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#5161 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 12:19 AM

That would be cool and all, but I don't see what he could do with that. As unrealistic it may sound, Naruto is meant to create 'eternal peace'.

 

If anything, a story in the past would be great..a story about Minato for instance, or Hashirama.

Well it would be fun seeing Naruto's son going thoughout the chuunin exam. (would be a good spin-off) 

 

Anyway about RTN, funny how Ino supported NS the same way that Sai does on the real world, i mean Ino was some sort of love agent that works for NS on the purpose for Sakura's happiness, while Sai works for NS to work for the same reason.


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Posted 05 August 2013 - 12:23 AM

That would be cool and all, but I don't see what he could do with that. As unrealistic it may sound, Naruto is meant to create 'eternal peace'.
 
If anything, a story in the past would be great..a story about Minato for instance, or Hashirama.


I know, but I can only hope right. A a spin-off may be possible, be nice If they had something like The Rock Lee spin-off

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 12:26 AM

I know, but I can only hope right. A a spin-off may be possible, be nice If they had something like The Rock Lee spin-off

A spin-off like that would work, but not a sequel that includes wars and serious fighting.

 

We can cross our fingers. :^^


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Posted 05 August 2013 - 12:44 AM

I know, but I can only hope right. A a spin-off may be possible, be nice If they had something like The Rock Lee spin-off

Rock Lee spin-off was a fiasco, even the game itself was a fiasco too, the problem with spin-off like those end up quickly because the jokes end up too soon, just look like it ended, basically every two chapters there was one teasing with pairing fandoms.

The last one was about SS and after that never found any other issue about Rock Lee being scan i think it stopped.


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Posted 05 August 2013 - 01:24 AM

I think a good spin off would be a Shippu! Konoha gakuen den series. It would still be better than the rock lee one
 
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Posted 05 August 2013 - 01:31 AM

Nigahiga did a parody trailer of Naruto  :woot:

I think it's very well made haha and very funny.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=FEo2ipzypTQ

 

 

As for Rocklee Spinoff manga, Japan has just released the 4th volume of the series just last month. I guess they probably just stopped translating into English. It looks like this. I hope you guys can see the image

 

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 02:31 AM

Well seeing there are so many new users, I want to ask you guys this:

What zone you're in for NaruSaku being canon in the end? Green is solid, yellow is skeptical, and red is danger.

 

I'm in the greenzone as well.  Before I was a NaruHina and SasuSaku, but changed to NaruSaku after noticing how well they fit together.  Then, once I learned more from here and other places, about parallels and character interactions that I didn't take particular notice at first, I honestly can't see a reason why they shouldn't be together.  The only way I see them not being together is if one of them dies, and I'm sure none of us, not even the mangaka, wants that.  I'm not so much as worried if it will become cannon rather how will it become cannon. This was 600+ chapters in the making.  I'm sure we wouldn't want Kishimoto-san to rush it or take it too slowly.  Just as important as the confirmation itself is the execution.


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Posted 05 August 2013 - 02:35 AM

I found the rest of the rock lee scanlations in Chinese, new chapters start from the 26th. :)

http://comic.xxbh.ne...ist_211694.html

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 03:12 AM

That would be cool and all, but I don't see what he could do with that. As unrealistic it may sound, Naruto is meant to create 'eternal peace'.
 
If anything, a story in the past would be great..a story about Minato for instance, or Hashirama.

I'd love to see some kind of epilogue chapter showing a few of Naruto and Sakura's adventures after they've gotten together, maybe married. It doesn't have to be anything long or have a complex plot, just showing them as normal people (as normal as ninja can be I guess), and maybe even doing cutesy couple stuff. I doubt we'll get to see them doing anything like that in the main manga, cause they'll probably get together at the very end; if not, they'll be occupied with other things until the end of the series, so yeah... But I know it will never happen lol.

As for a spin-off story of the past, that's more likely. Kishimoto definitely likes writing about the past (dem flashbacks - and all the Edo Tensei'd ninja...). Plus, he once said that he was thinking about doing a spin-off with Minato as the lead character, and he intended to draw him as a child (I would love for him to do this).

That being said, it honestly seems to me that Kishi's tired of the Naruto-verse, so I don't find a spin-off all that likely either (unless it was just a few chapters or something). I think he's tired of being a mangaka, too, actually. If he were to do another series, it would probably be several years after Naruto ends, and would most likely not be nearly as long-running as Naruto. He's got a family, after all. I'm sure he'll love being able to spend more time with his wife and kids.

