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[Gravenimage]

Naruto doesn't love Sakura?  Really I must be reading the wrong manga written by Kishimoto then.

[TouKen4Life3g]

You know, more and more I really appreciate chapter 631 because the fact Minato actually interacted Sakura, who wondered if she's his son's girlfriend. Now that he knows, he can go home happy, well after the war is won of course. Judging from Kakashi's death, I say Naruto universe have afterlife actually talking like a normal life. That said I can see Minato talking to Kushina about many things, including girlfriend talk.

[Inferno180]

Im just wondering how much longer till people can no longer say "Naruto used to love Sakura" or "He gave up on her"

 

I mean come on, for all the arguments of Naruto being over Sakura, I find it just really funny in these ways:

1. Event though fillers don't count you still see them make a filler about Naruto saying he still loves her yet they don't make any fillers showing growth or high notification for NaruHina.

2. Kishi made a movie, though non-canon, its the only canon derived one and for a movie showing that Naruto and Sakura work well together, its funny how some treat it as if it cannot work in the manga when kishi himself made this movie showing they have a good foundation in their friendship. I mean they both wanted the other to be happy, even Sakura was prepped to stay in the alt world so Naruto could have his parents, illusion or not, they still had ideals of the others happiness.

3. For NH to grow or be canon, 631 just became a major issue along with 635. I mean Minato revealing to the audience that Sakura is like Kushina, (and so far Sakura is the only girl compared canonically to kushina in anyway shape or form, this alone is merit of a big sign of NS possibility), Naruto claiming Sakura as his girlfriend, I mean joke or not, I really woundn't expect this to be done because he wanted to mess with her, even if he was not in love with her anymore, why would the Kushina stuff be put in? That breaks the he does not love he anymore thing right there, so what is Minato going to relabel the parallel onto Hinata? Naruto not loving Sakura yet liking the idea of her as his girlfriend seems highly dumb I mean why would he say that to look good in front of his father? Geez, I don't blame how some people want more proof of Naruto still loving Sakura but him thinking of her like that is still a good sign, not to mention so much in the manga he has displayed his love for her.

4. 635 is another issue, NH can happen without SS, but Sakura would need to remain independent but if Sakura's feelings are shifting, this is another case for NH, how? If Sakura turns away from Naruto and Naruto still remains fixated on Sakura, well thats 2 looking in the same direction, each other. Sakura may break the triangle soon.

 

but just looking at how even in fillers, if there is nothing of Naruto just thinking more about Hinata, if he really was over Sakura, then why even display these things? Why bother with the Kushina parallel? Kishi is not messing with us, he is not a romance author who messes with people and constantly shifting feelings, he is writing more of an action drama friendship story, not love. Love exists in it but not to the extent people make out. Generally the family love is seen as greater in the series than the friendship love fans constantly look around at. But seriously, the land of iron events for the longest time gave no notification of Naruto being over Sakura, then Kushina (who was just like her was revealed and said to find a girl like her), then we got a filler saying he still loved Sakura, then we got road to ninja, then we got 631 which both practically confirms he still loves her (if he really considers her his girlfriend as in lover) and linking Minato linking Sakura to Kushina. I'd say there is a decent amount of reason to believe he still loves her. Even having a filler in this argument, well fillers cannot conflict with the manga as far as I know, but for all cases, why bother with it if NS is dead as others claimed? There is plenty of reason to see that Naruto still loves Sakura, if we need a more direct answer, I'm sure it would come soon. I don't even to mention the Obito Rin stuff from recently and it may provide another link. Heck Naruto could get injured in this fight and it could trigger something for her to help him. I mean what if Naruto gets battered badly and Sakura tries to come in, only at the last moment the 5 kage enter, provide some time for Naruto and Sasuke to rejuvenate, but the key part of this hypothetical scene would have been Sakura concerned for Naruto more over Sasuke? What if this surprised Naruto kinda like 450? More NS stuff will come but there is just a ton left they can grow on its not even funny. At this rate, a better argument for Nh would be if naruto was over Sakura, Sakura would have to remain independent for the sole purpose of her development but even then NH has many issues to contend with just from this, either way NH has issues pertaining towards Sakura in either SS or her remaining independent and if Naruto really did give up on her, but even then I highly doubt Naruto gave up on Sakura, Naruto never gives up, its just not his ninja way, and if he gave up, wouldn't Hinata give up too? Wouldn't this be the out of pity pairing in all logic? NS has a lot left to go its not even funny all that past and future interaction will go somewhere, we can only wait to see.

