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Posted 05 August 2012 - 12:49 AM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Aug 4 2012, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Was she really tied up like that, because I never heard that since the movie came out. I know someone would have said that Sakura got tied up like Kushina.

She was. It was stated by many viewers. Her arms were tied up. I do wonder why only Sakura to be their hostage? Hm. I doubt this could be the reason but let's have fun speculating. Remember in the trailer, Tobi said something love can make you weak or something like that? Well, what if he said to Naruto about Sakura. I mean he should have capture Minato and/or Kushina if he wants that message to come across. Why Sakura? To make Naruto weak? I don't know. It's only a guess. Don't expect any answer since the movie is long and people may forget every dialogue exchange.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 12:53 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Aug 4 2012, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm with you.

If Kishi didn't make it clear for Sakura in Kage Summit arc, then this movie will. Basically, Sakura is at the point where she is willing to sacrifice her life/happiness for Naruto.


Actually Sakura was risking her own life to protect Naruto's from the beginning

http://www.citymanga.../chapter-11/17/

Sakura doesn't just hit the dirt, she throws herself on top of Naruto to protect him, and this is way back in chapter 11... We don't see her do this for Sasuke, even in early part 1.

Even here in chapter 5- who does she react to save, breaking cover and drawing attention to herself in what she believes is a bid to save Naruto's life

http://www.citymanga...o/chapter-5/07/

It just gets more intense in part 2 of the manga when she fully recognizes what she feels for Naruto is romantic love. Sakura knew she was in love with Naruto the moment Yamato helped her put the feelings of intense caring, protectiveness, attraction and deep affection together in a coherent package in chapter 297. Sakura just didn't know the depth of Naruto's romantic feelings for her until Sai told her. Naruto was hiding his feelings from Sakura in part 2 of the manga. Naruto's reaction to her heartful confession made her wonder if perhaps Naruto's depth of feelings for Sasuke overshadowed the feelings that Sai revealed Naruto felt for her- she'd already kind of thought that- thus her belief Naruto would hate her if she killed Sasuke, even though her doing so would save Naruto's life and the ninja world....

Naruto and Sakura's nonverbal interactions when he rescues her from Sasuke gives a strong hint to the evolution of their relationship to the next step- there is mutuality in those nonverbal expressions.
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:12 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Aug 4 2012, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She was. It was stated by many viewers. Her arms were tied up. I do wonder why only Sakura to be their hostage? Hm. I doubt this could be the reason but let's have fun speculating. Remember in the trailer, Tobi said something love can make you weak or something like that? Well, what if he said to Naruto about Sakura. I mean he should have capture Minato and/or Kushina if he wants that message to come across. Why Sakura? To make Naruto weak? I don't know. It's only a guess. Don't expect any answer since the movie is long and people may forget every dialogue exchange.

Did Naruto save Sakura princess style as well.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:20 AM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Aug 4 2012, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did Naruto save Sakura princess style as well.

That I have no clue whatsoever. All I know is that he does save her from her death after having amnesia, which, if I didn't mix it up, heard that he saved her by doing Minato's attack back in Tobi confrontation (flashback). That and I know Naruto was the one that told her to not to interfere because he wants her to be protected and don't want her to get in danger. Thankfully, Sakura was extremely brave to enter the battlefield to save Naruto, which later he saves her. It's awesome teamwork. They just have so much chemistry. We need someone who is a non-biased NS to give us the detail on a lot of things. The fence scene, the part when Sakura watch Naruto being happy, etc., especially the final battle. We know it's a long battle, but the detail is so vague.

@ciardha: Well, you are right. In part 2, it's more of a impossible task risk from Sakura. I don't know how that's not heroine.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 05 August 2012 - 01:22 AM.