Oh, and Kishi's definitely married and has children. He's mentioned this in several interviews. He got married in 2003, I believe. I'm sure you've all heard about how Oda said that Kishi's wife looks just like Sakura.  :smug: 
I'm not sure how many kids he has - at least two, and I'm pretty sure at least one's a boy.


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Posted 05 August 2013 - 03:46 AM

I will take an ''argument'' from the SS side of the fandom to show you what she meant exactly.. ''Within three chapters Sakura tired to kill Sasuke because she loved him and wanted to save him from darkness to Sakura failed to kill him because she loved him. Either way she loved him.''

 

To save him from darkness was Sai's take on the situation , but then again he didnt witness Sakura and Sasuke's realtionship that was just a pure conjecture on his side ,nothing more. IF she really loved Sasuke she would have killed him ,why? Well, lets take a peek back at part 1. Do you remember when Jiraiya and Naruto went to look for Tsunade? She was so desperate to see DAN and NAwaki that she was willing to cure Orochimaru's hands , but doing so she'd put the leaf at jeopardy and he told her '' I will kill you if you join him'' or something similar. Now that is what wanting to save somebody from darkness , that is my take on the situation.

 

She failed to kill him because her feelings got in the way , but what were they? Maybe she still loved him back then , maybe she couldn't bring herself to do so because of Naruto , because Sasuke is like a brother to him. But then again 540 came along.

 

Yes, that's really what I meant too. Something was in her way so she couldn't do it. The flashbacks are there to show what she was thinking about at the moment and there's a lot of interpretation to be made about them, though there's no doubt she was thinking about them both.

 

Also I would like to make an amendment here as many may be (I know at least one is :P) in complete disagreement with me about Sakura not having romantic feelings for Naruto. In fact we are speaking about the same feeling but using different words.

 

I'm not saying she doesn't love him, nor their love is not true, nor even they have a brother and sister relationship.

 

Her love is real, no doubt about that. I didn't categorize it as romantic at given time (the confession) because that wasn't 100% sincere and Naruto didn't accept it either. Her true feelings are hidden so far and we can only speculate their intensity and every other aspect until it comes clear, so I rather not jump into any definitive conclusions for the time being.

 

Here's a quick thought: maybe I argued for too long with some hardcore NH and SS fans, I may have gotten used to accept any conclusions with very strong evidences and facts only. Oh well....

Naruto and Sakura interaction is far from done, it can only rise and become better. I mean hey, if the past development before 631 didn't matter to some people 631 was enough of a head to kick NS into the process of cannon. Naruto and Sakura will get more interaction, its only a matter of time, but 630-632 made it clear she does care about him, she is not all Sasuke this and that as much as some people claim. Besides she is Naruto's love interest for a reason, Minato sees her like Kushina (only on screen comparison so far too of any girl to kushina), and her character development with Naruto has only advanced even with the land of iron. No matter what happened to them, their friendship never wavered. If naruto still thinks highly of Sakura as she does to him, Naruto still liking her enough to call her his girlfriend, then it will lead somewhere better. The trigger will be about the aspect of her losing Naruto, basically never realizing something until its gone, well for her it will be that aspect when the time for Naruto vs Sasuke comes she will be concerned, I mean she cried just over learning what happens to a Jinchurki if the tailed beast was pulled out and what happened during the 4 tails event, and even lying to Naruto made her cry internally and say she was sorry, she hated to do that. Sakura in all these situations put Naruto above herself. She cares, plain and simple. She cares now and will care when Naruto vs Sasuke occurs. Sakura's development will lead somewhere, this includes everything with Naruto. And as far as anything else is concerned, Kishi hinted NaruSaku just because of 631 no matter how people look at it. Kushina hinted a pairing, Naruto and a girl, Minato said that girl (sakura) is like Kushina, its a freaking simple equation, so far Sakura is the only girl to = Kushina in both hints back from the confining the Jinchurki arc and more recently, its that simple. Yet to most its not 1+1 = 2, they treat it like 0 / 1 = 100 somehow. Naruto and Sakura will have more development and interaction, otherwise what would be the point of all this other stuff? Most fans in the west may want this stuff to vanish but its not, its not going to vanish under a rug. Kishi has plans for this stuff and its going to resurface no matter what they say or feel.

 

 

Well said, Sakura's overall development and her relationship with Naruto are far from done. Like I said back in one of my posts, the real trigger should be the feeling of losing Naruto and never being able to experience anything with him anymore. Humans almost never realize how something or someone is important until they are gone, unfortunately.

