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[Chew]

I suddenly felt like starting a countdown to when RtN would come out, and then I realized three things

1) I don't know its release date
2) I FORGOT HOW MANY DAYS WERE IN A YEAR FOR A SECOND
3) IT WOULD BE ABSOLUTE TORTURE...ugh just watching those days go down...;__;

oh mei gawt, mei lyfe is just...I heard Sakura fights and now I feel like someone suffering from n/s withdrawal ;__; hnnnngngngng

[ciardha]

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@dovahkiin

Shadow did reply to that question, he says that Naruto was normal around his parents but he was obsessed with power. Why would he kill Jiraiya if he was normal? Tobi only take over his body in the end.





LadyGT

Manma was evil from the start he uses to collect bijus and destroy small villages when his parents were not around, Tobi only take over his body after Manma was weakening by Naruto.

Hmm. I'm kind of questioning this one, since none of the other reviewers stated this, and several sources said that Menma was normal until Tobi takes him over. I think it might be best to take this one with a grain of salt until we have proof from the movie itself.

[Verilance]

From what I have been led to believe though the source escapes me now, is that Menma allowed the hatred of the Kyubi to gain control thus turning him evil. This is how Naruto would have been without Iruka in a sense and how Gaara used to be.

though why it did happen is a mystery...

[Strangelove]

From what I have been led to believe though the source escapes me now, is that Menma allowed the hatred of the Kyubi to gain control thus turning him evil. This is how Naruto would have been without Iruka in a sense and how Gaara used to be.

though why it did happen is a mystery...

Yeah well there is a mystery. Menma clearly has loving parents...So he is not like Gaara used to be.

Edited by Strangelove, 03 August 2012 - 08:28 PM.

[Don-kun]

Hmm. I'm kind of questioning this one, since none of the other reviewers stated this, and several sources said that Menma was normal until Tobi takes him over. I think it might be best to take this one with a grain of salt until we have proof from the movie itself.

http://www.narutofor...p...5209&page=2


This is not from me is from someone who saw the movie, I normally pay attention when someone is speaking or explaining something.

That's why I said that accepting something and ignoring the rest only make us biased. Just like SS holding and the thank you scene but ignoring the murder attempts.
Sorry if I sounded rude is just that NS is so obvious/logical (we have so much on our side) but people still refuse to accept some facts that hurts the pairing NS is nor perfect, nothing in this world is perfect.

[Verilance]

That is what I must have read as Shadow does say Menma was possessed by Dark Kyuubi, why he didn't have the strength to resist in the AU may have been Tobi's doing as we must always remember that Tobi is creating the AU with his jutsu.

maybe it his plan to use the AU Kyuubi to extract the real one?

Edited by Verilance, 03 August 2012 - 08:59 PM.

[Don-kun]

That is what I must have read as Shadow does say Menma was possessed by Dark Kyuubi, why he didn't have the strength to resist in the AU may have been Tobi's doing as we must always remember that Tobi is creating the AU with his jutsu.

maybe it his plan to use the AU Kyuubi to extract the real one?

Well we can assume Menma didn't have Iruka, Team 7, Konohamaru and Jiraiya, but I think MinaKushi should overcome that lost, honestly the only thing we have is the fact that Kishi made him bad. A loving family should evercome all the friends who save him from loneliness so is hard to tell.

[alexander]

Well we can assume Menma didn't have Iruka, Team 7, Konohamaru and Jiraiya, but I think MinaKushi should overcome that lost, honestly the only thing we have is the fact that Kishi made him bad. A loving family should evercome all the friends who save him from loneliness so is hard to tell.

And that's why it doesn't make sense to me, why a kid with such good parents would turn in someone so bad? There's gotta be more to this.

[Traci]

And that's why it doesn't make sense to me, why a kid with such good parents would turn in someone so bad? There's gotta be more to this.

Not every criminal had a bad past or bad childhood. Although, I see where you're coming from because pretty much everyone evil in Naruto had a sad past, even Kabuto.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Couple of things.

1) Does anybody knows what was Naruto doing while his jacket was unzipped and why he have a "EH!!!" reaction?

2) Okay, I got a big mission. Below is a link to possible summary in Japanese. I would like someone to translate them. S rank mission!

http://www.narutofor...;postcount=1278

Okay, have fun.

[ciardha]

http://www.narutofor...p...5209&page=2


This is not from me is from someone who saw the movie, I normally pay attention when someone is speaking or explaining something.

