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[TouKen4Life3g]

That reminds me, I feel a little bad for Tokyokit. You couldn't see his face but you could hear from his tome of voice that he was pretty upset that the NaruHina build up from the previous chapter didn't lead to anything.

I think in Sakura's press conference she just got upset at people meddling in her love life, regardless of how she feels. It's a delicate issue enough when you have to think about it by yourself, so having a lot of people press for an answer really doesn't help.

You know, I didn't see the review on chapter 615 from him until today. I must say talk about exposing yourself. But I still respect him. I just thought he was more like collective like how I waited for next chapter, but I guess people can get carry away. That explains the lack of details of NS bonds in RtN movie review (minus the ending). I made a post in his review saying that it's all Hinata's development all this time and said it's back to the drawing board. Hm, I wonder what happens if NS becomes canon.

Sakura's press conference? Hm, I should check that part out. It seems her love life is really the important one because well, she holds the ball. I really think NS will become canon. It just need that one push. When will that be, I wonder...

[Nefertieh]

There are a few posts floating on Tumblr regarding the current pairing popularity polls in Japan right now. Well, usually I don't care for non-scientific statistics, but it just seems odd that there are several different results popping up right now, with no source. Does anyone know if an official pairing poll exists?

You know, I didn't see the review on chapter 615 from him until today. I must say talk about exposing yourself. But I still respect him. I just thought he was more like collective like how I waited for next chapter, but I guess people can get carry away. That explains the lack of details of NS bonds in RtN movie review (minus the ending). I made a post in his review saying that it's all Hinata's development all this time and said it's back to the drawing board. Hm, I wonder what happens if NS becomes canon.

Well, nothing is sealed in stone. Even though 615 did not confirm naruhina canon, it was still a very naruhina chapter.

[TouKen4Life3g]

There are a few posts floating on Tumblr regarding the current pairing popularity polls in Japan right now. Well, usually I don't care for non-scientific statistics, but it just seems odd that there are several different results popping up right now, with no source. Does anyone know if an official pairing poll exists?



Well, nothing is sealed in stone. Even though 615 did not confirm naruhina canon, it was still a very naruhina chapter.

In terms of friendship development? Yes. In terms of romance development? No. Still, they got what they want, so they should be at least happy. I think this is what Kishi had in mind.

[Chatte]

@Nefertieh... Well, my sarcastic post regarding that was...

http://chatte-georgi...n-japan-2013-by

[Nefertieh]

@Nefertieh... Well, my sarcastic post regarding that was...

http://chatte-georgi...n-japan-2013-by

Oh, about that event, it was planned before Road to Ninja was released. And it wasn't planned "by Japan," it was done by fans. =X Basically, anybody with enough money to book a showroom can hold a "pairing event."

To put things into perspective, there have been sasusaku and other Naruto pairing events held in Japan, but this is the first narusaku event as far as I'm aware of.

In terms of friendship development? Yes. In terms of romance development? No. Still, they got what they want, so they should be at least happy. I think this is what Kishi had in mind.

Not to be the devil's advocate, but she was touching his face, admiring his hand and all that. It was romantic in a similar vein as Sakura's hug. I can't imagine any shippers being completely satisfied unless their pairing is canon.

Edited by Nefertieh, 17 January 2013 - 04:35 PM.

[Chatte]

Oh, about that event, it was planned before Road to Ninja was released. And it wasn't planned "by Japan," it was done by fans. =X Basically, anybody with enough money to book a showroom can hold a "pairing event."

To put things into perspective, there have been sasusaku and other Naruto pairing events held in Japan, but this is the first narusaku event as far as I'm aware of.

Oh, oops

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Not to be the devil's advocate, but she was touching his face, admiring his hand and all that. It was romantic in a similar vein as Sakura's hug. I can't imagine any shippers being completely satisfied unless their pairing is canon.

Romance must be mutual or have a strong context.

You know the meaning of Sakura's hug right?

Just my opinion.
What made Sakura's hug romantic is not the fact that she was hugging him, but the fact that he got all the villagers acknowledgement though Sakura's hug, there's nothing more romantic than receiving those kind of acknowledgement from the girl you love.

She didnt hugged him because of love.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 17 January 2013 - 04:47 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Oh, about that event, it was planned before Road to Ninja was released. And it wasn't planned "by Japan," it was done by fans. =X Basically, anybody with enough money to book a showroom can hold a "pairing event."

To put things into perspective, there have been sasusaku and other Naruto pairing events held in Japan, but this is the first narusaku event as far as I'm aware of.



Not to be the devil's advocate, but she was touching his face, admiring his hand and all that. It was romantic in a similar vein as Sakura's hug. I can't imagine any shippers being completely satisfied unless their pairing is canon.

