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#49261 Pix

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:25 PM

-sigh-

The mistake you all have made is that I never gave any of you my real views at all. You all made judgements of some things based on relatively nothing and automatically jumped down my throat without ever really asking what I truly thought.

Did any of you stop to maybe ask for a little bit more information before you all pushed your views on mine? Did any of you bother to respect my opinion at all? No. You didn't. You all automatically assumed something and jumped down my throat calling me out and making assumptions about me before any of you even knew anything. Hell, half the posts were jokes and you five didn't even notice. I know a few did and they got a kick out of it.

You all want to preach this "tolerance" and not about being "blind to things" and yet, you blindly attack my views without even really knowing anything. Do you see the irony of it? Do you see where I meant by the semantics joke and other such things I have posted. You all became the very thing you are trying to fight...and you are no different than it. Maybe different views, but it is the same style and tactics.

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Could I be wrong and inaccurate? Maybe, but who are you make that kind of judgment? How many people have actually faced true oppression here? I've come across racist people calling me the most racists names under the sun...would you consider that being oppressed?

I want you to take a step back with me. Just for a moment. That "fly on the wall" as I keep posting and once again people ignore the meaning behind it. Ignore the whole "white man talking to a black man about oppression." Instead, I am James S Cassidy and you are Pix.

Well, Pix...let me tell you my real views about all of this. This world is a dark cruel place and I know that, but I want to change it. I don't change it by "using the very methods" against them. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Instead, I rather be the person that doesn't look at it that way and doesn't be part of the people that reinforces it. It's not that I am unaware of the very things that occur, but rather I don't want to live my life thinking everyone is racist or sexist or anything. There are evil people in this world...and there are good people in this world.

My favorite superhero is Superman. A superhero who stands for Hope that one day humanity can grow up. I want to be just like that, but I also want to make changes that mean something.

Remember when I said that some women are they themselves sexist despite preaching how sexism is wrong? I don't want to be like that. I rather live through example than live through just words alone. Sitting on a forum kittening my head off or kittening about it on tumblr doesn't really change anything now, does it? Instead, I go out and help someone if even only one person a day. I had a worker who was suicidal last week and I didn't even know it. She told me I saved her life all because I told her that life can be beautiful and that she is human. That I appreciate her for her work and how much she has helped me. I looked up to her because she does so much. She was a black women by the way, but I didn't see the color of her skin. I saw a person who just got so stressed out and couldn't take it.

Do you see the difference in how things are handled? Screaming "racism" every single day is not going to end it. We have been doing that for years and yet it still occurs. Instead we need to lead by example. It's not about being unaware...and about not being apart of it. So you all can scream all you want, but I rather be more proactive and show others how being a true good human being is supposed to act.

It's not going to change the world right away, but every little bit helps.

Yet, you all mock me. You all treat me like garbage because my views are not exactly like yours....so much for all the tolerance and equality you all try to push. Your intentions may be good, but your actions are something less desired. You want to change everyone's opinions through words and force, but you can't. In fact, the more one pushes the more likely the other person is going to push back and change even less. People preach acceptance and yet they accept nothing beyond what they believe.

When I talk to people, I want to learn about them. How they feel, what they think. Sure, we probably disagree, but their views can be sometimes just as beautiful and just as moving. However, these guys, if I may say are not the kind of people who seem like "good people." These guys get angry and pissed if others views are different. They judge and berate those who don't think exactly as they do and yet they you find their own ways justifiable and think they cannot be judged themselves.

Do you understand what I mean? I know people are capable of so much, but sometimes communication can be off.

Now, like I said, some of you mocked me and berated me. Am I going to get an apology for it? Probably not. Mostly because people feel their right to an opinion excuses them from being jackasses and bullies, but that is okay. I hold no hatred for you guys. Instead, I just hope one day they learn something from this. Something important that you have to find out on your own terms.

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I skimmed over what you said and I would like to discuss this with you but I already said I'm not talking about this anymore in this thread. :( Sorry.    

 

Anyway no I don't hate Naruto in general I've been reading for 10+ years I just hate the end of the War Arc/Sasuke vs. Naruto/and The Ending/The Last. All of that can disappear. Good God.


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#49262 RyohkiFan

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:25 PM

A question, do you all hate Naruto now or just the ending?

