasn't had the chance to fully process everything. Additionally, she still has a few things to learn/sort out with the boys, before she can fully move on and be confident in that decision.

[Nic]

Not to be a jerk but this is Naruto vs Sasuke.  The rest can stay out of the fight, i want kakashi and sakura to have nothing to do with it. 

[TheQueenB]

Something else just occurred to me: Sakura might finally be able to learn about the Uchiha massacre after all this time, since that's one of the things that the Naruto vs. Sasuke fight will come down to. She'll be able to learn the truth, which will help her better understand both of her boys, especially why Naruto is so intent on rescuing Sasuke. How do you guys think that could go down? 

[luffyq1]

 

Yes, that would solidify everything between them, but remember, since the beginning of the war, which is when we started to witness how her feelings have changed and continued to change, she hasn't had the chance to fully process everything. Additionally, she still has a few things to learn/sort out with the boys, before she can fully move on and be confident in that decision.

Her feelings started changing long before the war. She just needs to realize where her heart truly lies with and that's that. But Kishi wants to make it much more complicated than that by not making NS official when it should have been years ago. 

[Kaeta]

Tbh I want sakura to try to punch sasuke and to be angry at him and to scream at him. Not those '..sasuke-kun?!'s I want her to yell at him saying what's wrong with you and stuff. It's not like sasuke would care but I think then we'll see a nice change of feelings. First anger and then fear of how the fight will end.

Annnd if now the time for sakura's official statement in regards of feelings hasn't come i don't know when. I predict her fearing for naruto and admitting love to herself.

[TheQueenB]

Her feelings started changing long before the war. She just needs to realize where her heart truly lies with and that's that. But Kishi wants to make it much more complicated than that by not making NS official when it should have been years ago. 

 

Truth. Even the "false" confession showed that. By the way, didn't Kishi confirm that it was true? 

 

To a certain extent I agree with you. I wish he would've done something about it much earlier. On the other hand, I guess there are too many issues that still need to be resolved for them to have become canon sooner, you know? I guess he just wants more drama, especially because it ties into other aspects of the story?   

[TouKen4Life3g]

Something else just occurred to me: Sakura might finally be able to learn about the Uchiha massacre after all this time, since that's one of the things that the Naruto vs. Sasuke fight will come down to. She'll be able to learn the truth, which will help her better understand both of her boys, especially why Naruto is so intent on rescuing Sasuke. How do you guys think that could go down? 

Well, Sasuke has to spout out or something or Naruto at least, but they sort of did in the last arc. This one is about the future, so nothing will change on your action of today. Everyone is already on against Sasuke's side as in the one in the field. He said enough to make him look horrible in the face of everyone. It's like with Madara before he went fully heel, he lost so much and only Hashirama can understand but others such as Tobirama wants him out because of the action today.

Sasuke just made a big leap, so now, he better change his mind before anyone but Naruto trust is shattered forever. Plus Kakashi knows and even he thinks Sasuke should be done for but he gave Naruto a chance to settle the deal. This action is a moment of the line is almost cross and once you do, you can't go back and fix it. It's all on others to see if they should change their status. Put it this way, kill Naruto, no turning back. Don't do anything else and go back, before it's all gone.

[TheQueenB]

Tbh I want sakura to try to punch sasuke and to be angry at him and to scream at him. Not those '..sasuke-kun?!'s I want her to yell at him saying what's wrong with you and stuff. It's not like sasuke would care but I think then we'll see a nice change of feelings. First anger and then fear of how the fight will end.

Annnd if now the time for sakura's official statement in regards of feelings hasn't come i don't know when. I predict her fearing for naruto and admitting love to herself.

 

Sakura's going to be so angry, because Sasuke has crossed so many lines at once. He threatened to kill her master, who has helped her through so much and made her who she is today. He's a threat to everyone else, with that attitude, which, as a Medic Nin, should not sit well with her. He's essentially declared his intent to end the life of the person who's arguably her best friend. (Random note, he also threatened to kill someone dear to said best friend.) On top of all that, he's pretty much ruined Team 7, which was her dream and pride, with this turn of events. Yeah, I can imagine Sakura getting angry. If she freaked out on Sasuke once for just insulting Naruto, I really want to see how she'll handle things this time around. 

 

I also think this is a perfect chance for her to realize her feelings. I feel like many different things will be brought into light now, especially the Uchiha massacre, which was a big factor in the dissolution of their bonds, to begin with. LadyGT has shared that one Jiraiya's books has a situation wherein the characters who are in Kakashi and Sakura's current position have a discussion, and Sakura's counterpart realizes that she loves the Naruto counterpart, in another thread. I'd love to see that happen actually. I also have had a bit of a headcanon wherein Naruto confesses to Sakura before things get really dire, just so that she knows how he feels. It's fitting, since we had the "girl like my mom" comment just last week. 

Edited by TheQueenB, 11 September 2014 - 04:28 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

>IT'S TIME FOR REVOLUTIOOOOOON
>Alright, what are you going to do ? To change the system I mean.
>KILL THE KAGES
>And then ?
>STOP WARS
>How ?
>LOL WHO CARES EVERYONE KNOW I'M GOING TO LOSE ANYWAY

[TouKen4Life3g]

I was hoping for him to say evolution, so I can play a theme song for him.

[Arima Kishou]

After the fight with Itachi, Sasuke had not a goal. It was odd that moment when he wanted to destroy Konoha. However, I still thought it odd the goal of destroying the current Shinobi system, because there wasn't a clear compression about the goal. Now we have a brief explanation of the plans of Sasuke.

 

It would be interesting if the next chapters show Hagoromo's flashback about his talk with Sasuke. It would also be interesting Sasuke to explain what would be the his ideal Shinobi system.

Edited by supernova, 10 September 2014 - 08:42 PM.