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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:32 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Aug 4 2012, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That I have no clue whatsoever. All I know is that he does save her from her death after having amnesia, which, if I didn't mix it up, heard that he saved her by doing Minato's attack back in Tobi confrontation (flashback). That and I know Naruto was the one that told her to not to interfere because he wants her to be protected and don't want her to get in danger. Thankfully, Sakura was extremely brave to enter the battlefield to save Naruto, which later he saves her. It's awesome teamwork. They just have so much chemistry. We need someone who is a non-biased NS to give us the detail on a lot of things. The fence scene, the part when Sakura watch Naruto being happy, etc., especially the final battle. We know it's a long battle, but the detail is so vague.

@ciardha: Well, you are right. In part 2, it's more of a impossible task risk from Sakura. I don't know how that's not heroine.

If it is true that Sakura got tied up similar to Kushina and Kishi indented to do that for parallels, than I'm sorry to jump the gun, but NaruSaku is Canon. It does not make any sense to focus on NaruSaku in the movie and than don't make them canon in the manga, thats not logic.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:36 AM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Aug 4 2012, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it is true that Sakura got tied up similar to Kushina and Kishi indented to do that for parallels, than I'm sorry to jump the gun, but NaruSaku is Canon. It does not make any sense to focus on NaruSaku in the movie and than don't make them canon in the manga, thats not logic.

She was tied up the exact same as Kushina.

Not going to lie but, by this point, I think NaruSaku is pretty much written in stone. I am going to wait until the current battle in manga concludes. Like redragon88 would say, if any other pairing happens, it will be extremely awkward. Again, Kishi is serious with this pairing. Naruto always loves her and nothing will change that. Kishi just made it clear as day.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:40 AM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Aug 5 2012, 02:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it is true that Sakura got tied up similar to Kushina and Kishi indented to do that for parallels, than I'm sorry to jump the gun, but NaruSaku is Canon. It does not make any sense to focus on NaruSaku in the movie and than don't make them canon in the manga, thats not logic.


i know right......im just waiting for it to be canon in the manga now...

i mean kishi makes the movie....and all of a sudden we get narusaku stuff!? what has peirot been doing this whole time?

....it makes me kinda sad that we had to wait for kishi to step in to have sakura as a heroine in a movie.....

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:44 AM

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i know right......im just waiting for it to be canon in the manga now...

i mean kishi makes the movie....and all of a sudden we get narusaku stuff!? what has peirot been doing this whole time?

....it makes me kinda sad that we had to wait for kishi to step in to have sakura as a heroine in a movie.....

To give pierrot a credit, they do support NaruSaku a lot than I originally thought, like episode 235, latest ending, 2011 OVA, and so on. Yeah, they are fans of Hinata, but that's just it, just Hinata fans. They used Rock Lee SD to spread more love on NaruSaku and poke some fun on NaruHina.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:44 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Aug 4 2012, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She was tied up the exact same as Kushina.

Not going to lie but, by this point, I think NaruSaku is pretty much written in stone. I am going to wait until the current battle in manga concludes. Like redragon88 would say, if any other pairing happens, it will be extremely awkward. Again, Kishi is serious with this pairing. Naruto always loves her and nothing will change that. Kishi just made it clear as day.

I think NH might die after the Tobi fight, because I don't think Kishi is gonna keep this going all the way to the final chapter, Hinata love for Naruto is not a important plot to the series.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:49 AM

QUOTE (Traci @ Aug 4 2012, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She was kidding, although it was super cute of her to say. love.gif Sakura is a confusing character sometimes, but I have a feeling it's partly because romance isn't very straight forward in this manga, and we also don't really know what's she thinking. Naruto loves Sakura for sure, Hinata loves Naruto for sure, Sasuke is cray-cray for sure, while Sakura is the one who's feelings for Naruto has changed over the series.

Another reason why she may be a confusing character is because she's pretty much designed to be an average teenager. (Am I the only one who thinks she's better than average in many aspects than the normal teenager?)



