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[TouKen4Life3g]

I believe Sakura has loved Naruto since chapter 13 (even arguably chapter 3) but it has taken her a long time to understand the depth of the feelings she has for him, 
 
Her confession wasn't strictly honest true but it wasn't strictly a lie either 

Read what I said here.

It was before. Here's one thing I realized. A person can understand true feelings quickly if that person don't have anyone else. In fact, the anyone else is often the false love or not the best one. Feelings for another or even in a relationship can block your feelings for the person who you really in love.

There are media that has done this route and many times, one or both of them don't realized until they confront each other and understand what's up. You have one movie with a best friend who is about to marry some guy, but as the movie goes on, she realized her love for her best friend, so she went confusion, then no wedding, then happy ending. Another one is a woman who realized that the man who she best friend for a long time has been the man that kept her feel safe and all the relationships she had are often compare to that man. It took another person to tell her that she was very thoughtful on that man.

You know, if there was a therapy section in the world of Naruto, I would bet that Sakura will keep talking about Naruto on his goals, never ending strive to save Sasuke, his words, him not wanting her to get involved, etc. The more you talk about the guy or show many concerns, the more noticeable it gets that you're in love. Take a look at Sai. He realized that Sakura was being really nice, almost too nice to be frank, so he caught on something, but cut off. Yamato realized it as well when Sakura was told that it's extremely dangerous to get near yet she still did it. Her heart got the best of her.

The databook claimed that she doesn't know her feelings for Naruto and to be honest, until anything else, I still think she doesn't know. For all we know, she may way into herself in that confession that she probably didn't realized hat she was saying or anything and it can get comment on because it was a dark time. If she truly wants to know, she either need someone to question her connection with Naruto and/or she have to drop the feelings of another and start gathering on her own.

[Psychox]

I have to agree with both comments above me , if she didn't love Naruto at all and just use his feelings to manipulate him then why are we supporting this pairing? It doesn't make any sense to me..

 

The manga facts for her love are there overall not just part 2 , part 1 has its great moments too . And again i will say that she needed to see who Sasuke really is that is why Kishi put her in this situation to confront him  , because she couldn't let go of her imaginary love for him ,and Naruto saw through that he may be a doofus , but he could tell . That she was conflicted and confused?Yes . Did she lie about her feelings ? No.

 

If she was lying why did he call her his more or less his gf? If her feelings for Naruto were fake , why did she defended herself when he pushed her away?

 

He only saw part 1 Sakura interacting with Sasuke he didnt see the developed feelings his attentions was 99% at Sasuke , so he couldn't tell or see when did she stared to like/love him.

Edited by Psychox, 03 August 2013 - 04:03 PM.

[deviouslyChaotic]

im sorry, but i was in a hurry checking the debate thread, passed by this, but no, i just had to sign in just to reply to this cuz its just so wrong on so many levels

ok first off, you cant fake a blush, its biologically impossible, unless blood rushes to your face for obvious reasons. It was romantic. For god sake kishimoto even made the scenery romantic, it was snowing, its cold so it brings lovers closer which makes them warmer, but never mind that, lets get on with sakura shall we? kishimoto stated himself that sakura was being honest with syrprisingly stubborn determination. So why would you think she didnt mean to be romantic during the confession? she hugged him for gods sake, and a hug in japanese culture isnt like a hug here in the west. Its only for lovers and family. In this case its lovers. Sakura explained to naruto every reason since part 1 to part 2 how shes close to him and hes always there to help her and support her and everything else she said that was right and makes perfect sense and we even have manga panels to back up her reasons, which are facts no one can change. Sakura defended herself when naruto said its a lie and lashed him out, is that what liar would do? no. What sakura was lying about was the fact that she doesnt care about sasuke. Thats why she wasnt able to kill him. If she was able to land a hit then i would argue that she was 100%honest during her confession. But she was 99% honest since she said she doesnt care about sasuke, but she does since hed their comrade. Theres absoloutley no way sakura wasnt honest and wasnt romantic. When throughout the whole manga shes been developing close bond with naruto. (Ofcoarse shes been doing other stuff in the manga not just love and bonds sunce shes the heroine.)

THIS. 

That's what I've been trying to get people to understand. People lash out at others when they're hurt. Naruto genuinely hurt Sakura with his comments, thus causing her to lash out at him. If someone was lying, they would not have been so hurt by his comments so they would not have completely lashed out like Sakura did.

[Darkness]

Hey'all, just jumping in real quick. First of all, Dαrkrєrsŧ is right.

