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[Narufan85]

For what it's worth, I hate the ending and that has affected me so much that t I find the rest of the manga a beyond redemption and without reread value.

[James S Cassidy]

I skimmed over what you said and I would like to discuss this with you but I already said I'm not talking about this anymore in this thread. :( Sorry.    

And once again, just like that, I become a victim of injustice....and the very people who do it don't even answer for it.

 

-starts laughing and crying at the same time- They tell me to be aware and not be blind or ignore the problems in the world....and yet they themselves become blind and ignore the very injustice they reap. To quote yourself "All in all, "colorblindness" and things of that sort are just as dangerous as outright injustice, because it downgrades/ignores the issues of certain social groups. Please be "aware" instead of "blind"

This is why the world never changes....

Anyway, I was looking for a picture wasn't I? Oh yes, this one. Personally I like the one on the top left.

 

I think you are being far too quick to paint yourself the victim and it's unbecoming. I hardly think a firm counter to your arguments is treating you like garbage. And you can't blame us for not knowing what you truly think. We can only respond to what you present in each post. To simply dismiss our points as being overly hostile or treating you as garbage is to avoid having this debate in good faith.

 

EDIT: Perhaps the Stephen A. Smith gif was out of line. But for all the criticism you levy at us, you are equal in your refusal to take into consideration what we're actually saying. Rather than offer rebuttals to specific points, you mock and dismiss us as being bullies or people who play the race card. It's hypocritical.

 

So basically....everyone is in the wrong here. We are all human and we all make the same mistakes.

"We are nothing like God. Not only are our powers limited, we are sometimes driven to become the devil himself."
-Wolfwood.

Everyone is a hypocrite. Even you are one. I do not deny my sometimes hypocritical nature, but it is apart of us as being human. However, I want you to be aware that you guys are the first ones to bring this up and the first to attack me. You had the choice to not be apart of the conversation completely just as much as I did and again we both are at fault.

Can't change the past so instead try to learn and learn it for the future. I did say we should cut it out before it got worse, but even I ignored my own advice....even though my post was more for satirical purposes rather than being serious, but semantics. (lol, Man, my post is becoming more real by each post.)

I did give my viewpoints with back-uped propositions, but you kind of ignored them. Remember, sometimes people only see what they want to believe, but looking underneath and between the lines might just show the truth behind it. I knew exactly what you guys are talking about, but that doesn't mean the arguments were flawless. Same with mine.

I see myself no better nor worse than the next person beside me....
 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 07 January 2015 - 11:48 PM.

[LuckyChi7]

@ Naruko, NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, Narusaku256, RyohkiFan, and questdrivencollie 

 

 

Thanks for the Birthday Wishes guys, so far it's been a fun time-consuming day (to say the least if that makes any sense) in hanging out with my cousin Ria, and most of family are concerned for this birthday party of mine that Ria has apparently planned for 2 months now. Luckily for at least a good 30 minutes I'm getting some fresh air lol. 

 

 

and Ryo has got good point Where's My cake??? 

Edited by LuckyChi7, 07 January 2015 - 11:42 PM.

[Michi]

Anyway, I was looking for a picture wasn't I? Oh yes, this one. Personally I like the one on the top left.




 

Even Naruto's hair had such wasted potential.

[Change]

-sigh-

The mistake you all have made is that I never gave any of you my real views at all. You all made judgements of some things based on relatively nothing and automatically jumped down my throat without ever really asking what I truly thought.

Did any of you stop to maybe ask for a little bit more information before you all pushed your views on mine? Did any of you bother to respect my opinion at all? No. You didn't. You all automatically assumed something and jumped down my throat calling me out and making assumptions about me before any of you even knew anything. Hell, half the posts were jokes and you five didn't even notice. I know a few did and they got a kick out of it.

You all want to preach this "tolerance" and not about being "blind to things" and yet, you blindly attack my views without even really knowing anything. Do you see the irony of it? Do you see where I meant by the semantics joke and other such things I have posted. You all became the very thing you are trying to fight...and you are no different than it. Maybe different views, but it is the same style and tactics.

"Judge Slowly"
-Robert Wahl.