Some other person on the Heaven and Earth forum on NarutoForums said the exact same thing. And yes, it reminded me of that, too. xDDD



Better than average. ermm.gif Some aspects, yes, I think she is above average. I know girls who I use to hang out with who would say "I wish I had a boyfriend so he could buy me things..." and I know one who knows a guy likes her so she uses that to her advantage and asks him to buy her things but refuses to date him. He has spent well over $3,000 on her alone. :| Compared to some real life girls, who only dates another guy to get another guy jealous of her, Sakura is purty mild for an average teenager. She is "above" because she has risked and fought for Narutos sake and have put her own feelings below Narutos own. Sakura has a human side to her compared to the other girls in terms of fault but she is also the most reoccurring character and, as you said, designed to be an average teenager.

I was in Sakuras position one point. A guy liked me but I liked his best friend. Of course I choose the guy I liked. Not only did it end unpleasant and one of the worst relationships I ever had, I lost the other guy friend who ended up extremely hurt and avoided me at all costs. If I could go back, I wish I would have gone with the guy who liked me because he was more of a dedicated friend, the other was out of pure emotional high (a crush per-se). Again, still one of the worst relationships I ever been in. That was 6 years ago...I haven't seriously dated since and the friend still will not talk to me. Can't blame him though, I hurt him a lot so I let him be with his life and if he wants to start a friendship again, I will not be opposed.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:50 AM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Aug 5 2012, 02:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think NH might die after the Tobi fight, because I don't think Kishi is gonna keep this going all the way to the final chapter, Hinata love for Naruto is not a important plot to the series.


It's not important for Narutos character plot but it is important for Hinatas character development, which will need a resolve before the end.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:51 AM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Aug 4 2012, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think NH might die after the Tobi fight, because I don't think Kishi is gonna keep this going all the way to the final chapter, Hinata love for Naruto is not a important plot to the series.

The chance is pretty high there, because all of Konoha 11 are already gotten to the last stage of development. The only ones left are Team 7. If Kishi really ends NH in this battle, then, to be honest, the chance of NS is almost 100%. What can hold them back if NH chance is gone? But again, we shall see.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 02:03 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Aug 4 2012, 09:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The chance is pretty high there, because all of Konoha 11 are already gotten to the last stage of development. The only ones left are Team 7. If Kishi really ends NH in this battle, then, to be honest, the chance of NS is almost 100%. What can hold them back if NH chance is gone? But again, we shall see.

I know NS chance will go up, I'm just saying there's no point on keeping NH in the story, unless if it helps NS become canon (which I think it will).

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 02:05 AM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Aug 4 2012, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know NS chance will go up, I'm just saying there's no point on keeping NH in the story, unless if it helps NS become canon (which I think it will).

That I can see it happen.

Oh man, the wait is killing me. We should still talk about the movie. We still have those pages to be translated.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 02:29 AM

QUOTE (Malverstation @ Aug 4 2012, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Better than average. ermm.gif Some aspects, yes, I think she is above average. I know girls who I use to hang out with who would say "I wish I had a boyfriend so he could buy me things..." and I know one who knows a guy likes her so she uses that to her advantage and asks him to buy her things but refuses to date him. He has spent well over $3,000 on her alone. :| Compared to some real life girls, who only dates another guy to get another guy jealous of her, Sakura is purty mild for an average teenager. She is "above" because she has risked and fought for Narutos sake and have put her own feelings below Narutos own. Sakura has a human side to her compared to the other girls in terms of fault but she is also the most reoccurring character and, as you said, designed to be an average teenager.

I was in Sakuras position one point. A guy liked me but I liked his best friend. Of course I choose the guy I liked. Not only did it end unpleasant and one of the worst relationships I ever had, I lost the other guy friend who ended up extremely hurt and avoided me at all costs. If I could go back, I wish I would have gone with the guy who liked me because he was more of a dedicated friend, the other was out of pure emotional high (a crush per-se). Again, still one of the worst relationships I ever been in. That was 6 years ago...I haven't seriously dated since and the friend still will not talk to me. Can't blame him though, I hurt him a lot so I let him be with his life and if he wants to start a friendship again, I will not be opposed.


I didn't really mean when it comes to romance. Also, I'm trying to compare to her to the average person, not really the average girl if you understand what I'm trying to say.

