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Posted 14 August 2011 - 12:37 AM

^^ Nope, I think we might have a moment in like a month or two, hopefully.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 01:03 AM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Aug 13 2011, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've only played Symphonia myself, which was awesome btw

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Anways, what do people think of Gaara/Sakura, since Gaara is a character who has traveled a path very much like Naruto, but whose major difference is personality.

GaaSaku? Hmm, I guess it's alright. He tried to kill her, but for some reason I can stomach those sorts of pairings when the character starts as a villain, as opposed to pairings like SasuSaku. I'd like to think that Sakura would sympathize with Gaara's sad path the same way as Naruto's, had she been around Gaara instead.

Like you said, though, the big difference is personality. Gaara and Sakura have a certain 'yin-yang' element to them, with Gaara being the more passive partner and Sakura being more outgoing. Then again, I always have a tough time with the 'yin-yang' argument for Naruto pairings, since it seems to me like Sakura can play either role depending on which character she's around. I've always thought one of the more interesting aspects of the Naruto/Sakura relationship was how their personalities mesh. They seem to be drastically different (combat style, analysis, manners) and incredibly similar (personality, character growth, persistence) at the same time. It's one of the reasons I've grown to enjoy the interactions between those two.

Back to GaaSaku though, I'm not sure how well their personalities would mesh, since we don't see too much interaction between them after Gaara started to accept bonds. I do recall though, that she called him "Gaara-kun" in the 3rd Shippuden Movie. I don't know if it means anything, but I thought it was amusing.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 02:20 AM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Aug 13 2011, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've never played Vesperia but I have a friend who is very into the Tales series (I've only played Symphonia myself, which was awesome btw). But, as far as I remember, isn't Estelle the main female and Yuri the main male character? Wouldn't that better coincide with NaruSaku than another pairing anyways? Most people don't judge pairings by appearances, or definitely shouldn't if they do. There is nothing to argue as to appearances, but people do argue personality. So yeah, just another reason why it would be ridiculous to claim all pink haired/green eyed girls have to be with all blue eyed/blonde haired boys to make us feel better :/


Anways, what do people think of Gaara/Sakura, since Gaara is a character who has traveled a path very much like Naruto, but whose major difference is personality.

Hmmm GaaSaku, alot of stuff could come from that. It could work if you get over the fact the Gaara is quiet almost all the time.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 03:25 AM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Aug 13 2011, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've never played Vesperia but I have a friend who is very into the Tales series (I've only played Symphonia myself, which was awesome btw). But, as far as I remember, isn't Estelle the main female and Yuri the main male character? Wouldn't that better coincide with NaruSaku than another pairing anyways? Most people don't judge pairings by appearances, or definitely shouldn't if they do. There is nothing to argue as to appearances, but people do argue personality. So yeah, just another reason why it would be ridiculous to claim all pink haired/green eyed girls have to be with all blue eyed/blonde haired boys to make us feel better :/


Anways, what do people think of Gaara/Sakura, since Gaara is a character who has traveled a path very much like Naruto, but whose major difference is personality.


Yeah But you know NH fans are obsessed to the point of using ANYTHING to promote NH and it's not like this Vesperia comparison is bothering me, honest because I KNOW it is a useless comparison and is shallow be cause they are using only the characters' eye and hair colors but we all know NH fans who are obsessed to the point of paranoia would abuse crack evidence like this until they're blue in the face and we're sick of hearing hearing it and want to smash our heads between two logs That't why I was overreacting. YES I know we can ignore them but they'll keep saying it and saying it and that IS hard to ignore trust me sad.gif Oh and since you said Symphonia was great Miss soupy... a_hug.gif tongue.gif

Anyways I don't Mind Gaara and Sakura happy.gif But I don't think Gaara will put up with her biggrin.gif

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 03:37 AM

Quite frankly, Gaara would be the usual stoic and look unhappy and stuff like that and not know how to love, since he's been tortured forever until of course Naruto came along.

Now as for Gaasaku, I don't know how would he react to Sakura's punches if he does something that Sakura may not like. I mean at least with Naruto, he would be flying.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 04:14 AM

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Hmmm GaaSaku, alot of stuff could come from that. It could work if you get over the fact the Gaara is quiet almost all the time.