I get irritated with everything, I am like oh it's good but knowing everything was discarded due to advertising part 3, I can't look at it the same...to be honest I don't even know if I hate it..do I make sense? :argh:

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#49263 TheFlash

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:25 PM

The ending, I just can't put that and the rest together.

Same for me. Naruto use to be one of my favorite childhood series so I can't put it all behind me. It had some great moments that I will never forget.

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:26 PM

Ugh.

I'm starting to dislike this thread. -____-

Haven't you heard? This thread changed from  "Chatte's Theory Thread" to "Why the Naruto ending sucks" to "Kishi's interviews are dumb" to "The Number One Offtopic Thread" in this forum.


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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:27 PM

20 years later I'm going to tell my kids to never watch anime ever.

Hahahaha! That Don't want them to be infected by Otakus , and I'll show them a picture of Kikitten and tell them if they ever see him to spit in his disgusting sexist Otaku face  Lol XD . 


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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:27 PM

A question, do you all hate Naruto now or just the ending?

I believe i do not hate it, just I do not like it anymore, and NS is a keeper. What will make me hate NS only if kishimoto made Naruto kill or hate Sakura or Sakura kill or hate Naruto.


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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:27 PM

Same for me. Naruto use to be one of my favorite childhood series so I can't put it all behind me. It had some great moments that I will never forget.

Naruto helped me a lot back then when I was younger. Part 1 means a lot to me, and I won't regret ever having come across Naruto- Part 1.


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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:28 PM

Haven't you heard? This thread changed from  "Chatte's Theory Thread" to "Why the Naruto ending sucks" to "Kishi's interviews are dumb" to "The Number One Offtopic Thread" in this forum.

Speaking about theory, half of what was thought kinda did happened in the Last, unfortunately not the right pairing :cry:

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:29 PM

So what's going on? Anything new?

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:29 PM

A question, do you all hate Naruto now or just the ending?

naruto part 1 is pretty cool, but compared with part 2 it's garbage imo.


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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:30 PM

I get irritated with everything, I am like oh it's good but knowing everything was discarded due to advertising part 3, I can't look at it the same...to be honest I don't even know if I hate it..do I make sense? :argh:

Good point. Naruto is still close to me though, it's what got me into the anime culture. But when it comes to part 3, then no, I also don't care about it.

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:31 PM

Hahahaha! That Don't want them to be infected by Otakus , and I'll show them a picture of Kikitten and tell them if they ever see him to spit in his disgusting sexist Otaku face  Lol XD . 

Haha omg I'll never tell them about Naruto to save them from the pain. 

 

But on a serious note, anime gets worse every year. It's not about creative writing anymore, it's about "which subject appeals to otakus/weeaboos the most". Almost every anime that comes out now is generic trash. Not even joking.


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#49273 RyohkiFan

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:31 PM

20 years later I'm going to tell my kids to never watch anime ever.

The unfortunate thing popularity and money has done to a decent story meant to give an example to people :(

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:34 PM

naruto part 1 is pretty cool, but compared with part 2 it's garbage imo.

I wouldn't say part 2 was garbage but yeah, I also agree that part 1 was way better.

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:34 PM

Good point. Naruto is still close to me though, it's what got me into the anime culture. But when it comes to part 3, then no, I also don't care about it.

Yeah, it was to alot, sad to see it turn out this way :/ I feel that way towards Naruto because I have seen others before it that impact me but I had hopes for Sakura..she kinda inspired me...unfortunately her development went down the drain..

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:35 PM

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:35 PM

-sigh-

The mistake you all have made is that I never gave any of you my real views at all. You all made judgements of some things based on relatively nothing and automatically jumped down my throat without ever really asking what I truly thought.

Did any of you stop to maybe ask for a little bit more information before you all pushed your views on mine? Did any of you bother to respect my opinion at all? No. You didn't. You all automatically assumed something and jumped down my throat calling me out and making assumptions about me before any of you even knew anything. Hell, half the posts were jokes and you five didn't even notice. I know a few did and they got a kick out of it.

You all want to preach this "tolerance" and not about being "blind to things" and yet, you blindly attack my views without even really knowing anything. Do you see the irony of it? Do you see where I meant by the semantics joke and other such things I have posted. You all became the very thing you are trying to fight...and you are no different than it. Maybe different views, but it is the same style and tactics.