 

 

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Wow, I've just came across this:

 

Um... Im not really sure if someone posted it here already, but if not, then -> http://kohaya7kae-13...ation-375234658

 

 

...and not so long after, this:

 

Ino: It's thanks to you both. I... Many things happened... And I want Sakura-chan to be happy. As I thought, the one who matches that girl the most is... the boy who's so much alike to Minato-san... the gentle Menma-kun.
Shikamaru: That's right~!
Chouji: Ah, yesterday's Menma... He acted a bit more idiot than usual though... like, he's livelier than usual.

 

Really... is any more evidence needed?

 

About the question for newbies: as green as possible.


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Posted 05 August 2013 - 04:37 AM

I'd love to see some kind of epilogue chapter showing a few of Naruto and Sakura's adventures after they've gotten together, maybe married. It doesn't have to be anything long or have a complex plot, just showing them as normal people (as normal as ninja can be I guess), and maybe even doing cutesy couple stuff. I doubt we'll get to see them doing anything like that in the main manga, cause they'll probably get together at the very end; if not, they'll be occupied with other things until the end of the series, so yeah... But I know it will never happen lol.

As for a spin-off story of the past, that's more likely. Kishimoto definitely likes writing about the past (dem flashbacks - and all the Edo Tensei'd ninja...). Plus, he once said that he was thinking about doing a spin-off with Minato as the lead character, and he intended to draw him as a child (I would love for him to do this).

That being said, it honestly seems to me that Kishi's tired of the Naruto-verse, so I don't find a spin-off all that likely either (unless it was just a few chapters or something). I think he's tired of being a mangaka, too, actually. If he were to do another series, it would probably be several years after Naruto ends, and would most likely not be nearly as long-running as Naruto. He's got a family, after all. I'm sure he'll love being able to spend more time with his wife and kids.

Oh, and Kishi's definitely married and has children. He's mentioned this in several interviews. He got married in 2003, I believe. I'm sure you've all heard about how Oda said that Kishi's wife looks just like Sakura.  :smug: 
I'm not sure how many kids he has - at least two, and I'm pretty sure at least one's a boy.


That is a little dis-heartening. I hate it when a story ends. Felt the same way when the first series of Percy Jackson ended. Then I found out about about the sequel. Was at least 20x happier that day. Maybe he will feel alittle bit different after he takes a break from manga for a few years.

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 07:55 AM

Here's a quick thought: maybe I argued for too long with some hardcore NH and SS fans, I may have gotten used to accept any conclusions with very strong evidences and facts only. Oh well....

 

That's the thing , if you continue to argue with them you'd probably end up doubting yourself .. Believe me i argued with them its no use the level of denial is beyond everything, not to mention they adore playing game of twister , that is why i tell them to stop reading the Manga , because they disrespect Kishimoto as an author . IF they are not in denial they go ignorant or say ''W/e i am bored of arguing '' aka i give up because i dont know how to twist anymore.

 

Its no use .. forget about them . We know Sakura loves Naruto romantically she just needs to realize it for herself before its too late..


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Posted 05 August 2013 - 08:08 AM

You know, I have seen the CD translation being posted here many times and even though I have read it a long time ago, it's interesting in some part that made me remember that the studio is really, really NS fan. I'm not complaining because yay for us, but wow, they don't even hide anymore, do they. I remember long time ago I questioned if the studio knows something that we don't know. I still do at some point, especially with Sakura not loving Sasuke anymore though you can argue about it, but maybe when SS dies or NS becomes canon, I will look back and see what I missed. Like with NH, I never noticed how well little interactions and the amount of stuff they shared. Anyway, thanks for the CD translation. :happy:

 

As for spin-off, I would love for them to do one, mainly after the series ends. I would like them to try to make the best of their relationship and how they can start doing more lovely stuff, like Sakura would like a fancy place to eat and Naruto would be the idiot about it, something you see in sitcom. Rock Lee SD is good, but it's self-parody and over the top. This one should be just Naruto's normal. In fact, just take notes from FMP: F, which is one of, if not my favorite comedy series yet. That I would love to see. If you never watch it, well you would know how crazy a tsundere can go.

 

Lastly, it's great to hear people are in green zone. I remember long time ago I asked, I got mostly green, but few yellow. However, it was before 631, so time has changed, eh. That said it's still great to know that we are just waiting on how it becomes canon. For some reason, I think we are not done hearing stuff from Minato about NaruSaku. With that said prepare for more.



