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#49381 TheFirstEvil100

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 12:09 AM

 
But that's the thing about it; some of it is found like the fact of Kakashi being a hypocrite when it came to revenge with Sasuke over Shikamaru, but some of it is more wrong. Sasuke still CHOSE his path for himself because of his ego, his jealousy towards Itachi and Naruto, as well as his hate, so he does deserve a good bit of hate he gets when he brought it on himself.
 
I'm sorry you gotta deal with this bull from people like that. And that reviewer also forgets; Naruto didn't KILL Nagato, even if he wanted to, since he saw that killing him would only cause more hate and he didn't want to pile it on after learning of Nagato's past as well as thinking on his words and his dad's words to him.


Thanks I just keep getting them and they are all guest reviewers as well so I can't answer them back, unless I up date the chapter. But when I do I think I will add why Sasuke is not liked and he has done wrong, plus how Kishi played favourites with Sasuke as well. Remember the whole cause the love to much BS, yet it's all of my NaruSaku stories they are going after.

Oh well I don't care I have planned that Sasuke would die in Ki Ninja right from when I started it just like in another one which Pan will kill Sasuke with a Kamehameha to the face.

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 12:16 AM

Not to mention many are Sasuke fanboys I keep on getting them on my stories like this one who well I think we can all see they think Sasuke is one of the best characters. This is what they had to say.

 

"All these Sasuke haters. just keep your hate to yourselves. I hate it when everyone is a Naruto/Konoha wanker. Konoha supports slavery and massacres; Sasuke had every right to leave the village, and Naruto kept chasing on him it's his fault if Sasuke hurts him. Forcing something on someone is not acceptable, Naruto and Sakura did a 'good' job with that. Sasuke is traumatised, he experienced love in the form of his family and especially his beloved brother who he trusted the most and was betrayed by him. Naruto was always alone; his childhood is not nearly as sad as Sasuke's. And no, he's not an 'emo' kid for acting as he does. If you claim this, then you didn't get his character. And oh, if you think Sasuke's goal to have his revenge was foolish like Kakashi did, then why was Naruto and Shikamaru right when they got their revenge for their senseis? Kakashi is a real hypocrite when he tells Sasuke to give up but helps Shikamaru to get his revenge on Hidan."

 

I just seem to keep getting guest reviews that are bugging me that Sasuke gets needless hate and that he has done nothing wrong

I agree with the part where naruto and sakura blind obsession on him. But bolded , Kakashi is s**t teacher , there's no mistake about it. But this person said it's okay for naruto and shikamaru to get their revenge but not Sasuke .... Well isn't it obvious ? the one who murder their master/sensei is a f-ing world terrorist mass murderer in bingo book!!! So naturally .... Pein is the leader of terrorist group and Hidan (follower and spreader of fake jashin religion) and Kakuzu (kill thousands of human just to take their heart to keep himself immortal) a mass murderer , these people are extremely dangerous and need to be put down. Unlike sasuke ..... he wants to get his revenge by destroying konoha and burn everyone in it with his amaterasu down to every last man and child ..... what an idiot.


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Posted 07 July 2018 - 03:26 AM

Meanwhile, we poke holes in the NH pairing and why it is horrible waste of development and space all the while SS is sitting here with even less to it's name. Any and all "romantic" moments are purely fan-fantasies and not something put in the manga or the story itself. You look at the SS fanart and it is all this loving, cuddling, superficial cliche romance traits you see in other manga or anime, but watch the real thing and there is NOTHING even close to this.

This is worse reality. NH has forced moments and showhorned development in there, but it is development. SS has NOTHING. Absolutly NOTHING beyond fanart depicting them as being loving to each other. I have seen crack pairings with more development and scenes to there names. I am not going to show you what I mean, but I think most of of you can attest to this.