 

I know a lot of you don't like to see Sakura lying to Naruto about something that important, but she did, that wasn't romantic. She was worrying about Sasuke (Sai did say she loves him so much that she didn't want to see him sink any deeper) and Naruto too, because she wants to release him from all the burden. The blush part, oh well... it wasn't fake as she actually thought about Naruto while confessing in a sweet way but trust me, she didn't love him romantically there.

 

As mentioned, the big catalyst in her mind was Sai's quote as she (surprisingly) had never noticed it before. But that was only the beginning. I'll explain more below.

Also her confession for me wasnt  catalyst, Sai's quote about Naruto's feelings for Sakura is that ws the catalyst, she put Sasuke and Naruto on a balance and choose Naruto despite not loving him, the confession shows only that Sakura knows that Naruto is a better choice than Sasuke and how she wants to return his feelings and Naruto's block on Sakura and his mindset, Naruto would never accept an confession were Sakura would just come out from nowhere and say "I love yoU" when he was totally with his mind like "She only loves Sasuke and Sasuke is the only one who can make her happy".

 

I really don't agree with you here. She still hasn't chosen Naruto over Sasuke as her acts on the summit were as much for Sasuke's sake as they were for Naruto's. Saying she decided to kill her past love only because of Naruto is wrong. Back there Sakura was devastated, her friends and all the villages had no choice but to aknowledge Sasuke as a  dangerous world criminal and to hunt him down as such. She was in love with him and didn't want to see him any worse than that, then she heard about Naruto's feelings and decide to finally end this once and for all. She would kill Sasuke preventing him to sink any deeper and also release Naruto from the promise and his burden even if that comes with his hatred for her. Nothing implies that Sakura has gotten over Sasuke and chosen Naruto, she's only begun the process.

 

She still needs a stronger reality shock before really making up her mind. IMO.

Edited by Darkness, 03 August 2013 - 04:06 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Sorry but this post just doesnt make sense. I dunno if its grammar or facts. Maybe both.

First of all, sakuras VA didnt call sakura a b*tch, she said that sakura was using narutos feelings but then kishimoto said thst on the contrary he depicted an honest girl with a durprisingly stubborn determination. What your saying didnt happen.

Sakura didnt lie in the confession since kishimoti says otherwise. The 3rd databook says that sakura still hasnt found an answer tk her feelimgs. Which must be love since its complicated. The manga has the panls to back it up. Sakura has never thought of naruto as kitten during part 1 like you say, she only thought of him as annoyimg and one who doesnt understand her and wants to interfere in her life but in chapter 3 she decides to be nicer to him and during the PoL she ssid she was wrong about naruto and that he understands her. So no your wrong. Also, sakura has been developing romantic feelings for him since psrt 2 as well, go read the manga.

When did sakura confirm her love for sasuke? She just couldnt bring herself to kill him since he was her childhood crush and still her teammate. Oh and if your talking about 540 then no, she was sad and looking down thinking about sasuke in black flames. Does that sounf like a great guy pose? No.

Also, her hug was romantic, as ive said before in japan a hug I considered romantic, so what your saying doesnt make sense. Sakura was blushing and resting her head on his shoulder while blushing ssying that he was always by her side and that little dummy she ised to knew grew up to be an important man and she was watchung from right next to him and she said "right now from the bottom of my heart I-" she was gonna say I love you. Now if you still dint think thats romantic then I have nothing to say to you. Not only because he saved the village, and yes that hug was romantic, even though it was a thank you. Theres no downgrading that moment. She was only thinking about naruto and her actions and words prove that, even sai said so. Ofcosrse she went to tell naruto right after sai told her since she just found out. And whats wrkng with this line, "thr fools in love with me, so ill do it" whats wrong with thaf? She didnt insult him for loving her. Thr nickname she gives naruto is "baka" so theres nothing wrong. In fact, as kishinoti has explained before it means they have a close bond.

I dunno why you guys think she doesnt love naruto and didnt mean it when kishimoto said it hinself snd her actions and words prive so and naruto called her his girlfriend and thought of the confession which means he accepted it although things are still conplicated snd they need to sort things out as to why he said "more or less".