Could I be wrong and inaccurate? Maybe, but who are you make that kind of judgment? How many people have actually faced true oppression here? I've come across racist people calling me the most racists names under the sun...would you consider that being oppressed?

I want you to take a step back with me. Just for a moment. That "fly on the wall" as I keep posting and once again people ignore the meaning behind it. Ignore the whole "white person talking to a black person about oppression." Instead, I am James S Cassidy and you are Pix.

Well, Pix...let me tell you my real views about all of this. This world is a dark cruel place and I know that, but I want to change it. I don't change it by "using the very methods" against them. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Instead, I rather be the person that doesn't look at it that way and doesn't be part of the people that reinforces it. It's not that I am unaware of the very things that occur, but rather I don't want to live my life thinking everyone is racist or sexist or anything. There are evil people in this world...and there are good people in this world.

My favorite superhero is Superman. A superhero who stands for Hope that one day humanity can grow up. I want to be just like that, but I also want to make changes that mean something.

Remember when I said that some women are they themselves sexist despite preaching how sexism is wrong? I don't want to be like that. I rather live through example than live through just words alone. Sitting on a forum kittening my head off or kittening about it on tumblr doesn't really change anything now, does it? Instead, I go out and help someone if even only one person a day. I had a worker who was suicidal last week and I didn't even know it. She told me I saved her life all because I told her that life can be beautiful and that she is human. That I appreciate her for her work and how much she has helped me. I looked up to her because she does so much. She was a black women by the way, but I didn't see the color of her skin. I saw a person who just got so stressed out and couldn't take it.

Do you see the difference in how things are handled? Screaming "racism" every single day is not going to end it. We have been doing that for years and yet it still occurs. Instead we need to lead by example. It's not about being unaware...it's about not being apart of it. So you all can scream all you want, but I rather be more proactive and show others how being a true good human being is supposed to act.

It's not going to change the world right away, but every little bit helps.

Yet, you all mock me. You all treat me like garbage because my views are not exactly like yours....so much for all the tolerance and equality you all try to push. Your intentions may be good, but your actions are something less desired. You want to change everyone's opinions through words and force, but you can't. In fact, the more one pushes the more likely the other person is going to push back and change even less. People preach acceptance and yet they accept nothing beyond what they believe.

When I talk to people, I want to learn about them. How they feel, what they think. Sure, we probably disagree, but their views can be sometimes just as beautiful and just as moving. However, these guys, if I may say, are not the kind of people who seem like "good people." These guys get angry and pissed if others views are different. They judge and berate those who don't think exactly as they do and yet they they find their own ways justifiable and think they cannot be judged themselves.

Do you understand what I mean? I know people are capable of so much, but sometimes communication can be off.

Now, like I said, some of you mocked me and berated me. Am I going to get an apology for it? Probably not. Mostly because people feel their right to an opinion excuses them from being jackasses and bullies, but that is okay. I hold no hatred for you guys. Instead, I just hope one day they learn something from this. Something important that you have to find out on your own terms.

"I didn't have to be Muslim to find the images beautiful, or its poetry moving."
-V for Vendetta.

Now don't say everybody was treating you like garbage

Did I call you names? No

Did I talk down on you? No

You ask if we get you, but even in this post you said you didn't speak how you really view things. So how were people going to get you before if you weren't sharing how you really view things. I'm not saying that calling everything racist or sexist is what needs to happen. But talking about such issues need to spoken, whether it's through a forum or tumblr, I agree with you that actions need to be made, but don't act like they haven't been made either.That's why revolutions, wars, and protests have happened in the past(and is currently happening too) relating to oppressed.  There's need to a balance of both talking about and doing something about it. 

[trang95]

@ Naruko, NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, Narusaku256, RyohkiFan, and questdrivencollie 

 

 

Thanks for the Birthday Wishes guys, so far it's been a fun time-consuming day (to say the least) if that makes any sense as far as my cousin Ria, and most of family are concerned for the party. Luckily for at least a good 30 minutes I'm getting some fresh air lol. 

 

 

and Ryo has got good point Where's My cake??? 

Oh, I didn't know it's your birthday today. Happy Birthday!!!

