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[rocci]

I think the art style become more like Kishimoto and better.

@jak123
That's why it's useless for Hinata to married Naruto when their son doesn't inherit Hyuga power.

Salad appearance is like Sasuke and Karin, but her character is like sakura uchiha.
Salad is pretty much what happen of sakura doesn't have Sasuke.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I've always found it interesting when looking at Boruto and Sarada. They look absolutely NOTHING like their mothers so it makes you wonder who was in mind for their mothers during their conception. Especially Sarada who looks like the love child of Sasuke and Karin.

 

Oh, yeah, and it keeps reminding me that they're more likely originally envisioned as NaruSaku and SasuKarin children before Studio Pierrot and Kishimoto's editors and the insane NH fans had gone out of their way to get what they wanted, not thinking about the story itself or what Kishimoto had planned.

[Phantom_999]

Yeah At least Boruto inherited all of Naruto's genetic traits. Blonde hair, blue eyes, etc other wise he would look like some unholy hell spawn like his sister

[James S Cassidy]

Ok, but he shouldn't have felt bad for Hinata at all. It's not his fault he's socially inept. He had no friends when he was growing up. Because Hinata just stood and watched him from far away instead of spending time with him. So Hinata benefits from a failing in Naruto which she helped to cause.

Yeah, but nice guys are going to do that. They are going to take the blame for things that are out of their control because that is how nice they are plus this is also how society expects them to act. Going back to my original point in the other thread, when a nice guy refuses to take the blame for something or even fights back by saying how ridiculous something is for them to take the blame for....all of a sudden they are no longer the nice guy ordained by society.

This is the exact same reasoning NH radicals fans had during this story. "If Naruto doesn't pay Hinata any attention, he is the ultimate scumbag." That is how it all happened in the first place. Naruto, to them, was never the good guy UNTIL he bent over for Hinata.

This is why society loves this double standard in that "there is no such thing as the friendzone." You are either the nice guy who gets stepped on or youre the kitten is selfishly takes on their own destiny...there is no inbetween. Even though people in this middle ground do exist, society and people refuse to acknowledge such a level. Society loves seeing things in black and white in a world full of shades of gray.
 

[Phantom_999]

Yeah it is a really funny thing. A nice person is nice, until they stand up for themselves. You are only nice if you let others walk all over you, so you are not expected to be nice, you are expected to be a martyr, a doormat

Edited by Phantom_999, 01 May 2018 - 01:59 AM.

[LuckyChi7]

You know the thing I find funny is when people say Neji's death in the war arc holds the same weight as Ace's death from One Piece in Marine Ford.. which obviously a hell to the no.  

 

 

 

 

 

Case in point #1  Neji's death in the war arc came out of nowhere, and didn't have any build up leading up to it. 

 

Case in point #3 We didn't see much interactions between Naruto and Neji as friends.So it feels extremely lackluster. 

 

Case in point #2  the reason behind Neji's death was so that Naruto and Hinata grew "close" a god damn pairing. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now let us look at Ace's Death from One Piece: 

 

 

 

 

 

Case in point #1  Unlike Neji,  the death of Ace actually had legit build up to it, and felt impactful. 

 

Case in point #2   Ace's death at Marineford was to protect his brother, and when it happened it held weight.  

 

Case in point #3:  Yes like Naruto it was the first time Luffy saw someone die before him, but the real difference is that these two had history, and he was traumatized witnessing the whole thing. 

Edited by LuckyChi7, 30 April 2018 - 11:04 PM.

[Phantom_999]

Well supposedly Neji's death was supposed to play Cupid for NH so by that logic, definitely not. It was no where near as emotionally impactful as Ace's death. Besides it was Kurama that snapped Naruto out of his depression, not Hinata and it was not like Neji was super super close to Naruto like a brother. His death was just a huge "spit in face" moment against Naruto's word on how he won't let ONE SINGLE comrade die in the war.

Edited by Phantom_999, 02 January 2019 - 09:28 PM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Well supposedly Negi's death was supposed to play Cupid for NH so by that logic, definitely not. It was not as emotionally impactful like Ace's death. Besides it Was Kurama that snapped Naruto out of his depression, not Hinata and it was not like Neji was super super close to Naruto like a brother. His death was just a huge "spit in face" moment against Naruto's word on how he won't let  ONE SINGLE comrade die in the war.

 

And Neji's death also had been him basically dying to "protect" Hinata juat as his dad died to protect Hiashi. Which is BS.

[jak123]

You know the thing I find funny is when people say Neji's death in the war arc holds the same weight as Ace's death from One Piece in Marine Ford.. which obviously a hell to the no.  

 

 

 

 

 

Case in point #1  Neji's death in the war arc came out of nowhere, and didn't have any build up leading up to it. 