Sorry for any typos im on my cellphone.
Yes the hug in the pain arc was romantic and but she still didnt officislly be aware of her feelings, but after sai told her something clicked. Yoy cant just so boldly day that her confession was a lie like that when in fact kishimoto himself says otherwise. And no sai, kiba, lee and yamato didnt say anything to prive she lied, they were just shocked, lee was shicked while blushing kiba looked plain and ysmsto looked surprised. Just like sakurs said, no one knows what I feel except for me, including sai, karin and kiba. And whenever sai used to say anytbing befire its cuz he actually saw what was going on. But now he doesnt so it was pure speculation from his psrt tjat sakura still loves sasuke. If sakura was lying then why did she feel so offended snd defend herslef against naruti and lashed him out ehen he said "somethung like that" that was pure determination and she was honest. If sakura doesnt romantically love naruto then answer this; why did she specificslly choose to confess her love to nsruto? She couldve done anything else to convince him, but why love? Becsuse shes been developing romantic feelings for him.

And no a hug doesnt confirm thr pairing, but its romantic and you csnt downgrsde that.

i made it short on the next post, VA didnt called her a b*tch or whatever, Kishi expressed that correctly the VA said that Sakura was using Naruto's feelings for her own sake, which Kishimoto said she didnt then he replied to when she said she acted quite haughty towards Naruto because she worries too much bout Naruto, and kishi replied she didnt acted haughty because he felt he despicted her as an honest but a surprisingly stubborn girl, and then he admits that he were told harshly that Sakura wasnt hero-ish at all.

 

About the hug like i said can be romantic or whatever but doesnt change the fact she only thought about having a romance with Naruto after Sai told her about Naruto's feelings for her before that, considering on having a serious romance with Naruto never crossed her mind neither viewing him as a man.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 August 2013 - 04:09 PM.

[sushi.]

Sakura's confession was a bit shady yes.

 

She said "I love you", which is true in my eyes. The way she looks at him and is comfortable around him, her gentleness and that she worries of his wellbeing when her own doesn't even cross her mind.

 

But of course she meant it in a romantic way, and she isn't there yet. She wanted to believe that, but when she said it out loud she didn't quite believe her own words (maybe that is why she avoided eyecontact?).

 

In my opinion Sakura loves Naruto, but she doesn't know why. She came up with logical reasons as to why she should. The only reasons she knew about love before, even some reasons she loved Sasuke in the first place.

 

When she said she was over Sasuke she wanted to believe that too. But again she didn't quite believe her own words, which is why her facial expressions changes completely and she starts sweating.

 

She also said she 'switched from Sasuke to Naruto', but I think she has now realized it's not that easy!

 

I have no doubt she loves Naruto more than Sasuke though, she hasn't thought of Sasuke's wellbeing for a while(you could argue 540, but I believe she was just ashamed that she loved a badguy), and she thinks of Naruto - not Sasuke when Sasuke is about to get killed by the rookies. The funniest thing is that even in the confession, when she decides to kill Sasuke, what comes to her mind is that Naruto will hate her forever and not that she'll grief for the man she apparently loves the most.

 

All in all we need another confession because Sakura doesn't know why she loves Naruto, and heck she doesn't know why Naruto loves her, only that he does thanks to Sai.

Edited by sushi., 03 August 2013 - 04:14 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

 

Hey'all, just jumping in real quick. First of all, Dαrkrєrsŧ is right.

 

I know a lot of you don't like to see Sakura lying to Naruto about something that important, but she did, that wasn't romantic. She was worrying about Sasuke (Sai did say she loves him so much that she didn't want to see him sink any deeper) and Naruto too, because she wants to release him from all the burden. The blush part, oh well... it wasn't fake as she actually thought about Naruto while confessing in a sweet way but trust me, she didn't love him romantically there.

 

As mentioned, the big catalyst in her mind was Sai's quote as she (surprisingly) had never noticed it before. But that was only the beginning. I'll explain more below.

 

I really don't agree with you here. She still hasn't chosen Naruto over Sasuke as her acts on the summit were as much for Sasuke's sake as they were for Naruto's. Saying she decided to kill her past love only because of Naruto is wrong. Back there Sakura was devastated, her friends and all the villages had no choice but to aknowledge Sasuke as a  dangerous world criminal and to hunt him down as such. She was in love with him and didn't want to see him any worse than that, then she heard about Naruto's feelings and decide to finally end this once and for all. She would kill Sasuke preventing him to sink any deeper and also release Naruto from the promise and his burden even if that comes with his hatred for her. Nothing implies that Sakura has gotten over Sasuke and chosen Naruto, she's only begun the process.

 

She still needs a stronger reality shock before really making up her mind. IMO.