[Khaleesi]

-sigh-

The mistake you all have made is that I never gave any of you my real views at all. You all made judgements of some things based on relatively nothing and automatically jumped down my throat without ever really asking what I truly thought.

Did any of you stop to maybe ask for a little bit more information before you all pushed your views on mine? Did any of you bother to respect my opinion at all? No. You didn't. You all automatically assumed something and jumped down my throat calling me out and making assumptions about me before any of you even knew anything. Hell, half the posts were jokes and you five didn't even notice. I know a few did and they got a kick out of it.

You all want to preach this "tolerance" and not about being "blind to things" and yet, you blindly attack my views without even really knowing anything. Do you see the irony of it? Do you see where I meant by the semantics joke and other such things I have posted. You all became the very thing you are trying to fight...and you are no different than it. Maybe different views, but it is the same style and tactics.

"Judge Slowly"
-Robert Wahl.

Could I be wrong and inaccurate? Maybe, but who are you make that kind of judgment? How many people have actually faced true oppression here? I've come across racist people calling me the most racists names under the sun...would you consider that being oppressed?

I want you to take a step back with me. Just for a moment. That "fly on the wall" as I keep posting and once again people ignore the meaning behind it. Ignore the whole "white person talking to a black person about oppression." Instead, I am James S Cassidy and you are Pix.

Well, Pix...let me tell you my real views about all of this. This world is a dark cruel place and I know that, but I want to change it. I don't change it by "using the very methods" against them. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Instead, I rather be the person that doesn't look at it that way and doesn't be part of the people that reinforces it. It's not that I am unaware of the very things that occur, but rather I don't want to live my life thinking everyone is racist or sexist or anything. There are evil people in this world...and there are good people in this world.

My favorite superhero is Superman. A superhero who stands for Hope that one day humanity can grow up. I want to be just like that, but I also want to make changes that mean something.

Remember when I said that some women are they themselves sexist despite preaching how sexism is wrong? I don't want to be like that. I rather live through example than live through just words alone. Sitting on a forum kittening my head off or kittening about it on tumblr doesn't really change anything now, does it? Instead, I go out and help someone if even only one person a day. I had a worker who was suicidal last week and I didn't even know it. She told me I saved her life all because I told her that life can be beautiful and that she is human. That I appreciate her for her work and how much she has helped me. I looked up to her because she does so much. She was a black women by the way, but I didn't see the color of her skin. I saw a person who just got so stressed out and couldn't take it.

Do you see the difference in how things are handled? Screaming "racism" every single day is not going to end it. We have been doing that for years and yet it still occurs. Instead we need to lead by example. It's not about being unaware...it's about not being apart of it. So you all can scream all you want, but I rather be more proactive and show others how being a true good human being is supposed to act.

It's not going to change the world right away, but every little bit helps.

Yet, you all mock me. You all treat me like garbage because my views are not exactly like yours....so much for all the tolerance and equality you all try to push. Your intentions may be good, but your actions are something less desired. You want to change everyone's opinions through words and force, but you can't. In fact, the more one pushes the more likely the other person is going to push back and change even less. People preach acceptance and yet they accept nothing beyond what they believe.

When I talk to people, I want to learn about them. How they feel, what they think. Sure, we probably disagree, but their views can be sometimes just as beautiful and just as moving. However, these guys, if I may say, are not the kind of people who seem like "good people." These guys get angry and pissed if others views are different. They judge and berate those who don't think exactly as they do and yet they they find their own ways justifiable and think they cannot be judged themselves.

Do you understand what I mean? I know people are capable of so much, but sometimes communication can be off.

Now, like I said, some of you mocked me and berated me. Am I going to get an apology for it? Probably not. Mostly because people feel their right to an opinion excuses them from being jackasses and bullies, but that is okay. I hold no hatred for you guys. Instead, I just hope one day they learn something from this. Something important that you have to find out on your own terms.

"I didn't have to be Muslim to find the images beautiful, or its poetry moving."
-V for Vendetta.

