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[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Oh no! We're off topic!

Comes with the lack of NaruSaku developments to talk about.

[ultranx]

Madara already had hes flashback hes doing this because hes brother dying in feign and stuff like that.

What are you talking about? His brother died because Madara took his eyes for himself making him blind...Anyways can anyone think of something involving Narusaku, Naruto or Sakura to talk about? Well until then I'm going back to warmongering, online games I'm playing having a massive war right now.

Edited by ultranx, 15 October 2012 - 04:52 AM.

[Branden]

I predict that Naruto is going to give a speach about love to Obito, but in secret Sakura hears it and then Obito is like "Oh, I've been wrong this entire time! I'm good now!" and then Sakura will be all like "Oh how romantic I love Naruto now!" and then NaruSaku will become cannon with a kiss, but Hinata is secretly watching aswell and she's like "Oh Naruto, you broke my heart. I guess ill move on now!" and then happily ever after.



(lol most pathetic prediction ever)

[TouKen4Life3g]

I predict that Naruto is going to give a speach about love to Obito, but in secret Sakura hears it and then Obito is like "Oh, I've been wrong this entire time! I'm good now!" and then Sakura will be all like "Oh how romantic I love Naruto now!" and then NaruSaku will become cannon with a kiss, but Hinata is secretly watching aswell and she's like "Oh Naruto, you broke my heart. I guess ill move on now!" and then happily ever after.



(lol most pathetic prediction ever)

Lol. Well, not that pathetic but the lines from Hinata is rather funny. I don't know, she seems like she will be ok with it. She could be sad at one point, but she should learn that love is not supposed to be selfish. She won't say it like that but I think she will come to an agreement. But that's just me.

[PhenixElite]

Lol. Well, not that pathetic but the lines from Hinata is rather funny. I don't know, she seems like she will be ok with it. She could be sad at one point, but she should learn that love is not supposed to be selfish. She won't say it like that but I think she will come to an agreement. But that's just me.

True! If hinata really loves naruto she would want him to be happy, just like naruto with sakura.

So for sure shes going to understand it. Even more if naruto gives her a speech why he loves sakura.

[Branden]

I forgot to tell you the second part of the theory! After NaruSaku happens Naruto becomes Hokage and goes to Iruka and gives his headband back because now he's become king of the shinobi!

[sushi.]

I'm not saying Kishi will redeem him. I'm not even that sure if Obito will even change again. Just putting my opinion out there. And Tobi's redemption might be bad for the story. Who knows.

That's what we always think, but Kishi usually manages to explain it in an alright way. We don't like it at first, but we'll get used to whatever he writes. Like Tobi's identity, anyone?

Edited by sushi., 15 October 2012 - 01:12 PM.

[redragon88]

I forgot to tell you the second part of the theory! After NaruSaku happens Naruto becomes Hokage and goes to Iruka and gives his headband back because now he's become king of the shinobi!

Oh but before that Sasuke will go to the person who knows everything and learn about the lost century of the shinobi which is recorded in a bunch of mysterious Uchiha rocks.

[narulsaku]

Oh but before that Sasuke will go to the person who knows everything and learn about the lost century of the shinobi which is recorded in a bunch of mysterious Uchiha rocks.

if he live. and i would like to be that person.

[PhenixElite]

All i have to say about NS is:

Minato telling that through his death he will make a better life for naruto. My view on this naruto will be successfull in having a family.
But with whom??


Kushina saying try to find someone like me. (Sakura)

So for my opininion we know how it will end.

[Paptala]

This has probably already been suggested, but I had a thought.

What if Obito says to Naruto, after the flashback, something along the lines of "How would you feel if the girl you loved was killed by one of the people you trusted the most?" and then Naruto pictures Sakura in his mind.

It would at least serve to quiet the fans who think that Naruto loves Hinata now and/or no longer loves Sakura.

It seems simple enough that Kishi may likely do something to this effect in the upcoming chapters - it would be a foil of sorts to Sakura's scene in 540 when she pictures Sasuke, only here, thinking of Sakura and how he will never let anything like that happen to her, will give him strength and resolve.

Edited by Paptala, 15 October 2012 - 08:04 PM.

[PhenixElite]

This has probably already been suggested, but I had a thought.

What if Obito says to Naruto, after the flashback, something along the lines of "How would you feel if the girl you loved was killed by one of the people you trusted the most?" and then Naruto pictures Sakura in his mind.

It would at least serve to quiet the fans who think that Naruto loves Hinata now and/or no longer loves Sakura.