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Posted 05 August 2013 - 09:49 AM

Well seeing there are so many new users, I want to ask you guys this:

What zone you're in for NaruSaku being canon in the end? Green is solid, yellow is skeptical, and red is danger.

 

Yellow.. because IMO saying Sakura doesn't love Sasuke is as bad as saying Naruto doesn't love Sakura..

I'm not arguing against the fact that Sakura is developing feelings for Naruto though, lol that part is pretty clear.


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Posted 05 August 2013 - 09:57 AM

Nigahiga did a parody trailer of Naruto :woot:
I think it's very well made haha and very funny.
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=FEo2ipzypTQ

Haha yeah I saw this. xD I love nigahiga.

As for Rocklee Spinoff manga, Japan has just released the 4th volume of the series just last month. I guess they probably just stopped translating into English. It looks like this. I hope you guys can see the image

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Aww. I guess there wasn't a lot of readers or something...? That's sad, I quite enjoyed the series. Mainly the NaruSaku stuff haha but it was actually entertaining and amusing. Too bad.

That is a little dis-heartening. I hate it when a story ends. Felt the same way when the first series of Percy Jackson ended. Then I found out about about the sequel. Was at least 20x happier that day. Maybe he will feel alittle bit different after he takes a break from manga for a few years.

Definitely. I feel like the manga is dragging a lot, but I'll still be really sad when it finally ends.

For some reason, I think we are not done hearing stuff from Minato about NaruSaku. With that said prepare for more.

Same here! I feel like Minato's NaruSaku's newest cheerleader, after Sai and Yamato. :D Just another reason to love him. He's such a troll when it comes to pairings haha.

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 10:23 AM

 

Yellow.. because IMO saying Sakura doesn't love Sasuke is as bad as saying Naruto doesn't love Sakura..

I'm not arguing against the fact that Sakura is developing feelings for Naruto though, lol that part is pretty clear.

 

Bolded. You don't have a right to say such thing. Everyone is entitle to their own opinion. Just as everyone has a right to say she still loves Sasuke, everyone has a right to say she doesn't love him. I strongly believe she doesn't love him anymore, she has moved on from him and fully loves Naruto. Why I believe so? Because most of the Japanese fandom says so, yes I can stick my opinion to people who can analyze the manga better than the western fandom. They don't read the manga with pairing goggles and try to disregard or even" censor" the pairing Kishimoto has been developing since the beginning of his manga. I mean look at ViZ's translation from Kushina's speech of 503" don't come chasing the first girl that comes your way" when in the manga she says" find a girl like your mother and not a weird one" Kishimoto couldn't have said it any clearer" find a girl like Sakura and not like Hinata" that is the true meaning of that speech. Yet the west tries to to find a way to censor it. 

 

I do believe Sakura has convinced herself that she still has feelings for Sasuke, even if she knows well she has stronger feelings for Naruto that is a very different story. I agree that she needs a catalyst to finally realize the one person she wants the most. Naruto experiencing a life/death situation is most likely. Especially when in recent chapters Sasuke has shown he has intentions of harming Naruto, probably kill him. That will be the one chance for Sakura to make her move and realize the one she wants to be with. She will protect Naruto attacking Sasuke and give him a speech that Strider wrote on his drawing. This moment which will be the climax in Sakura's character development will officially end SS and make NS canon for good. 


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Posted 05 August 2013 - 10:57 AM

 

Bolded. You don't have a right to say such thing. Everyone is entitle to their own opinion. Just as everyone has a right to say she still loves Sasuke, everyone has a right to say she doesn't love him.

 

That's why I put a IMO before my sentence, I never said you have to follow what I think.


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Posted 05 August 2013 - 12:34 PM

 

That's why I put a IMO before my sentence, I never said you have to follow what I think.

 

Sorry about that. I didn't meant to offend you I just wanted to point out its okay for people to think Sakura still loves Sasuke or not.


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Posted 05 August 2013 - 12:36 PM

Well seeing there are so many new users, I want to ask you guys this:

What zone you're in for NaruSaku being canon in the end? Green is solid, yellow is skeptical, and red is danger.

Green zone here, NaruSaku happening is too obvious to me. Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are there only to be resolved, at least that's what I believe.

 

Anyways, go green!



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Posted 05 August 2013 - 12:41 PM

I have always been in green zone. Even with chapters like 437, 469, 474, 540 and 615. 


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