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[Heaven on Earth]

All I'm saying is that 615 was a chapter with Naruto-Hinata romantic interaction fanservice-y chapter because of Hinata's touching Naruto's face. I'm not comparing Naruto's chakra transferring to Sakura's hug at all. I'm comparing the fact that the gesture wasn't a kiss, and that despite the fact that Naruto didn't hug her back, we know it was romantic regardless.

well, hihihi, we dont know the next reaction from Naruto because after we saw Sakura thanked him, Kishimoto cut it. He left that moment cliffy, just like so many NS hint. It ended mysterious lol.

Imagine if he revealed that Naruto hugged her back, or at least, for normal respons, he patted her back, or smiled back, or maybe he thanked her for worrying him. (if thats happened, imagine how much people said that finally theres mutual interaction of caring, some said NS canon, then ppl thought the drama already over, the suspense stopped)

We dont know the next gesture from Naruto because Kishimoto cut it. But 615, Hinata had her hand in his cheek, then Naruto hold it back, transfered the cakra, then its done. Kishimoto didnt left it cliffy. It's clear. Naruto just did it for a purpose.

Btw, sorry for my bad english

[Nefertieh]

Fair enough. I am still on the look out for any possible NH. But if NS get a moment, which there are many ways, then NH is pretty much done to me. There's nothing else for Hinata because she got her wish. Well, she can be declared as a true heir to her clan, but that's all. But yeah, I'm on the look out, but the idea of 615 means canon is dead.

The part that bothers me is that she already planned ahead for how her life would be like "after the war," which had nothing to do with anything besides Naruto. I would be surprised if her interaction with Naruto has been concluded.

Now you're talking about context?

Itachi was dangerous they dont knew that itachi had no intention, and second, the context of Hinata touching Naruto's hand was totally one sided from her it wasnt mutual, like some user posted, It was romantic from Hinata's POV.

We haven't stopped talking about context.

Itachi wasn't dangerous, it has been well established that Itachi can take down Sannin like Orochimaru, but he didn't do anything. I'm not sure if you've missed the second sentence of my post for the second time, but here it is again: I know it was not mutual, but it was still romantic. Not just from Hinata's perspective, but for the reader as well.

Edited by Nefertieh, 17 January 2013 - 06:33 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

We haven't stopped talking about context.

Itachi wasn't dangerous, it has been well established that Itachi can take down Sannin like Orochimaru, but he didn't do anything. I'm not sure if you've missed the second sentence of my post for the second time, but here it is again: I know it was not mutual, but it was still romantic. Not just from Hinata's perspective, but for the reader as well.

This is just what i'm talking, for Naruto it wasnt romantic.
if we talk about reader's perspective we have a huge amount of romantic scenes, if we talk about characters so we have two or three scenes (of mutual)
I was talking that this scene didnt made any hint of Naruto >> Hinata.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 17 January 2013 - 06:41 PM.

[T XD]

So I was re reading that chapter and I noticed Madara calls Hinata a "Missus", many NH fnas are saying this a another sign, like Kiba's remark when the konoha 11 got the the field.

Missus means miss. Madara said little missus because he doesn't know her name like someone addressing to a girl/woman whose name isn't known by him/her. That's all there's to it.

Edited by T XD, 17 January 2013 - 07:18 PM.

[kirabook]

Not exactly on topic, but if my gut is right , we very well could get some significant moment soon, be it similar to what Naruto and Hinata had or more.

I just want to say ahead of time, please please please don't declare out pairing is canon just because wew got a significant moment. It's not, not yet. Not unless they suddenly say their "I do's" on the battle field and make out in front of the entire army. So... yeah. I think if people don't freak out so much, whether something good or bad happened, there will be less disappointment overall.

[tricksie]

The part that bothers me is that she already planned ahead for how her life would be like "after the war," which had nothing to do with anything besides Naruto. I would be surprised if her interaction with Naruto has been concluded.

I agree. I don't think Hinata's story is concluded, and I didn't see it the last few times we went through this (with all Hinata's little fawning remarks at the beginning of the war).

I think if anything Kishimoto has left a breadcrumb trail for this pairing since the war arc started, as well as for Sakura.

Hinata's thoughts have been romantic, and their interaction from her pov has a fulfillment of those thoughts.

Naruto slapping everyone else's hand wouldn't have lessened her one-on-one interaction any. She just confirmed that it was the resolution of what she had been thinking and wanting. To stand beside him and hold his hand. She didn't mean that as a friend, and she ain't gonna stop now that she's gotten it!

And I completely agree that this was a romantic, fan-servicey moment. The images look like something off of deviantArt. Not from the manga. Anyway, I agree with where you're coming from!

[TouKen4Life3g]

I understand what you mean about that. Which is why we should wait and tally up after the battle. It's either Hinata drops it after one event (you should know) or it's Naruto, but to me, it does suggest it will be Hinata. Naruto is still on track of not letting go on anything. To me, Kishi is avoiding Naruto to change, rather have everyone to do so. Otherwise, I don't think we will ever get a clear ending with any pairing to be canon. I still believe that fans in Japan as well as media knows that NS is most likely the canon pairing. That is not to say it's confirmed but I believe they know the deal. You can have fun with Hinata, but you can never replace the story. That's my assumption. Let's wait on how everything is told.

[PhenixElite]

I agree. I don't think Hinata's story is concluded, and I didn't see it the last few times we went through this (with all Hinata's little fawning remarks at the beginning of the war).

I think if anything Kishimoto has left a breadcrumb trail for this pairing since the war arc started, as well as for Sakura.

Hinata's thoughts have been romantic, and their interaction from her pov has a fulfillment of those thoughts.