Lmao. I don't even know where to begin. But as said before, since this is a Naruto thread I won't get into it. All what I'm going to say is that we are not taking a eye for an eye. We are claming that an eye was taken from us, and people like you say "forget that eye was taken, even if its still taken from your people. It will make you happier, I promise!". Problems are solved when you talk about it and take actions. You are ignorant and blind but you don't realize it. I was born as a woman and I'm latina. I pretty much know what it feels to be like this. We don't think of everyone as racist or sexist. We want the people who are realize that we won't be silent until they stop killing us, REALLY treating us like garbage and dismissing our experiences. You are now playing the victim. Everyone of us were calling you out on your writen views. Most of the sentences are used by a lot of people that think like you. It's like a copy paste of it. 

Do you want to know what opression is? Sorry, you can't really know. But you can listen. You can listen and learn from the people that live like that every day. There are times that they themselves don't understand, because they are used to be treated like it, it's "normalized". How sad is that? Your view of how the world should be an a few cases of justice or how you will like people to be treated doesn't despict the world. Your own experiences doesn't. Tell me what it feels to be burn when you and all your loved ones are burnt. Try to tell me how to feel better when you pass through all the bullsh** we have to face every day, every minute. 

You can't tell me about all these things, but you can listen. We are all humans, we all have brains. I believe we all are capable to understand the situations even if we can't really feel it.

I hope one day you do.

Edited by theunburnt, 07 January 2015 - 11:47 PM.

[TheFlash]

@ Naruko, NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, Narusaku256, RyohkiFan, and questdrivencollie 
 
 
Thanks for the Birthday Wishes guys, so far it's been a fun time-consuming day (to say the least if that makes any sense) in hanging out with my cousin Ria, and most of family are concerned for this birthday party of mine that Ria has apparently planned for 2 months now. Luckily for at least a good 30 minutes I'm getting some fresh air lol. 
 
 
and Ryo has got good point Where's My cake??? 

Sorry I missed it. Better late than never, Happy Birthday!

Edited by TheFlash, 07 January 2015 - 11:48 PM.

[luffyq1]

And once again, just like that, I become a victim of injustice....and the very people who do it don't even answer for it.

 

-starts laughing and crying at the same time- They tell me to be aware and not be blind or ignore the problems in the world....and yet they themselves become blind and ignore the very injustice they reap. To quote yourself "All in all, "colorblindness" and things of that sort are just as dangerous as outright injustice, because it downgrades/ignores the issues of certain social groups. Please be "aware" instead of "blind"

This is why the world never changes....

Anyway, I was looking for a picture wasn't I? Oh yes, this one. Personally I like the one on the top left.




 

naruto is really butt ugly now and it's hard for me to look at his face. he must go to the same barber as gaara. 

[Pix]

And once again, just like that, I become a victim of injustice....and the very people who do it don't even answer for it.

 

-starts laughing and crying at the same time- They tell me to be aware and not be blind or ignore the problems in the world....and yet they themselves become blind and ignore the very injustice they reap. To quote yourself "All in all, "colorblindness" and things of that sort are just as dangerous as outright injustice, because it downgrades/ignores the issues of certain social groups. Please be "aware" instead of "blind"

This is why the world never changes....

 

Hey, dude, calm down.  

 

You don't have to be rude about it. Nobody wants to talk about it in this thread anymore. Chill. Sounds like you're being insecure right now...  

[Gaara's hair]

naruto is really butt ugly now and it's hard for me to look at his face. he must go to the same barber as gaara. 

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...Gaara died. Must be the hair...the hair is what's causing all these problems!

Edited by Gaara's hair, 07 January 2015 - 11:49 PM.

[FireFox]

Haven't you heard? This thread changed from  "Chatte's Theory Thread" to "Why the Naruto ending sucks" to "Kishi's interviews are dumb" to "The Number One Pizza & Sweets Thread" in this forum.

Fixed it 

I believe i do not hate it, just I do not like it anymore, and NS is a keeper. What will make me hate NS only if kishimoto made Naruto kill or hate Sakura or Sakura kill or hate Naruto.

He already did that metaphorically by  their Parting Away "Reasons" scene  from there on Naruto and Sakura  are no more they barely even interact as we have seen . 

 

 

Haha omg I'll never tell them about Naruto to save them from the pain. 

