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[HauntedCake]

I think a lot of people miss a huge writing element that kishi uses in his writing and here it's called chekhov's gun. It works like this, if in a chapter, the author that said there is a gun on the wall, that means whatever chapters later, that gun must come off the wall and be used at some point. Now what does this show for Naruhina and NaruSaku? Well when hinata running to the battlefield, it was stated that she would hold naruto's hand and be beside him forever. What do we get during the war? Naruto held Hinata's hand and hinata mentioned she would support and be beside naruto forever in 633. That means Hinata's role towards Naruto in this war is done and dealt with. However if kishi mentioned that naruto plans to confess after he brings sasuke back.. That means that naruto WILL CONFESS when he brings Sasuke back. When kushina mentioned "find someone like your mother" it means ultimately naruto WILL FIND someone like his mother. When Sakura stated "naruto, were going to be together this time and do this together" that ultimately means SAKURA WILL WORK WITH NARUTO AND BE BESIDE HIM. That is however yet to be tested and will come into full effect during Naruto's fight with Sasuke in my opinion. It's simple reading comprehension that people lack and try to look past to make everything about NaruSaku worse and degradable.

Yeah it's almost guaranteed the sasuke will be redeemed but the bring sasuke back is kinda wierd. There's no way that sasuke will be able to return so does that mean Naruto will never be able to confess???!?!??

[TouKen4Life3g]

I know it's fake. I'm just saying on how fans are being well you know.

Anyway, do I want tsundere Sakura? Hell yeah. Tsundere kicks ass in many ways. As you may noticed, I am a fan of it. One special perk I like from tsundere is that when they dressed something special, which at times are rare, they show a unique beauty that makes you feel like it's worth to wait. It's like fan service, so long you don't overdo it. Hidden beauty is what I like. I remember when I see my gf before she becomes one in a dress, I was drown in her looks. Yeah, it's a nice hidden perk.

[Canadian_DJ]

Sim minha sign é foda mesmo.
 
Yep, iremember that 1st april joke with an interview, i mean it's not really hard to rip an DVD and upload the interview but Kishi avoids give direct answers about pairings in general.
But i do feel is NS, Sasuke is about to betrayal and the best part is the possibility of this happening right close to Sakura, she doesnt trust Sasuke he betraying again is more than overkill to a pratically dead pairing.
 


That's the definition of fanservice, put something that makes the fandom jumps.

Like by definition hinata saying "i'll be at his side forever". or Shows Neji training her and she says "thank you Naruto".

But she didnt say that. According to the japsnese translation it said, "I wanted to be by naruto kuns side!"

The majority fanbase isn't praising Hinata. In Japan Hinata is just another side character for the most part.

In japan, they dont praise her at all, they dont even bring her uo, even if they do its only for oppai reason and thats barely even half thr time.

[Psychox]

But she didnt say that. According to the japsnese translation it said, "I wanted to be by naruto kuns side!"
In japan, they dont praise her at all, they dont even bring her uo, even if they do its only for oppai reason and thats barely even half thr time.

 

[Canadian_DJ]

Thing is we usually see the characters but forget about the story and it's rules. Saying Hinata serves as a telescope or may serve a higher purpose is only speculation.

Well, its a speculation but its true, like Seriously. What purpise does hinata serve now? Or can she? Hinata has no purpose. Shes done. Its true. Shes only serving as a telescope as stupid as it may sound but its true. Shes an insignificsnt side character. So lets stop bringing her up.

Ps. Good one psychox!

Edited by Canadian_DJ, 02 August 2013 - 08:33 PM.

[Canadian_DJ]

That's what I thought too. It reinforces that Hinata's only purpose there is for her byakugan to keep Sakura informed of the progress of the battle and the status of Naruto and Sasuke.
 
Kishi wants Sakura to keep herself updated to all that's going on without having her be involved for now, so he slightly retcons the byakugan in order to serve as a telescope for Sakura. Hinata is only there to serve as Sakura's status updater, it's a simple matter of convenience.

This.

[Darkness]

Question for all:

 

Would you prefer Sakura to be a different type of girl than a tsundere or best to leave it like that? Explain.

Why anyone who likes her would ever want that? She is a hell of fun the way she is! And more importantly, Naruto agrees.

