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[JIN KAZAMA]

That right there is the entire development and build up for NS since the beginning of the manga. Now after seeing that what are the odds of NH and SS becoming canon?

you need to ask naruhina and sasusaku fans ?

naruto loves sakura , and sakura loves naruto
that is too obvious for me

Edited by JIN KAZAMA, 12 October 2012 - 11:51 AM.

[narulsaku]

That right there is the entire development and build up for NS since the beginning of the manga. Now after seeing that what are the odds of NH and SS becoming canon?

humm. There wasnt NS at first of the manga. yeha naruto loved sakura from the begging . but sakura was full with hatred. haha. but as the manga went on. NS went towards its destination . sakura loved sasuke the most in my opinion till the chunin exam. then when sasuke went away . she slowly fell in love with naruto. she began to care about naruto. and from there we have got recent chapter. NS is not far.

[sushi.]

humm. There wasnt NS at first of the manga. yeha naruto loved sakura from the begging . but sakura was full with hatred. haha. but as the manga went on. NS went towards its destination . sakura loved sasuke the most in my opinion till the chunin exam. then when sasuke went away . she slowly fell in love with naruto. she began to care about naruto. and from there we have got recent chapter. NS is not far.

Wow there. She clearly never felt any hatred towards Naruto, or anyone in particular. And I don't think she loved Sasuke in part 1. They did not communicate enough to develop a bond so deep as love. But I think she considered him as a friend, and if you add the crush she had on him, it's easy to confuse that with love.

Don't get me wrong, Sasuke is very important to Sakura. We shouldn't underestimate what he means to her. But she could not truly love him when she knew nothing about him.

Edited by sushi., 12 October 2012 - 07:15 PM.

[narulsaku]

yeha shusi i can understand what you are saying bu she liked sasuke didnt she i think i shoul write that. and about naruto she said the only thing she hate was naruto . in the 1st episode. after that she become caring for him. especially after naruto made a promise tha he ll bring sasuke back

[Arachnia]

Alot of people say that the latest chapters of naruto with obito progress cant be good for Narusaku i dont really get it some1?

Actually i have a theory on obito if he will redeem him self like alot of people thinks he will then mabey its him seeing naruto care for a girl (mabey Sakura) too save her and obito sees him self in naruto.
Like we all know Obito's trauma happend cause of Rin mabey seeing something similar will make him confused about everthing madara has told him something like that. But hell it can also power up hes way of thinking this useless world...

but who knows

Edited by Arachnia, 13 October 2012 - 02:36 AM.

[Gravenimage]

humm. There wasnt NS at first of the manga. yeha naruto loved sakura from the begging . but sakura was full with hatred. haha. but as the manga went on. NS went towards its destination . sakura loved sasuke the most in my opinion till the chunin exam. then when sasuke went away . she slowly fell in love with naruto. she began to care about naruto. and from there we have got recent chapter. NS is not far.

No double posting please edit and delete.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Alot of people say that the latest chapters of naruto with obito progress cant be good for Narusaku i dont really get it some1?

Actually i have a theory on obito if he will redeem him self like alot of people thinks he will then mabey its him seeing naruto care for a girl (mabey Sakura) too save her and obito sees him self in naruto.
Like we all know Obito's trauma happend cause of Rin mabey seeing something similar will make him confused about everthing madara has told him something like that. But hell it can also power up hes way of thinking this useless world...

but who knows

I remember I was complaining not to long ago after Kabuto got beat, that Kishi needs to stop ruining villains by redeeming them all the time and making you feel bad for them. Now though, after realizing Tobi is Obito and seeing his fall to darkness, I really want him to be redeemed. It'd just be too heartbreaking to see Obito stay evil.

I don't understand why people are saying that. Naruto already surpassed Obito in most aspects ( Saved girl he loved by a Chidori by best friend, consequently not turning evil like Obito) and now all he needs to do is tell Sakura how he feels which Obito never did. I can see Naruto saying something to him like he understands why he became like this and might put himself in his place if that happened to Sakura and Sasuke killed her but would also say he was doing the wrong thing and that Rin would never have wanted this of him. " This isn't how you're supposed to honor her memory! " or something along those lines coming from Naruto.

What do you guys think?

[Arachnia]

I remember I was complaining not to long ago after Kabuto got beat, that Kishi needs to stop ruining villains by redeeming them all the time and making you feel bad for them. Now though, after realizing Tobi is Obito and seeing his fall to darkness, I really want him to be redeemed. It'd just be too heartbreaking to see Obito stay evil.