I was waiting for this. Here's the thing. It's one-sided. The reason why we can't say the same to our pairings is because all the shining moments comes from Sakura, who is said to be not in love with Naruto, not to mention gets told by others. Naruto hasn't got anything. There's no "Naruto, I can see it in your eyes. In reality, you're..." There's no anything romantic position by Naruto. Hand holding only reflected by Hinata. If Naruto was to comment it, then I can't really say what I'm saying now. Naruto is in love with Sakura. He is always happy and have that special smile for her. That's settled. Sakura is the one doing the move and development. Not just friendship but romantic mood, which even Naruto commented it in the feeding scene. As for SS, look above for Sasuke side, just replace Naruto.

I understand NH still has a chance but the chance that was like 50%-65% they had went down to 30%, because there was no follow up to the hand holding or any hints. This was Kishi's opportunity and he blew it. Don't tell me "war is first" because it's nothing wrong to say something in 5 seconds, especially from Naruto. He managed to tell Sakura something when many were talking to him as they arrived. He didn't even look back. I bet if NS moment happens here, then you'll be a-ok. I'm only assuming of course. Don't worry, everything will be clear by the end of this battle. Then we can tally up.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 17 January 2013 - 04:48 PM.

[merryGOflava]

...how come every time a major hinata chapter comes out

a naruhina fan joins this site......

but they always seem to leave after it's over???

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I was waiting for this. Here's the thing. It's one-sided. The reason why we can't say the same to our pairings is because all the shining moments comes from Sakura, who is said to be not in love with Naruto, not to mention gets told by others. Naruto hasn't got anything. There's no "Naruto, I can see it in your eyes. In reality, you're..." There's no anything romantic position by Naruto. Hand holding only reflected by Hinata. If Naruto was to comment it, then I can't really say what I'm saying now. Naruto is in love with Sakura. He is always happy and have that special smile for her. That's settled. Sakura is the one doing the move and development. Not just friendship but romantic mood, which even Naruto commented it in the feeding scene. As for SS, look above for Sasuke side, just replace Naruto.

I understand NH still has a chance but the chance that was like 50%-65% they had went down to 30%, because there was no follow up to the hand holding or any hints. This was Kishi's opportunity and he blew it. Don't tell me "war is first" because it's nothing wrong to say something in 5 seconds, especially from Naruto. He managed to tell Sakura something when many were talking to him as they arrived. He didn't even look back. I bet if NS moment happens here, then you'll be a-ok. I'm only assuming of course. Don't worry, everything will be clear by the end of this battle. Then we can tally up.

what was the funny thing on the handholding is while Hinata was thinking about Naruto's hand, Naruto was talking with the kyuubi

[avengeme]

i want to see sakura with a power up. imagine the damage she could do with it as she can already cause large craters and crack the ground without it.

[Sakura-san]

So I was re reading that chapter and I noticed Madara calls Hinata a "Missus", many NH fnas are saying this a another sign, like Kiba's remark when the konoha 11 got the the field.

[TouKen4Life3g]

So I was re reading that chapter and I noticed Madara calls Hinata a "Missus", many NH fnas are saying this a another sign, like Kiba's remark when the konoha 11 got the the field.

I admit, I am a little tired of this, but I am not blaming you. The final translation is "young girl" or "little girl." Someone in here has the raw script and it's confirmed. Besides, mangastream sometimes goes all out with different wordings. I mean one said "Let's go, Hinata" and the other is "Let's get this show on the road, Hinata". Same meanings, yes, but I think MS messed up in missus.

[Nefertieh]

I was waiting for this. Here's the thing. It's one-sided. The reason why we can't say the same to our pairings is because all the shining moments comes from Sakura, who is said to be not in love with Naruto, not to mention gets told by others. Naruto hasn't got anything. There's no "Naruto, I can see it in your eyes. In reality, you're..." There's no anything romantic position by Naruto. Hand holding only reflected by Hinata. If Naruto was to comment it, then I can't really say what I'm saying now. Naruto is in love with Sakura. He is always happy and have that special smile for her. That's settled. Sakura is the one doing the move and development. Not just friendship but romantic mood, which even Naruto commented it in the feeding scene. As for SS, look above for Sasuke side, just replace Naruto.

I never said the romance was mutual, but I am saying it was a romantic gesture. Not the hand holding, but the face touching and fawning from Hinata's part. And because a romantic gesture has happened between those two without a proper closure, I'm sure there would be more Naruto-Hinata drama in the future as well.

I'm not sure where Sasuke comes in here.

I understand NH still has a chance but the chance that was like 50%-65% they had went down to 30%, because there was no follow up to the hand holding or any hints. This was Kishi's opportunity and he blew it. Don't tell me "war is first" because it's nothing wrong to say something in 5 seconds, especially from Naruto. He managed to tell Sakura something when many were talking to him as they arrived. He didn't even look back. I bet if NS moment happens here, then you'll be a-ok. I'm only assuming of course. Don't worry, everything will be clear by the end of this battle. Then we can tally up.

