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#501 Anguyen92

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:30 AM

All right, then, new thought. What would happen to Naruto's and Sakura's relationship with each other, if the end pairing does not end with NaruSaku being canon? Are they going to avoid each other all together or they would still have that dynamic that I love and wished that Kishi would have expanded more at times.

It just feels like anytime when they interact, at any given moment, I'm all huzzah!!! Heck, it does not even have to be hints of a romantic moment, that's how good I like it when they interact. All I hope/wanted that in the end, they still would have those kinds of things, even if the end pairing does not end with NS, even though I am sure, nay, guaren-damn-tee that its going to end that way.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:37 AM

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Apr 23 2012, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All right, then, new thought. What would happen to Naruto's and Sakura's relationship with each other, if the end pairing does not end with NaruSaku being canon? Are they going to avoid each other all together or they would still have that dynamic that I love and wished that Kishi would have expanded more at times.

It just feels like anytime when they interact, at any given moment, I'm all huzzah!!! Heck, it does not even have to be hints of a romantic moment, that's how good I like it when they interact. All I hope/wanted that in the end, they still would have those kinds of things, even if the end pairing does not end with NS, even though I am sure, nay, guaren-damn-tee that its going to end that way.

If the pairing doesnt end up happening(for whatever miracle), then I guess it will be reduced to plain friendship, and an formal one at that. They cant really continue to be as close if they go separate ways. At least, thats my opinion.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:55 AM

QUOTE (MangaReader @ Apr 24 2012, 01:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've never gotten mad at bashers...I laugh off what they say to me. If I do get angry...it's to a post that I never reply to. It as all of us here know, the NH and SS fans need to pull at their own twisted logic to possibly make reason to why their pairings will succeed. One thing I've noticed...I still see more NH and SS fan art then I do NS fan art and I belong to 4 NaruSaku groups on deviantART, that's what really pisses me off XD

On that note, I don't know if I'll truly brag, maybe I'll just say I've always knew what was coming, of coarse, all will probably hear is Kishimoto is a horrible writer and that Naruto and Hinata were destined from the beginning dry.gif


As seen from my previous post, I can laugh really hard at there comments. My feelings can range for amusement to annoyance to anger. I don't always respond ot them when I'm angry either I do though I try and control myself over the internet happy.gif. Youre not alone. I myself get really annoyed with the number of NaruHina and SasuSaku fans/fanart I've seen. It really is tiring to me, epsecially when I don't understand WHY those two pairings are so loved and NaruSaku that is such a great, compatible pairings, isn't nearly as popular sleep.gif . I hope it does get more popualr though

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 09:01 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Apr 24 2012, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like I said before and I will repeat again, just because Sakura was thinking of Sasuke in Chapter 540 is not anti-NaruSaku. It was anti-SasuSaku. Yes Sakura still has feelings for Sasuke. I'm not going to deny that, no matter how much it displeases me. But her expression obviously showed guilt over caring about Sasuke in such a way but even then she's not in love with current Sasuke. She has lingering affection for the Sasuke she once knew. The Sasuke of Team 7 in Part 1. She isn't nor has she ever been truly in love with Sasuke, even in Part 1. Her feelings for Sasuke were stronger than a crush but still couldn't be called love. That is the truth of Sakura's feelings for Sasuke. Lack of NaruSaku moments lately, though frustrating to NaruSaku fans like us, makes complete sense. There in a middle of a war right now. Thinking about "love and "feelings" is unnecessary in a time like this. People possibly dying and fighting to save the ninja world is far more important. Would I like a NaruSaku moment? Yes. Do do I need a NaruSaku moment right away to bring up my faith in NaruSaku? Of course not! My faith in NaruSaku is still at its highest and barely wavered over the course of the series. I have no doubt that NaruSaku will be canon. I'm just waiting for the announcement biggrin.gif .


It couldn't be more obvious that this will happen. Romantic moments such as the Unfinished Sentence, 4-tails, Hug scene, Feeding scene, First Part 2 chapter EVER and those are just the major ones that being in a romantic sense isn't a question at all. It was romantic. Even the small and subtle ones go in the NaruSaku direction. NaruHina and SasuSaku are both dead. SasuSaku died long and I'm still very surprised that you think it may happen just because Dragonball made Vegeta/Bulma canon. Toriyama made that pairing canon to piss off and confuse the fandom. In fact, Toriyama slapped any character together randomly without proper, not rushed development. Saying that Kishi will do this is absolutely ridicuolus. He is not Akira Toriyama who didn't get give two kittens about couples; he pretty much hated romance. Kishimoto, though claiming he is not good with romance(Which I disagree with on some level. He developed NaruSaku, MinaKushi, and JiraTsu well), is actually trying and cares about the romance department. The romance department was based on Slam Dunk, another anime, not Dragonball.