[T XD]

You know, more and more I really appreciate chapter 631 because the fact Minato actually interacted Sakura, who wondered if she's his son's girlfriend. Now that he knows, he can go home happy, well after the war is won of course. Judging from Kakashi's death, I say Naruto universe have afterlife actually talking like a normal life. That said I can see Minato talking to Kushina about many things, including girlfriend talk.

Bolded, I would love to see that. Hopefully, Kishi will make another appearance of Kushina and include something related to Sakura in it.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Great post, Inferno.

 

Bolded, I would love to see that. Hopefully, Kishi will make another appearance of Kushina and include something related to Sakura in it.

I would like an interaction between Minato and Kushina before closing because that will be the final time to see them speak in the manga. I can imagine Kushina saying, "Welcome back" once he returns to afterlife. You know something, it's freaking great that all the stuff Naruto is said to accomplish by Kushina is complete or most of them are. That's a happy ending for Minato and Kushina and Minato will report everything to Kushina. It just occur to me now.

[Psychox]

Im just wondering how much longer till people can no longer say "Naruto used to love Sakura" or "He gave up on her"

 

I mean come on, for all the arguments of Naruto being over Sakura, I find it just really funny in these ways:

1. Event though fillers don't count you still see them make a filler about Naruto saying he still loves her yet they don't make any fillers showing growth or high notification for NaruHina.

2. Kishi made a movie, though non-canon, its the only canon derived one and for a movie showing that Naruto and Sakura work well together, its funny how some treat it as if it cannot work in the manga when kishi himself made this movie showing they have a good foundation in their friendship. I mean they both wanted the other to be happy, even Sakura was prepped to stay in the alt world so Naruto could have his parents, illusion or not, they still had ideals of the others happiness.

3. For NH to grow or be canon, 631 just became a major issue along with 635. I mean Minato revealing to the audience that Sakura is like Kushina, (and so far Sakura is the only girl compared canonically to kushina in anyway shape or form, this alone is merit of a big sign of NS possibility), Naruto claiming Sakura as his girlfriend, I mean joke or not, I really woundn't expect this to be done because he wanted to mess with her, even if he was not in love with her anymore, why would the Kushina stuff be put in? That breaks the he does not love he anymore thing right there, so what is Minato going to relabel the parallel onto Hinata? Naruto not loving Sakura yet liking the idea of her as his girlfriend seems highly dumb I mean why would he say that to look good in front of his father? Geez, I don't blame how some people want more proof of Naruto still loving Sakura but him thinking of her like that is still a good sign, not to mention so much in the manga he has displayed his love for her.

4. 635 is another issue, NH can happen without SS, but Sakura would need to remain independent but if Sakura's feelings are shifting, this is another case for NH, how? If Sakura turns away from Naruto and Naruto still remains fixated on Sakura, well thats 2 looking in the same direction, each other. Sakura may break the triangle soon.

 

but just looking at how even in fillers, if there is nothing of Naruto just thinking more about Hinata, if he really was over Sakura, then why even display these things? Why bother with the Kushina parallel? Kishi is not messing with us, he is not a romance author who messes with people and constantly shifting feelings, he is writing more of an action drama friendship story, not love. Love exists in it but not to the extent people make out. Generally the family love is seen as greater in the series than the friendship love fans constantly look around at. But seriously, the land of iron events for the longest time gave no notification of Naruto being over Sakura, then Kushina (who was just like her was revealed and said to find a girl like her), then we got a filler saying he still loved Sakura, then we got road to ninja, then we got 631 which both practically confirms he still loves her (if he really considers her his girlfriend as in lover) and linking Minato linking Sakura to Kushina. I'd say there is a decent amount of reason to believe he still loves her. Even having a filler in this argument, well fillers cannot conflict with the manga as far as I know, but for all cases, why bother with it if NS is dead as others claimed? There is plenty of reason to see that Naruto still loves Sakura, if we need a more direct answer, I'm sure it would come soon. I don't even to mention the Obito Rin stuff from recently and it may provide another link. Heck Naruto could get injured in this fight and it could trigger something for her to help him. I mean what if Naruto gets battered badly and Sakura tries to come in, only at the last moment the 5 kage enter, provide some time for Naruto and Sasuke to rejuvenate, but the key part of this hypothetical scene would have been Sakura concerned for Naruto more over Sasuke? What if this surprised Naruto kinda like 450? More NS stuff will come but there is just a ton left they can grow on its not even funny. At this rate, a better argument for Nh would be if naruto was over Sakura, Sakura would have to remain independent for the sole purpose of her development but even then NH has many issues to contend with just from this, either way NH has issues pertaining towards Sakura in either SS or her remaining independent and if Naruto really did give up on her, but even then I highly doubt Naruto gave up on Sakura, Naruto never gives up, its just not his ninja way, and if he gave up, wouldn't Hinata give up too? Wouldn't this be the out of pity pairing in all logic? NS has a lot left to go its not even funny all that past and future interaction will go somewhere, we can only wait to see.