 

When she was about to make the confession she was thinking deeply about her feelings, for Naruto and Sasuke and she choose Naruto, for Naruto's sake.
her intentions could be this but, she went there without a plan, her confession was bound to fail and her plan to kill Sasuke even Kakashi knew she could not do it, Sakura was marching to her own death there, she was under emotional pressure, she didnt do it for Sasuke only, she was in pain much like Ino but her real intentions were to end it all like you said, she wanted to kill Sasuke and make Naruto hate her, she saw herself as a bad person to Naruto like she only bought him pain with the confession.

Also i didnt said she had been gotten over Sasuke and chose Naruto i sid she acknowledges Naruto as a better choice than Sasuke that he's a great guy, hence the fact he stated he was a fool for loving someome like her, meaning that she had a low view about herself that she doesnt deserve Naruto, this is already enough, she put Naruto above Sasuke and acknowledged everything he did, but despite not loving Naruto, she highly values Naruto's feelings for her and believe that Naruto can make her happy hence why she make the confession.

 

My conclusion is that Sakura wants to return everything Naruto did to her, that's why it can be love afterwards it's the only explanation why she cares too much about him, Naruto did a lot of stuff for Sakura and she thought she did nothing for him that she was useless, and then Sai reveals Naruto's feelings for her, and her view about herself only gets worse(thinking she only bought pain to Naruto) to a point that she saw herself as a trash and decides to end it all, Killing Sasuke and make Naruto hate her, she was under emotional pressure because she could not handle it anymore.

She come to a conclusion that returning Naruto's feelings was a way to make amends to the "bad things" she did to Naruto(from Sakura's point of view).

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 August 2013 - 04:24 PM.

[T XD]

Sakura's confession is a topic that we always say the same things, and don't reach anything in the end.

 

I have my thought on it, but I prefer to wait for the other confession to come which will answer everything, or at least some important things, and will put us on the right thought... Simply XD

Edited by T XD, 03 August 2013 - 04:32 PM.

[Psychox]

Sakura's confession was a bit shady yes.

 

She said "I love you", which is true in my eyes. The way she looks at him and is comfortable around him, her gentleness and that she worries of his wellbeing when her own doesn't even cross her mind.

 

But of course she meant it in a romantic way, and she isn't there yet. She wanted to believe that, but when she said it out loud she didn't quite believe her own words (maybe that is why she avoided eyecontact?).

 

In my opinion Sakura loves Naruto, but she doesn't know why. She came up with logical reasons as to why she should. The only reasons she knew about love before, even some reasons she loved Sasuke in the first place.

 

When she said she was over Sasuke she wanted to believe that too. But again she didn't quite believe her own words, which is why her facial expressions changes completely and she starts sweating.

 

She also said she 'switched from Sasuke to Naruto', but I think she has now realized it's not that easy!

 

I have no doubt she loves Naruto more than Sasuke though, she hasn't thought of Sasuke's wellbeing for a while(you could argue 540, but I believe she was just ashamed that she loved a badguy), and she thinks of Naruto - not Sasuke when Sasuke is about to get killed by the rookies. The funniest thing is that even in the confession, when she decides to kill Sasuke, what comes to her mind is that Naruto will hate her forever and not that she'll grief for the man she apparently loves the most.

 

All in all we need another confession because Sakura doesn't know why she loves Naruto, and heck she doesn't know why Naruto loves her, only that he does thanks to Sai.

 

THIS!

And i will add,...

 

It’s AFTER her confession to Naruto

That she realizes just how much Sasuke has changed.

That we see for the first time that she has a negative opinion of Sasuke (540 the questionable reaffirmation of her love.)

That she begins to actively distrust Sasuke (via the scene with Sai)..

 

It brought us the better NaruSaku that is what i will say , because if she just switched from Sasuke to Naruto that would be somewhat unbelievable ..

 

And she is still in the process of changing and revelation why does she love NAruto and why does she love Sasuke ..

Edited by Psychox, 03 August 2013 - 04:26 PM.

[Darkness]

Also i didnt said she had been gotten over Sasuke and chose Naruto i sid she acknowledges Naruto as a better choice than Sasuke that he's a great guy, hence the fact he stated he was a fool for loving someome like her, meaning that she had a low view about herself that she doesnt deserve Naruto, this is already enough, she put Naruto above Sasuke and acknowledged everything he did, but despite not loving Naruto, she highly values Naruto's feelings for her and believe that Naruto can make her happy hence why she make the confession.

 

Yep, thanks for clearing it up. She really acknowledges Naruto as a better choice than Sasuke and, in this point of view, Naruto is above Sasuke in her mind. But not in her heart yet, but that's where everything is heading.