I don't understand why people are saying that. Naruto already surpassed Obito in most aspects ( Saved girl he loved by a Chidori by best friend, consequently not turning evil like Obito) and now all he needs to do is tell Sakura how he feels which Obito never did. I can see Naruto saying something to him like he understands why he became like this and might put himself in his place if that happened to Sakura and Sasuke killed her but would also say he was doing the wrong thing and that Rin would never have wanted this of him. " This isn't how you're supposed to honor her memory! " or something along those lines coming from Naruto.

What do you guys think?

idd perfect.

But i think in the end obito will die and yea he is actually the only 1 i ever wanted too see redeemed because of hes long story in the manga from ultimate good guy too ultimate evil well not even evil but confused about whats right or wrong but still keep in mind he was 12-13 when all of this happend too him not older then naruto was when he was struggling with the ninetails only difference is that naruto was saved by his sensei/friends and Obito has no 1 left on that point.

but anyway i think Obito has a part too play in narusaku

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

idd perfect.

But i think in the end obito will die and yea he is actually the only 1 i ever wanted too see redeemed because of hes long story in the manga from ultimate good guy too ultimate evil well not even evil but confused about whats right or wrong but still keep in mind he was 12-13 when all of this happend too him not older then naruto was when he was struggling with the ninetails only difference is that naruto was saved by his sensei/friends and Obito has no 1 left on that point.

but anyway i think Obito has a part too play in narusaku

I don't picture Obito living if I'm honest. Even Sasuke has a greater chance of living than Obito, sad to say. He's commited too many murders and atrocities to be able to live. But I hope he realizes he was being wrong, all the same. True. Obito is the 'What if' path for Naruto. A possible path Naruto could have taken but didn't. Sort of like Naruto saying he could've ended up like Sasuke but was saved by Iruka and Team 7.

Obito probably will play a part in NS. Like I said, Naruto will find out his story, feel for him and wonder if that could ever happen to him but rise above it by saying Rin would never have wanted Obito to do all of this. That's the way I see it.

[Codus N]

I don't picture Obito living if I'm honest. Even Sasuke has a greater chance of living than Obito, sad to say. He's commited too many murders and atrocities to be able to live. But I hope he realizes he was being wrong, all the same. True. Obito is the 'What if' path for Naruto. A possible path Naruto could have taken but didn't. Sort of like Naruto saying he could've ended up like Sasuke but was saved by Iruka and Team 7.

Obito probably will play a part in NS. Like I said, Naruto will find out his story, feel for him and wonder if that could ever happen to him but rise above it by saying Rin would never have wanted Obito to do all of this. That's the way I see it.

Although it is likely that Naruto will help him change his mind, but I feel that if there has to be someone to tell him Rin wouldn't have wanted this, it would be Sakura. This is because her saying that would be more effective as Sakura is almost a splitting image of Rin. I'm damn sure that Obito sees the image of Rin in Sakura in all the times he's met her.

[Branden]

I remember I was complaining not to long ago after Kabuto got beat, that Kishi needs to stop ruining villains by redeeming them all the time and making you feel bad for them. Now though, after realizing Tobi is Obito and seeing his fall to darkness, I really want him to be redeemed. It'd just be too heartbreaking to see Obito stay evil.

I don't understand why people are saying that. Naruto already surpassed Obito in most aspects ( Saved girl he loved by a Chidori by best friend, consequently not turning evil like Obito) and now all he needs to do is tell Sakura how he feels which Obito never did. I can see Naruto saying something to him like he understands why he became like this and might put himself in his place if that happened to Sakura and Sasuke killed her but would also say he was doing the wrong thing and that Rin would never have wanted this of him. " This isn't how you're supposed to honor her memory! " or something along those lines coming from Naruto.

What do you guys think?

Obito's quest is world peace. He no longer cares for anything but peace. It isn't as simple as you think for him to change.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Obito's quest is world peace. He no longer cares for anything but peace. It isn't as simple as you think for him to change.

I know that. I wouldn't be easy at all but I still will be upset if he stays evil. If he does change, I expect something like 'Redemption by death' (Really the only way to go if Kishi decides to go that route. )


Of course if he stays evil, I'l get over it. It's not like it's bad storytelling, it's actually good storytelling, but I'd prefer if he learned the errors of his ways and then died. Saying that though, I'm usually not fond of Kishi ruining villains (Like Nagato and Kabuto for example) so I hope Madara ends up being the only villain with no sad backstory and only wants power. I know he was mentioning peace or something in the earlier chapters but something tells me he was just lying and manipulating Obito.