 

 

Nicely said , but they still imply that we are ignoring Sakura's wishes and her undying love for Sasuke and above all WE are FORCING her ... Like she has no development no mistrust no nothing  ...

 

Just had that sort of a ''conversation'' with a nh fan and i add ''Stop making stuff up to make your ship real'' .. i am speechless

Their argument for Sakura not being a tsundere that she never hit the boy she loves , but beat the hell out of Naruto .. So what she hates him?   Do people forgot inner-Sakura how she hid it to impress Sasuke , because she thought he was perfect, but it revealed itself when Naruto was around? This tells me that she can be herself around him , but some are ignoring that..

Some people ignore crucial fact which are right under their nose ....

 

Oh well

[T XD]

Great post, Inferno.

 

I would like an interaction between Minato and Kushina before closing because that will be the final time to see them speak in the manga. I can imagine Kushina saying, "Welcome back" once he returns to afterlife. You know something, it's freaking great that all the stuff Naruto is said to accomplish by Kushina is complete or most of them are. That's a happy ending for Minato and Kushina and Minato will report everything to Kushina. It just occur to me now.

You know what, it's possible to see three or four panels of Minato reporting to Kushina some things especially about Sakura since Kushina told Naruto to find someone like her.

 

Yup, it's possible. Let's see if Kishi will choose this option.

Edited by T XD, 02 August 2013 - 06:09 PM.

[Inferno180]

I still find it ridiculous how much stuff there is that is not directly involved with NaruSaku yet it can still be connected in a canonical sense. Just listen to this minor rabble and how much it still makes sense despite little of it actually mattering for NaruSaku in the long run, yet the funny stuff about this all is, its true again this does not help NaruSaku but its astounding how much relates:

 

1. As Hinata fans compared Hinata to Minato, there is ironically a couple of things Sakura has in common with Minato, both were normal people, not from any clan as far as we know, considered very smart, prodigies in their respective talents, and studied under a sannin.

 

2. Both Naruto and Sakura have parents whos names begin with an M or a K. Both have a parent with blond or red family hair (pink is in the red family). Even more ironic, their respective parents from both these qualities are the opposite gender towards the others family, Minato and Meubeki have blond hair and names beginning with M but they are the opposite gender, same with Kushina and Kizashi but with red/pink hair and names starting with K.

 

3. Among one of the craziest relationships on the battlefield right now is that between Naruto, Sakura, Minato, Tsunade, and Hashirama. Hashirama was a hokage and related to tsunade. Minato and Tsunade relate with Hashirama by being hokage. Naruto and Sakura aside from being on the same team both inherited techniques from the hokage. Sakura learned from Tsunade who could have learned from Mito who was Hashirama's wife. In a funny way while Naruto carries the will of fire Hashirama began, Sakura carries Tsunade's talents which could be an extension from what Mito or he himself did.

 

Theres possibly a lot more of these minor relations but its kinda funny how these exist.

[Canadian_DJ]

The use of -kun in these chapters have a very low relevancy. You can't make any argument out of it.

Welcome to the western anime fanbase, where the ignorant are loud and proud and panic occurs when the simplest of things happen. And not to mention mulitiple misinterpreted scense. Oh and how can I forget the sudden burst of sasuhina after the recent chapter

Edited by Canadian_DJ, 02 August 2013 - 06:54 PM.

[Canadian_DJ]

^This you don't hear from the Japanese fandom acting so desperate. Because they ALREADY KNOW its going to be NS in the end and they are more rational, which they can analyze a middle school-er manga with common sense (especially when in a shounen its always main male+tsundere). Even Studio Pierot big time Hinata fan boys knows its going to be NS (along with knowing Sakura doesn;t love Sasuke anymore).

Yeah, the japanese know the direction of the manga.

Not only that, but they dont put hinata on a pedestal or even mention anything about her and when the do its either about her breast or how shes annoying. And I wouldnt call studio pierrot hinata fanboys, just because of that omake, they just teased her in that omake by saying the staff might even be fans of her. And they said "might". Yeah sure they do a little crazy stuff for her but it looks like they've stopped. The japanese dont give a flying rats ass about that girl and dont even include her in any of their pairing events or even mentioned in the top ten characters. Naturally, sakuras the only female with all the spotlight.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Question for all:

 

Would you prefer Sakura to be a different type of girl than a tsundere or best to leave it like that? Explain.

