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#5001 NarutoUzumaki01

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Posted 25 December 2016 - 03:24 PM

 

Serious questions for ichiruki/ishihime fans. What are your reasonings for ichiruki being better than ichihime? Why do you compare Hinata to Orhime even though they are different? Why do some of you think that ichigo and rukia had more than a friendship? Why do you think kubo did ih as revenge  or was forced even though he said he planned this from the beginning? Why do some of you think it would be in character for Ichigo and Orhime to cheat on each other? Same with Rukia cheating on Renji (her childhood friend) with Ichigo and Ishida sleeping with his best friends wife Orhime. Why do some of you think Orhime and Ishida have secret love for each other? Why do you guys like to say Rukia dried Ichigo's rain as proof of something more than friendship when other people have done the same? Why do you try to use non cannon art drawn by kubo to prove ichigo and rukia had more than friendship? Why do you think ichigo and rukia being on the final cover proves they love each other or that kubo had some hidden ir message in it? It would make sense for them to be on the final cover since they started the manga. The final cover was a callback.

 

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Posted 25 December 2016 - 04:24 PM

I always saw Ichihime happening since Orihime had an important role in the plot unlike Hinata who was like an add on from the PS store she was never necessary to the plot but she was added because the fans love her (to this day I still don't know why). But Orihime is completely different than Hinata because she was never shy or insecure of herself she has shown to be very brave and caring for everyone it wasn't just for Ichigo (unlike Hinata who only had Naruto in the brain and she could care less what happens to everyone and the world as long as Naruto was okay) Orihime was selfless, Hinata was selfish. Again why are they comparing Orihime to Hinata? The only similar trait they have is size of boobs that's it.


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Posted 25 December 2016 - 05:08 PM

I always saw Ichihime happening since Orihime had an important role in the plot unlike Hinata who was like an add on from the PS store she was never necessary to the plot but she was added because the fans love her (to this day I still don't know why). But Orihime is completely different than Hinata because she was never shy or insecure of herself she has shown to be very brave and caring for everyone it wasn't just for Ichigo (unlike Hinata who only had Naruto in the brain and she could care less what happens to everyone and the world as long as Naruto was okay) Orihime was selfless, Hinata was selfish. Again why are they comparing Orihime to Hinata? The only similar trait they have is size of boobs that's it.


I'd take orihime over Hinata. The thing is orihime have hayd main character position but she really did nothing in the series and when was she there for ichigo when he was in one of his funks, while I'm an ichiruki fan I do think ichimie could have been done better. Like I'm not arguing renji and rukia could get together sure they knew each other as kids but i see that as a natsu and Erza relationship. Also at least orihime had a victory unlike hinata who had no victory sure orihime only won one time in the first arc of bleach but still. Plus the only insecure orihime was being useless to ichigo, kubo really down played orihime alot. Hinata would let the world die and her family die so long as naruto was alright, I'm surprised she didn't leave kiba and shino for dead in the first chunin exams to go find naruto.

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Posted 26 December 2016 - 04:16 PM

I really want to know what went down between the editor and kubo when the manga started to drop on sales.



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Posted 26 December 2016 - 05:18 PM

I really want to know what went down between the editor and kubo when the manga started to drop on sales.

Most likely, more fanservice.

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Posted 26 December 2016 - 06:26 PM

From what i heard.. It was after Soul Society when the editors started telling him to do things the way that "could benefit" the series including slowing down the pacing..  I mean one thing I know is that Arrancar Arc wasn't suppose to be as long as it turned out it was suppose to be a like a set up for an even bigger arc, and  that there was alot from the FullBring there was alot that he had to take out cause Jump gave him the notice that it wasn't doing well.   

 

I mean one thing Kubo above anything that he wanted to do was do a whole arc revolving around the French, and that would've been interesting.. I mean maybe if the anime ever comes back we could get a little movie that happens after the chapter where Ichigo defeats Yhwach. 