That means Hinata's role towards Naruto in this war is done and dealt with. However if kishi mentioned that naruto plans to confess after he brings sasuke back.. That means that naruto WILL CONFESS when he brings Sasuke back. 

 

Wait a second. Kishimoto really mentioned this?

Or are you simply refering Naruto and Sai's talk? If so, you perfectly right. To better explain my point of view:

 

Hinata > Naruto > Sakura > Sasuke > ???

 

Hinata confessed to Naruto. Sakura confessed to Sasuke. Logically, the only one left is Naruto confessing to Sakura and I don't think Kishimoto will skip it. Also, as we say in Brazil, we always save the best for last. ;]

 

And I must point out, although she is aware he is in love with her, she doesn't know the extent of it. I can assure this last one is garanteed to take a huge impact on her.

 

Naruto and Sai's conversation also implies that Naruto has considered doing it, so let's just wait and see how it goes.

Edited by Darkness, 02 August 2013 - 08:50 PM.

[Canadian_DJ]

Does anybody have good proof that naruto love sakura?
 
there's this stubborn naruhina fan that says this.. "What gives you the right to say that? Naruto never said that he LOVES Sakura. Not even close. He only said that he likes her and he admitted that be has feelings for her but that is still light years away from love.
 
In a manga about not giving up the main protagonist will be with a girl who gave up on the man she loved just when he finally turned good. Yeah, right...
Naruto on the other hand CANNOT give up his love for Sakura because no Naruto's LOVE for Sakura was ever confirmed. And there was plenty of crushes that seem to no longer exist (Rock Lee's crush on Sakura) so Naruto giving up his CRUSH wouldn't be anything new or strange."
 
And I'm just like facepalm, isn't the "admit his feelings to Sai" clear enough..

Does anybody have good proof that naruto love sakura?
 
there's this stubborn naruhina fan that says this.. "What gives you the right to say that? Naruto never said that he LOVES Sakura. Not even close. He only said that he likes her and he admitted that be has feelings for her but that is still light years away from love.
 
In a manga about not giving up the main protagonist will be with a girl who gave up on the man she loved just when he finally turned good. Yeah, right...
Naruto on the other hand CANNOT give up his love for Sakura because no Naruto's LOVE for Sakura was ever confirmed. And there was plenty of crushes that seem to no longer exist (Rock Lee's crush on Sakura) so Naruto giving up his CRUSH wouldn't be anything new or strange."
 
And I'm just like facepalm, isn't the "admit his feelings to Sai" clear enough..

Im not even gonna bother with this but I wanna address something. When suki is translated in english they translate it to like, when in fact it should be translated to love. Since suki is the base of love and is romantic. Unlike dsisuki. Silly Hinata western fsns

[arian_rad]

Why anyone who likes her would ever want that? She is a hell of fun the way she is! And more importantly, Naruto agrees.
 
Wait a second. Kishimoto really mentioned this?
Or are you simply refering Naruto and Sai's talk? If so, you perfectly right. To better explain my point of view:
 
Hinata > Naruto > Sakura > Sasuke > ???
 
Hinata confessed to Naruto. Sakura confessed to Sasuke. Logically, the only one left is Naruto confessing to Sakura and I don't think Kishimoto will skip it. Also, as we say in Brazil, we always save the best for last. ;]
 
And I must point out, although she is aware he is in love with her, she doesn't know the extent of it. I can assure this last one is garanteed to take a huge impact on her.
 
Naruto and Sai's conversation also implies that Naruto has considered doing it, so let's just wait and see how it goes.

Yep that's what I was implying. When naruto said "I can't confess because I can't keep my promise to her" simply means that he will do so when he simply keeps that promise. Sakura has already broken that cycle by being one to confess to Naruto. Even though many believe that the confession was false doesn't change the fact that it happend. Naruto confessing to Sakura will simply fill all the one sided relationship wholes in the manga but the only one to actually have another confession from the other side has been Sakura>naruto. It's interesting that way isn't it? :) however some believe Sasuke will never be with team 7 the way the promise was intended and therefore Naruto will never confess. However, one must remember that Naruto has literally put his life on the line to bring Sasuke back. At one point, even though it is only a fight between Naruto and Sasuke, there was a certain kunoichi not happy at all about Naruto giving up his life and that was Sakura. If Sakura truly confesses to Naruto her feelings (which is what many Japanese do expect) then there will be no reason for Naruto to not confess because he now knows that Sakura is truly in love with him instead of him wanting to bring Sasuke back and letting her choose. She needs to let Naruto know that the choice she will make will be him. Who knows how kishi will do this though, there are so many ways to go at it and make it endgame. I just can't wait to see what he does eventually.