[Branden]

I know that. I wouldn't be easy at all but I still will be upset if he stays evil. If he does change, I expect something like 'Redemption by death' (Really the only way to go if Kishi decides to go that route. )


Of course if he stays evil, I'l get over it. It's not like it's bad storytelling, it's actually good storytelling, but I'd prefer if he learned the errors of his ways and then died. Saying that though, I'm usually not fond of Kishi ruining villains (Like Nagato and Kabuto for example) so I hope Madara ends up being the only villain with no sad backstory and only wants power. I know he was mentioning peace or something in the earlier chapters but something tells me he was just lying and manipulating Obito.

the whole "redemption by death" thing has always been terrible story writing in my opinion. its basically admitting that you have no idea what to do with the character. Obito is evil for the right reasons in a way. his goal is to basically to grant everybody their greatest dreams in a genjutsu world so that there can be ever lasting peace. the problem is that no matter what you do you're living in a fake world controlled by someone else. honestly its a very weird situation that involves a lot of highly controversial philosophical issues. all in all if he's dedicated to peace, he is going to either achieve peace or die trying. there's really no middle ground for his type of character unless kishi wants to do some bad writing.

[candycane-chan]

/\ well from the latest chapter I got confused on whether the point was to show that obito will never change or whether to make us more sympathetic towrads ( since what he saw wasn't easy) him so that his redmption would be more acceptable.
but making him die after being redeamed is too much angst .and who would even do the redemption part,naruto doesn't seem interested to listen at the moment ,which is fine considering they're on the battle field and kakashi seems more confused then ever to be able to save obito since he himself can't seem to map it up,and all these sudden revelations will probably send him through a guilt trip

anther thing: how long do you think the flashbacks will last ,i think we might get those flashback in a flashback so that we would find out kakashi's reason

Edited by candycane-chan, 13 October 2012 - 01:39 PM.

[Branden]

[candycane-chan]

/\
this is the onlyway I can see an explanation on why kakashi did what he did since everybody is well....a ripped body,besides won't be the first time it happens

[Arachnia]

I know that. I wouldn't be easy at all but I still will be upset if he stays evil. If he does change, I expect something like 'Redemption by death' (Really the only way to go if Kishi decides to go that route. )


Of course if he stays evil, I'l get over it. It's not like it's bad storytelling, it's actually good storytelling, but I'd prefer if he learned the errors of his ways and then died. Saying that though, I'm usually not fond of Kishi ruining villains (Like Nagato and Kabuto for example) so I hope Madara ends up being the only villain with no sad backstory and only wants power. I know he was mentioning peace or something in the earlier chapters but something tells me he was just lying and manipulating Obito.

Madara already had hes flashback hes doing this because hes brother dying in feign and stuff like that.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I don't picture Obito living if I'm honest. Even Sasuke has a greater chance of living than Obito, sad to say. He's commited too many murders and atrocities to be able to live. But I hope he realizes he was being wrong, all the same. True. Obito is the 'What if' path for Naruto. A possible path Naruto could have taken but didn't. Sort of like Naruto saying he could've ended up like Sasuke but was saved by Iruka and Team 7.

Obito probably will play a part in NS. Like I said, Naruto will find out his story, feel for him and wonder if that could ever happen to him but rise above it by saying Rin would never have wanted Obito to do all of this. That's the way I see it.

The problem is what he did is really wrong?
He should be dead if wanst madara, if he wasnt alive kakashi would die too, or do you think that mist ninjas would not kill kakashi too?
The picture is all three should be dead, when rin died he said he was in hell, different than naruto and nagato, obito does not have a desire for revenge is more complex than nagato, nagato wanted revenge on konoha and this revenge make his desire for peace he wanted to achieve peace thought revenge, obito has no desire for revenge he does not even want revenge on kakashi for rin's death, obito's redemption for me will be one of the biggest mistakes of kishimoto, lately logic does not even apply to this manga so if some random ninja appears using "hadouken" i will accept it.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

The problem is what he did is really wrong?
He should be dead if wanst madara, if he wasnt alive kakashi would die too, or do you think that mist ninjas would not kill kakashi too?
The picture is all three should be dead, when rin died he said he was in hell, different than naruto and nagato, obito does not have a desire for revenge is more complex than nagato, nagato wanted revenge on konoha and this revenge make his desire for peace he wanted to achieve peace thought revenge, obito has no desire for revenge he does not even want revenge on kakashi for rin's death, obito's redemption for me will be one of the biggest mistakes of kishimoto, lately logic does not even apply to this manga so if some random ninja appears using "hadouken" i will accept it.

I'm not saying Kishi will redeem him. I'm not even that sure if Obito will even change again. Just putting my opinion out there. And Tobi's redemption might be bad for the story. Who knows.

[Branden]

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