SasuSaku fanart decription:
"Sasuke is embracing Sakura saying "I love you most dearly" with Sakura crying her eyes out and hugging him back. Another scene is depicting of them sharing the most passionate kiss ever to be seen in cinema"

SasuSaku in real life manga:
"Sasuke walks up to Sakura and says "What are you doing here?" Sakura faints and Sasuke disappears again."

So, like....how? How delusional can you truly be?

I still will never understand when pro-enders say that we, the NS fanbase, should accept the canon for what it is, but then they turn around and make this dribble that is not even existent in the canon as well. They themselves cannot even accept the canon as it is. They can't even accept that Salad is not Sakura's daughter for crying out loud.

And, of course, a majority of NH fanart is just Hinatatas riding Boruto's dad or incest.
 

 

Not to mention many are Sasuke fanboys I keep on getting them on my stories like this one who well I think we can all see they think Sasuke is one of the best characters. This is what they had to say.

 

"All these Sasuke haters. just keep your hate to yourselves. I hate it when everyone is a Naruto/Konoha wanker. Konoha supports slavery and massacres; Sasuke had every right to leave the village, and Naruto kept chasing on him it's his fault if Sasuke hurts him. Forcing something on someone is not acceptable, Naruto and Sakura did a 'good' job with that. Sasuke is traumatised, he experienced love in the form of his family and especially his beloved brother who he trusted the most and was betrayed by him. Naruto was always alone; his childhood is not nearly as sad as Sasuke's. And no, he's not an 'emo' kid for acting as he does. If you claim this, then you didn't get his character. And oh, if you think Sasuke's goal to have his revenge was foolish like Kakashi did, then why was Naruto and Shikamaru right when they got their revenge for their senseis? Kakashi is a real hypocrite when he tells Sasuke to give up but helps Shikamaru to get his revenge on Hidan."

 

I just seem to keep getting guest reviews that are bugging me that Sasuke gets needless hate and that he has done nothing wrong

Heh, and those idiots continue to show that they didn't pay any attention to the story aside from what they want to believe.


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Posted 07 July 2018 - 09:20 PM

And, of course, a majority of NH fanart is just Hinatatas riding Boruto's dad or incest.
 

 

Heh, and those idiots continue to show that they didn't pay any attention to the story aside from what they want to believe.

agreed, gotta say, whoever that guest reviewer is, he or she is an idiot, saying its okay for sasuke to want revenge when it means killing everyone in konoha for revenge, even the women and children? did they even read the manga or watch the anime? oh, no, that's right, most of these stupid pro enders skipped the entire series to the ending because they only cared about their pairings. so of course he/she obviously skipped the land of iron and war arcs where sasuke decided he wanted revenge on everyone in konoha killing everyone in the village.  and then the stupid ending catered to these people.  :wallbash:


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Posted 07 July 2018 - 09:38 PM

 

This bullfrog dad is far better father than Naruto and Sasuke. When animal is better than human .... no hope for humanity. Shame on you naruto ... sasuke .. and kishimoto.


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Posted 08 July 2018 - 03:23 AM

 

This bullfrog dad is far better father than Naruto and Sasuke. When animal is better than human .... no hope for humanity. Shame on you naruto ... sasuke .. and kishimoto.

 

It's poor excuses for trying to give us drama. XP Screw that crap!



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Posted 08 July 2018 - 09:01 PM

agreed, gotta say, whoever that guest reviewer is, he or she is an idiot, saying its okay for sasuke to want revenge when it means killing everyone in konoha for revenge, even the women and children? did they even read the manga or watch the anime? oh, no, that's right, most of these stupid pro enders skipped the entire series to the ending because they only cared about their pairings. so of course he/she obviously skipped the land of iron and war arcs where sasuke decided he wanted revenge on everyone in konoha killing everyone in the village.  and then the stupid ending catered to these people.  :wallbash:

I know you know I wish at times someone like Frieza or Cell or Zod or some another villain would show up to the Naruto world and make them all suffer showing them all what a real evil person is like no kittening sob story.