It's one of those pairings you could see as possibly working, there's a hint Gaara likes her at least as a friend. He doesn't seem to mind if others are loud and energetic. (look at his siblings and what we've seen of Matsuri's...as well as Naruto and Sakura's) Their personalities don't clash unduly. And Sakura is quite capable of being quiet and thoughtful and their intelligence level is very similar. I think they'd be the second most likely pairing for each other- especially now that his pain over his mother and uncle has been resolved- he knows now they loved him, and Sakura's personality did remind him of his uncle's...

KibaxSakura would be a disaster. Kiba appears to be the one of Naruto and Sakura's age peers who has the least regard for them. They are his age peers and sort of his friends, but he doesn't like either one overmuch. Sakura is the strong willed type woman he actively dislikes (not the immature dislike like Shikamaru outgrew once he understood the type better- thanks to Temari wink.gif due to his mother being very strong willed, and the "tough love" type parent. (far more to an extreme than even Shikamaru's mother- who will occasionally smile and be nice to her son and husband. Kiba still sees himself as superior to Naruto and makes that clear in a rude, argumentative way almost every time they work together- Naruto knows he isn't so he gets hacked off. Kiba is loud, not too bright (as per the 3rd databook even Naruto is a whole point more intelligent than Kiba) rude, argumentative. He's like the worst of part 1 Naruto amplified. However this makes him actually work with Hinata- she's the type girl he likes, and she's not as passive natured when it comes to him, and Kiba actually somewhat understands her nature. Sakura and Kiba would be fighting every second and she would dump him fast.

I just don't care for pairings where their is too many years between the characters. And KakashixSakura would be problematic for other reasons too- Kakashi by his own admission was a horrible teacher to Sakura, and there's a undercurrent in part 2 of resentment from Sakura about this, he's also continually patronizing to her- which also grates on her nerves. He just doesn't respect her enough as person.

KarinxNaruto wouldn't work because Karin's a bit too Alpha for Naruto. She's kind of like a blend between Ino and Sakura, but a bit closer to Ino than Sakura. So you'd have the same problem that you'd have with Ino. Plus Karin would heartedly dislike Naruto's moments of stupidity- I don't think she could tolerate a guy less intelligent than Sasuke- Sasuke is at her lowest limit of intelligence- thus her blunt mocking commentary when she thought Sasuke made a dumb choice- ie voluntarily joining Orochimaru. (as per the 3rd databook Sasuke is a half point more intelligent than Naruto). Where Sakura quickly became somewhat tolerant of Naruto's dumb moments, and even made it a point of playful flirtation with him in part 2- the nickname chapter, Karin would be driven nuts by it.

Okay what about Neiji and Sakura?
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Posted 14 August 2011 - 05:43 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Aug 14 2011, 12:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's one of those pairings you could see as possibly working, there's a hint Gaara likes her at least as a friend. He doesn't seem to mind if others are loud and energetic. (look at his siblings and what we've seen of Matsuri's...as well as Naruto and Sakura's) Their personalities don't clash unduly. And Sakura is quite capable of being quiet and thoughtful and their intelligence level is very similar. I think they'd be the second most likely pairing for each other- especially now that his pain over his mother and uncle has been resolved- he knows now they loved him, and Sakura's personality did remind him of his uncle's...


Agree completely. I've always thought Gaara was the most plausible of any other pairing that might fall Sakura's way, and for all those reasons you've listed. Sakura made an impact on Gaara, some connection beyond his awful life at the moment to the more cherished memory of being loved by his uncle. So it's very plausible that he could come to see her in a romantic light.

I also think that SasuSaku could be a good pairing, but — and it's a really big but! — not the way Sasuke is now. I think if things were different, if Sasuke wasn't so hell-bent on revenge, and Naruto wasn't a rival, then Sasu/Saku could work. So my thoughts on Sasu/Saku are different than the standard fanfic-y version, where Sasuke is the dark love who's left and Sakura loves persistently and/or somehow rescues him. I think Sasu/Saku would only work if Sasuke hadn't left the village. A loyal, highly intelligent Sasuke would choose someone equally intelligent. So I think the disdain of youth would give way to a mutual admiration in adulthood.

