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[jak123]

too bad "growth' for Sakura goes out the window when dealing with Sasuke, yet she married him anyway because "his hotness" makes her weak in the knees

Forget the fact he tried to murder her and that he told her on multiple occasions that he didn't care about her.

[Dalton.T.R]

Forget the fact he tried to murder her and that he told her on multiple occasions that he didn't care about her.

He did it out of love. Clearly you guys have no idea how relationships work. If the guy tries to kill you, you're obviously supposed to fall madly in love with him and produce a kid that he will practically ignore. 

[griff142]

too bad "growth' for Sakura goes out the window when dealing with Sasuke, yet she married him anyway because "his hotness" makes her weak in the knees

Exactly, why have a character develop just for all to be thrown out the window at the end? Shows bad writing and makes the author look foolish but I guess the money was worth it. Sakura should have punched Sasuke at the end and not marry him. Would have been a closure between them if you ask me.

[Phantom_999]

He did it out of love. Clearly you guys have no idea how relationships work. If the guy tries to kill you, you're obviously supposed to fall madly in love with him and produce a kid that he will practically ignore. 

 

Exactly so!

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

 

And that's the problem because majority of the fandom was ignoring Sakura's development and thinking Hinata was near important status character where in reality of the plot, she wasn't even part of the ones who are in that level like Shikamaru.

Heck, even without better assests, alot of the women in Naruto are way better looking than Hinata so she kind of needed those assests to even compete. Sakura wad always prettier in my opinion. Early in the manga she was placed to be the prettiest one. Even though, she was bullied for her forehead she was going to overcome that and show it off to show she can be pretty no matter what. Confidence was supposed to be apart of her growth.

Her subjects just don't want to admit that her bewbs are ALL she has going for her since, without them, as we saw to their reactions to her shrinking in Boruto, NOBODY truly likes her, and even then, they're hardly the best ones, and the other females at least have some sort of personality.

[griff142]

Her subjects just don't want to admit that her bewbs are ALL she has going for her since, without them, as we saw to their reactions to her shrinking in Boruto, NOBODY truly likes her, and even then, they're hardly the best ones, and the other females at least have some sort of personality.

Also, for the most part she wasn't that great in a fight either. Yeah, she had the Byakugan and gentle fists but she wasn't the most skilled ninja like her cousin Neji. I would say most of the girls in Naruto could probably take her.

[Phantom_999]

Yeah If Naruto wasn't cheering for her would have lost to Neji with out even putting up a fight. when you think about it Neji was the perfect opponetn for Hinata, because if it wasn't for his arrogant attitude towards Hinata and how power and skill is something you are born with and not something you earn Naruto wouldn'd have yelled for Hinata not to lose and she wouldn't have fought back against Neji. In fact I think that if it was Sakura fighting against Hinata, Naruto would have been cheering for Sakura and Hinata would have lost all motivation to fight and Sakura would have handed Hinata's @$$ to her on a silver platter

Edited by Phantom_999, 11 May 2018 - 10:34 PM.

[rocci]

Also, for the most part she wasn't that great in a fight either. Yeah, she had the Byakugan and gentle fists but she wasn't the most skilled ninja like her cousin Neji. I would say most of the girls in Naruto could probably take her.

I don't think most girl could take her down. The one who Van take Hinata or Hyuga in general is someone who has long range attack or you are faster. If a Hyuga has kaiten then weapon thrower Will be out of question. Luckily Hinata doesn't show any remarkable threat nor feat to make her a legitimate fighter.

But her fan zealously call that she's the best fighter just because she's a Hyuga eventough it all hype and no feat.

Even until now there's still people that said part 2 sakura Will lose to Hinata despite sakura has big aoe super punch.

[rocci]

Yeah If Naruto wasn't cheering for her would have lost to Neji with out even putting up a fight. when you think about it Neji was the perfect opponetn for Hinata, because if it wasn't for his arrogant attitude towards Hinata and how power and skill is something you are born with and not something you earn Naruto wouldn'd have yelled for Hinata not to lose and she wouldn't have fought back against Neji. In fact I think that if it was Sakura fighting against Hinata, Naruto would have been cheering for Sakura and Hinata would have lost all motivation to fight and Sakura would have handed Hinata's @$$ to her on a silver platter

Nah, sakura Will not win again Hinata in part 1 because sakura doesn't have any Jutsu. Infact i don't think sakura should win again Ino. Hinata is her worst match up in part 1.

I think of Kishi should give a jutsu to part 1 sakura, like genjutsu. A weak one is enough.