 

Case in point #3 We didn't see much interactions between Naruto and Neji as friends.So it feels extremely lackluster. 

 

Case in point #2  the reason behind Neji's death was so that Naruto and Hinata grew "close" a god damn pairing. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now let us look at Ace's Death from One Piece: 

 

 

 

 

 

Case in point #1  Unlike Neji,  the death of Ace actually had legit build up to it, and felt impactful. 

 

Case in point #2   Ace's death at Marineford was to protect his brother, and when it happened it held weight.  

 

Case in point #3:  Yes like Naruto it was the first time Luffy saw someone die before him, but the real difference is that these two had history, and he was traumatized witnessing the whole thing. 

Ace's death scene was great.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Well supposedly Negi's death was supposed to play Cupid for NH so by that logic, definitely not. It was no where near as emotionally impactful as Ace's death. Besides it Was Kurama that snapped Naruto out of his depression, not Hinata and it was not like Neji was super super close to Naruto like a brother. His death was just a huge "spit in face" moment against Naruto's word on how he won't let ONE SINGLE comrade die in the war.

Yep, just like with Hinatatas (both the Chunin Exams and Pein Arc), Naruto's reaction had nothing to do with the (near) death of the specific individual (because he is never shown spending time with either of them), but rather that someone died (or severely injured / "died" in Hinatatas cases) in general without him being able to do anything about it. Basically, he cared MORE that his naive, tunnel vision ideology of "protecting EVERYONE" (pure arrogance) just had a gigantic hole torn into it than anything else; literally no different than his stupid hyperventilating moment with Ay's refusal to not kill Sasuke - it wasn't because of any "friendship" or "bond" with Sasuke that caused it, but rather that Ay didn't just instantly succumb to his TnJ attempt, expecting Ay to just "change" and that they could easily "understand" each other and all that crap, thus reality broke down Naruto's ideological doorway and gave him a beatdown, but rather than Naruto learning from such experiences (stemming all the way back to the end of part one against Sasuke) that reality will NOT just go the way he wants it to, he just tries to ignorantly pretend that such moments never happened, or at least that they didn't happen for reasons that contradict that naive ideology or what he wants to believe. Like, in his mind, it wasn't that Sasuke really wanted to leave simply for power, but rather it was only because Orochimaru tricked him, or the Curse Seal somehow brainwashed him, or any kind of excuse.

[Kasimir38]

I expected Sasuke to die...or Naruto... Neji was a surprise. When I found out that he died I thought that the only reason was because he would never approve of NH.

 

It still makes me sad because I have the feeling that he was chosen because he is not so important as Shikamaru and not so ..."unimportant" as Shino so yeah - someone semi - important no one had any relation to besides of Hinata and Lee, let's kill him of to make NH happen. Because otherwise, Naruto and Hinata would have ZERO context. They need some sort of connection so Neji it is. 

 

[griff142]

I expected Sasuke to die...or Naruto... Neji was a surprise. When I found out that he died I thought that the only reason was because he would never approve of NH.
 
It still makes me sad because I have the feeling that he was chosen because he is not so important as Shikamaru and not so ..."unimportant" as Shino so yeah - someone semi - important no one had any relation to besides of Hinata and Lee, let's kill him of to make NH happen. Because otherwise, Naruto and Hinata would have ZERO context. They need some sort of connection so Neji it is. 
 

I believe that was the sole reason why he was killed off, which makes me mad because he was a cool character to me but have him killed off so a pairing could happen turns me off to the whole situation of NH even more. Makes me dislike Hinata and her fans even more because she just saw her cousin sacrifice himself for her to live, but she was more worried about Naruto's hand than him. It portrays her as a lousy cousin to me.

[Derock]

No guys, that's not the real reason behind that. The REAL reason why Neji gotten the boot was someone worked in SP complained about Neji's character on the official Naruto blog, especially how he treated Hinata back in Part 1/filler (something like, "I didn't like how he attacked her boobs"). Gotten bad to the point that the person possibly told this to the writers and to Masashi's team for the manga as a "suggestion". 

 

This pissed off not only the regular Japanese fans but also NejiHina fans.

[Kagomaru]

No guys, that's not the real reason behind that. The REAL reason why Neji gotten the boot was someone worked in SP complained about Neji's character on the official Naruto blog, especially how he treated Hinata back in Part 1/filler (something like, "I didn't like how he attacked her boobs"). Gotten bad to the point that the person possibly told this to the writers and to Masashi's team for the manga as a "suggestion". 

 

This pissed off not only the regular Japanese fans but also NejiHina fans.

