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[sushi.]

The reason we're getting off topic is because everyone is getting tried of Naruto. There is really nothing felt worth mentioning. I can only imagine what this place will be like in a couple of years, if it even lasts that long.

Yeah I remember we were talking about candy and other TV shows, this isn't really more off-topic than that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[trang95]

The reason we're getting off topic is because everyone is getting tried of Naruto. There is really nothing felt worth mentioning. I can only imagine what this place will be like in a couple of years, if it even lasts that long.

Lol, I'm being more active in other threads (TG, Noragami, Boku no Hero etc.) than in this one lately.

[Lady Lys]

Oh no, I thought you had seen it like... For real. But yeah, this still diaturbs me and makes me really angry.

Oh no thankfully not, but I have relatives and friends who live not too far from there....so yeah was pretty much hysteric with worry. 

But no more shall be spoken from me on the topic...

[Naruko]

  
Believe me babe, you're a-whole-nother level of spicy ;)
No you weren't

On another note, is it really necessary to have these social discussions in this thread? I mean, I get that it's an important discussion, but it makes a load of people uncomfortable, as it often just leads to poorly constructed arguments/wordings, and makes it all too easy to start to judge others...

Omg don't you dare embarrassing my face here.

This thread isn't really the most appropriate place to do it I agree, but this isn't the kind of subject that you can just run away from because it makes you uncomfortable. If things that make people uncomfortable shouldn't be seen then there would be no news we have violence, racism, sexism, corruption and more down our throats every day and we can't just be silent about it.

[Pix]

I'm pretty sure we covered everything about Naruto there is to cover. But hey, do you guys think Kishimoto will ever tell the truth about the ending or nah?

[Naruko]

I'm pretty sure we covered everything about Naruto there is to cover. But hey, do you guys think Kishimoto will ever tell the truth about the ending or nah?

Nah.

[Pix]

Omg don't you dare embarrassing my face here.

This thread isn't really the most appropriate place to do it I agree, but this isn't the kind of subject that you can just run away from because it makes you uncomfortable. If things that make people uncomfortable shouldn't be seen then there would be no news we have violence, racism, sexism, corruption and more down our throats every day and we can't just be silent about it.

(Also, I was going to say that "cough-if-this-topic-makes-you-uncomfortable-imagine-living-through-it-day-by-day-cough*)

 

Okay I'm officially officially done with talking about social justice in this thread I really promise this time!

[Atheck]

I'm pretty sure we covered everything about Naruto there is to cover. But hey, do you guys think Kishimoto will ever tell the truth about the ending or nah?

 

There's plenty of questions that could be asked and looked over for some time. For instance, we should maintain a lookout for any news regarding the rumoured 12 films of Naruto. What could they be about? Do they even exist in the first place?

[sushi.]

I'm pretty sure we covered everything about Naruto there is to cover. But hey, do you guys think Kishimoto will ever tell the truth about the ending or nah?

I think no because he has SJ and SP on his back. He is not a single writer like JKR who can make statements out of the blue on twitter, without consequences. But he already made really really unwise statements during interviews, so who knows.

[Naruko]

(Also, I was going to say that "cough-if-this-topic-makes-you-uncomfortable-imagine-living-through-it-day-by-day-cough*)
 
Okay I'm officially officially done with talking about social justice in this thread I really promise this time!

I don't because I am white but it really annoys me that people still have to go through this bs.

[Narufan85]

No American history is white history. America was built on the backs of people of color and white people took credit for all of it. That's not even much of a debate that's publicly taught.   
 
And AAH is constantly kept outside of "American History" until the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. I doubt anyone in this thread even knows about the Olmec Tribe, or indentured servants before the social creation of race.  
 
But look, I said I was going to stop talking about this in the  thread so I'm done.

Hey now, let's not generalize too much. I can always paste my comps reading list on Atlantic History :)

[FireFox]

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What its the truth  .

 

I'm pretty sure we covered everything about Naruto there is to cover. But hey, do you guys think Kishimoto will ever tell the truth about the ending or nah?

He's to much of coward to do it  he already lost his balls long time ago   .  But who knows maybe 20 years later  from now on , but by then he might even forgot what Naruto is or that he created it  just like he forgot his plot ,character and story  and rectoned everything even his freaking interviews  .  

[六道仙人]

I'm pretty sure we covered everything about Naruto there is to cover. But hey, do you guys think Kishimoto will ever tell the truth about the ending or nah?

 

Only if he finds his wife in the bed with another man, which it's very possible at this rate

[luffyq1]

I'm pretty sure we covered everything about Naruto there is to cover. But hey, do you guys think Kishimoto will ever tell the truth about the ending or nah?

doesn't matter. the damage has been done and no truth will make this series less crappy, especially after his comments.

[TheFlash]

A question, do you all hate Naruto now or just the ending?

[James S Cassidy]

Oh my god, no no no no no please don't use that argument ever. 

 

"My friends are (insert here) so therefore I can't be wrong, right?"  

 

I have my minor in African American studies specifically. I can tell you, as a person of color myself, that just because you don't see oppression doesn't mean it doesn't exist. After the Civil Rights Movement, the FBI and the CIA attacked black communities frequently, created "hoods" (not neighborhoods), all with the perception that Blacks were at fault for it's own failures, when in fact it was America itself. And no, this stuff isn't a conspiracy, it's just forgotten history (look it up.) 

 

A more current example would be America's terrorism in the Middle East. Our media and our choice of words skewer the perception of oppression. The West lives in a society where it's common to believe that all Muslims are bad and that America is doing justice overseas, even when it was proven that there were no "weapons of mass destruction". Hmmm...but nope, let's ignore that, and continue to hate the entire Muslim religion, right?    