Well, I'm just saying you shouldn't count your eggs before they hatch. For all we know, the fact that Kishimoto left Naruto and Hinata's moment hanging can be used to build up suspense and drama for in the later arcs. Honestly, at this point in the story, it would seem odd for Naruto to be paired up with anyone.

Romance must be mutual or have a strong context.

Then I would argue that touching the face of a person you love, in the middle of the battle to save the world, in order to restore his faith, is a strong context. Bear in mind that I dislike this pairing. >_>

You know the meaning of Sakura's hug right?

Just my opinion.
What made Sakura's hug romantic is not the fact that she was hugging him, but the fact that he got all the villagers acknowledgement though Sakura's hug, there's nothing more romantic than receiving those kind of acknowledgement from the girl you love.

She didnt hugged him because of love.

I'm talking about how the hug is romantic, but not overt (compared to a kiss) or mutual (except in that case, it was because Naruto was shocked, and not because he doesn't love Sakura).

Edited by Nefertieh, 17 January 2013 - 05:29 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I never said the romance was mutual, but I am saying it was a romantic gesture. Not the hand holding, but the face touching and fawning from Hinata's part. And because a romantic gesture has happened between those two without a proper closure, I'm sure there would be more Naruto-Hinata drama in the future as well.



Well, I'm just saying you shouldn't count your eggs before they hatch. For all we know, the fact that Kishimoto left Naruto and Hinata's moment hanging can be used to build up suspense and drama for in the later arcs. Honestly, at this point in the story, it would seem odd for Naruto to be paired up with anyone.

I understand the first part. The problem is that there's no backup to it. The hug wasn't necessary from Sakura and we all know that. A hit to the head will be good and not to mention, why not Hinata. The hand grabbing scene was in fact Naruto transferring chakra to Hinata. End of story. There's no comment from Naruto. He already thanked her for the wake up call. There's no more. That was the closure. The drama seems very slim, especially now we are predicting that Team 7 is in fact the ones to end this whole series.

I understand what you mean. But honestly, I think Kishi is just picking his nose and don't understand what fans meant about NH. He most likely thought only Hinata getting her development. There wasn't anything to it but that. In fact, minus the thank you, his whole revelation was that his friends/family will go so far for him and he shouldn't take it in vein, hence the title "connected." Don't be surprised if this whole thing is a Pain Arc repeat, which ironically Obito has the revival gem. I am still open for NH being canon, but Kishi really nerfed it hard to the point fans are disappointed. To be honest, any NS moment happening in this arc can really end NH in my opinion. What Naruto did to Hinata is the closest you can get to say, "Wow, I should move on." Now we wait for Naruto and Sakura's thoughts.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Then I would argue that touching the face of a person you love, in the middle of the battle to save the world, in order to restore his faith, is a strong context. Bear in mind that I dislike this pairing. >_>

Sakura touching Naruto's face in order to wake him up from a genjutsu in the middle of a battle against itachi is a strong context too?
I understand you dislike but me too, i'm not a guy that take all NS interactions as romantic as i remember there's only two-three romance scenes on NS in the middle of all the interactions, Naruto has show none for Hinata and i'm afraid it's too late to buildup NH i think, and if he starts would be bad writing, because Naruto not loving Sakura anymore when she's more close to him does not make any sense.

Even kishi says "Naruto is close but still"

I wasnt even a shipper until last year, but when i was not i thought Naruto and Sakura had more chances but i didnt care about pairings after all.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 17 January 2013 - 05:44 PM.

[Heaven on Earth]

I was waiting for this. Here's the thing. It's one-sided. The reason why we can't say the same to our pairings is because all the shining moments comes from Sakura, who is said to be not in love with Naruto, not to mention gets told by others. Naruto hasn't got anything. There's no "Naruto, I can see it in your eyes. In reality, you're..." There's no anything romantic position by Naruto. Hand holding only reflected by Hinata. If Naruto was to comment it, then I can't really say what I'm saying now. Naruto is in love with Sakura. He is always happy and have that special smile for her. That's settled. Sakura is the one doing the move and development. Not just friendship but romantic mood, which even Naruto commented it in the feeding scene. As for SS, look above for Sasuke side, just replace Naruto.