It seems simple enough that Kishi may likely do something to this effect in the upcoming chapters - it would be a foil of sorts to Sakura's scene in 540 when she pictures Sasuke, only here, thinking of Sakura and how he will never let anything like that happen to her, will give him strength and resolve.

Yep! Iam sure obito will comment or do something if he sees naruto and sakura togheter, But im not sure what.
I personally think Naruto and sakura and the rest of the alliance are going to fight madara together. Iam also pretty sure that naruto and sakura are getting closer during this fight, maybe because she finds out that naruto and kurama are firends now and is impressed about narutos bijuu mode.

to add:

Maybe Sakura already came to an answer about her feelings for naruto, after the lover nin scene. I mean in chapter 573, sakura looks so determined while thinking of naruto, that it wouldnt be a big surprise for me.
But maybe its also just meaningless i mean who knows.

[Qia]

Maybe Sakura already came to an answer about her feelings for naruto, after the lover nin scene. I mean in chapter 573, sakura looks so determined while thinking of naruto, that it wouldnt be a big surprise for me.
But maybe its also just meaningless i mean who knows.

I actually thought about this as well...especially with the words she uses and the way it's written. But I don't know I could be thinking too much about it. But it could be foreshadowing?

[TouKen4Life3g]

This has probably already been suggested, but I had a thought.

What if Obito says to Naruto, after the flashback, something along the lines of "How would you feel if the girl you loved was killed by one of the people you trusted the most?" and then Naruto pictures Sakura in his mind.

It would at least serve to quiet the fans who think that Naruto loves Hinata now and/or no longer loves Sakura.

It seems simple enough that Kishi may likely do something to this effect in the upcoming chapters - it would be a foil of sorts to Sakura's scene in 540 when she pictures Sasuke, only here, thinking of Sakura and how he will never let anything like that happen to her, will give him strength and resolve.

Hm, good point.

Here's the thing, I don't know what's Obito's next move, but somehow I think Kishi can't escape this without bringing Naruto into the mix. This is the guy who destroyed Naruto's family. There's no way Naruto won't get involve with this. He's been told to stop him at all cost, so he will jump in. Madara may be in the way, but Kakashi is in nervous wreck and already to do anything else. Gai could something but Obito will be ready to strike him down, making that moment as ironic (Gai beaten Obito in the past, now vice versa). The least we can get is Kakashi telling Obito that his team reminds him of their old team and Naruto is the same as Obito. This flashback has a purpose and it's not just telling us why he has become evil. It will connect to the recent developments.

I don't know, I think we already assume that Naruto still loves Sakura. How can you change it up now in which makes no sense? Again, he should have throw the towel back in the end of part 1, but he didn't. Why? Because he's not going to give up and we know now that the reason why he didn't confess is because he feels guilty for not able to keep the promise to the one he loves. He cares for her so much. He managed to keep her smile after the Sasuke fight. It's sad that Naruto doesn't really know that Sakura is willing to drop the whole thing just for him to be safe. Remember, he was in Kyuubi mode when she cried and begged Naruto to forget it and let others to do it. I'm glad he got told by Itachi about doing everything himself.

As I said before, there's many time to establish Hinata as a love interest, but Kishi passed this so many times, it only comes out rushed and unbelievable in my opinion. It will be forced and that's the last thing Kishi wants to do. I won't be surprised that he was asked to do more panel time for Hinata by editors and what not. He won't change the story, or else for we all know he will be like Akira Toriyama, piss people off with illogical sense. He's not mad, just exhausted. Rightfully so, because if you ever look at the schedule of a mangaka, it's not easy. Plus, he has a family, so yeah. I can rant but I think I will save it when the time is right.

[Paptala]

Hm, good point.

Here's the thing, I don't know what's Obito's next move, but somehow I think Kishi can't escape this without bringing Naruto into the mix. This is the guy who destroyed Naruto's family. There's no way Naruto won't get involve with this. He's been told to stop him at all cost, so he will jump in. Madara may be in the way, but Kakashi is in nervous wreck and already to do anything else. Gai could something but Obito will be ready to strike him down, making that moment as ironic (Gai beaten Obito in the past, now vice versa). The least we can get is Kakashi telling Obito that his team reminds him of their old team and Naruto is the same as Obito. This flashback has a purpose and it's not just telling us why he has become evil. It will connect to the recent developments.

Oh I agree, there's definitely no way that Naruto is not going to get involved in this fight, especially since Kakashi is currently feeling too guilty (?) to even defend himself, and Naruto is the most powerful one there.

