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[PhenixElite]

You're welcome. Thank you for the compliment.

Here's a topic to have fun with. At what point you think Kishi was a parallel fanatic?

I think he started when he thought about jirayas story which is in connection with his paretns or something like that maybe.
So i think it was in the middle of part 1

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I dont think he's fanatic i think he had to make parallel to explain what he's doing and what is going to happen like a foreshadowing.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I dont think he's fanatic i think he had to make parallel to explain what he's doing and what is going to happen like a foreshadowing.

You can say that. A better way to ask is when you get the idea that Kishi is using a parallel formula to address the audience of what's to come.

[PhenixElite]

You can say that. A better way to ask is when you get the idea that Kishi is using a parallel formula to address the audience of what's to come.

Yeah! but not exactly whats to come. Hes just showing what they did and what naruto is going to do better.

[narulsaku]

You can say that. A better way to ask is when you get the idea that Kishi is using a parallel formula to address the audience of what's to come.

i think when jiraya started to train naruto. he felt that this boy has got something and found that he can achive hights like him or more than him.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah! but not exactly whats to come. Hes just showing what they did and what naruto is going to do better.

You're right. Thanks for correcting me.

[PhenixElite]

You're right. Thanks for correcting me.

no youre also right it was just to add.

[Transformers03]

You can say that. A better way to ask is when you get the idea that Kishi is using a parallel formula to address the audience of what's to come.

Well, maybe it's not to address the audience of what's to come, but to make them not want to see Team 7 have to same fate. Like when Jariaya died and list off his biggest mistakes (which are similar to Naruto's goals, minus being Hokage), didn't feel bad for him and made us cheer for Naruto even more, because we now don't want to see him end up like Jariaya.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Good responses. I agree. Funny, this is how I reacted.

JiraTsu: Wow. So sad. Naruto got to succeed. I'm sure that's what Kishi is trying to tell us. This is a parallel after all.

MinaKushi: How nice of them to get together. Funny, this is another parallel to Naruto. Nah, maybe it's coincidence. Surely, Kishi didn't mean to do parallel.

ObiRin: Ok! Seriously, another one. I'm convinced. He's doing parallels. No way it's hard to miss this. And here I thought I must be imagining things. If I get Rikudou parallel, I swear I'll...

So yeah, I didn't think he was doing these until the recent one.

[PhenixElite]

Good responses. I agree. Funny, this is how I reacted.

JiraTsu: Wow. So sad. Naruto got to succeed. I'm sure that's what Kishi is trying to tell us. This is a parallel after all.

MinaKushi: How nice of them to get together. Funny, this is another parallel to Naruto. Nah, maybe it's coincidence. Surely, Kishi didn't mean to do parallel.

ObiRin: Ok! Seriously, another one. I'm convinced. He's doing parallels. No way it's hard to miss this. And here I thought I must be imagining things. If I get Rikudou parallel, I swear I'll...

So yeah, I didn't think he was doing these until the recent one.

Haha lol, you first thought minakushi is no parallel. Why ??

[TouKen4Life3g]

Haha lol, you first thought minakushi is no parallel. Why ??

Well, it just felt like I was dreaming. Then again, I read this so late that I was falling asleep. I did wait for the release. Anyway, back in Jiraiya's flashback, I remember people back then were jumpy saying that she looks like Sakura. Then Hinata (long hair). Then Orihime from Bleach (don't ask...). I just sat there and thought "Neat."

When the chapter was released, she seems so nice at the start. Naruto kept thinking it's a trick. I laughed. Then she hits him in that face. I was like "Holy crap! Hm...I seen this before..." Then after the flashback of how Minato and Kushina fell in love, I couldn't believe what I read. It was too hard to chew. I tried to deny it. I mean yes, they are all people themselves, different from anyone, but the way it process is similar no doubt. Of course, the timing is different and how it happen is different but the route is similar. It's just so happen Naruto went route B which takes a long time. I even find it funny that Kishi brought back the mother being scary concept, let alone reference to Shikamaru. As I said before, why create panels like those in the manga. Surely, it has a purpose and it's shown. So yeah, I accept it being similar. Don't get me started on the movie. Good God...

