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#4941 merryGOflava

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 01:49 AM

ya know what i wondered???

ino and sakura acted kinda the same when they were younger. (not now of course)

so why did naruto choose sakura instead of ino?

XD i hope thats not too dumb a question..........

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 01:59 AM

It seemed Naruto found Sakura more cute/attractive to start, which isn't really easy to explain. But I think what made him fall for her completely was when she expressed her great desire to be acknowledged, which he could relate to since he felt the same.

Technically, it could have been any girl, but it was Sakura specifically he heard the words from to start with, so it was her that he fell in love with. I always like to point out that Hinata could have been the one, but missed her chance due to her inability to even talk to Naruto.

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 02:08 AM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Aug 10 2011, 01:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It seemed Naruto found Sakura more cute/attractive to start, which isn't really easy to explain. But I think what made him fall for her completely was when she expressed her great desire to be acknowledged, which he could relate to since he felt the same.

Technically, it could have been any girl, but it was Sakura specifically he heard the words from to start with, so it was her that he fell in love with. I always like to point out that Hinata could have been the one, but missed her chance due to her inability to even talk to Naruto.


but he liked her before she said all that to fake sasuke aka naruto.

remember? " a girl im interested in" the first time she was introduced?

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 02:15 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Aug 9 2011, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
remember? " a girl im interested in" the first time she was introduced?


Yeah, it said so in the manga. Hell, Viz translated his statement about her when she first appeared like this: "Sakura... she's a total babe!"

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 02:26 AM

That doesn't really contradict what I said XD He was obviously attracted to her appearance (lol, apparently even calling her a 'babe'?), but he didn't fall for her (in love) until he henged as Sasuke. Usually you start out being interested in someone due to looks or personality, but you don't immediately just love them, do you? He loved her because she was like him, which was shown he realized during the bench scene. (He even admits that in that moment he realized it... "I feel like I finally understand why I like her...") So previously he was interested in her, not knowing exactly why, until the bench scene where he defined it and it became love.

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 02:47 AM

You know, all of this talk about naruino makes me think, why couldn't Ino play the role as the possible narusaku blocker instead of Hinata? I would have felt that the romantic competition pairing would have been so much better and I, and probably some other people here, wouldn't have mind it as much.

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 02:55 AM

QUOTE (anguyen92 @ Aug 9 2011, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know, all of this talk about naruino makes me think, why couldn't Ino play the role as the possible narusaku blocker instead of Hinata? I would have felt that the romantic competition pairing would have been so much better and I, and probably some other people here, wouldn't have mind it as much.


You're not the only one who had thought of that. However, Ino's role was a rival for Sakura, so her back-up claim was to get Sasuke for "herself" instead of getting Naruto (which we all knew Sasuke didn't and still doesn't give a damn about both of the fangirls).

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 02:57 AM

part of his not choosing her tends form my view to be her bossiness. he likes assertive gals but not bossy ones. Ino at the time was --and still is honestly-- too bossy for him. Sakura was determined and thats what drew him to her.
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Posted 10 August 2011 - 03:09 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Aug 9 2011, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ya know what i wondered???

ino and sakura acted kinda the same when they were younger. (not now of course)

so why did naruto choose sakura instead of ino?

XD i hope thats not too dumb a question..........



Not exactly. Ino was and is an Alpha female as Sasuke is an Alpha male. Sakura wasn't and isn't an Alpha type, but nor is she the passive type like Hinata. I think Naruto unconsciously was drawn to Sakura because as he discovered in chapter 3, Sakura is like him. (Something repeated by other characters in part 1, and shown by Naruto and Sakura's very similar reactions to things in both part 1 and part 2.) He wasn't and isn't attracted to Hinata because she's too different from him, likely why he disliked Ino in part 1- it's the difference between being dominant and assertive. Ino is a dominant type where Naruto and Sakura are assertive types- they want positive recognition, but aren't interested in being dominant just for the sake of being dominant- that doesn't have any allure for either Naruto or Sakura. Asuma and Shikamaru both make note of that difference between Ino and Sakura during the Chunnin exams- it's one of the reasons why they think Sakura will lose to Ino before the fight even starts. (If I'm recalling correctly Kakashi thinks something like that too- but more along the lines he thinks it will be a challenge for her.)

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 03:12 AM

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 03:36 AM

QUOTE (anguyen92 @ Aug 9 2011, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know, all of this talk about naruino makes me think, why couldn't Ino play the role as the possible narusaku blocker instead of Hinata? I would have felt that the romantic competition pairing would have been so much better and I, and probably some other people here, wouldn't have mind it as much.



She could have, but it's way too late in the game for that. The other problem is that it's nothing more than a repeat of what they already went through with Sasuke. It was a rivalry that made both girls look bad because they both put their a superficial crush on a boy they didn't know ahead of their friendship (though it was Sakura who handed the physical symbol back and declared them rivals). While Asuma references it when he dies, the rivalry itself seems to have more or less dissolved after their fight in the Chunnin exams. At the very least, if it exists Kishimoto spends no time with it.

As they both, and Sakura in particular, mature as Part 1 progress, it would be a step backwards to revive a feud they appeared to get over with the only difference being the target of their affections with the added detriment of adding nothing to either character. I think instead of allow her relationship with Naruto to grow it would stunt it, especially if it looked anything it did with Sasuke.