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Posted 09 July 2018 - 01:08 AM

Even Kenshin in the manga for Rurouni Kenshin isn't a crappy dad when it comes to Kenji, even if Kenji is more attuned with Kaoru than he is his dad. X-D Plus Ichigo and Orihime are way better parents, as are Rukia and Renji in Bleach's ending!


Heck Scott lang from the mcu is a better father and he's a criminal or ex one the new movie of antman shows his relationship with his daughter more than the first one and it's really good.

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 01:30 AM

Heck Scott lang from the mcu is a better father and he's a criminal or ex one the new movie of antman shows his relationship with his daughter more than the first one and it's really good.

 

Even in the comics, Scott is a great dad to Cassie.



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Posted 09 July 2018 - 01:33 AM

I know you know I wish at times someone like Frieza or Cell or Zod or some another villain would show up to the Naruto world and make them all suffer showing them all what a real evil person is like no kittening sob story.


True man, also include Freddy, Michael, Thanos infinity war Thanos, Darkseid all evil villains that would curve stomp naruto hard. Yes Thanos in infinity war wasn't a total monster but in terms of power he's leagues above naruto. God I want sakura to go on a John wick killing spree.

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 01:35 AM

Even in the comics, Scott is a great dad to Cassie.


Really I haven't read them but I'm focusing on the movies more since Cassie is still a young kid so it works more, heck hank is a better father to hope in both movies than naruto and sasuke.

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 02:00 AM

True man, also include Freddy, Michael, Thanos infinity war Thanos, Darkseid all evil villains that would curve stomp naruto hard. Yes Thanos in infinity war wasn't a total monster but in terms of power he's leagues above naruto. God I want sakura to go on a John wick killing spree.

well only thing about thanos is technically the infinity stones are powerless outside of the marvel universe, since in the dc marvel crossover comics the infinity stones were powerless while in the dc universe. so thanos wouldn't be able to use the infinity gauntlet. I don't think alot of people realize this, given all the videos where thanos uses the infinity gauntlet to kill dbsuper characters.


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Posted 09 July 2018 - 01:30 PM

well only thing about thanos is technically the infinity stones are powerless outside of the marvel universe, since in the dc marvel crossover comics the infinity stones were powerless while in the dc universe. so thanos wouldn't be able to use the infinity gauntlet. I don't think alot of people realize this, given all the videos where thanos uses the infinity gauntlet to kill dbsuper characters.


Even without the gauntlet Thanos still owns everyone. But let's say the gauntlet works in the naruto world.

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 04:18 PM

Even without the gauntlet Thanos still owns everyone. But let's say the gauntlet works in the naruto world.

Eh, There are a few who could take Thanos. Hell, he's based on Darkseid.



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Posted 09 July 2018 - 04:48 PM

Eh, There are a few who could take Thanos. Hell, he's based on Darkseid.


Thanos is a joke lol. Hes nothing without prep.

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 05:19 PM

Even without the gauntlet Thanos still owns everyone. But let's say the gauntlet works in the naruto world.

yeah I know he owns everyone in naruto, I'm just not too sure about lets say ultra instinct goku xD unless its that future thanos I guess that beats celestials.

 

same with darkseid beating beerus, I don't think that makes sense since beerus is twice as strong as current super saiyan blue goku, possibly stronger, and super saiyan god goku was strong enough to create shockwaves that almost destroyed the universe when colliding with beerus' fists, plus beerus nullifying their combined energy attacks before it could wipe out the universe, plus there's the fact super saiyan blue vegeta destroyed the time chamber through training, and beerus is stronger? then there's his power of  destruction which is superior to darkseid's because he can do it from a distance and it affects living and dead and erases you from existence from all timelines. 