Yeah, that's my story. Sakura is the right person for Naruto. It will happen again to their kid(s). The whole "Mom is scary" concept. Mother can be nice, but man, DON'T PUSH HER. Even in the mother it's shown. Looks like Minato was scared of her at two moments: one is when Naruto didn't want to eat dinner, I mean look at his face, it's like "Please Naruto. Eat. Else we are dead;" the other is what it seems to be after the slap by Minato to Naruto, Kushina returns from recovery, and Minato looks like he made an expression of "Hey...don't get mad, I scold him because he was reckless...right?" I have to check those videos again, but you get my point.

[redragon88]

Good responses. I agree. Funny, this is how I reacted.

JiraTsu: Wow. So sad. Naruto got to succeed. I'm sure that's what Kishi is trying to tell us. This is a parallel after all.

MinaKushi: How nice of them to get together. Funny, this is another parallel to Naruto. Nah, maybe it's coincidence. Surely, Kishi didn't mean to do parallel.

ObiRin: Ok! Seriously, another one. I'm convinced. He's doing parallels. No way it's hard to miss this. And here I thought I must be imagining things. If I get Rikudou parallel, I swear I'll...

So yeah, I didn't think he was doing these until the recent one.

Funny, that reminds me of a discussion we had a long time ago about the possibility of Sakura being the reincarnation of Rikudo's wife.

If Kishimoto still has parallel to offer with other characters I would prefer for it to be with Hashirama and Mito. This previous post I made explains it well:

^ I have a little wishful thinking that maybe Sakura could fight along side Naruto against Madara while the rest of the alliance provides the necessary backup so that the two aren't overwhelmed.

If Mito was truly there during the fight of Hashirama and Madara it would be pretty interesting that if Madara ends up fighting against Naruto and Sakura that he could flashback to Hashirama and Mito fighting him off. It would be another parallel fanservice from Kishi. It would be Naruto and Sakura (the pair of the current generation) finishing the long lasting battle that Hashirama and Mito (the pair of the first generation) started so many decades ago against Madara, the original enemy of Konoha. And thus ending his dark influence once and for all. A little dramatic, I know, but crazier things have happened.

Of course this is just my personal hope. But hey, we live in a world we're the Tobito theory was proven true so anything can happen.

I just hope that Sakura gets to do something that makes her stand out from the rest of the alliance when they arrive. She shouldn't be on the same level of prominence as the rest of the rookies simply for the fact that she's one of the main characters and love interest of the hero.

[PhenixElite]

Well, it just felt like I was dreaming. Then again, I read this so late that I was falling asleep. I did wait for the release. Anyway, back in Jiraiya's flashback, I remember people back then were jumpy saying that she looks like Sakura. Then Hinata (long hair). Then Orihime from Bleach (don't ask...). I just sat there and thought "Neat."

When the chapter was released, she seems so nice at the start. Naruto kept thinking it's a trick. I laughed. Then she hits him in that face. I was like "Holy crap! Hm...I seen this before..." Then after the flashback of how Minato and Kushina fell in love, I couldn't believe what I read. It was too hard to chew. I tried to deny it. I mean yes, they are all people themselves, different from anyone, but the way it process is similar no doubt. Of course, the timing is different and how it happen is different but the route is similar. It's just so happen Naruto went route B which takes a long time. I even find it funny that Kishi brought back the mother being scary concept, let alone reference to Shikamaru. As I said before, why create panels like those in the manga. Surely, it has a purpose and it's shown. So yeah, I accept it being similar. Don't get me started on the movie. Good God...