Like what more proof do you need, especially when the 6th movie coming out at one point, seemingly is NaruSaku and MinaKushi-centric given that Naruto and Sakura are the main characters and MinaKushi is a NaruSaku parallel? That movie enevitably will contain NaruSaku support. With so much foreshadowing, development, Sakura reciprocating his feelings(What we believe) and Kish truly trying to make an effort in the romantic entanglements, how can you doubt it because of one panel huh.gif ?. Another "Sakura thinking of Sasuke" is inevitable. Why? Not because Sakura loves Sasuke and not Naruto but because she is deeply conflicted between Naruto and Sasuke which is why when she confessed, it seemed slightly forced and unsure. Sakura at time still didn't know who her heart belonged too. Sakura is still in the same positon in her personal life that she was then. She is not proud of still caring about Sasuke that way and does not want a romantic relationship anymore with him. She wants to love Naruto but she still needs to figure things out. Be patient with her happy.gif. She'll eventually realize that her heart belongs to Naruto(VERY SOON, I believe) but at the moment she's stuck.

I hope you take into consideration of what I said and I didn't type this for nothing laugh.gif.


Thanks for your reply! And I am truly sorry to everyone if I went overboard with my negative thoughts recently and got stuck up with that chapter 540 thing! I think I will just wait now and see what happens!

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 11:56 AM

I saw this mentioned somewhere and am curious about how to refute it, though I'm not sure if it was covered yet:
What if Sasuke was just trying to sever his bond with Sakura by trying to kill her like he did with Naruto?

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:33 PM

QUOTE (lord287 @ Apr 23 2012, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I really hope I get to see an NS moment pretty soon which can establish my hope in NS back to 100% which has currently become less than half because of no NS moment for over 100 chapters! sad.gif shamefulcry0js.gif But only anti-NS moments!(yeah i consider the confession and chapter 540 as anti-NS or I am just confused about them)

I seriously hope I don't have to see sakura thinking about sasuke ever again in a romantic manner, but only see Naruto like that now! If she still showed love feelings towards sasuke then I think kishi would have made every pairing crack and whichever pairing happens it wont seem true! yeah I won't be able to accept narusaku if no proper clearance is given about sakura's feelings! and I hope she will prove her love to naruto properly in some of coming chapters which make naruto also believe that sakura loves him and not sasuke!


I used to lose hope in NS like you too...then I took an arrow to the knee... kruemelmonsteryn0.gif I know this is serious business,but i just couldn't help it... sweat.gif


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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:46 PM

QUOTE (LinksmaLope @ Apr 24 2012, 08:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I used to lose hope in NS like you too...then I took an arrow to the knee... kruemelmonsteryn0.gif I know this is serious business,but i just couldn't help it... sweat.gif


I used to make arrow to the knee jokes just like you, then I took a- wait I still make these jokes XDD

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:14 PM

QUOTE (LinksmaLope @ Apr 24 2012, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I used to lose hope in NS like you too...then I took an arrow to the knee... kruemelmonsteryn0.gif I know this is serious business,but i just couldn't help it... sweat.gif


wait what is meant by that phrase! Sorry I am unable to understand!

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:24 PM

QUOTE (lord287 @ Apr 24 2012, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wait what is meant by that phrase! Sorry I am unable to understand!

A really overused and overrated Skyrim meme.

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Apr 24 2012, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All right, then, new thought. What would happen to Naruto's and Sakura's relationship with each other, if the end pairing does not end with NaruSaku being canon? Are they going to avoid each other all together or they would still have that dynamic that I love and wished that Kishi would have expanded more at times.

It just feels like anytime when they interact, at any given moment, I'm all huzzah!!! Heck, it does not even have to be hints of a romantic moment, that's how good I like it when they interact. All I hope/wanted that in the end, they still would have those kinds of things, even if the end pairing does not end with NS, even though I am sure, nay, guaren-damn-tee that its going to end that way.

If NS doesn't happen in the end, I'm pretty sure that they will continue to stay as friends. Even if there was never meant to be some sort of intimate or romantic relationship between them [hypothetically speaking of course], it's not like there's anything that will make them hate each other or whatever. I'm just wondering, what makes you think that they may avoid each other at the end if NS doesn't become canon?

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:33 PM

^ There are romantic hints they they interact, though. It's displayed all over pre-war. Remember the Sai arc? Where Naruto fell and Sakura held him? Or when Sai was giving nicknames, and - I could list a bunch more arcs that gave romantic interaction.
 
 
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:40 PM

^^ Yeah I still remember all those. But I think what Guyen is trying to say is that he enjoys it when Naruto and Sakura interact, regardless if it's a romantic moment or not.

