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[rocci]

@james
I don't have any problem with that.
And naruto power is body while sasuke power is eye.
Naruto will never gain rinnegan.

Edited by rocci, 05 June 2014 - 02:49 AM.

[redragon88]

 

Uh...whatevs dude. It was a lighthearted remark about Sakura's role in the reincarnation. I didn't mean for the hint of SS to gross you out, and I certainly didn't intend for it to turn into this. I tell you I spent literally zero time thinking about my flippant comment, and you tell me it's false outrage...? Um...ok. We're just going to have to agree to disagree, or something. 

 

So how else should I take it when you jump at me with "Holy crap dude", as if I said something offensive?

 

I wasn't insulting you or your opinion, you can think whatever you want be it lighthearted or not. But if I disagree with a topic I think I have the right to give my opinion about it.

 

I was being very casual when writing my opinion, but all of a sudden you jump in claiming I'm overreacting by saying "I read too much into it" and when I disagree on that then you act as if I said something offensive with your "Holy crap dude".

 

Not only did you make me feel as if my opinion had no value by dismissing it as "reading to much into it", but when I object the first words that you write are those of outrage.

[Gojira]

I just wish this war can end already and have Kaguya dealt with that way we can finally move on to the actual final arc and get this dumb Sasuke is the final big bad over with already. I honestly would have preferred it a lot more if Obito was the FV because it made the most sense he was the center cause of nearly everything bad going on. Then we got Madara, now we got Kaguya and finally were gonna get Sasuke who isn't manipulative or charismatic or even evil he's just a spoiled brat who can't learn to just let go and lighten the kitten up.

[luffyq1]

I just wish this war can end already and have Kaguya dealt with that way we can finally move on to the actual final arc and get this dumb Sasuke is the final big bad over with already. I honestly would have preferred it a lot more if Obito was the FV because it made the most sense he was the center cause of nearly everything bad going on. Then we got Madara, now we got Kaguya and finally were gonna get Sasuke who isn't manipulative or charismatic or even evil he's just a spoiled brat who can't learn to just let go and lighten the kitten up.

At least Orochimaru is consistent in his conviction: wanting that Uchiha booty.

[Zatheko]

At least Orochimaru is consistent in his conviction: wanting that Uchiha booty.

I miss the days when Orochimaru was the main villain...

[Destiny]

At least Orochimaru is consistent in his conviction: wanting that Uchiha booty.

 

I signed in specifically to like this comment!

 

Also: the whole SS fans liking that Sakura said Sasuke's name first, give it to them, jesus, we enjoy it when Sakura notices Naruto first. It's a common first reaction. It probably doesn't mean anything, but people are allowed to enjoy it. I didn't think much of it all together.

 

Also I noticed waaaaay earlier in the comments there was speculation that Sakura would need saving (whether it be from the boys or that she gets a power up)... but she still has the seal activated... right? So is she still immortal for the time being?

[Hiraishin]

And Sasuke has the Sharingan which was Indra's before he unlocked Indra's powers. They both exhibit powers and abilities long before the sage powers were actually awakened.

Um? Yeah, I never stated differently.
 

he problem I face is is that naruto gained abilities that Ashura had like manipulating the black rods and creating them and such, but Sasuke gains something that his supposed previous being never had or was specified to have. Why?

When was Ashura shown manipulating black rods? Unless you're referring to those spheres that six-armed thing had, though that could be something entirely different for all we know.

 

Unless Kishi written himself into a corner and said "Well, he alreayd has Indra's basic abilities, so I have give him something to really counter act Naruto's boost. I can't just give him a normal Rinnegan because that wouldn't make sense compared to Madara's. It has to be special."

And why not give Naruto the rinnegan then? It would make just about as much sense, but I guess we have to make Sasuke special and important somehow.

Because Sasuke is a reincarnation of Indra, who was born with the Sage's eyes (he didn't have the Rinnegan, true, but he had a devolved version - the Sharingan). Naruto is a reincarnation of Ashura, so he received powers that were like the Sage's body.

[Rozette]

At least Orochimaru is consistent in his conviction: wanting that Uchiha booty.

 I guess it's a good thing his dream wasn't shown.. 

[ramenanmitsu]

I'm going to state the obvious. It's impossible for team 7 to win this battle. No amount of team work and it's synergy effect is going to bridge the gap between them and Kaguya. (It's also unlikely that Naruto and Sasuke will get another power-up. If they were going to get them, Kishi should have given THAT power-up in the first place, let them beat Madara, and THEN let Kaguya appear.) Hell, it was near impossible when only facing Madara. This Kaguya beat that Madara the moment she appeared. 

 

I think the realistic scenario will be that team 7 get out of this place as soon as possible and train themselves for several years until Kaguya finds them. Using Obito's Kamui somehow so Zetsu can't sense them. Or can Kaguya sense them there too? 

[redrose3443]

I did actually like Orochimaru. He has that straight up psycho creepy way of speaking and doing things, not to mention he is consistent of what he wants, like luffy said, and does whatever he wants. Orochimaru is a more evil, less fickle, less whiney little punk version of Sasuke. Not to forget, even if he wants an Uchiha body, he doesn't need magical eyeballs to get sh** done.

 

Anyway, I wonder if the edo kages, Orochimaru/Kabuto, and the SA will be dealt with before or after the N/S fight arc.

 

@ramen But what about the people trapped in IT turning into white zetsus?

Edited by redrose3443, 05 June 2014 - 06:07 AM.

[Gojira]

I doubt we're gonna get another timeskip, that would accomplish nothing but delay the inevitable, besides it wouldn't really make sense to waste another timeskip on someone who isn't even the final villain.