[Kster95]

Yep that's what I was implying. When naruto said "I can't confess because I can't keep my promise to her" simply means that he will do so when he simply keeps that promise. Sakura has already broken that cycle by being one to confess to Naruto. Even though many believe that the confession was false doesn't change the fact that it happend. Naruto confessing to Sakura will simply fill all the one sided relationship wholes in the manga but the only one to actually have another confession from the other side has been Sakura>naruto. It's interesting that way isn't it? :) however some believe Sasuke will never be with team 7 the way the promise was intended and therefore Naruto will never confess. However, one must remember that Naruto has literally put his life on the line to bring Sasuke back. At one point, even though it is only a fight between Naruto and Sasuke, there was a certain kunoichi not happy at all about Naruto giving up his life and that was Sakura. If Sakura truly confesses to Naruto her feelings (which is what many Japanese do expect) then there will be no reason for Naruto to not confess because he now knows that Sakura is truly in love with him instead of him wanting to bring Sasuke back and letting her choose. She needs to let Naruto know that the choice she will make will be him. Who knows how kishi will do this though, there are so many ways to go at it and make it endgame. I just can't wait to see what he does eventually.

 

That confession was real when Sakura says she truly cares for him and doesn't want to see him die, however it was fake when she said she loved him in a romantic way, she did say  this because she cares for him and doesn't want him to die. But I truly believe she will love him in a romantic way eventually as its evident but that confession was fake when it came to romantic feelings. And I do think Naruto was a little mad at her for lying about it

Edited by Kster95, 02 August 2013 - 09:30 PM.

[megi]

 

That confession was real when Sakura says she truly cares for him and doesn't want to see him die, however it was fake when she said she loved him in a romantic way, she did say  this because she cares for him and doesn't want him to die. But I truly believe she will love him in a romantic way eventually as its evident but that confession was fake when it came to romantic feelings. And I do think Naruto was a little mad at her for lying about it

 

She lied about not being over Sasuke or willing to give up on Sasuke. In this case she is lying to herself. Naruto was thinking in those "flashbacks" about all those times she cared about Sasuke. 

[bthug]

I know it's fake. I'm just saying on how fans are being well you know.

Anyway, do I want tsundere Sakura? Hell yeah. Tsundere kicks ass in many ways. As you may noticed, I am a fan of it. One special perk I like from tsundere is that when they dressed something special, which at times are rare, they show a unique beauty that makes you feel like it's worth to wait. It's like fan service, so long you don't overdo it. Hidden beauty is what I like. I remember when I see my gf before she becomes one in a dress, I was drown in her looks. Yeah, it's a nice hidden perk.

I would like a real tsundere 

[deviouslyChaotic]

 

That confession was real when Sakura says she truly cares for him and doesn't want to see him die, however it was fake when she said she loved him in a romantic way, she did say  this because she cares for him and doesn't want him to die. But I truly believe she will love him in a romantic way eventually as its evident but that confession was fake when it came to romantic feelings. And I do think Naruto was a little mad at her for lying about it

I do not think she was lying about her romantic feelings. If she was lying, then why did she get so angry when Naruto said, "What was the point of coming all the way out here just to tell me that?" It's because that statement hurt her. Naruto basically told her that her confession was pointless and a waste of time. That's when she really lashed out at him. Confessing is not easy and for him to just say something like that to her is really hurtful. If someone was lying, I do not think it would hurt them as much as it so obviously hurt Sakura.

Plus, she was blushing during the confession and I don't really think you can fake a blush. Also, Kishi said he wanted to display an honest girl concerning Sakura's confession.

I agree with Megi.

[Kster95]

I do not think she was lying about her romantic feelings. If she was lying, then why did she get so angry when Naruto said, "What was the point of coming all the way out here just to tell me that?" It's because that statement hurt her. Naruto basically told her that her confession was pointless and a waste of time. That's when she really lashed out at him. Confessing is not easy and for him to just say something like that to her is really hurtful. If someone was lying, I do not think it would hurt them as much as it so obviously hurt Sakura.