Anyway, don't throw tomatoes at me over it. I think it's plausible. But that doesn't take into account Sakura's change of heart, Naruto's presence, and allllll the other things that have happened in the manga. That's for the realm of fanfic. But if Sakura liked him when he was a jerky kid, then a more mature, more loyal Sasuke would be a thing to reckon with. And I think that Sakura, the way she is now, would find that very appealing.

I hesitate to even mention it, because Sasuke would have to change so much to make the pairing work for me. But there you have it.

As for the rest of the pairings, they pretty much leave me cold. I like Shikamaru, but I don't think it would work — he's too slacker-ish for her, even if he is brilliant. And I thought Neji was the best looking of the bunch when I first started reading Naruto, but I don't like his personality very much now. Too wound up, or something.

And here's my double standard sweatdrop.gif : I can't see Naruto with any other character than Sakura. heheelq7.png Yup. There. I said it. They just never seem to mesh quite right. Ino's too bossy, Hinata's too quiet (read: weird, lol), Karin's too alpha. They just don't work for me!

edit: I'd be curious to know if anyone has any fave pairings that were swayed by fanfic. I know for me, I didn't really think about Gaara/Saku and SasuSaku till I read a couple good stories about them. Then I could see it.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 05:54 AM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Aug 13 2011, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also think that SasuSaku could be a good pairing, but — and it's a really big but! — not the way Sasuke is now. I think if things were different, if Sasuke wasn't so hell-bent on revenge, and Naruto wasn't a rival, then Sasu/Saku could work. So my thoughts on Sasu/Saku are different than the standard fanfic-y version, where Sasuke is the dark love who's left and Sakura loves persistently and/or somehow rescues him. I think Sasu/Saku would only work if Sasuke hadn't left the village. A loyal, highly intelligent Sasuke would choose someone equally intelligent. So I think the disdain of youth would give way to a mutual admiration in adulthood.

Anyway, don't throw tomatoes at me over it. I think it's plausible. But that doesn't take into account Sakura's change of heart, Naruto's presence, and allllll the other things that have happened in the manga. That's for the realm of fanfic. But if Sakura liked him when he was a jerky kid, then a more mature, more loyal Sasuke would be a thing to reckon with. And I think that Sakura, the way she is now, would find that very appealing.

And here's my double standard sweatdrop.gif : I can't see Naruto with any other character than Sakura. heheelq7.png Yup. There. I said it. They just never seem to mesh quite right. Ino's too bossy, Hinata's too quiet (read: weird, lol), Karin's too alpha. They just don't work for me!


If I am honest here, that was pretty much how I felt when I watched the part one anime at the time, which was like forever ago, and if that was the way sasusaku was going to go, then the buildup would be different, because this would be a whole different romantic subplotline. I don't know if I would like it but who knows.

However, Naruto and Sakura seems like these two always get each other, that they know each other inside and out (well, sans the secrets (bench scene and the parents part, etc.)) and I can't imagine Naruto being with anyone other than Sakura, because, well, its been established that way since chapter three. I just don't think he can change his mind despite certain events going against them.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 07:53 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Aug 14 2011, 06:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's one of those pairings you could see as possibly working, there's a hint Gaara likes her at least as a friend.

Okay what about Neiji and Sakura?


Oh really, where is than shown?
Hmmm, Gaara oviously isn't one of my favorite characters, but I could see it working. Maybe because they remind me of a pairing I used to like. Of course they have their differences in personality, everyone does but as long as they don't clash too much it could compliment them. I can see Sakura being with Gaara, especially the part 2 calmer Sakura. So yeah, they wouldn't be my second choice but it could work well.

Kakashi and Sakura, that's a tough one... Honestly, if it weren't for his Icha Icha books he would strike me the same as Sasuke. Asexual or gay, but either way uninterested in women. What bothers me more than the age difference thing is how he treats her. I guess in his mind he considered her the weakest link form the first moment he saw her and never changed his opinion. That's probably the way he tought of his teammate Rin and now he's projecting it. He was there for Sasuke, Naruto and now Sai, but he always seem to leave Sakura behind. They don't work well as teammates, I'd hate to see how a relationship would work.

As for Nenji and Sakura I find them both intelligent and mature for their age. Like Sahikamaru and Sakura, they could work but I still prefer the latter pairing. Nenji can come off as too insensitive and therefore often hurt Sakura's feelings. I don't know, I like Nenji and I sometimes read fanfiction about them but it's hard for me to imagine them really working.