More than likely they'll seal Kaguya into those tools somehow and throw them into the sun or some kitten.

[ramenanmitsu]

@ramen But what about the people trapped in IT turning into white zetsus?

We don't need them. 

 

I doubt we're gonna get another timeskip, that would accomplish nothing but delay the inevitable, besides it wouldn't really make sense to waste another timeskip on someone who isn't even the final villain.

More than likely they'll seal Kaguya into those tools somehow and throw them into the sun or some kitten.

Kishi has already been delaying the inevitable and the way he executed it doesn't make sense either. Reading this war arc has been like opening a Matryoshka doll. 

 

It's really hard to believe that after all this long hard battle with power-ups the solution comes to "sealing Kaguya in the tools" which appeared like 100~ chapters ago. How disappointing is that? Sealing Zetsu, I can understand. But sealing a final villain, I don't think so. 

[Gojira]

We don't need them. 
 
Kishi has already been delaying the inevitable and the way he executed it doesn't make sense either. Reading this war arc has been like opening a Matryoshka doll. 
 
It's really hard to believe that after all this long hard battle with power-ups the solution comes to "sealing Kaguya in the tools" which appeared like 100~ chapters ago. How disappointing is that? Sealing Zetsu, I can understand. But sealing a final villain, I don't think so.

Yes but delaying it with another timeskip when its already in its final phase anyway is pointless.

There's still Sasuke as the back-up final villain, wouldn't surprise me if after Kaguya was defeated he would tale the opportunity of IT to somehow crush the shinobi system as oppose to cancel it out.

[rocci]

@ramen
Or send her back to oblivion, it easy to beat kaguya. You just need to free the biju (and maybe madara and people chakra) thus making her weaker but still stronger than narusasu.

[ramenanmitsu]

Yes but delaying it with another timeskip when its already in its final phase anyway is pointless.

There's still Sasuke as the back-up final villain, wouldn't surprise me if after Kaguya was defeated he would tale the opportunity of IT to somehow crush the shinobi system as oppose to cancel it out.

For me, Kishi introducing Uchiha Madara from early as part 1, giving him a major set-up, only to have him KO'd in 0.5 seconds from a totally new villain that appeared some 50 chapters ago was pointless. But Kishi did it anyway. 

 

Sasuke isn't the final villain is he? He's more like the anti-hero who will fight with Naruto because of clashing ideals. If what Orochimaru said holds true that Sasuke is going to become stronger than Madara, I believe that they are going to have a timeskip either way with Naruto and Sasuke stronger than they currently are. The fight against Kaguya and the Naruto vs. Sasuke can occur in the same arc. 

 

I don't think it's going to happen. But I think it would be more realistic if it happened this way. 

 

@ramen
Or send her back to oblivion, it easy to beat kaguya. You just need to free the biju (and maybe madara and people chakra) thus making her weaker but still stronger than narusasu.

And how is that going to work?

[Nostradamus]

Saw one prediction that said Hinata will use twin fist lion on Kaguya since she has Byakugan.

 

lol

Kaguya is already trembling.

 

 

I'm going to state the obvious. It's impossible for team 7 to win this battle. No amount of team work and it's synergy effect is going to bridge the gap between them and Kaguya. (It's also unlikely that Naruto and Sasuke will get another power-up. If they were going to get them, Kishi should have given THAT power-up in the first place, let them beat Madara, and THEN let Kaguya appear.) Hell, it was near impossible when only facing Madara. This Kaguya beat that Madara the moment she appeared. 

 

I think the realistic scenario will be that team 7 get out of this place as soon as possible and train themselves for several years until Kaguya finds them. Using Obito's Kamui somehow so Zetsu can't sense them. Or can Kaguya sense them there too? 

 

I agree it's not possible for Team Dysfunctional to beat Kaguya. Even if they learn to work as a team and surpass Ino-Shika-Cho in terms of teamwork, they cannot win against Kaguya.

The way I see it is Hamura makes his appearance and somehow helps them. If not they're screwed. 

[ramenanmitsu]

Kaguya is already trembling.

'Hyuuga is Konoha's strongest' after all. 

 

 

 

The way I see it is Hamura makes his appearance and somehow helps them. If not they're screwed. 

I guess they did introduce Hamura for a reason. Maybe he has some abilities that is a completely different concept with the chakra we know. 

[Nostradamus]

 @ramenanmitsu

 

'Hyuuga is Konoha's strongest' after all. 

 

Oh God don't remind me of that line, I'm going to hear it again in today's episode. Hiashi had the funniest dialog in this entire story. "The Hyuugas are the strongest of the leaf" Yeah right.

 

I guess they did introduce Hamura for a reason. Maybe he has some abilities that is a completely different concept with the chakra we know.

I don't know how but I'm confident he'll make an appearance and somehow help, maybe the other half of the Juubi. Kaguya is on a completely different level.

Edited by Nostradamus, 05 June 2014 - 07:15 AM.

[redrose3443]

I actually think it's possible for both brothers to make an appearance. I mean, is Hagoromo just gonna sit and watch his mother destroy the world and did the manga ever state he was dead or could not go into the real world?

 

But yeah, I bet he's chatting with his brother right now and there gonna make a cameo or something. Fingers crossed for a power up for Sakura( and maybe Kakashi too.), skip Naru/Sasu they've had enough power ups.

[Nostradamus]

If I have ten thumbs I will give it up all to you for Kakashi's dialog, pity I only have two (not including my toes) 

Thank you. But the credit should go to malengil from Deviantart, she is the one that created it.