I understand NH still has a chance but the chance that was like 50%-65% they had went down to 30%, because there was no follow up to the hand holding or any hints. This was Kishi's opportunity and he blew it. Don't tell me "war is first" because it's nothing wrong to say something in 5 seconds, especially from Naruto. He managed to tell Sakura something when many were talking to him as they arrived. He didn't even look back. I bet if NS moment happens here, then you'll be a-ok. I'm only assuming of course. Don't worry, everything will be clear by the end of this battle. Then we can tally up.

that's the point
in 615, taken from Hinata's POV its romantic, but the 616 proved that there is no romantic intention from Naruto (the holding hands to channel chakra) Naruto >> Hinata, but Naruto >> Hinata was not romantic
But the hug scene, romantic side taken from the Sakura's POV (and of course we could see it from Kakashi and the people), a figure that becomes Naruto's love interest. Naruto >> Sakura (Naruto always loves Sakura) then Sakura giving feedback in this scene. Sakura >> Naruto. Sakura didnt hugged him to channel the cakra or anything, it's pure caring moment.

615 was a big Hinata moment (and NH moment for some people because it has interaction, but we saw NaruKaka, NaruShika, even big NaruNeji too, LOL) but it's always from Hinata's POV, so it's just another one sided (in romantic term)

I'm not saying NH impossible, but NS still has a better point to be canon

btw, the SasuIno panel, I still don't get it. Even she's crying, she's smiling. Look at her lips, it's different from Sakura's lips in 540 :|

Damn, where's Sai and Sakura

OOT, but cant help it, NS panel from new ED --Click here to view--

It contains SS and SN moment hahahahaa. But the other 2 just at the flashback (preshippuden) while this NS panel comes from present time (Naruto's POV)

Edited by Heaven on Earth, 17 January 2013 - 05:53 PM.

[Nefertieh]

I understand the first part. The problem is that there's no backup to it. The hug wasn't necessary from Sakura and we all know that. A hit to the head will be good and not to mention, why not Hinata. The hand grabbing scene was in fact Naruto transferring chakra to Hinata. End of story. There's no comment from Naruto. He already thanked her for the wake up call. There's no more. That was the closure. The drama seems very slim, especially now we are predicting that Team 7 is in fact the ones to end this whole series.

All I'm saying is that 615 was a chapter with Naruto-Hinata romantic interaction fanservice-y chapter because of Hinata's touching Naruto's face. I'm not comparing Naruto's chakra transferring to Sakura's hug at all. I'm comparing the fact that the gesture wasn't a kiss, and that despite the fact that Naruto didn't hug her back, we know it was romantic regardless.

I understand what you mean. But honestly, I think Kishi is just picking his nose and don't understand what fans meant about NH. He most likely thought only Hinata getting her development. There wasn't anything to it but that. In fact, minus the thank you, his whole revelation was that his friends/family will go so far for him and he shouldn't take it in vein, hence the title "connected." Don't be surprised if this whole thing is a Pain Arc repeat, which ironically Obito has the revival gem. I am still open for NH being canon, but Kishi really nerfed it hard to the point fans are disappointed. To be honest, any NS moment happening in this arc can really end NH in my opinion. What Naruto did to Hinata is the closest you can get to say, "Wow, I should move on." Now we wait for Naruto and Sakura's thoughts.

Well it is always better to be slightly cautious, at the risk of being disappointed like Tokyokit. For all we know, Hinata might get another big moment after the war (as she has hinted before).

Sakura touching Naruto's face in order to wake him up from a genjutsu in the middle of a battle against itachi is a strong context too?

The two panels aren't nearly given the same treatment. Naruto wasn't even looking at Sakura, and we all know that Itachi had no intention of even hurting Naruto.

I understand you dislike but me too, i'm not a guy that take all NS interactions as romantic as i remember there's only two-three romance scenes on NS in the middle of all the interactions, Naruto has show none for Hinata and i'm afraid it's too late to buildup NH i think, and if he starts would be bad writing, because Naruto not loving Sakura anymore when she's more close to him does not make any sense.

Even kishi says "Naruto is close but still"

I wasnt even a shipper until last year, but when i was not i thought Naruto and Sakura had more chances but i didnt care about pairings after all.

Again, I repeat: I never said that Naruto reciprocated Hinata's feelings. I was only comparing Sakura's hug to Hinata's slap because they were both romantic, despite being not overt and not mutual.

Edited by Nefertieh, 17 January 2013 - 06:01 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Fair enough. I am still on the look out for any possible NH. But if NS get a moment, which there are many ways, then NH is pretty much done to me. There's nothing else for Hinata because she got her wish. Well, she can be declared as a true heir to her clan, but that's all. But yeah, I'm on the look out, but the idea of 615 means canon is dead.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

The two panels aren't nearly given the same treatment. Naruto wasn't even looking at Sakura, and we all know that Itachi had no intention of even hurting Naruto.

Now you're talking about context?

Itachi was dangerous they dont knew that itachi had no intention, and second, the context of Hinata touching Naruto's hand was totally one sided from her it wasnt mutual, like some user posted, It was romantic from Hinata's POV.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 17 January 2013 - 06:18 PM.