Edited by Darkness, 03 August 2013 - 04:33 PM.

[HauntedCake]

No, she would choose Naruto because she should not love Sasuke, and she acknowledges that Naruto can make her happy while Sasuke not.

A win/win because even if she doesnt love Naruto she will end up loving him afterwards, that's why people predicts scenes like the OVA or a moment where she says i love you to Naruto in front of Sasuke because even if she can be with Sasuek she knows he's a jerk and she deserve someome better it's all about self respect.

Ino had the wrong idea of her love for Sasuke she thought it was more important than her friends, Sakura also had the wrong idea too, when she thought she would be lonely and her life would be meaningless without him but then there was Naruto and more and more he kept giving her things that Sasuke was never able to give to her.

Bolded: seriously? .... your saying it's ok for her to LIE to Naruto yet again and say she loves him / wants to be his GF even though she doesn't love him? Besides Naruto will detect she's lying and will hate her for doing it again.

 

Honestly i sometimes think she should have Naruto taken from her and see what life would be like with sasuke, im 9001% sure she would hate her life with sasuke and miss Naruto so much

[Canadian_DJ]

i made it short on the next post, VA didnt called her a b*tch or whatever, Kishi expressed that correctly the VA said that Sakura was using Naruto's feelings for her own sake, which Kishimoto said she didnt then he replied to when she said she acted quite haughty towards Naruto because she worries too much bout Naruto, and kishi replied she didnt acted haughty because he felt he despicted her as an honest but a surprisingly stubborn girl, and then he admits that he were told harshly that Sakura wasnt hero-ish at all.
 
About the hug like i said can be romantic or whatever but doesnt change the fact she only thought about having a romance with Naruto after Sai told her about Naruto's feelings for her before that, considering on having a serious romance with Naruto never crossed her mind neither viewing him as a man.

No, she didnt start to view him in a romantic light just because of sais words. Its been shown throighout the manga that shes been romantic towards him since part 2, even before they met sai. Even during part 1 she was falking in love with him slowly without realisimg it but in part 2 she actually started to make her move.

Hey'all, just jumping in real quick. First of all, Dαrkrєrsŧ is right.
 
I know a lot of you don't like to see Sakura lying to Naruto about something that important, but she did, that wasn't romantic. She was worrying about Sasuke (Sai did say she loves him so much that she didn't want to see him sink any deeper) and Naruto too, because she wants to release him from all the burden. The blush part, oh well... it wasn't fake as she actually thought about Naruto while confessing in a sweet way but trust me, she didn't love him romantically there.
 
As mentioned, the big catalyst in her mind was Sai's quote as she (surprisingly) had never noticed it before. But that was only the beginning. I'll explain more below.


 
I really don't agree with you here. She still hasn't chosen Naruto over Sasuke as her acts on the summit were as much for Sasuke's sake as they were for Naruto's. Saying she decided to kill her past love only because of Naruto is wrong. Back there Sakura was devastated, her friends and all the villages had no choice but to aknowledge Sasuke as a  dangerous world criminal and to hunt him down as such. She was in love with him and didn't want to see him any worse than that, then she heard about Naruto's feelings and decide to finally end this once and for all. She would kill Sasuke preventing him to sink any deeper and also release Naruto from the promise and his burden even if that comes with his hatred for her. Nothing implies that Sakura has gotten over Sasuke and chosen Naruto, she's only begun the process.
 
She still needs a stronger reality shock before really making up her mind. IMO.

I know your new here dude but allow me.

You made so many mistskes in your post. First you say that sakura was doing it more for sasuke than for naruto since she loves sssuke and doesnt wanna see him sink any lower. And that they were talking about how sasuke is an international criminal and she went to kill sasuke because as sai said to naruto she did it out of love. All this is contradictory and doesnt make any sense. Ill clear it up, but first I wanna point something else that you made a mistake in. You say that sakura hasnt chosen naruto over sasuke just yet, but sai told naruto that sakura chose to confess her love to you as a way of releasing you from the burden she placed on you and CHOOSING YOU OVER SASUKE WAS HER WAY OF RELEASING YOU FROM THE POL. see what you did there? Thats contradicting. You chose sais statement when he said that sakura wants to kill sssuke because she loves him-when sakura just told naruto that shes the ONLY one that knows how she feels, shouldnt that be a sign for you that kishi made her say that on purpose and believe what our heroine is saying since shes honest-when thats wrong, if sais statement about her loving sasuke so much shes willing to kill him, then why didnt she kill him? If her love was so strong for sasuke that she didnt wanna see him sink, then why didnt she kill sssuke? She shouldnt have hesitated, ill tell you ehy, because sakura is the only one who knows whst she feels. And you might say, oh why then do you take sais words when he says other stuff about sakura and naruto, well thats easy, because he actually observes them as the act together and he actually sees sakura being gentle towards naruto and we've seen this as well.