[Psychox]

I still find it ridiculous how much stuff there is that is not directly involved with NaruSaku yet it can still be connected in a canonical sense. Just listen to this minor rabble and how much it still makes sense despite little of it actually mattering for NaruSaku in the long run, yet the funny stuff about this all is, its true again this does not help NaruSaku but its astounding how much relates:

 

1. As Hinata fans compared Hinata to Minato, there is ironically a couple of things Sakura has in common with Minato, both were normal people, not from any clan as far as we know, considered very smart, prodigies in their respective talents, and studied under a sannin.

 

2. Both Naruto and Sakura have parents whos names begin with an M or a K. Both have a parent with blond or red family hair (pink is in the red family). Even more ironic, their respective parents from both these qualities are the opposite gender towards the others family, Minato and Meubeki have blond hair and names beginning with M but they are the opposite gender, same with Kushina and Kizashi but with red/pink hair and names starting with K.

 

3. Among one of the craziest relationships on the battlefield right now is that between Naruto, Sakura, Minato, Tsunade, and Hashirama. Hashirama was a hokage and related to tsunade. Minato and Tsunade relate with Hashirama by being hokage. Naruto and Sakura aside from being on the same team both inherited techniques from the hokage. Sakura learned from Tsunade who could have learned from Mito who was Hashirama's wife. In a funny way while Naruto carries the will of fire Hashirama began, Sakura carries Tsunade's talents which could be an extension from what Mito or he himself did.

 

Theres possibly a lot more of these minor relations but its kinda funny how these exist.

 

 

Ya know 95% of the time it DOES .

 

Hm i was wondering what if Sakura knew why Sasuke is so obsessed with revenge , would she change her opinion on him..

I highly doubt it for the simple reason he learned the truth(half of it) and chose a wrong path on his own..

While Naruto could have chosen the dark route when he was a kid but didn't , so what does this mean?
 

Naruto was taking mature decisions all the time , while Sasuke .. well..

[Psychox]

Question for all:

 

Would you prefer Sakura to be a different type of girl than a tsundere or best to leave it like that? Explain.

 

 

It fits her perfectly .. design , the way she looks when she gets angry and so on.. I couldn't imagine her being something like Hinata , nah-uh  no way..

[T XD]

Question for all:

 

Would you prefer Sakura to be a different type of girl than a tsundere or best to leave it like that? Explain.

Hell No !

 

Sakura being a tsundere is the best thing for her charcacter. Plus, all the heroines are tsundere, so I can't imagine her being other than tsundere.

 

Tsundre characters are lovely XD

Edited by T XD, 02 August 2013 - 07:23 PM.

[arian_rad]

I think a lot of people miss a huge writing element that kishi uses in his writing and here it's called chekhov's gun. It works like this, if in a chapter, the author that said there is a gun on the wall, that means whatever chapters later, that gun must come off the wall and be used at some point. Now what does this show for Naruhina and NaruSaku? Well when hinata running to the battlefield, it was stated that she would hold naruto's hand and be beside him forever. What do we get during the war? Naruto held Hinata's hand and hinata mentioned she would support and be beside naruto forever in 633. That means Hinata's role towards Naruto in this war is done and dealt with. However if kishi mentioned that naruto plans to confess after he brings sasuke back.. That means that naruto WILL CONFESS when he brings Sasuke back. When kushina mentioned "find someone like your mother" it means ultimately naruto WILL FIND someone like his mother. When Sakura stated "naruto, were going to be together this time and do this together" that ultimately means SAKURA WILL WORK WITH NARUTO AND BE BESIDE HIM. That is however yet to be tested and will come into full effect during Naruto's fight with Sasuke in my opinion. It's simple reading comprehension that people lack and try to look past to make everything about NaruSaku worse and degradable.

[deviouslyChaotic]

 

 

Nicely said , but they still imply that we are ignoring Sakura's wishes and her undying love for Sasuke and above all WE are FORCING her ... Like she has no development no mistrust no nothing  ...

 

Whoa whoa whoa--they think WE are forcing HER?  How about when they try to "force" Naruto into falling in love with Hinata? Or how they try to force Sasuke into loving Sakura? They have no right to be making such statements that are practically dripping in hypocrisy.

 

Question for all:

 

Would you prefer Sakura to be a different type of girl than a tsundere or best to leave it like that? Explain.