[Dalton.T.R]

I'm actually amazed Ino didn't have a bigger perverted fanbase. Sure, her boobs weren't as big, but she revealed a decent amount of skin. 

[rocci]

I'm actually amazed Ino didn't have a bigger perverted fanbase. Sure, her boobs weren't as big, but she revealed a decent amount of skin. 

Ino actually has big boobs. While not as big as Hinata, her personality is kind of like sakura. She's a kitten and like Sasuke. And i don't think Kishi truly sexualize her.

I think in Naruto if you want to be popular, the character need to lick Naruto ass or powerful .

[Phantom_999]

Nah, sakura Will not win again Hinata in part 1 because sakura doesn't have any Jutsu. Infact i don't think sakura should win again Ino. Hinata is her worst match up in part 1.

I think of Kishi should give a jutsu to part 1 sakura, like genjutsu. A weak one is enough.

 

That's where you're wrong. Hinata has no motivation to fight ANYONE unless Naruto is cheering her on, (that is what happened with Neji where Hinata mistook Naruto telling her not to lose because of him looking down on hard work and over coming what status you are born to as him directly encouraging her) so even though Sakura doesn't have any technique doesn't mean she can't win because at least she will be determined to fight where as Hinata probably won't be. You look down on part I Sakura too much and over praise Hinata

Edited by Phantom_999, 11 June 2018 - 03:40 PM.

[Kagomaru]

 

That's where you're wrong Hinata has no motivation to fight ANYONE unless Naruto is cheering her on, (that is what happened with Neji where Hinata mistook Naruto telling her not to lose because of him looking down on hard work and over coming what status you are born to as him directly encouraging her) so even though Sakura doesn't have any  technique doesn't mean she can't win because at least she will be determined to fight where as Hinata probably won't be. You look down on part I Sakura too much and over praise Hinata

 

I agree that rocci is seriously underselling Pre-Timeskip Sakura here. Sakura already found her motivation by that point to become a better ninja in general (while Hinata specifically requires Naruto to get her to do anything)and even if she didn't have her own techniques at that point in time, she's smart enough to know how to properly apply her academy ninjutsu and tools as well as the fact, IIRC, she already had knowledge of the Hyuuga Gentle Fist style and its mechanics, so she knows to maintain a respectable distance between herself and Hinata.  Sakura's also proven by this point just how much punishment she can withstand, as we saw with her encounter with the three Sound Nins. Furthermore, Hinata's performance was always entirely dependent on how much attention and encouragement Naruto gave her. If Naruto cheered Sakura on during this hypothetical battle, it would only serve to kill any motivation HInata would have to win.  Battle is just as much psychological as it is physical, and considering how fickle Hinata's self-esteem is and that there is little difference in terms of physical ability between Sakura and Hinata outside of Hinata's technique, Part 1 Sakura would have a good shot at beating her.

Edited by Kagomaru, 12 May 2018 - 04:13 AM.

[griff142]

I agree that rocci is seriously underselling Pre-Timeskip Sakura here. Sakura already found her motivation by that point to become a better ninja in general (while Hinata specifically requires Naruto to get her to do anything)and even if she didn't have her own techniques at that point in time, she's smart enough to know how properly apply her academy ninjutsu and tools as well as the fact, IIRC, she already had knowledge of the Hyuuga Gentle Fist style, so she knows to maintain a certain level of distance between herself and Hinata.  Sakura's also proven by this point just how much punishment she can withstand, as we saw with her encounter with the three Sound Nins. Furthermore, Hinata's performance was always entirely dependent on how much attention and encouragement Naruto gave her. If Naruto cheered Sakura on during this hypothetical battle, it would only serve to kill any motivation HInata would have to win.  Battle is just as much psychological as it is physical, and considering fickle Hinata's self-esteem and that there is little difference in terms of physical ability between Sakura and Hinata outside of Hinata's technique, Part 1 Sakura would have a good shot at beating her.

I totally agree and also the fact she has better will power than Hinata. This is shown by that she was able to overcome Ino's Mind Transfer jutsu and beating an Yamanaka's jutsu is not a small feat. With Part 2 Sakura it wouldn't even be a sparring match because it would only take one punch to knock Hinata out. Sakura is the female version of One Punch Man in this series. I don't care how powerful you are because if you get hit by that, good luck getting up.

[Kagomaru]

I totally agree and also the fact she has better will power than Hinata. This is shown by that she was able to overcome Ino's Mind Transfer jutsu and beating an Yamanaka's jutsu is not a small feat. With Part 2 Sakura it wouldn't even be a sparring match because it would only take one punch to knock Hinata out. Sakura is the female version of One Punch Man in this series. I don't care how powerful you are because if you get hit by that, good luck getting up.