Now, you also made a mistake when you said that they were talkimg about sasuke being a criminal. I beg to differ, going by the manga, sai first confronted sakura in the tent and mentioned how naruto got beat up for sasukes sake and wouldnt sell him out, it wasnt about sasuke it was about naruto. Then she told sakura that he cna even see that naruto really loves her, then she got sll emotional and felt bad for causing him pain because of the promise and did it all for narutos sake. How could you so boldly say that sakura doesnt romantically love naruto when in fact throughout the whole manga shes been developing feelings for thr guy snd we've seen many romantic moments between the two not only that but when naruto and sasuke clashed whose name did she call out and who was she concerned for? Naruto. Who was the guy she defended against her so called love the western fand claim? Yeah naruto. Who was the guy she glared at for insulting nsruto? Yeah, sasuke. Who was suspicious about sssuke arriving out of knowhere in thr war? Sakura, but why? She loves him? Tjsts not love, thr girl clearly doesnt love sasuke anymore, but theres definitely something suspicious going on with sakura. And we're yet to find out.. And in fact kishimoto hinself said she was being honest during her confession. If you dont wanna accept that fact then my work here is done.

THIS. 
That's what I've been trying to get people to understand. People lash out at others when they're hurt. Naruto genuinely hurt Sakura with his comments, thus causing her to lash out at him. If someone was lying, they would not have been so hurt by his comments so they would not have completely lashed out like Sakura did.

Exactly.

I dunno why sakuras confession is taken like this amongst the western fanbase, when the japanese are ok with what happened and believe she loves naruto and moved on from sasuke. There might have been some japanese fans who thought that sakira wasnt acting like a heroine, but after things were cleared up about her intention, many japanese on the forums dont think badly of her or think she lied or dare say wasnt acting like a heroine. They think she acted like a heroine and that was one of the deepest moments in naruto. So much meaning but it looks like (and naturally) that the japanese already accepted the confession and are still on a hold with it. They dont jusge it and say she lied and wssnt heroic. Its clear really. Maybe I've just been too into the japanese forums lately im not doubting anything. How could you support their love and support the hero and heroine if you dont accept kishimotos writing and his words and accept the fact that they are an amazing hero and heroine.

Kishimoto hinself said that sakura says she lives sasuke but nsruto is closer to her heart. And that makes sense since shes never sure about her love for sasuke and she even said so in the forest of death, "I say I like sasuke..." this was a moment of doubt and even till now. Even when karui asked sakura whats sasuke to you anyway? She didnt answer since theres nothing and she doubts. Kishimoto himself said that narutos closer to her heart. And sakura said so as well.

Edited by Canadian_DJ, 03 August 2013 - 05:02 PM.

[Canadian_DJ]

Rofl! I wonder why the user didnt add in good looking japanese.. for example Tsubasa Masuwaka..
 

 
As for Sakura's confession.. IMO I think she was lying too.. in this part "I love you Naruto" is false, coz she was just recently devastated over the two major people in her life; the verdict of sasuke being a rouge-nin/his extermination, and the part that she herself unknowingly made Naruto suffer, just like sasuke.. I do think she's slowly developing feelings for Naruto while being heartbroken over Sasuke.. but that "I love you Naruto" is just a attempt to manipulate Naruto to return to the village with her..  That part where she no longer care about Sasuke anymore is obviously false..
 
Then the true parts in her confession are these: She want Naruto to realize that Naruto himself is in too much danger and should return to the village with her, and other parts where she confess that she feels safe that she can touch Naruto...
 
Well this confession is just a lot to figure out.. x_x

Kishimoto himself said that sakura was being honest and determined and that she wasnt manipulating naruto. Her confession makes perfect sense and she was being honest. Why dont peooke just accept that? The authour himseld said so.

[Psychox]

No, she didnt start to view him in a romantic light just because of sais words. Its been shown throighout the manga that shes been romantic towards him since part 2, even before they met sai. Even during part 1 she was falking in love with him slowly without realisimg it but in part 2 she actually started to make her move.

I know your new here dude but allow me.