I hadn't thought of Kakashi telling Obito that his new team is similar to there's, including the similarity between Naruto and Obito, but that's also a definite possibility. The parallels are just thrust so obviously in our faces that its rather difficult to see them not being brought up/being utilized in some way for comparison later.

I don't know, I think we already assume that Naruto still loves Sakura. How can you change it up now in which makes no sense? Again, he should have throw the towel back in the end of part 1, but he didn't. Why? Because he's not going to give up and we know now that the reason why he didn't confess is because he feels guilty for not able to keep the promise to the one he loves. He cares for her so much. He managed to keep her smile after the Sasuke fight. It's sad that Naruto doesn't really know that Sakura is willing to drop the whole thing just for him to be safe. Remember, he was in Kyuubi mode when she cried and begged Naruto to forget it and let others to do it. I'm glad he got told by Itachi about doing everything himself.

As I said before, there's many time to establish Hinata as a love interest, but Kishi passed this so many times, it only comes out rushed and unbelievable in my opinion. It will be forced and that's the last thing Kishi wants to do. I won't be surprised that he was asked to do more panel time for Hinata by editors and what not. He won't change the story, or else for we all know he will be like Akira Toriyama, piss people off with illogical sense. He's not mad, just exhausted. Rightfully so, because if you ever look at the schedule of a mangaka, it's not easy. Plus, he has a family, so yeah. I can rant but I think I will save it when the time is right.

I'm not quite sure if I'm understanding you correctly, but I definitely have no issue with any of the above. To me, and all other NaruSaku (and some few non-NaruSaku fans), its obvious that Naruto still loves Sakura, that Sakura's care for Naruto is emphasized more than her care for anyone else, and that it is no longer really feasible to think that Naruto is suddenly going to fall in love with Hinata at this point.

However, I was referring to quieting a vocal majority who continue to insist that Naruto no longer loves Sakura and is falling in love with Hinata.

I've already said this, but I staunchly believe that the sudden focus on Hinata's feelings is all about closing up her character development just like the other secondary/tertiary characters in this arc, and to create tension in the romance plot.

We've got roughly 72 (exactly a year and a half with no breaks or holidays accounted for)-100 chapters left (given the time frame that Kishi estimated until he would be finished). Obito and Kakashi need to sort out their stuff, Madara needs to be defeated, the incomplete Juubi needs to be defeated, the issue with the Kages need to be resolved, Naruto and Sasuke need to fight, everyone in Team 7 needs to complete their character development, and the romance subplot needs to be resolved.

Yep! Iam sure obito will comment or do something if he sees naruto and sakura togheter, But im not sure what.
I personally think Naruto and sakura and the rest of the alliance are going to fight madara together. Iam also pretty sure that naruto and sakura are getting closer during this fight, maybe because she finds out that naruto and kurama are firends now and is impressed about narutos bijuu mode.

I'm fairly certain that the rookies will be involved in the battle one way or another. If they weren't, then there really wouldn't any point in them racing towards Naruto's position.

Maybe Sakura already came to an answer about her feelings for naruto, after the lover nin scene. I mean in chapter 573, sakura looks so determined while thinking of naruto, that it wouldnt be a big surprise for me.
But maybe its also just meaningless i mean who knows.

I can't see Sakura coming to that answer off panel, since it will a pivotal scene in the romance subplot. We will definitely get to see Sakura's realizing what Naruto means to her on panel

Edited by Paptala, 15 October 2012 - 09:21 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I'm not quite sure if I'm understanding you correctly, but I definitely have no issue with any of the above. To me, and all other NaruSaku (and some few non-NaruSaku fans), its obvious that Naruto still loves Sakura, that Sakura's care for Naruto is emphasized more than her care for anyone else, and that it is no longer really feasible to think that Naruto is suddenly going to fall in love with Hinata at this point.

However, I was referring to quieting a vocal majority who continue to insist that Naruto no longer loves Sakura and is falling in love with Hinata.

I've already said this, but I staunchly believe that the sudden focus on Hinata's feelings is all about closing up her character development just like the other secondary/tertiary characters in this arc, and to create tension in the romance plot.

We've got roughly 72 (exactly a year and a half with no breaks or holidays accounted for)-100 chapters left (given the time frame that Kishi estimated until he would be finished). Obito and Kakashi need to sort out their stuff, Madara needs to be defeated, the incomplete Juubi needs to be defeated, the issue with the Kages need to be resolved, Naruto and Sasuke need to fight, everyone in Team 7 needs to complete their character development, and the romance subplot needs to be resolved.

I'm fairly certain that the rookies will be involved in the battle one way or another. If they weren't, then there really wouldn't any point in them racing towards Naruto's position.