Plus, she was blushing during the confession and I don't really think you can fake a blush. Also, Kishi said he wanted to display an honest girl concerning Sakura's confession.

I agree with Megi.

 

You can totally fake a blush, the whole reason for the confession was not because she loved Naruto romantically it was to relieve him of his burden. If your going to confess about loving someone and to have it be truthful, it that cant be a side reason, it has to be the main reason and in that confession it wasn't. 

[Sojobo]

Yep that's what I was implying. When naruto said "I can't confess because I can't keep my promise to her" simply means that he will do so when he simply keeps that promise. Sakura has already broken that cycle by being one to confess to Naruto.

I don't see it like this.

Naruto's panel looks a lot like Sakura's here :

With the right translation, Sakura thinks that only an idiot like him would fall in love with her.

She finds herself terrible because of what she did too him (without realizing of course, it was not her intention at all to cause him pain), that's why I made the link with Naruto, because he's also finding himself terrible for not keeping his promise.

 

But they are both wrong. Like Yamato said before, it is not what you can do or what you do that's important, it's what you really feel about the one you love.

I don't know about Naruto (maybe he learned something after talking with his mother about love and happiness), but Sakura has certainly not learned Yamato's lesson yet.

 

That's why I don't think that Naruto's confession will have something to do with his promise for Sakura in the futur.

And by the way, I don't see him confess after saving Sasuke...

Edited by Sojobo, 02 August 2013 - 10:34 PM.

[arian_rad]

I don't see it like this.
Naruto's panel looks a lot like Sakura's here :

With the right translation, Sakura thinks that only an idiot like him would fall in love with her.
She finds herself terrible because of what she did too him (without realizing of course, it was not her intention at all to cause him pain), that's why I made the link with Naruto, because he's also finding himself terrible for not keeping his promise.
 
But they are both wrong. Like Yamato said before, it is not what you can do or what you do that's important, it's what you really feel about the one you love.
I don't know about Naruto (maybe he learned something after talking with his mother about love and happiness), but Sakura has certainly not learned Yamato's lesson yet.
 
That's why I don't think that Naruto's confession will have something to do with his promise for Sakura in the futur.
And by the way, I don't see him confess after saving Sasuke...

I agree with you with the toll the story has taken. What I was implying is that Naruto will confess and kishi has put that in there for a reason. No matter what he will do it at some point and won't switch over to Hinata. What you said is true and I'm hoping for Naruto to make things clear BEFORE his fight with Sasuke so they can settle the whole "we will both die" part.

[T XD]

I somewhat think that Naruto will not confess when his promise is fulfilled. Things have changed especially after Sai explained what Sakura meant in her confession. Sasuke won't return to the village from what the story is telling, although there's a small possibility but I don't think it will happen, so Naruto won't keep his mouth shot forever.

 

It's settled for the next confession, and it's either going to be him confessing or her or both as in one of them confessing first then the other confesses also.

Edited by T XD, 02 August 2013 - 11:20 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I do believe Naruto and Sakura are going to have a big talk before the finale. Sakura wants to know what he meant with his words to Sasuke and of course she won't get it from Sasuke, let alone Sasuke won't talk to her if he's not going to be in the same place. Advantage goes NS.

[T XD]

I do believe Naruto and Sakura are going to have a big talk before the finale. Sakura wants to know what he meant with his words to Sasuke and of course she won't get it from Sasuke, let alone Sasuke won't talk to her if he's not going to be in the same place. Advantage goes NS.

Yup, there will be something for NS definitely before the final fight. NS will be very near to canon when that happens.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yup, there will be something for NS definitely before the final fight. NS will be very near to canon when that happens.

Pretty much. Lastly, Naruto is the one to declare both of them to die. She already know Sasuke was going to kill Naruto, but the fact Naruto didn't say rescue him or even kill him, he said both of them. Naruto is keeping it to himself though Sakura knows. Now she wants to know what's behind that meaning. Should she truly worry about it? She trusts Naruto but those words are huge that even she needs to question. It's funny because a filler episode have her ask Naruto if he got it under control as Naruto ask her if she trusts me in this. She said yeah but left her stopped by Gai and Kakashi race. Even the latest game gave her a unique reaction shot to his words as well as her wanting to ask but stopped. So that talk will be huge, people.