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And here's my double standard I can't see Naruto with any other character than Sakura.


I know, I feel the same way! heheelq7.png Maybe because there aren't any female characters that I like except for Sakura. When I like some male random character I always tend to ship him with Sakura because I can't relate to any ther girl in the manga.
It could also be because of Naruto's long-standing and unwavering love and devotion to Sakura. I can't see him swithcing to anyone else.

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I'd be curious to know if anyone has any fave pairings that were swayed by fanfic. I know for me, I didn't really think about Gaara/Saku and SasuSaku till I read a couple good stories about them. Then I could see it.


Honestly, a really good fanfic can sell me almost any pairing. Of course, if they do it in-character, not one of those AU, high school or vampire stories. It doesn't mean I'll start to like them but I could consider it plausible. And yes, it also goes the ther way around. Maybe not for Naruto pairings but other pairings I started to like. I would go on fanfiction and find like only 10-20 fanfics about them. That really shook my belief.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 02:37 PM

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Gaara oviously isn't one of my favorite characters


One of my favorite characters. but back on with the pairing thing Neji and Sakura hmmm I've never seen Neji to be a romance type so ive never really paired him with anyone. They could get together cayse there both reallly smart but then that might get old pretty quick.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 02:41 PM

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 03:27 PM

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 05:51 PM

Lets switch back to Naruto this time then.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 06:06 PM

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Kakashi and Sakura, that's a tough one... Honestly, if it weren't for his Icha Icha books he would strike me the same as Sasuke. Asexual or gay, but either way uninterested in women. What bothers me more than the age difference thing is how he treats her. I guess in his mind he considered her the weakest link form the first moment he saw her and never changed his opinion. That's probably the way he tought of his teammate Rin and now he's projecting it. He was there for Sasuke, Naruto and now Sai, but he always seem to leave Sakura behind. They don't work well as teammates, I'd hate to see how a relationship would work.


Actually, I have to disagree with part of this because Kakashi did see positive aspects in Sakura, and has been shown surprised by her strength more than one time. Of course she is not near the level of Sasuke or Naruto, and I don't forgive him for not ever focusing on her, but I don't think he did this because he thought she didn't deserve it. He chose Sasuke from the start because Sasuke was the closest to losing himself. Kakashi had hoped in giving Sasuke attention and training, he would choose to remain with the bonds he had formed. Later, it became obvious only Naruto could stop Sasuke, so once again Kakashi focused on Naruto. Sakura, as chosen by Kishi, has been used primarily for healing, and she could not get a lot of healing training from Kakashi. One of my favorite moments between them is during the second bell test where Sakura destroys the ground to unearth Kakashi XD

Kakashi simply holds a lot of baggage still; especially grief over the loss of his teammates. But, I have no doubt he loves his current team, even if he isn't shown to give all of them equal screen time.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 07:08 PM

Ehhh, don't worry about Kakashi not paying too much attention on Sakura. He paid the price on that when he became jealous and sad on how his students have grown up and surpassed him. I think there was an omake on that. He probably regretted on how to approach the matter when he first met them.

Now, as for Narutenten, unfortunately, there is not any huge character development on tenten, to try to analyze her personality and see if it works with Naruto's personality. So, I don't have a response on that. I could be wrong on the first sentence though, but I'm dense like that, when analyzing filler characters like that.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 08:09 PM

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Lets switch back to Naruto this time then.

NaruSaku vrs NaruTenTen

Catsi you just chose both the pairings that I ship. Well I ship NaruSaku alot more than NaruTen but NaruTen could work if they talked more.

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 03:40 AM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Aug 14 2011, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lets switch back to Naruto this time then.

NaruSaku vrs NaruTenTen


I would said NaruSaku.
Tenten really don't have a lot of character development, maybe if Tenten has more screen-time, then we'll see.

Um... How about NaruIno?

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 03:26 PM

I don't even know what to say about Narutenten because I have so little knowledge of her personality or her life at all. She has had minimum screen time so I could hardly make a statement as to why they'd be even partially better than Narusaku.

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 05:36 PM

^^ Yeah, that's essentially the problem with said crack pairing is that tenten has probably the fewest screentime as well as the fewest character development and personality, which makes is hard to find a pairing for her.

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