And, yeah, you're right, some aspects, not most aspects. For the most part, I was wondering if the average person would risk their life for someone else, or if the average person would break down if they faced some of the difficulties Sakura faces. That's all.

Ya know, if Sakura is supposed to be like the average person, and most fans seem to hate her and bash everything about her, does that mean that most fans hate the average person? Or does that mean they just hate reading about the average person? Or it might be just that they hate her for one reason (Part 1, pairings, etc), and then they try to come up with as much reasons as possible to justify their hate?


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Posted 05 August 2012 - 02:45 AM

QUOTE (Deej @ Aug 5 2012, 05:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On the other hand that one scene with Itachi seems to have inspired some interesting fanart. Depending on your view of ItaSaku. ItaSaku never bothered me since I like Sakura with different people in fanfiction.


The interesting thing is, I find myself shipping narusaku even when I'm reading crack pairings like itasaku. XD The other thing I hate about itasaku fanfics is that they usually have too much Sasuke. I can only read narusaku fanfiction now.

QUOTE (Traci @ Aug 5 2012, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ya know, if Sakura is supposed to be like the average person, and most fans seem to hate her and bash everything about her, does that mean that most fans hate the average person? Or does that mean they just hate reading about the average person? Or it might be just that they hate her for one reason (Part 1, pairings, etc), and then they try to come up with as much reasons as possible to justify their hate?


The most common complaints I hear about Sakura (other than being a fangirl) is that she hits Naruto too much, or she's a liar (as if leaving him to die was the better option >_>).

For some reason Kushina gets a pass though.
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 02:46 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Aug 4 2012, 10:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She was tied up the exact same as Kushina.

Not going to lie but, by this point, I think NaruSaku is pretty much written in stone. I am going to wait until the current battle in manga concludes. Like redragon88 would say, if any other pairing happens, it will be extremely awkward. Again, Kishi is serious with this pairing. Naruto always loves her and nothing will change that. Kishi just made it clear as day.


Okay so let me get this straight: Sakura risks her life for Naruto, he saves her twice, Sakura thought of Naruto's feelings the whole time, AND on top of that Sakura was chained and Naruto came to save her in the 4th Hokage's cloak thing. No question this was a direct and obvious parallel to MinaKushi. Kushina was caught by Tobi during the Nine-tails attack and Minato tried to save her.

So much information whatthekitten.gif .... It's offical. NaruSaku is canon. narusaku.gif Doing such a deliberate parallel to MinaKushi sold it for me. party.gif a_dance.gif Now no one can deny that MinaKushi really is a NaruSaku parallel. NaruHina parallel? pfft. laugh.gif

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 02:48 AM

To me, Sakura started out as an average girl -- giggly, worried about her looks (dieting and taking care of her hair), concerned mostly with the cool, hot guy, competing jealously with her old girl friend over that guy, etc.

But I think from the chuunin exams onward, if not before, Sakura changed. She is a child soldier. Think of all the stuff she had to go through -- the violent, bloody, painful things she's had to witness, endure, and commit herself before she even turned 13. The Land of Waves wasn't so bad for her as it was for Naruto and Sasuke, but she had her hands full in the FoD onwards. The genjutsu of dying from Orochimaru, the fear of being hunted down, the kunais and hair pulling and taunting from the Sound 3, the attack from Gaara, being betrayed by a comrade and seeing another seriously hurt physically and emotionally feeling helpless to help anyone.

She is realistic in the sense of her feelings for both herself and others -- she is not so straight forward as many other characters. Her emotions are far more complicated than others, and I think that it where a lot of her realism comes in.

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As for those scenes with Sakura being chained up and Naruto coming to her rescue, its a great scene on its own. There does seem to be a lot of similarity to the scene with Kushina and Minato... I can't wait to the whole scene at the end -- hell the entire movie. shamefulcry0js.gif
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The interesting thing is, I find myself shipping narusaku even when I'm reading crack pairings like itasaku. XD The other thing I hate about itasaku fanfics is that they usually have too much Sasuke. I can only read narusaku fanfiction now.