 

Another thing you should take into account is internalized oppression. A lot of oppressed groups ignore the injustices happening towards them because it's easier to live in a society where you conform to what people make of you. This is more common that people think. This is why most of the time you won't find people vocally expressing their problems out loud.

 

All in all, "colorblindness" and things of that sort are just as dangerous as outright injustice, because it downgrades/ignores the issues of certain social groups. Please be "aware" instead of "blind".  

 

 

...Also, if a lot of people are preaching the same thing to you and giving you examples/reasoning behind it, don't you think you should at least consider that maybe your views are inaccurate?

-sigh-

The mistake you all have made is that I never gave any of you my real views at all. You all made judgements of some things based on relatively nothing and automatically jumped down my throat without ever really asking what I truly thought.

Did any of you stop to maybe ask for a little bit more information before you all pushed your views on mine? Did any of you bother to respect my opinion at all? No. You didn't. You all automatically assumed something and jumped down my throat calling me out and making assumptions about me before any of you even knew anything. Hell, half the posts were jokes and you five didn't even notice. I know a few did and they got a kick out of it.

You all want to preach this "tolerance" and not about being "blind to things" and yet, you blindly attack my views without even really knowing anything. Do you see the irony of it? Do you see where I meant by the semantics joke and other such things I have posted. You all became the very thing you are trying to fight...and you are no different than it. Maybe different views, but it is the same style and tactics.

"Judge Slowly"
-Robert Wahl.

Could I be wrong and inaccurate? Maybe, but who are you make that kind of judgment? How many people have actually faced true oppression here? I've come across racist people calling me the most racists names under the sun...would you consider that being oppressed?

I want you to take a step back with me. Just for a moment. That "fly on the wall" as I keep posting and once again people ignore the meaning behind it. Ignore the whole "white person talking to a black person about oppression." Instead, I am James S Cassidy and you are Pix.

Well, Pix...let me tell you my real views about all of this. This world is a dark cruel place and I know that, but I want to change it. I don't change it by "using the very methods" against them. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Instead, I rather be the person that doesn't look at it that way and doesn't be part of the people that reinforces it. It's not that I am unaware of the very things that occur, but rather I don't want to live my life thinking everyone is racist or sexist or anything. There are evil people in this world...and there are good people in this world.

My favorite superhero is Superman. A superhero who stands for Hope that one day humanity can grow up. I want to be just like that, but I also want to make changes that mean something.

Remember when I said that some women are they themselves sexist despite preaching how sexism is wrong? I don't want to be like that. I rather live through example than live through just words alone. Sitting on a forum kittening my head off or kittening about it on tumblr doesn't really change anything now, does it? Instead, I go out and help someone if even only one person a day. I had a worker who was suicidal last week and I didn't even know it. She told me I saved her life all because I told her that life can be beautiful and that she is human. That I appreciate her for her work and how much she has helped me. I looked up to her because she does so much. She was a black women by the way, but I didn't see the color of her skin. I saw a person who just got so stressed out and couldn't take it.

Do you see the difference in how things are handled? Screaming "racism" every single day is not going to end it. We have been doing that for years and yet it still occurs. Instead we need to lead by example. It's not about being unaware...it's about not being apart of it. So you all can scream all you want, but I rather be more proactive and show others how being a true good human being is supposed to act.

It's not going to change the world right away, but every little bit helps.

Yet, you all mock me. You all treat me like garbage because my views are not exactly like yours....so much for all the tolerance and equality you all try to push. Your intentions may be good, but your actions are something less desired. You want to change everyone's opinions through words and force, but you can't. In fact, the more one pushes the more likely the other person is going to push back and change even less. People preach acceptance and yet they accept nothing beyond what they believe.

When I talk to people, I want to learn about them. How they feel, what they think. Sure, we probably disagree, but their views can be sometimes just as beautiful and just as moving. However, these guys, if I may say, are not the kind of people who seem like "good people." These guys get angry and pissed if others views are different. They judge and berate those who don't think exactly as they do and yet they they find their own ways justifiable and think they cannot be judged themselves.

Do you understand what I mean? I know people are capable of so much, but sometimes communication can be off.

Now, like I said, some of you mocked me and berated me. Am I going to get an apology for it? Probably not. Mostly because people feel their right to an opinion excuses them from being jackasses and bullies, but that is okay. I hold no hatred for you guys. Instead, I just hope one day they learn something from this. Something important that you have to find out on your own terms.

"I didn't have to be Muslim to find the images beautiful, or its poetry moving."
-V for Vendetta.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 07 January 2015 - 11:26 PM.

[sushi.]

A question, do you all hate Naruto now or just the ending?

The ending, I just can't put that and the rest together.

[Pix]

What its the truth  .

 

He's to much of coward to do it  he already lost his balls long time ago   .  But who knows maybe 20 years later  from now on , but by then he might even forgot what Naruto is or that he created it  just like he forgot his plot ,character and story  and rectoned everything even his freaking interviews  .  

20 years later I'm going to tell my kids to never watch anime ever.

[Michi]

Ugh.

I'm starting to dislike this thread. -____-

[AHK]

Omg don't you dare embarrassing my face here.
This thread isn't really the most appropriate place to do it I agree, but this isn't the kind of subject that you can just run away from because it makes you uncomfortable. If things that make people uncomfortable shouldn't be seen then there would be no news we have violence, racism, sexism, corruption and more down our throats every day and we can't just be silent about it.

Can't guarantee that ;)

I'm not saying run away, I don't really mind the discussion, I was mainly concerned about here being the place. I don't mind off topic, but there are others here that find particular topic to be a little too touchy to be discussed in this particular thread.

As an alternative off-topic discussion, we can talk about how this guy just bought a nice bottle of Kracken and is feeling mighty excited about it