 

that's why I never get all these versus debates especially when it comes to marvel or dc comic characters, seems the fans think no non comic character can beat them ignoring the others' feats at times. at least that tends to happen with for example, sonic vs flash. since both characters have speed feats of infinite power and whatnot, and somehow flash can beat a super durable hedgehog that cuts through robots like butter with sonic spins and can breathe in space? wouldn't flash just have a gaping hole in his chest from a sonic spin if this was realistic? I mean last I checked flash isn't super durable, he's human, he just has super speed and fast healing right? and sonic doesn't only use high speed punches and kicks like flash, he does fight in other ways. then there's super forms of course, and the chaos emeralds and all the chaos control abilities. archie sonic comics sonic being WAY too powerful going from what I learned from tidbits of animation rewind. ultra sonic is too crazy.


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Posted 09 July 2018 - 05:36 PM

 

This bullfrog dad is far better father than Naruto and Sasuke. When animal is better than human .... no hope for humanity. Shame on you naruto ... sasuke .. and kishimoto.

If you replaced the bullfrog with Boruto's dad.

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 08:21 PM

What makes NARDO such a bad father is that he's a hypocrite over something that he SHOULDN'T show hypocrisy for. His telling Brato that loneliness must be endured when he was SOOOOO empathetic to how his "brother from another mother lover" Sasuke was always alone too and did not tell him to "suck it up", not to mention he himself (taking up Naruto 's role from the Hinata fanfic movie and then on) WAS AN ORPHAN from birth. Whereas Sasuke is neither giving second thoughts to his family to even visit them or giving them financial aid to keep a roof over their heads, so that is self explanatory.


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Posted 10 July 2018 - 12:59 AM

What makes NARDO such a bad father is that he's a hypocrite over something that he SHOULDN'T show hypocrisy for. His telling Brato that loneliness must be endured when he was SOOOOO Empathetic to how his "brother from another mother lover" Sasuke was always alone too and did not tell him to "suck it up", not to mention he himself (taking up Naruto 's role from the Hinata fanfic movie and then on) WAS AN ORPHAN from birth. Whereas Sasuke is neither giving second thoughts to his family to even visit them or giving them financial aid to keep a roof over their heads.

 

Exactly, and the fact Boruto's dad being a hypocrite also makes us forget that Naruto used to have empathy and understood so much until he was made not to just to fit a stupid narrative. XP



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Posted 10 July 2018 - 12:56 PM

yeah I know he owns everyone in naruto, I'm just not too sure about lets say ultra instinct goku xD unless its that future thanos I guess that beats celestials.
 
same with darkseid beating beerus, I don't think that makes sense since beerus is twice as strong as current super saiyan blue goku, possibly stronger, and super saiyan god goku was strong enough to create shockwaves that almost destroyed the universe when colliding with beerus' fists, plus beerus nullifying their combined energy attacks before it could wipe out the universe, plus there's the fact super saiyan blue vegeta destroyed the time chamber through training, and beerus is stronger? then there's his power of  destruction which is superior to darkseid's because he can do it from a distance and it affects living and dead and erases you from existence from all timelines. 
 
that's why I never get all these versus debates especially when it comes to marvel or dc comic characters, seems the fans think no non comic character can beat them ignoring the others' feats at times. at least that tends to happen with for example, sonic vs flash. since both characters have speed feats of infinite power and whatnot, and somehow flash can beat a super durable hedgehog that cuts through robots like butter with sonic spins and can breathe in space? wouldn't flash just have a gaping hole in his chest from a sonic spin if this was realistic? I mean last I checked flash isn't super durable, he's human, he just has super speed and fast healing right? and sonic doesn't only use high speed punches and kicks like flash, he does fight in other ways. then there's super forms of course, and the chaos emeralds and all the chaos control abilities. archie sonic comics sonic being WAY too powerful going from what I learned from tidbits of animation rewind. ultra sonic is too crazy.

 
Sonic would destroy both The Flash and Zoom at the same time. As a matter of fact he would kill the entire Flash Family plus Zoom with ease. But no, no, no. Darkseid would literally solo the DBZverse with both hands tied behind his back and his feet shackled and one eye available. Beerus would actually be on the front lines to be slaughtered.

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