Never could bring myself to read fics that paired Sakura up with anyone other than Naruto, Lee, or Ino. I just cannot see her romantically with anyone else, much less Itachi. (though I have nothing against the pairing, per say, it's just not my thing).
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The most common complaints I hear about Sakura (other than being a fangirl) is that she hits Naruto too much, or she's a liar (as if leaving him to die was the better option >_>).

The anime exacerbates Sakura's hitting a ridiculous amount -- if you count it up in the actual manga, she's hit Naruto all of mabye 5 or 6 times in all of part two (which is over what - around 400 chapters?). And the lying - as if no other character in this entire manga has ever lied; lord forbid Sakura does it for purposes of trying to protect another person.
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For some reason Kushina gets a pass though.

Of course Kushina gets a pass -- she's not a romantic rival; rather, she's a potential shipper on board (depending on how people view her comment to Naruto in 503(?).

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 02:57 AM

QUOTE (Malverstation @ Aug 4 2012, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Better than average. ermm.gif Some aspects, yes, I think she is above average. I know girls who I use to hang out with who would say "I wish I had a boyfriend so he could buy me things..." and I know one who knows a guy likes her so she uses that to her advantage and asks him to buy her things but refuses to date him. He has spent well over $3,000 on her alone. :| Compared to some real life girls, who only dates another guy to get another guy jealous of her, Sakura is purty mild for an average teenager. She is "above" because she has risked and fought for Narutos sake and have put her own feelings below Narutos own. Sakura has a human side to her compared to the other girls in terms of fault but she is also the most reoccurring character and, as you said, designed to be an average teenager.

I was in Sakuras position one point. A guy liked me but I liked his best friend. Of course I choose the guy I liked. Not only did it end unpleasant and one of the worst relationships I ever had, I lost the other guy friend who ended up extremely hurt and avoided me at all costs. If I could go back, I wish I would have gone with the guy who liked me because he was more of a dedicated friend, the other was out of pure emotional high (a crush per-se). Again, still one of the worst relationships I ever been in. That was 6 years ago...I haven't seriously dated since and the friend still will not talk to me. Can't blame him though, I hurt him a lot so I let him be with his life and if he wants to start a friendship again, I will not be opposed.



Well that's his fault for being stupid...

And yeah, the other part I bolded is typical female behavior. Something similar to that happened to me my senior year in high school and is why I learned how to get girls and now I'm a playboy in college. cool.gif

Anyway, stuff like what happened between you and your ex-friend effects guys A LOT more than girls think...
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 03:00 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Aug 4 2012, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay so let me get this straight: Sakura risks her life for Naruto, he saves her twice, Sakura thought of Naruto's feelings the whole time, AND on top of that Sakura was chained and Naruto came to save her in the 4th Hokage's cloak thing. No question this was a direct and obvious parallel to MinaKushi. Kushina was caught by Tobi during the Nine-tails attack and Minato tried to save her.

So much information whatthekitten.gif .... It's offical. NaruSaku is canon. narusaku.gif Doing such a deliberate parallel to MinaKushi sold it for me. party.gif a_dance.gif Now no one can deny that MinaKushi really is a NaruSaku parallel. NaruHina parallel? pfft. laugh.gif

That's correct. happy.gif

Also, I do believe she announced that a true hero will save us. Remember, in that world, she was seen as a hero or at least the daughter of a hero. She named Naruto as a true hero. I guess that's why Menma attacked her and captured her. Naruto was awaken by Sakura's words and life. At one point, he was really happy to live there. Sakura didn't want to break it, but she was so sad because she is going to lose him. In other words, the real world needs Naruto, Konoha needs Naruto, Sakura needs Naruto. The fence was a strong scene according to a lot of reviewers because Naruto was being separated from reality or in this case, Sakura. They didn't meet eye contact because they found themselves to be splitting up. Thankfully, Naruto woke up and becomes a hero in that world and to Sakura. Naruto didn't want her to die no matter what, so he put Akatsuki in charge to protect her, but Sakura wants to fight with him.

I can go on, but in short, it's a deep bond. wink.gif




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