I can't see Sakura coming to that answer off panel, since it will a pivotal scene in the romance subplot. We will definitely get to see Sakura's realizing what Naruto means to her on panel

Great post.

I was trying to say that Naruto still loves Sakura and nothing will change that. People wants to believe that Naruto dropped his feelings for Sakura because he didn't bring it up. To me, that's nonsense because if he was to drop his feelings, shouldn't that be addressed in panel? And for that manner, shouldn't he be the one that we continue to root for to win everything he dreams? His conversation with Hinata is basically similar to what he said to Konohamaru: nothing romantic, but happy for the person. Naruto finally got rid of addressing side characters who had development during Pain Invasion. Hinata's part was missing until this arc. That was it. Now, the main focus is finally on the main characters and it all started with Sasuke. That's why people were getting tired because there hasn't been any developments on the main plot. While it was enjoyable, but now, the real developments begin.

Yeah, the rookies will get spotlight in this battle, but they will be like in the background doing their last cool moments. Kind of like in Movie 3, where all of them do something cool. Other than that, it will stop there and continue to fight in the background. The main characters will be the main focus. Probably Shikamaru will be there, judging the treatment he got from Kishi. Kishi works hard on the main characters alone. Now, he's just doing others favors by putting a lot of other characters to get the moment. Nevertheless, it will all go back to the main characters. Sakura, like Naruto and the rest, gotten tidbits developments during this arc, questioning her feelings for Sasuke and determined that this time she will be on his side as well as everyone. Her big development will come from Tsunade's situation (dead or barely alive).

The last thing we need, which I doubt from this point on, is being shoved to our throats with Hinata. I don't hate her, if I may address this, but let's face it. Like the rest, minus Sai in some form, she has nothing for the plot. You can try to say the same for Sakura, but the thing is that she's part of Team 7, which is in trouble with different situations, very protective of Naruto, and now, Tsunade is in deep trouble, which will hurt her a lot. She has more connections to the plot than any other rookies. Also, she is known to be a normal girl who's with special kind of people (Uzumaki, Uchiha) that happened to be powerful and supernatural for her to handle. It's like me going to DBZ world and yeah, I will be jaw dropping.

[PhenixElite]

Oh I agree, there's definitely no way that Naruto is not going to get involved in this fight, especially since Kakashi is currently feeling too guilty (?) to even defend himself, and Naruto is the most powerful one there.

I hadn't thought of Kakashi telling Obito that his new team is similar to there's, including the similarity between Naruto and Obito, but that's also a definite possibility. The parallels are just thrust so obviously in our faces that its rather difficult to see them not being brought up/being utilized in some way for comparison later.

I'm not quite sure if I'm understanding you correctly, but I definitely have no issue with any of the above. To me, and all other NaruSaku (and some few non-NaruSaku fans), its obvious that Naruto still loves Sakura, that Sakura's care for Naruto is emphasized more than her care for anyone else, and that it is no longer really feasible to think that Naruto is suddenly going to fall in love with Hinata at this point.

However, I was referring to quieting a vocal majority who continue to insist that Naruto no longer loves Sakura and is falling in love with Hinata.

I've already said this, but I staunchly believe that the sudden focus on Hinata's feelings is all about closing up her character development just like the other secondary/tertiary characters in this arc, and to create tension in the romance plot.

We've got roughly 72 (exactly a year and a half with no breaks or holidays accounted for)-100 chapters left (given the time frame that Kishi estimated until he would be finished). Obito and Kakashi need to sort out their stuff, Madara needs to be defeated, the incomplete Juubi needs to be defeated, the issue with the Kages need to be resolved, Naruto and Sasuke need to fight, everyone in Team 7 needs to complete their character development, and the romance subplot needs to be resolved.

I'm fairly certain that the rookies will be involved in the battle one way or another. If they weren't, then there really wouldn't any point in them racing towards Naruto's position.

I can't see Sakura coming to that answer off panel, since it will a pivotal scene in the romance subplot. We will definitely get to see Sakura's realizing what Naruto means to her on panel

Well! Very nice post indeed.
I agree, i cant see a way that leads to NH or SS since all the development we got till now.
I mean if we look back at the whole story and now imagine NH or SS, that would totally destroy the whole manga and im not only saying that because im a NS supporter.
Why should kishi end this manga without making his main character reaching the goals of his life.

As kishi mentioned before, he made this manga to leave a message to the younger generation and i think it wouldnt be that great to show a message where the main characters does eveything for his love interest and then ends up without her.