 

But on a serious note, anime gets worse every year. It's not about creative writing anymore, it's about "which subject appeals to otakus/weeaboos the most". Almost every anime that comes out now is generic trash. Not even joking.

OMG You're right    Erasing that thought right away  

 

And this is pretty much why I'm not gonna touch on manga or anime again maybe  bc its all about the money and fanservice  bc the whole industry is run by Otakus  and after this there is no saving grace  bc the this business is falling apart bc they have a lack of quality material to publish  so their way out is appealing to bunch of Otaku fans that see and care nothing  but pair of kittens  .  So yeah  they can kindly kitten of  I'm not watching or supporting any of that kitten I rather go and read a nice inspiring book with some lesson and message in it  .        

[Advaith]

But on a serious note, anime gets worse every year. It's not about creative writing anymore, it's about "which subject appeals to otakus/weeaboos the most". Almost every anime that comes out now is generic trash. Not even joking.

I saw this long before this ending in general anime and manga but i never imagined it would be this bad. 

 

"Otaku" that's all.

[Pix]

Fixed it 

He already did that metaphorically by  their Parting Away "Reasons" scene  from there on Naruto and Sakura  are no more they barely even interact as we have seen . 

 

 

OMG You're right    Erasing that thought right away  

 

And this is pretty much why I'm not gonna touch on manga or anime again maybe  bc its all about the money and fanservice  bc the whole industry is run by Otakus  and after this there is no saving grace  bc the this business is falling apart bc they have a lack of quality material to publish  so their way out is appealing to bunch of Otaku fans that see and care nothing  but pair of kittens  .  So yeah  they can kindly kitten of  I'm not watching or supporting any of that kitten I rather go and read a nice inspiring book with some lesson and message in it  .        

Anime fell victim to consumerism. Just like popular music. Just like Hollywood movies. Just like books. Just like video games. Anything that can be made as profit can easily fall victim to consumerism.    

 

We need a creative revolution. 

[luffyq1]

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...Gaara died. Must be the hair...the hair is what's causing all these problems!

naruto: *walks in store*

 

barber: well if it isn't the hokage! how may i help my you?

 

naruto: instead of going with the usual, i'll take what gaara is having. i gotta look presentable for this ending.

 

barber:   are you sure you want that, hokage? it's a pretty kitten hairstyle.

 

naruto: i know. a kitten hairstyle matches perfectly with a kitten end, don't cha think?

[ChocolatXVanilla14]

Man was I glad that Fairy Tail replaced Naruto as my favorite manga. I know Mashima won't mess that one up!

[James S Cassidy]

I saw this long before this ending in general anime and manga but i never imagined it would be this bad. 

 

"Otaku" that's all.

I actually want to prove this one wrong. On my channell, I am going to start watching different anime with different people and give insight to the quality of anime and manga respectfully.

[AHK]

So I guess nobody wants to talk about how delicious Kraken is with me?

[Gaara's hair]

naruto: *walks in store*

 

barber: well if it isn't the hokage! how may i help my you?

 

naruto: instead of going with the usual, i'll take what gaara is having. i gotta look presentable for this ending.

 

barber:   are you sure you want that, hokage? it's a pretty sh*tty hairstyle.

 

naruto: i know. a sh*tty hairstyle matches perfectly with a sh*tty end, don't cha think?

The hair is a sign of the fall

[RyohkiFan]

I will be honest with you, it took me some time to like Sakura. I wasn't always a fan.

I never cared for her until her fight in the forest of death and her battle against Ino, so took me awhile too lol

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...Gaara died. Must be the hair...the hair is what's causing all these problems![/size]

CUT IT OFF

@ Naruko, NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, Narusaku256, RyohkiFan, and questdrivencollie 
 
 
Thanks for the Birthday Wishes guys, so far it's been a fun time-consuming day (to say the least if that makes any sense) in hanging out with my cousin Ria, and most of family are concerned for this birthday party of mine that Ria has apparently planned for 2 months now. Luckily for at least a good 30 minutes I'm getting some fresh air lol. 
 
 
and Ryo has got good point Where's My Ice Cream cake??? 

Fixed!