You made so many mistskes in your post. First you say that sakura was doing it more for sasuke than for naruto since she loves sssuke and doesnt wanna see him sink any lower. And that they were talking about how sasuke is an international criminal and she went to kill sasuke because as sai said to naruto she did it out of love. All this is contradictory and doesnt make any sense. Ill clear it up, but first I wanna point something else that you made a mistake in. You say that sakura hasnt chosen naruto over sasuke just yet, but sai told naruto that sakura chose to confess her love to you as a way of releasing you from the burden she placed on you and CHOOSING YOU OVER SASUKE WAS HER WAY OF RELEASING YOU FROM THE POL. see what you did there? Thats contradicting. You chose sais statement when he said that sakura wants to kill sssuke because she loves him-when sakura just told naruto that shes the ONLY one that knows how she feels, shouldnt that be a sign for you that kishi made her say that on purpose and believe what our heroine is saying since shes honest-when thats wrong, if sais statement about her loving sasuke so much shes willing to kill him, then why didnt she kill him? If her love was so strong for sasuke that she didnt wanna see him sink, then why didnt she kill sssuke? She shouldnt have hesitated, ill tell you ehy, because sakura is the only one who knows whst she feels. And you might say, oh why then do you take sais words when he says other stuff about sakura and naruto, well thats easy, because he actually observes them as the act together and he actually sees sakura being gentle towards naruto and we've seen this as well.

Now, you also made a mistake when you said that they were talkimg about sasuke being a criminal. I beg to differ, going by the manga, sai first confronted sakura in the tent and mentioned how naruto got beat up for sasukes sake and wouldnt sell him out, it wasnt about sasuke it was about naruto. Then she told sakura that he cna even see that naruto really loves her, then she got sll emotional and felt bad for causing him pain because of the promise and did it all for narutos sake. How could you so boldly say that sakura doesnt romantically love naruto when in fact throughout the whole manga shes been developing feelings for thr guy snd we've seen many romantic moments between the two not only that but when naruto and sasuke clashed whose name did she call out and who was she concerned for? Naruto. Who was the guy she defended against her so called love the western fand claim? Yeah naruto. Who was the guy she glared at for insulting nsruto? Yeah, sasuke. Who was suspicious about sssuke arriving out of knowhere in thr war? Sakura, but why? She loves him? Tjsts not love, thr girl clearly doesnt love sasuke anymore, but theres definitely something suspicious going on with sakura. And we're yet to find out.. And in fact kishimoto hinself said she was being honest during her confession. If you dont wanna accept that fact then my work here is done.



Exactly.

I dunno why sakuras confession is taken like this amongst the western fanbase, when the japanese are ok with what happened and believe she loves naruto and moved on from sasuke. There might have been some japanese fans who thought that sakira wasnt acting like a heroine, but after things were cleared up about her intention, many japanese on the forums dont think badly of her or think she lied or dare say wasnt acting like a heroine. They think she acted like a heroine and that was one of the deepest moments in naruto. So much meaning but it looks like (and naturally) that the japanese already accepted the confession and are still on a hold with it. They dont jusge it and say she lied and wssnt heroic. Its clear really. Maybe I've just been too into the japanese forums lately im not doubting anything. How could you support their love and support the hero and heroine if you dont accept kishimotos writing and his words and accept the fact that they are an amazing hero and heroine.

Kishimoto hinself said that sakura says she lives sasuke but nsruto is closer to her heart. And that makes sense since shes never sure about her love for sasuke and she even said so in the forest of death, "I say I like sasuke..." this was a moment of doubt and even till now. Even when karui asked sakura whats sasuke to you anyway? She didnt answer since theres nothing and she doubts. Kishimoto himself said that narutos closer to her heart. And sakura said so as well.

 

I gotta say when you hit you do it hard .

 

Bravo..

 

Edited by Psychox, 03 August 2013 - 05:13 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Bolded: seriously? .... your saying it's ok for her to LIE to Naruto yet again and say she loves him / wants to be his GF even though she doesn't love him? Besides Naruto will detect she's lying and will hate her for doing it again.

 

Honestly i sometimes think she should have Naruto taken from her and see what life would be like with sasuke, im 9001% sure she would hate her life with sasuke and miss Naruto so much

That's the problem it's not aobut Sakura lying or not, she lied but yet she acknowledge he's better she loves Naruto but even if she loves him Naruto would not believe unless she proves it which has to be in front of Sasuke or some kind of event which people often predicts a lot of times here.
 