I suppose if he wanted to pull it off he would have had to approach it differently than as a "blocker" or "competition." I think he would have to develop a meaningful relationship (I mean in the general sense, not necessarily romantic) between the two independent of Sakura rather than as a competition between Sakura and Ino. Kishi's failure to do this with Hinata is one of many reasons why I don't even see her feelings a blocker. Despite Hinata's feeling, Kisimoto hasn't spent anytime developing anything between the two other than the basic friendship that has existed since Part 1.

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 03:38 AM

^^ All right, fair enough, I was just pulling straws without really fully going back in context, btw, when I meant competition, I did not mean that in the literal sense, I just meant it in a "who's he going to have to choose" kinda sense, if it does not make sense in that context, then you can just ignore that thought then. You made some pretty good reference though.

Edit to Nate: Yep, that's what I meant and that's a fair point.

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 03:59 AM

QUOTE (anguyen92 @ Aug 9 2011, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^^ All right, fair enough, I was just pulling straws without really fully going back in context, btw, when I meant competition, I did not mean that in the literal sense, I just meant it in a "who's he going to have to choose" kinda sense, if it does not make sense in that context, then you can just ignore that thought then. You made some pretty good reference though.


Well, if you just mean straight character preference. Yeah, I'd prefer Ino over Hinata in that role. It would be one of those situations where I couldn't lose. I love the NaruIno pairing (it's my second favorite pairing), I just don't see a way to make it work in the story at this point.

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 04:30 AM

*shrugs* EH... Lets just leave it at that then happy.gif so anyways I'd like to know when everyone says here NH wouldn't work out I'd like to know your views on saying so. NOT that I disagree, I'd say so too and can not stress that enough because for me: their physical appearances don't look compatible, their personalities clash; I mean I CAN NOT imagine Hinata putting up with Naruto's hyperactivity and mischief nor having the backbone to correct or stop him if he's out of line,plus I could Imagine Naruto thinking a quiet, reserved, and shy wife is BORIIING, and most of all they personally interacted with each other one on one, only ONCE! Interaction, communication understanding, and acceptance are key to a happy, healthy, long term relationship, right? (I direct this question to all married members on this site) happy.gif

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 04:48 AM

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NaruSaku and its merits vrs the merits of other Naruto/ relationships. it doesnt matter whether the pairing is crack or impossible or how much or little development.
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NaruSaku vrs NaruIno.

As long as we are going to break up NaruSaku, we should have crack pairings for *both* of them, and compare them.

For example:
NaruTenTen - She's handy with a banana fan heheelq7.png but needs a lot more stamina. He's got his own, nature, and tailed-beast chakras, to keep her going a long time.

ShinoSaku - She's got brains and beauty. He's got... bugs. err.gif She used to be self-conscious about her forehead. He's got a huge supply of hooded sweatshirts she could borrow.

And... fight! _catfight__by_darkmoon3636.gif

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 04:53 AM

^^ All righty, then, well, we'll have to remember this post in the future, once we're done discussing naruino, or are we done already, because I would love to keep going on this matter for a while. But, I would like the way, this conversation about narutenten or shinosaku would go in the future.

Also, uhhhhh, phantom, you kinda made a double post there, just to give you a heads up.

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 05:21 AM

How about ShikaSaku? They are both highly intelligent and in part 2 he's been shown to respect her as a peer.
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Posted 10 August 2011 - 05:52 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Aug 10 2011, 07:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How about ShikaSaku? They are both highly intelligent and in part 2 he's been shown to respect her as a peer.


Oh, I like that pairing. If it weren't for Naruto, I could see that working. They would surely have a lot of stuff to talk about, it would be like a marriage of great minds.
On the other hand, his laziness could put her off, I think she's more for the energetic types. wink.gif And he seems uninterested in a relationship with anyone.

NaruIno isn't my favorite pairing, I've read some fanfiction but it never 'clicked' for me. They are both outgoing but Ino is more dominant while Narutp is playful. Sakura is more serious than Naruto and she can handle him, cool him down but she has no desire dominating him which I think is like second nature to Ino.

As for the bench scene, I don't think Narutp was attracted to only Sakura's looks before that. Something else attracted him but even he couldn't put a finger on it. In the scene he says 'I finally understand why I like her so much'. That's when he started really falling in love with her, it was like a trigger, an 'aha' moment. I don't think he would react in that way if it were some other girl telling him about her desire for acknowledgment(Ino, Hinata...) because there was no spark to begin with.

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 08:01 AM

good start on the discussion.

Ok lets change it up a little.

Sakura/Shikamaru vrs NaruSaku

remember its the merits of one vrs the other

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 02:54 PM

^^ All righty, then well, shikasaku are both smart, yet Shikamaru is always a lazy-ass, unless the situation is urgent and Sakura is probably more energetic of the two, due to hanging with Naruto too much probably.

I, honestly, think that that relationship would be boring to Sakura and her head might explode because of his laziness. Also, there's the added matter that Shikamaru does not want a relationship due to the basis of not being with a woman who will nag too much, like his nagging mother, thought Sakura does not nag that much, unless its with Naruto of course. Though, and since this is a crack pairing, they might spouse some really smart kids that could use their wits to get out of anything.

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