Nope! Sakura's my favorite character for a reason. I adore her personality and I find her tsundere-ness to be very humorous. Plus, she's a total badass  AND a smartie. Yeah, I pretty much love everything about her. I wouldn't change a thing about her! :)

[deviouslyChaotic]

I think a lot of people miss a huge writing element that kishi uses in his writing and here it's called chekhov's gun. It works like this, if in a chapter, the author that said there is a gun on the wall, that means whatever chapters later, that gun must come off the wall and be used at some point. Now what does this show for Naruhina and NaruSaku? Well when hinata running to the battlefield, it was stated that she would hold naruto's hand and be beside him forever. What do we get during the war? Naruto held Hinata's hand and hinata mentioned she would support and be beside naruto forever in 633. That means Hinata's role towards Naruto in this war is done and dealt with. However if kishi mentioned that naruto plans to confess after he brings sasuke back.. That means that naruto WILL CONFESS when he brings Sasuke back. When kushina mentioned "find someone like your mother" it means ultimately naruto WILL FIND someone like his mother. When Sakura stated "naruto, were going to be together this time and do this together" that ultimately means SAKURA WILL WORK WITH NARUTO AND BE BESIDE HIM. That is however yet to be tested and will come into full effect during Naruto's fight with Sasuke in my opinion. It's simple reading comprehension that people lack and try to look past to make everything about NaruSaku worse and degradable.

omg what are you talking about everything about narusaku is obviously just a red-herring

[Canadian_DJ]

I found a nice picture showcasing the most important characters involved in the plot.

Picture

There's just one problem (clears throat):
♪One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?
Did you guess which thing was not like the others?
Did you guess which thing just doesn't belong?

If you guessed this one is not like the others,

Then you're absolutely...right!♪

Seriously

That should've been Kakashi there instead of Hinata. I can't believe their make Hinata out to be more relevant than Kakashi. That's just ludicrous.

Yeah i was able to guess on time, pkus i sang along but seriously dude, see what im saying? Ramen posted a post the japanese made about the srongest characters in naruto, and hinata wasnt even on the list. I passed by a thread in one of the japanese forums, and they were predicting what was going to hapoen in the next chapters, and they didnt even mention hinata. They only mentioned the hero, heroine, anti hero, the sensie, thr inportant side charscters (you know who they are) the kages, hokages and the bad guys. Nothing to do with hinata.

This is just a fake made by some hinata desperate fanboys. Have some class man.

I don't know what you're talking about, I think it's a wonderful image!

it really is! Much better!

Lol I was actually singing along. Anyway, damn, I guessed Minato! But seriously, if we include side characters, then Neji and Team 10 should be there. Actually, all of them. Killer Bee as well. Favoritism. Eh.
Edit: You know what, they don't really matter to plot, just development. Sakura has a shot very soon, so her being there could be relevant.

Dude thats fake. And hinats shouldnt be there, she doesnt belong there! The ones that are missing are; shikamaru, ino, choji, lee and neji and kakashi.

[Canadian_DJ]

I have a question! D:
There is a guy named "TheSage" on Yahoo answer, who is a top contributor, and he mentioned a DVD interview of Kishimoto who I guess came out recently, in which Kishimoto said: "Well, Naruto is like me and Sakura is very much like my wife. If a guy like me can marrry a woman like Sakura than Naruto will marry...." and also that Kishimoto wanted to design Hinata as "frumpy and crumpy"
Does anybody know this interview? Or is ot fake? I already tried to contact TheSage, but he won't answer me :/

Im not sure about this, but it could be true. Since Oda did say that kishimotos wife looks like sakura, and that naruto has alot of traits like him. And that hinata is frumpy and krumpy with no sense of style. And that if he had to choose to go out on a date with one of the girls in narutk, he woukdnt which is weird, but he would date hinata if he was forced and only maybe. But he didnt like the whole idea.

[Psychox]

Whoa whoa whoa--they think WE are forcing HER?  How about when they try to "force" Naruto into falling in love with Hinata? Or how they try to force Sasuke into loving Sakura? They have no right to be making such statements that are practically dripping in hypocrisy.

 

Nope! Sakura's my favorite character for a reason. I adore her personality and I find her tsundere-ness to be very humorous. Plus, she's a total badass  AND a smartie. Yeah, I pretty much love everything about her. I wouldn't change a thing about her! :)

 

Those are their words .. when you fight back you are called an idiot or bias and they leave ..

 

Yep! she is a smart Cookie...

 

 

 

 

  <- he loves them