In short she lied and it's a win/win because she will end up loving him anyway, ofc she wont lie next time, it will be real because it wont be a confession but she will show him that she loves him, a simple confession from Sakura is not enough to break Naruto's mindset.

The fact is that we all know that Sakura cares way more about Naruto than Sasuke but does Naruto knows about this? 

 

 

No, she didnt start to view him in a romantic light just because of sais words. Its been shown throighout the manga that shes been romantic towards him since part 2, even before they met sai. Even during part 1 she was falking in love with him slowly without realisimg it but in part 2 she actually started to make her move.
 

There's an huge difference on displaying some hints that she sees it than acknowledging it, she blushed she hugged Naruto but did she thought about having a romance with him?

She didnt, she only started when she found out that Hinata loves Naruto, we got a flashback of her reminding of Naruto, then later Sai tells her about Naruto's feelings for SAkura, then she starts viewing him, as a man, it doesnt count when you blush then later doesnt lead to nowhere, the difference is that those two moments lead to the development where she made up her mind to have a romance with Naruto, it's different than Yamato's speech where we didnt even get the response of it and they completely ignored that afterwards.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 August 2013 - 05:28 PM.

[sushi.]

 

THIS!

And i will add,...

 

It’s AFTER her confession to Naruto

That she realizes just how much Sasuke has changed.

That we see for the first time that she has a negative opinion of Sasuke (540 the questionable reaffirmation of her love.)

That she begins to actively distrust Sasuke (via the scene with Sai)..

 

It brought us the better NaruSaku that is what i will say , because if she just switched from Sasuke to Naruto that would be somewhat unbelievable ..

 

And she is still in the process of changing and revelation why does she love NAruto and why does she love Sasuke ..

Yup! :3

 

I mean people have you ever had a nice thought in your mind, but when you said it out loud it just didn't sound right? I think she noticed something was wrong, but couldn't place her finger on it.

[Inferno180]

I believe that out of everything we see happen, Sakura will confront Naruto over what he said to Sasuke about them both dying before they fight. That time comes, it will be an intense moment but a deep one. Definitely a NS moment, most likely concern and hope for the future. Its going to be practically the high moment of the near end arc before the fight with sasuke.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I believe that out of everything we see happen, Sakura will confront Naruto over what he said to Sasuke about them both dying before they fight. That time comes, it will be an intense moment but a deep one. Definitely a NS moment, most likely concern and hope for the future. Its going to be practically the high moment of the near end arc before the fight with sasuke.

I believe the logic is that, i dont think confront Naruto but i feel rather show in front of Naruto that she loves him, i believe she will prove with her actions and perhaps even make a joke on Minato saying she is his girlfriend just to mock Naruto.

[StriderC]

Damn. A lot of discussion going on here. Lol Might as well hop on board.

 

1. Sakuras confession.

 

I personally believe its a mix of both to be honest. I feel as though its not a matter of is she did love Naruto right then and there but if she loved Sasuke. I feel as though she didn't truly tap into her feelings then and there when I look at it. She was more on the surface of it. She recollected what Naruto was to her and the things she brought up could definitely be considered genuine. Hell, I feel as though itwas given her love and affections toward Naruto was indeed a gradual build up from not liking him at all to where she is now. Nothing pike her feelings for Sasuke, Naruto to Sakura and Hinata to Naruto. The ONLY person to actually show signs of confliction is Sakura. The only one to have two obvious love interests is Sakura. What she goes through is what she goes through alone so her confession ain't gonna be like Hinatas or her previous one to Sasuke. She has to show that shes moved on this time around. Naruto wants her completely. 

 

Was she lying to herself? Definitely. I feel she was.

 

She lied about how Sasuke meant nothing to her. Just like Naruto cant just magically get over Sakura, the same applies to her. Its very possible that she had feelings for both. I felt she did. Her feelings for Naruto were always unclear at best but still strong. This is evident throughout all of part 2. Anyway, she was definitely lying to herself. Sai clears this up when he talks about it. its not a negative.its a transition. as someone else pointed out above, if youre a NS fan and you think its all a lie, why do you ship it? That'd make NS an asspull IMO.

 

Just my two cents.

[bthug]

I wanna put the Kun thing to rest. The use of Kun is a representation of "long form" Japanese, somewhat equivalent to Mr./Mrs. In my japanese text book it states the use of long form endings indicates the users (in this case sakura) intention of keeping a distance from the other person.

 

While on the other hand short form Japanese represents a familiarity and close bond with the ppl using it. Sakura to Naruto/Naruto to Sakura.