[KnS]

I was trying to say that Naruto still loves Sakura and nothing will change that. People wants to believe that Naruto dropped his feelings for Sakura because he didn't bring it up.

I'm not sure which "he" you mean there, Naruto or Kishimoto, but it doesn't actually matter.

In support of everything you're saying I would like to remind everyone that during her confession, Sakura said to Naruto, "If you don't like me then just say so! Don't try to turn things around--" With that set up, Naruto had a perfect opportunity to say he didn't, or otherwise indicate that he had dropped or wanted to drop his feelings for Sakura, but he did not. His response was to say, "But this makes no sense! Why would you bother coming all the way here just for that?"

The fact that Naruto did not deny his feelings, or even come anywhere close to denying them, was tacit confirmation that he still loves her. Neither Naruto nor Kishimoto has brought it up again since because there has been no reason to do so. There has been no sign of any kind that Naruto's feelings for Sakura have changed, much less in favor of Hinata.

Edited by KnS, 15 October 2012 - 10:37 PM.

[redragon88]

Well! Very nice post indeed.
I agree, i cant see a way that leads to NH or SS since all the development we got till now.
I mean if we look back at the whole story and now imagine NH or SS, that would totally destroy the whole manga and im not only saying that because im a NS supporter.
Why should kishi end this manga without making his main character reaching the goals of his life.

As kishi mentioned before, he made this manga to leave a message to the younger generation and i think it wouldnt be that great to show a message where the main characters does eveything for his love interest and then ends up without her.

Yeah. If Kishi doesn't at least imply that Naruto and Sakura will start a relationship in the future then this will be the overall message:

"Kids, if you work hard and never give up you'll be able to get the respect of your friends (Konoha village), help people when they need it (Sasuke), get the job you have always dreamed of (Hokage), influence your community for a better tomorrow (saving the world), but don't even try to win over the person you like because it will never happen (Sakura). Even though you have become this great person you'll always be alone in your empty home without someone you love to welcome you."

Given how even Road to Ninja focused on how Naruto felt bad about not having anyone at his home to receive him, this would be the worst message in history. Imagine all those middle schoolers (who Kishi said his manga was aimed for) putting all their faith in Naruto achieving his dreams only for him to reluctantly accept that Sakura will never love him even though he tried so hard. Those poor kids are gonna feel so disillusioned, some might even not get the courage to talk to girls thinking that it will be a waste of time just like it was useless with Naruto.

Naruto is meant to be a role model, so what would that say of Kishi's validity as a write if he doesn't get Sakura's love? Especially when trying to win over the one you like is one of the things growing teens, who are supposed to be Kishi's target demographic, struggle with the most.

Edited by redragon88, 15 October 2012 - 11:59 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah. If Kishi doesn't at least imply that Naruto and Sakura will start a relationship in the future then this will be the overall message:

"Kids, if you work hard and never give up you'll be able to get the respect of your friends (Konoha village), help people when they need it (Sasuke), get the job you have always dreamed of (Hokage), influence your community for a better tomorrow (saving the world), but don't even try to win over the person you like because it will never happen (Sakura). Even though you have become this great person you'll always be alone in your empty home without someone you love to welcome you."

Given how even Road to Ninja focused on how Naruto felt bad about not having anyone at his home to receive him, this would be the worst message in history. Imagine all those middle schoolers (who Kishi said his manga was aimed for) putting all their faith in Naruto achieving his dreams only for him to reluctantly accept that Sakura will never love him even though he tried so hard. Those poor kids are gonna feel so disillusioned, some might even not get the courage to talk to girls thinking that it will be a waste of time just like it was useless with Naruto.

Naruto is meant to be a role model, so what would that say of Kishi's validity as a write if he doesn't get Sakura's love? Especially when trying to win over the one you like is one of the things growing teens, who are supposed to be Kishi's target demographic, struggle with the most.

I admit, that was unintentionally funny. I agree with you. We are following Naruto as he represent us. That's why Kishi keeps telling us to continue to support Naruto, the main character, not just the manga. Even the recent movie picture he drew said so. Kids are growing up and love is something that they will soon get interest in. Naruto is showing us that a loser can get a girl he likes. It's about timing and not giving up. Friendship first, lover next.

I agree with you about the movie as well. It has a good message in many ways (not having parents = sad, people who cares is good enough, etc.). Kishi is sending message through Naruto, hence his epic speeches for lots of things. Imagine if he killed Nagato, while it makes sense, it's really not a good sign on his character (proving Sasuke's right, bad role model). Naruto is doing the good deeds and let us believe that his way is the way we should take note.