"Judge Slowly"
-Robert Wahl.

Could I be wrong and inaccurate? Maybe, but who are you make that kind of judgment? How many people have actually faced true oppression here? I've come across racist people calling me the most racists names under the sun...would you consider that being oppressed?

I want you to take a step back with me. Just for a moment. That "fly on the wall" as I keep posting and once again people ignore the meaning behind it. Ignore the whole "white person talking to a black person about oppression." Instead, I am James S Cassidy and you are Pix.

Well, Pix...let me tell you my real views about all of this. This world is a dark cruel place and I know that, but I want to change it. I don't change it by "using the very methods" against them. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Instead, I rather be the person that doesn't look at it that way and doesn't be part of the people that reinforces it. It's not that I am unaware of the very things that occur, but rather I don't want to live my life thinking everyone is racist or sexist or anything. There are evil people in this world...and there are good people in this world.

My favorite superhero is Superman. A superhero who stands for Hope that one day humanity can grow up. I want to be just like that, but I also want to make changes that mean something.

Remember when I said that some women are they themselves sexist despite preaching how sexism is wrong? I don't want to be like that. I rather live through example than live through just words alone. Sitting on a forum kittening my head off or kittening about it on tumblr doesn't really change anything now, does it? Instead, I go out and help someone if even only one person a day. I had a worker who was suicidal last week and I didn't even know it. She told me I saved her life all because I told her that life can be beautiful and that she is human. That I appreciate her for her work and how much she has helped me. I looked up to her because she does so much. She was a black women by the way, but I didn't see the color of her skin. I saw a person who just got so stressed out and couldn't take it.

Do you see the difference in how things are handled? Screaming "racism" every single day is not going to end it. We have been doing that for years and yet it still occurs. Instead we need to lead by example. It's not about being unaware...it's about not being apart of it. So you all can scream all you want, but I rather be more proactive and show others how being a true good human being is supposed to act.

It's not going to change the world right away, but every little bit helps.

Yet, you all mock me. You all treat me like garbage because my views are not exactly like yours....so much for all the tolerance and equality you all try to push. Your intentions may be good, but your actions are something less desired. You want to change everyone's opinions through words and force, but you can't. In fact, the more one pushes the more likely the other person is going to push back and change even less. People preach acceptance and yet they accept nothing beyond what they believe.

When I talk to people, I want to learn about them. How they feel, what they think. Sure, we probably disagree, but their views can be sometimes just as beautiful and just as moving. However, these guys, if I may say, are not the kind of people who seem like "good people." These guys get angry and pissed if others views are different. They judge and berate those who don't think exactly as they do and yet they they find their own ways justifiable and think they cannot be judged themselves.

Do you understand what I mean? I know people are capable of so much, but sometimes communication can be off.

Now, like I said, some of you mocked me and berated me. Am I going to get an apology for it? Probably not. Mostly because people feel their right to an opinion excuses them from being jackasses and bullies, but that is okay. I hold no hatred for you guys. Instead, I just hope one day they learn something from this. Something important that you have to find out on your own terms.

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I think you are being far too quick to paint yourself the victim and it's unbecoming. I hardly think a firm counter to your arguments is treating you like garbage. And you can't blame us for not knowing what you truly think. We can only respond to what you present in each post. To simply dismiss our points as being overly hostile or treating you as garbage is to avoid having this debate in good faith.

 

EDIT: Perhaps the Stephen A. Smith gif was out of line. But for all the criticism you levy at us, you are equal in your refusal to take into consideration what we're actually saying. Rather than offer rebuttals to specific points, you mock and dismiss us as being bullies or people who play the race card. It's hypocritical.


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#49278 RyohkiFan

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:35 PM

So what's going on? Anything new?

Nothing really, just discussing the ending

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:38 PM

Yeah, it was to alot, sad to see it turn out this way :/ I feel that way towards Naruto because I have seen others before it that impact me but I had hopes for Sakura..she kinda inspired me...unfortunately her development went down the drain..

I will be honest with you, it took me some time to like Sakura. I wasn't always a fan.

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:38 PM

A question, do you all hate Naruto now or just the ending?

I hate what they gave us which is an excuse for an ending. So basically I hate the ending which is really not an ending.


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