That's why I said that accepting something and ignoring the rest only make us biased. Just like SS holding and the thank you scene but ignoring the murder attempts.
Sorry if I sounded rude is just that NS is so obvious/logical (we have so much on our side) but people still refuse to accept some facts that hurts the pairing NS is nor perfect, nothing in this world is perfect.

Uh no, I'm a librarian. Being a librarian means being skeptical of secondhand ( or from what you originally wrote here- thirdhand: that tells you even more incomplete information from the secondhand source) information that is incomplete, shows a questionable negative slant against certain characters in way he writes about what he saw, and not stated by the other secondhand sources- movie reports.

Like your comment about Menma always being bad- from the answers Shadow contradicts what you replied here to Lady GT- "Tobi approached Menma after menma was done attacking a village. There was basically no background on menma " and more here that also contradicts your words "It seems like it was black because he was possesed by his own version of the kyuubi? I dont really know to be honest. All I know is when he ran out of chakra and tobi left his body his hair turned blonde again."

This is why I was skeptical and was right to be, your own source contradicts what you said. Some of what Shadow says in his answers also contradict a bit with what we've even seen in the released clips. So yeah I'm taking what he says with a grain of salt. And I think you don't understand what being skeptical and taking with a grain of salt means- it doesn't mean I completely discount what he says, it means I need to see firsthand proof (the movie) because of the points I made above about Shadow as a source.

See, I love to do research- which is why I am a librarian, and have learned to be skeptical of source material that sets off my warning bells. This is why when I become fascinated by a subject I read about it voraciously, so I can cross reference and see what shows up in multiple sources, and if so, how its reported. A source that shows an clear negative bias is a weak source, weaker than even a source with positive bias. (That's a point few people outside of serious researchers know anymore. I see so many modern reporters on TV don't know this and thus do poor journalism- Oh how far journalism has fallen since the peak of investigative reporting in the 1970's.... Glad I lived through that decade and had a fascination with investigative reporting as a girl- it gave me the foundation of how to do good research. Heh, I hate writing papers though, which is why I'm a librarian not a professor, if journalism hadn't sunk so low and become just an arm of their corporate owners I might have gone into journalism. Plus geeks of all types are much more common and accepted amongst librarians than amongst journalists or even college professors.)

That Japanese person's short report of the movie that I translated did not really hit my warning bells, so while I'm still going to have a mild skepticism about it- it's still secondhand, and the person is a narusaku shipper like me- favorable bias, my gut instinct as a librarian says- good source. I'll wait to see the movie though- firsthand material.

Shadow's answers does hit my warning bells. Is he consciously distorting things? For the most part I don't think so, but sometimes his negative bias slants his words, perhaps even unconsciously. Thus my skepticism.

Edited by ciardha, 03 August 2012 - 11:04 PM.

[merryGOflava]

Couple of things.

1) Does anybody knows what was Naruto doing while his jacket was unzipped and why he have a "EH!!!" reaction?

2) Okay, I got a big mission. Below is a link to possible summary in Japanese. I would like someone to translate them. S rank mission!

http://www.narutofor...;postcount=1278

Okay, have fun.

o_o im too afriad to translate....

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

o_o im too afriad to translate....

i cant i use bing translator and make some adjust based on my little knowledge about it but all the words are on a image so i cant copy/paste.

[redragon88]

Couple of things.

1) Does anybody knows what was Naruto doing while his jacket was unzipped and why he have a "EH!!!" reaction?

2) Okay, I got a big mission. Below is a link to possible summary in Japanese. I would like someone to translate them. S rank mission!

http://www.narutofor...;postcount=1278

Okay, have fun.

Narunarunaru, if by chance you're reading this could you do us the favor of making a translation?

[ciardha]

o_o im too afriad to translate....

Why are you afraid? This report is from someone it appears to be actually Japanese (unlike Shadow who is a westerner currently living in Japan like Tokyokit) and drew some cute narusaku fanart with their report. They clearly liked the movie too since they took the time to not just write a long report but draw fanart too. I'd like to see the report from the source page.

As for translating it, I see why NaruSaku4Life3g called it S rank- yikes, that's a lot of text to translate! Don't know if I'm up to that much, I'm seeing days of translation time there for me... narunarunaru I'm sure would be much faster than me. I'm tempted though because the person sure does look to be a narusaku shipper... dang it NaruSaku4Life3g I wanted to be working on sewing a cosplay costume for the next convention I'm going to! Afraid I'm definitely not up to it tonight- been fighting off some virus since Wednesday, and I think it's about to hit the worst point now- fever is making me feel so bad right now going to have to go sleep for bit (sigh, will miss some of the prime time Olympics coverage because of this annoying virus too...)