Yeah, that's my story. Sakura is the right person for Naruto. It will happen again to their kid(s). The whole "Mom is scary" concept. Mother can be nice, but man, DON'T PUSH HER. Even in the mother it's shown. Looks like Minato was scared of her at two moments: one is when Naruto didn't want to eat dinner, I mean look at his face, it's like "Please Naruto. Eat. Else we are dead;" the other is what it seems to be after the slap by Minato to Naruto, Kushina returns from recovery, and Minato looks like he made an expression of "Hey...don't get mad, I scold him because he was reckless...right?" I have to check those videos again, but you get my point.

Haha i felt the same, kushina hitting naruto extremly remembered me of sakura. Just like when she hit naruto in the beginning of part 2 and konohamaru is afraid of her.

I think it was kishis plan from the beginning. I mean if we think about a story witht a hero and a heroine coming together without any complications, like the heroine loving someone else in the beginning(sasuke) would be boring, there wont be the same excitement. Thats also one of the points why i think kishi made sasuke leave the village. If sasuke stayed in konoha naruto wouldnt have a big chance of getting with sakura because she would ignore everything and would just focus on sasuke(just like part 1).

So in the end like we also see now, kishi makes naruto also a big lovestory. When i started to read naruto i was more like "ohh this is going to be only action and adventure" but now i also see it as a lovestory.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Haha lol, you first thought minakushi is no parallel. Why ??

It is but in a small scale i think it should not be in the same place as jiratsu and obi/rin because it lacks more evidence, the only thing we know is that kushina and sakura are tsunderes and only.

Edited by dovahkiin, 07 October 2012 - 09:22 PM.

[PhenixElite]

It is but in a small scale i think it should not be in the same place as jiratsu and obi/rin because it lacks more evidence, the only thing we know is that kushina and sakura are tsunderes and only.

Thats true. But we also got some nice points like kushina also beeing a jinjuriki, getting told by mito that the only way for a jinjuriki to life a happy life is to get the hearth filled with love by someone.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Thats true. But we also got some nice points like kushina also beeing a jinjuriki, getting told by mito that the only way for a jinjuriki to life a happy life is to get the hearth filled with love by someone.

Well you distorced it a bit, she said not to have the hearth filled with love by someome but to fill itself with love and be happy, she said something like "fill the recipient with love".

[merryGOflava]

It is but in a small scale i think it should not be in the same place as jiratsu and obi/rin because it lacks more evidence, the only thing we know is that kushina and sakura are tsunderes and only.

i think the way kushina thought minato wasnt cool or reliable is alot like how sakura was with naruto :3

and how kushina thought his dream was silly, same with sakura XD

and her insecurity with her red hair like sakura's with her forehead

so i dont think its just her being a tsundere that connects her to sakura :3

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

i think the way kushina thought minato wasnt cool or reliable is alot like how sakura was with naruto :3

and how kushina thought his dream was silly, same with sakura XD

and her insecurity with her red hair like sakura's with her forehead

so i dont think its just her being a tsundere that connects her to sakura :3

everyone thought his dream was silly but her dream was silly too she wanted to be the first womant to become hokage and the class laugh at her, sakura did not had this dream she just wanted sasuke.

about insecurity every girl has insecurities.

there are peices missing and i doubt kishi will show it because the whole naruto family is already done.

[merryGOflava]

everyone thought his dream was silly but her dream was silly too she wanted to be the first womant to become hokage and the class laugh at her, sakura did not had this dream she just wanted sasuke.

about insecurity every girl has insecurities.

there are peices missing and i doubt kishi will show it because the whole naruto family is already done.

1) i didnt say sakura had a dream.....i said sakura laughed at naruto's dream XD same with kushina did to minato's

2) :3 well no duh, but kishi didnt point out others girls insecurities did he? XD sakura and kushina's insecurities were both complimented by the boys :3 THATS whats in common XD

[narulsaku]

oh but as i remember kushina didnt laughed at him . she thought that someone like him can never be a hokage. other students laughed.and there are some common between minakusi and narusaku. but kushina and sakura i dont think so.