But you're right, there are many romantic hints between the two before the war arc, which is why I still have high hopes in NS becoming canon. :3

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:45 PM

QUOTE (Rocket @ Apr 24 2012, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^^ Yeah I still remember all those. But I think what Guyen is trying to say is that he enjoys it when Naruto and Sakura interact, regardless if it's a romantic moment or not.

But you're right, there are many romantic hints between the two before the war arc, which is why I still have high hopes in NS becoming canon. :3


Yeah, their reaction regardless is always a look-forward-to.

But wasn't there a interaction from Naruto in the reinforcements arrival chapter? When he gave her his trademark grin? He didn't give that to Hinata. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
 
 
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:55 PM

QUOTE (Fenris @ Apr 24 2012, 11:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, their reaction regardless is always a look-forward-to.

But wasn't there a interaction from Naruto in the reinforcements arrival chapter? When he gave her his trademark grin? He didn't give that to Hinata. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 03:41 PM

QUOTE (lord287 @ Apr 24 2012, 06:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for your reply! And I am truly sorry to everyone if I went overboard with my negative thoughts recently and got stuck up with that chapter 540 thing! I think I will just wait now and see what happens!


Your welcome happy.gif . It's okay to have doubts ever once in a while. But NaruSaku will happen trust me smile.gif

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 03:48 PM

QUOTE (Rocket @ Apr 24 2012, 06:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If NS doesn't happen in the end, I'm pretty sure that they will continue to stay as friends. Even if there was never meant to be some sort of intimate or romantic relationship between them [hypothetically speaking of course], it's not like there's anything that will make them hate each other or whatever. I'm just wondering, what makes you think that they may avoid each other at the end if NS doesn't become canon?


I think I worded it wrong. When I meant avoid, I just meant like not see each other as much as they would like to see each other. I did not mean like deliberate avoidance. I meant, as time goes on, if we are in that scenario where NS is not canon, odds are that they may not interact as much as before, or maybe not even at all, which is lame, and even when then if they do interact, it just going to be only a great "I'm happy for you" kind of thing and I don't want that.

I want the thing that made me love the pairing, which that great interactive chemistry that they have when they see eye to eye.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:45 PM

My post seems to have been overlooked. laugh.gif

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 24 April 2012 - 05:45 PM.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:48 PM

QUOTE (Anguyen92 @ Apr 24 2012, 11:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All right, then, new thought. What would happen to Naruto's and Sakura's relationship with each other, if the end pairing does not end with NaruSaku being canon? Are they going to avoid each other all together or they would still have that dynamic that I love and wished that Kishi would have expanded more at times.

It just feels like anytime when they interact, at any given moment, I'm all huzzah!!! Heck, it does not even have to be hints of a romantic moment, that's how good I like it when they interact. All I hope/wanted that in the end, they still would have those kinds of things, even if the end pairing does not end with NS, even though I am sure, nay, guaren-damn-tee that its going to end that way.


If the end pairing does not end with narusaku being canon then I think kishi will get murdered by me, so we won't have to see naruto saying that he is happy seeing sakura happy!

I agree with second para of urs very much but it is always better when it is pointing towards a romantic moment! As for not being canon thing goes I truly hope it will go canon because naruto is my favourtie and I want that kishi makes the manga end perfectly happy for naruto since he always got nothing on his side, so he deserve everything in the end!

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:49 PM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Apr 24 2012, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I saw this mentioned somewhere and am curious about how to refute it, though I'm not sure if it was covered yet:
What if Sasuke was just trying to sever his bond with Sakura by trying to kill her like he did with Naruto?

Hmm. But did he really have a bond with Sakura to begin with? I mean, all she did was get in his way.
 
 
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:53 PM

QUOTE (Fenris @ Apr 24 2012, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm. But did he really have a bond with Sakura to begin with? I mean, all she did was get in his way.

Somewhat, but she did genuinely try to help, and he did at one point care about her as a teammate (though, yeah, that didn't last long at all). I think that the notion is a little far fetched myself, but it's one of the better counter arguments that I've run across, and it has some small merit behind it at the very least.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:42 PM

QUOTE (Fenris @ Apr 24 2012, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm. But did he really have a bond with Sakura to begin with? I mean, all she did was get in his way.


I don't think he had a bond with sakura and as far as severing his bind with sakura goes I don't think he would have attacked her without any talking like he did with naruto telling him that he will sever his bonds with him but no he just don't care for sakura at all that is why he was ready to kill her without any thought and I also don't think their is a way until the very end that sasuke shows some bond towards any other person rather than naruto or itachi! I especially think that if his bond with sakura is shown in some upcoming chapters it will be out of nowhere and will make sasuke out of character making the story very useless! So I think his bonds with sakura will always come nearly at the end with every other person below naruto and itachi!

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