Naruto slapping everyone else's hand wouldn't have lessened her one-on-one interaction any. She just confirmed that it was the resolution of what she had been thinking and wanting. To stand beside him and hold his hand. She didn't mean that as a friend, and she ain't gonna stop now that she's gotten it!

And I completely agree that this was a romantic, fan-servicey moment. The images look like something off of deviantArt. Not from the manga. Anyway, I agree with where you're coming from!

We can apply this moment as romantic to the audience, but we shouldnt see it as any moment that brings NH any nearer to canon, since there was no romantic sign from narutos side.
As said the audience can see it romantic but the moment itself was just for Hinata development not to make NH closer to canon.

@NaruSaku4life3g: Fully agree there!

Edited by PhenixElite, 17 January 2013 - 07:55 PM.

[NinjaMedic]

whats bothering me right now that hinata is still by narutos side.... what if something else happens?!

[六道仙人]

whats bothering me right now that hinata is still by narutos side.... what if something else happens?!

they'll marry... Kakashi and Tenten will be their best men...

[NinjaMedic]

they'll marry... Kakashi and Tenten will be their best men...

hahahaha....!!!

[TouKen4Life3g]

whats bothering me right now that hinata is still by narutos side.... what if something else happens?!

they'll marry... Kakashi and Tenten will be their best men...

Lol. But seriously, it's nothing serious. The whole thing shift focus to Team Gai when they approached to Neji and Lee is the one to get a lesson. Which makes me think if Team Gai is next to show off in the next chapter, but I could be wrong. Plus, we have phases to the plan. We can well see that Naruto is on the move and won't be doing any mushy stuff. Basically, everything is on the move. Be sure that Sakura is coming. The question is when.

[sushi.]

I think we'll see a heroic Sakura in march. Her birthday is march 28th. : D It fits with the timeline, next time we get team Gai. Then it's team 8. Then Sakura and Sai.

[Chucky-kun]

Sorry, but the Naruhina handhold wasn't even one sided. For the first time, we get to see physical interaction between the two after 600 chapters and we don't even get a blush from hinata? This moment was 0 sided, it didn't have any romantic intention.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Sorry, but the Naruhina handhold wasn't even one sided. For the first time, we get to see physical interaction between the two after 600 chapters and we don't even get a blush from hinata? This moment was 0 sided, it didn't have any romantic intention.

Well you can say that, but to be fair, I would just say NH moment (interaction wise). It's not romantic especially on Naruto's part, so it negates the idea. But yeah, it's rather funny how his first touch with Hinata is the same for others (except Sakura). Isn't that funny? Recap yourself.

[ultranx]

ROFL!! Kishimoto the super troll!!! Lol This was an epic chapter, Naruto transferring chakra to the others, the samurai armor picture that hints to Sakura having a moment, etc. Sorry I haven't been on, got tired of all the nh craziness so I just stayed offline and tried this new online game and then got sick, still am sick with a cold. Just turned 22 friday. Glad to see everyone is doing okay.

[Qia]

Sorry, but the Naruhina handhold wasn't even one sided. For the first time, we get to see physical interaction between the two after 600 chapters and we don't even get a blush from hinata? This moment was 0 sided, it didn't have any romantic intention.

Finally someone sees it like I do >.<. It was a romantic gesture for sure, but as you said there was no romantic intention. The only time we were reminded that Hinata even has romantic feelings for Naruto in a small way is the "warm hand" comment. Even then, however, they both remain serious. I know everyone will have their own interpretation, but I agree with yours so much.

[T XD]

Sorry, but the Naruhina handhold wasn't even one sided. For the first time, we get to see physical interaction between the two after 600 chapters and we don't even get a blush from hinata? This moment was 0 sided, it didn't have any romantic intention.

Yup, a NH moment interaction and not romantic intention.

Edited by T XD, 17 January 2013 - 08:43 PM.

[Candleguy]

Not to be the devil's advocate, but she was touching his face, admiring his hand and all that. It was romantic in a similar vein as Sakura's hug. I can't imagine any shippers being completely satisfied unless their pairing is canon.

That's the funny thing how many non-NS fans would say that Sakura's hug was romantic though?

Somewhere in this fandom there is a major double standard, and that's what bug me. You're being asked to accept the romantic light of Hinata's hand holding, but if you went and argued the possible romantic light of the NS hug back then it would be dismissed as platonic. And I'm not saying that dismissal was unreasonable but if you make that argument the standard applied to that hug apply here.

There are arguments to say there is some romantic context to both of them or there is no romantic context to either. I have yet to hear why Hinata's scenario is more plausibly romantic. then the Sakura hug.

Yet tons of people wholeheartedly accepted the Hinata hand holding as romantic just by face value. Some of these same people of course were quick to judge the NS hug as platonic.

So what standards of context are people using to decide what does or what does not have romantic context?

Edited by Candleguy, 17 January 2013 - 09:04 PM.

[shadow_Uzumaki]

Guys, guys, while all this talk about Romantic Context is good.... There's another, IMPORTANT, topic we have yet to discuss...


My god, did you see Inoichi's EYEBROWS?! It looks even thicker than Gai or Rock Lee's!

It can probably warp gravity, jump away from Inoichi's face, and defeat Madara, Tobi, Jubi, Sasuke, and Orochimaru with one, fell swoop! Then, in the end, it'll probably go, "I must go, now... My people need me." Then fly away with his brethren (Gai and Rock Lee's eyebrows) off to space. Oh and it was epic enough to shield the entire base from the Jubi's blast AND somehow heal the Kages despite not being anywhere close enough.

Ladies and Gentlemen, Inoichi's Eyebrows.