Edited by ciardha, 04 August 2012 - 12:32 AM.

[coolcatjas]

*Fluttershy voice* oh...my...

that's so much.... I KNOW i am out of my league here... but I typed up a PORTION of what is on that website if you guys want to translate on online translators. I suggest translating one sentence at a time

this is the fourth part --Click here to view--

basically this is what I got from it... this is where sakura finds out that sasuke hits on all girls and and feels shameful. She wants to apologize to naruto and meets him at that fence scene. After she realizes Naruto likes this world, Sakura is determined to defeat Madara by herself. The writer loves how Kishimoto made Sakura a true heroine in this scene

こっからのナルトとサクラの対比がさすがでした。
サクラは家に帰って一人で、誰かと話そうと心細い気持ちで外に出ます。
そして女の子たちに囲まれてるチャラスケを発見。
チャラスケは先日サクラに言った台詞と同じ事を女の子の言っています
そしてサクラは目が覚めるわけですが、もう、このシーン切ない…！
小説版を読むと、
｢ショックを受かるというよりは――どこかで分ｋっていたような気がした。
ここに、元の世界と同じ人間のどいはしない。」
とサクラは内心思っているんです。
サクラが絡むと途端に七班は悲しくなっちゃいますねブワッ
そしてサクラはナルトの家へ向かいます、自分の部屋にあった四代目の羽織を持って。
サクラはごめん、ナルト！と窓越しに声えおかけながら中を見ると、
なんとそこには楽しそうにクシナの誕生日祝う一家の姿が…！
すごく楽しそうに笑うナルトを目にします。
サクラはそれ以上何もすることができずに一度ナルト宅から離れます。
そしてナルトが突然変わってしまったのは自分が"この場所も悪くない”
と言ったせいではないかと悔やみます。
そこでナルトの夢を思い出して、意を決してナルトを呼び出します。
このシーンも切ない…！うおおおおおお…！
「ねえ、ナルトにとって、やぱりこの世界は幸せ？」
「サクラちゃんってば何言って………」
ナルトはその先默り込んでしまいます。
そしてサクラは決意します。
（私が、マダラを倒すしかない…！）
アニメのサクラとは「don't recognize this kanji」いまし。岸本元生の描くサクラはやぱりちゃんとヒロインでした。
これが見たかったんだよ…！ありがとう岸影様…！感謝せざるをえません！（笑）

This took me forever to type up @_@
I'll try to write up the rest and translate the best I can :)

Edited by coolcatjas, 04 August 2012 - 12:38 AM.

[ciardha]

*Fluttershy voice* oh...my...

that's so much.... I KNOW i am out of my league here... but I typed up a PORTION of what is on that website if you guys want to translate on online translators. I suggest translating one sentence at a time

this is the fourth part --Click here to view--

basically this is what I got from it... this is where sakura finds out that sasuke hits on all girls and and feels shameful. She wants to apologize to naruto and meets him at that fence scene. After she realizes Naruto likes this world, Sakura is determined to defeat Madara by herself. The writer loves how Kishimoto made Sakura a true heroine in this scene

こっからのナルトとサクラの対比がさすがでした。
サクラは家に帰って一人で、誰かと話そうと心細い気持ちで外に出ます。
そして女の子たちに囲まれてるチャラスケを発見。
チャラスケは先日サクラに言った台詞と同じ事を女の子の言っています
そしてサクラは目が覚めるわけですが、もう、このシーン切ない…！
小説版を読むと、
｢ショックを受かるというよりは――どこかで分ｋっていたような気がした。
ここに、元の世界と同じ人間のどいはしない。」
とサクラは内心思っているんです。
サクラが絡むと途端に七班は悲しくなっちゃいますねブワッ
そしてサクラはナルトの家へ向かいます、自分の部屋にあった四代目の羽織を持って。
サクラはごめん、ナルト！と窓越しに声えおかけながら中を見ると、
なんとそこには楽しそうにクシナの誕生日祝う一家の姿が…！
すごく楽しそうに笑うナルトを目にします。
サクラはそれ以上何もすることができずに一度ナルト宅から離れます。
そしてナルトが突然変わってしまったのは自分が"この場所も悪くない”
と言ったせいではないかと悔やみます。
そこでナルトの夢を思い出して、意を決してナルトを呼び出します。
このシーンも切ない…！うおおおおおお…！
「ねえ、ナルトにとって、やぱりこの世界は幸せ？」
「サクラちゃんってば何言って………」
ナルトはその先默り込んでしまいます。
そしてサクラは決意します。
（私が、マダラを倒すしかない…！）
アニメのサクラとは「don't recognize this kanji」いまし。岸本元生の描くサクラはやぱりちゃんとヒロインでした。
これが見たかったんだよ…！ありがとう岸影様…！感謝せざるをえません！（笑）