It goes without saying that Part 2 Sakura annihilates her. This is the girl that managed to hurt a GOD(aka Kaguya) with an unsealed punch and tore through an army of Juubi clones by herself, whereas Hinata needed to psyche herself up just to defeat *one* of the latter mentioned.  And even without releasing her seal, she could take Hinata out with contemptuous ease simply by punching the ground, letting the consequent shockwaves send her flying.

Edited by Kagomaru, 12 May 2018 - 04:43 AM.

[DrK]

Why is Kaiten even a good technique anyway? Realistically you will just waste all your chakra blowing things away while you are completely immobile. You don't do any damage just blow away an attack. How is that good? The attack would have to cost more chakra than what looks like this giant white cloud of energy for it to even be worth doing.

Edited by DrK, 12 May 2018 - 04:38 AM.

[rocci]

 
That's where you're wrong Hinata has no motivation to fight ANYONE unless Naruto is cheering her on, (that is what happened with Neji where Hinata mistook Naruto telling her not to lose because of him looking down on hard work and over coming what status you are born to as him directly encouraging her) so even though Sakura doesn't have any  technique doesn't mean she can't win because at least she will be determined to fight where as Hinata probably won't be. You look down on part I Sakura too much and over praise Hinata

No, i don't look down at anyone. I just see what it is.

You are not different than the Hinata fan who said that Hinata Will win in part 2 especially war arc because she's a Hyuga.

You are the one who overpraise sakura. Part 1 Sakura has no combat ability outside of basic ninja training. Do you think a genin with no combat ninjutsu Will win again a Hyuga?

Hinata is bad fighter but sakura in part 1 is worse, despite sakura having more combat potential.

[rocci]

I totally agree and also the fact she has better will power than Hinata. This is shown by that she was able to overcome Ino's Mind Transfer jutsu and beating an Yamanaka's jutsu is not a small feat. With Part 2 Sakura it wouldn't even be a sparring match because it would only take one punch to knock Hinata out. Sakura is the female version of One Punch Man in this series. I don't care how powerful you are because if you get hit by that, good luck getting up.

Sorry but Ino should win the fight. I think if kishi give sakura a Jutsu, i Will put my money on sakura.

@drk
Kaiten only good again projectile. They're not a strong defensif technique.
I don't think it can stop chakra attack since it Will blow up like Naruto vs Neji.

So kaiten is good again weapon user and non gate taijutsu user.

Edited by rocci, 12 May 2018 - 05:00 AM.

[DrK]

Sorry but Ino should win the fight. I think if kishi give sakura a Jutsu, i Will put my money on sakura.

@drk
Kaiten only good again projectile. They're not a strong defensif technique.
I don't think it can stop chakra attack since it Will blow up like Naruto vs Neji.

So kaiten is good again weapon user and non gate taijutsu user.

So Part 1 Sakura fights Part 1 Hinata. Sakura throws kunai at Hinata, to which Hinata uses Kaiten. So Sakura throws a shuriken at Hinata and Hinata then uses Kaiten. Sakura throws a love note she got from Naruto at Hinata, etc. So Hinata is exhausting herself while Sakura expends no energy at all. Then when Sakura throws her very last projectile she can go pick them up again while Hinata is winding up to use Kaiten or using Kaiten or recovering from Kaiten. It just seems absolutely worthless.

[rocci]

So Part 1 Sakura fights Part 1 Hinata. Sakura throws kunai at Hinata, to which Hinata uses Kaiten. So Sakura throws a shuriken at Hinata and Hinata then uses Kaiten. Sakura throws a love note she got from Naruto at Hinata, etc. So Hinata is exhausting herself while Sakura expends no energy at all. Then when Sakura throws her very last projectile she can go pick them up again while Hinata is winding up to use Kaiten or using Kaiten or recovering from Kaiten. It just seems absolutely worthless.

Hinata can't use kaiten even until the end of Naruto. The only Hyuga who ever show to do that are Neji and hiasi. Heck Hinata can't even closed tenketsu. Hinata is weak even for Hyuga standar.

But even so, i Will not make claim that sakura Will win because unlike sakura, Hinata has gentle fist(jyuken).
This is part 1. Sakura is incredibly weak despite having more combat potential.

Throwing kunai is what ordinary ninja do, but sakura is not tenten who is the weapon specialized. And byakugan give Hinata better preception.

All in all if kishi give sakura a Jutsu or two in part 1, I Will guarantee you that all the talk about sakura bring useless Will be reduce.