 

 

But that's just wishful thinking on my part. 


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Posted 26 December 2016 - 06:55 PM

Questions for ichiruki/ishihime fans.

 

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Posted 26 December 2016 - 10:58 PM

From what i heard.. It was after Soul Society when the editors started telling him to do things the way that "could benefit" the series including slowing down the pacing..  I mean one thing I know is that Arrancar Arc wasn't suppose to be as long as it turned out it was suppose to be a like a set up for an even bigger arc, and  that there was alot from the FullBring there was alot that he had to take out cause Jump gave him the notice that it wasn't doing well.   

 

I mean one thing Kubo above anything that he wanted to do was do a whole arc revolving around the French, and that would've been interesting.. I mean maybe if the anime ever comes back we could get a little movie that happens after the chapter where Ichigo defeats Yhwach. 

 

 

But that's just wishful thinking on my part. 

He shouldn't have listened to them if it's true. But, still, nothing much he can do about it since mangakas don't have much freedom with popular manga in Japan.

Soul Society Arc was very good.


Edited by T XD, 26 December 2016 - 10:59 PM.


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Posted 26 December 2016 - 11:00 PM

He shouldn't have listened to them if it's true. But, still, nothing much he can do about it since mangakas don't have much freedom with popular manga in Japan.
Soul Society Arc was very good.

Soul society arc was the best. Seems like anyone but oda who works at jump that happen to. Pretty sure hiro doesn't have that problem with fairy tail.

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Posted 27 December 2016 - 11:58 PM

Does anyone ship yoruichi with soi fon?

 

 

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Edited by rikakim94, 28 December 2016 - 12:00 AM.


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Posted 28 December 2016 - 12:22 AM

Does anyone ship yoruichi with soi fon?
 
 
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As a joke but I ship ichigo with rukia, yoruichi and nel.

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 02:07 AM

Soul society arc was the best. Seems like anyone but oda who works at jump that happen to. Pretty sure hiro doesn't have that problem with fairy tail.

From looking at Fairy Tail, he has other problems.



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Posted 28 December 2016 - 09:35 AM

Does anyone ship yoruichi with soi fon?

 

 

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I admit they do have a special thing between them especially in the data book and when Kubo draw the best 7, or around 7, battles some time ago :P

 

By the way, is it a filler scene or a fan art ?


Edited by T XD, 28 December 2016 - 11:20 AM.


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Posted 28 December 2016 - 10:59 AM

I admit they do have a special thing between them especially in the data book and when Kubo draw the best 7, or around 7,battles some time ago :P
 
By the way, is it a filler scene or a fan art ?

I think its a filler scence in the arc were their sword spirts rebelled.

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 11:00 AM

From looking at Fairy Tail, he has other problems.


I mean their not making him rush the ending like with what happened with kubo and he's nit going against his story like kishi did.

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 11:21 AM

I think its a filler scence in the arc were their sword spirts rebelled.

The one when ' Soi Fon ' battled Komamura ?



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Posted 28 December 2016 - 05:17 PM

I mean their not making him rush the ending like with what happened with kubo and he's nit going against his story like kishi did.

His story is simple, and instead of rushing he inputs huge pile of fan-service, and why would editor rush him? FT sales great.



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Posted 28 December 2016 - 07:48 PM

The one when ' Soi Fon ' battled Komamura ?


The filler arc that was after nnotitra defeat and before ichigo fights ulquiorra.

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 07:50 PM

His story is simple, and instead of rushing he inputs huge pile of fan-service, and why would editor rush him? FT sales great.


That's why I like fairy tail it takes it's time and has a better story and characters and two better villains than Naruto and bleach and the meaning of bonds and friendship are better handle than in naruto. The only writer at jump that they let do this is oda.

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 08:32 PM

Has anyone shared this here yet?  Anyway, credit goes to HezuNeutral from deviantArt.

None of this is real

 

Also, while this has some shipping in it, it is NOT the main criticism, as you will see.






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