This took me forever to type up @_@
I'll try to write up the rest and translate the best I can

I'll leave it you then Now off to bed for me to throw off this virus.

[4000TMNT]

I got more information from sashun08 at deviantart about the movie, is about the bath scene and the ending.

My first question: I just wanna ask did Sakura blush by the question from Hinata about Memma(Naruto) at the bath scene.

sashun08 answer: mmmm not much. She was totally blush when she got embarrassed by hinata. I remember naruto got blush when sakura ask him out...hehehe

My second question: I have another question about the ending, when Naruto ask Sakura for a another date, what was Sakura & her parents face expression when he said that.

sashun08: Sakura said in a surprise mode "We already had a longest date ever". And naruto said "EEEHHH??? You call this a date? This is not a date!". I thought this is funny especially sakura's parents didn't react on what naruto said to their daughter. It's a tease but still naruto has a courage to ask sakura for a date infront of her parents. It looks like her parents agree with it...hehhehe.I dunno what sakura response because after naruto's reaction, the scene skips to next part where naruto walks alone towards his home.

Edited by 4000TMNT, 04 August 2012 - 01:39 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I got more information from sashun08 at deviantart about the movie, is about the bath scene and the ending.

My first question: I just wanna ask did Sakura blush by the question from Hinata about Memma(Naruto) at the bath scene.

sashun08 answer: mmmm not much. She was totally blush when she got embarrassed by hinata. I remember naruto got blush when sakura ask him out...hehehe

My second question: I have another question about the ending, when Naruto ask Sakura for a another date, what was Sakura & her parents face expression when he said that.

sashun08: Sakura said in a surprise mode "We already had a longest date ever". And naruto said "EEEHHH??? You call this a date? This is not a date!". I thought this is funny especially sakura's parents didn't react on what naruto said to their daughter. It's a tease but still naruto has a courage to ask sakura for a date infront of her parents. It looks like her parents agree with it...hehhehe.I dunno what sakura response because after naruto's reaction, the scene skips to next part where naruto walks alone towards his home.

Hey thanks a lot.

About the first response, so that means she did blush. I know she turned all red after being embarrassed by AU! Hinata. So that picture is the one then, right? If true, I'm good . Pretty interesting.

Lol at second response. Well, I can't blame her to be surprise. Naruto works fast and on to a new date. Sakura should be lucky to have a man to spend with anytime, anywhere. Love the fact Kishi ended there because it only leaves wanting more from the audience. I bet now they want them to be a couple, especially for newcomers.

[redragon88]

I got more information from sashun08 at deviantart about the movie, is about the bath scene and the ending.

My first question: I just wanna ask did Sakura blush by the question from Hinata about Memma(Naruto) at the bath scene.

sashun08 answer: mmmm not much. She was totally blush when she got embarrassed by hinata. I remember naruto got blush when sakura ask him out...hehehe

My second question: I have another question about the ending, when Naruto ask Sakura for a another date, what was Sakura & her parents face expression when he said that.

sashun08: Sakura said in a surprise mode "We already had a longest date ever". And naruto said "EEEHHH??? You call this a date? This is not a date!". I thought this is funny especially sakura's parents didn't react on what naruto said to their daughter. It's a tease but still naruto has a courage to ask sakura for a date infront of her parents. It looks like her parents agree with it...hehhehe.I dunno what sakura response because after naruto's reaction, the scene skips to next part where naruto walks alone towards his home.

At Naruto wasting no time in asking Sakura for a second date, and in front of her parents no less. The guy's got swag.

In a weird way it kind of reminds me of how Karin is also bold when it comes to her feelings for Sasuke. I guess a character trait of the Uzumaki clan is how they take a direct approach when it comes to their intentions.