...God, I don't want to believe you. A part of me wants to reject what you've just stated and accuse you of lying because of how unbelievably stupid this sounds and I can't stand my faith in humanity taking another hit. But given how petty, pretentious, hypocritical and self-entitled SP is with the Naruto material, I know you're telling the truth.  And it only reinforces what Hayao Miyazaki has said about how anti-social otaku are steadily ruining the anime industry with their hormonal garbage and lack of social understanding. 

 

Seriously, who was this idiot?  Do we have a name for this kitten that suggested Neji's death?

Edited by Kagomaru, 01 May 2018 - 07:17 PM.

[jak123]

...God, I don't want to believe you. A part of me wants to reject what you've just stated and accuse you of lying because of how unbelievably stupid this sounds and I can't stand my faith in humanity taking another hit. But given how petty, pretentious, hypocritical and self-entitled SP is with the Naruto material, I know you're telling the truth.  And it only reinforces what Hayao Miyazaki has said about how anti-social otaku are steadily ruining the anime industry with their hormonal garbage and lack of social understanding. 

 

Seriously, who was this idiot?  Do we have a name for this kitten that suggested Neji's death?

Yeah, I think "shipping" is one of the worst things to happen to anime, hell fandoms in general. I don't like NaruSaku because they are my "ship", I like them because they make sense to the story that I read for 15 years. Any sort of competent writer would have had Sakura move on from her childish crush and fall for someone who has always been there for her. With most "shippers" you can't have any sort of discussion. I was reading this one webtoon and the comments were riddled with shipping comments and when I pointed out something about one of those characters being a hypocrite, I got downvoted to hell. 

[Derock]

...God, I don't want to believe you. A part of me wants to reject what you've just stated and accuse you of lying because of how unbelievably stupid this sounds and I can't stand my faith in humanity taking another hit. But given how petty, pretentious, hypocritical and self-entitled SP is with the Naruto material, I know you're telling the truth.  And it only reinforces what Hayao Miyazaki has said about how anti-social otaku are steadily ruining the anime industry with their hormonal garbage and lack of social understanding. 

 

Seriously, who was this idiot?  Do we have a name for this kitten that suggested Neji's death?

 

Someone posted the link when this BS happened after The Last and the manga ending, about a few months later. There were receipts, I saw it and was appalled. I don't where though as it was 3 years ago.  But the pro-enders cast that aside like it was just nothing. You may need to look at the NejiHina and/or Neji blogs on tumblr because that's the source.

 

Forgot to mention: Neji fans were beyond pissed when they saw that.

[jak123]

 

Someone posted the link when this BS happened after The Last and the manga ending, about a few months later. There were receipts, I saw it and was appalled. I don't where though as it was 3 years ago.  But the pro-enders cast that aside like it was just nothing. You may need to look at the NejiHina and/or Neji blogs on tumblr because that's the source.

 

Forgot to mention: Neji fans were beyond pissed when they saw that.

People saw NejiHina as a thing? I personally didn't. If he had survived, he probably would have ended up with TenTen. Though you could have had him and Hinata working together to run the Hyuuga Clan.

[Yyubie]

Neji have to be sparring partner for Hinata every day , but hes not allowed to fight back or hit Hinata , he must hold back and became a punching bag for Hinata because of her kitten daddy is from head family and Neji is from slave family. Can you imagine that ? if you were in Neji's shoes ... plus Neji's dad have to be sacrifice to become a fake scapegoat to protect the head family.

 

And then this , i think a lot of people already said that Neji is a prodigy genius and he knows this. So i don't understand what the difference if Naruto said that hes a genius ? why Naruto words have so much power compare to other who already said hes a genius ? (Oh yeah i forgot hes a god of Talk no Jutsu). Naruto also promise that he will free / change the hyuga once he become hokage. If i were Neji i can't die no matter what until i see him fulfill his promise. And voila ... he didn't fulfill his promise , i read from tumblr that naruto really haven't change the hyuga corrupt system.

 

In my opinion Neji has zero reason to give his life to protect Naruto and Hinata based on those 2 reason. Kishimoto is not fit to be an author because he can be persuade/coerce by pressure by his editor , money , and popularity. He should be an artist though because his art is good.

[Phantom_999]

No guys, that's not the real reason behind that. The REAL reason why Neji gotten the boot was someone worked in SP complained about Neji's character on the official Naruto blog, especially how he treated Hinata back in Part 1/filler (something like, "I didn't like how he attacked her boobs"). Gotten bad to the point that the person possibly told this to the writers and to Masashi's team for the manga as a "suggestion". 
 
This pissed off not only the regular Japanese fans but also NejiHina fans.

 
"Attacked her boobs?" Well, who's to say that not the reason WHY they got so much BIGGER? So he should be THANKING Neji. But all jokes aside that is one of many reasons I hope Boruto, or rather should I say "BRATO" explodes from with in it's own kittening franchise and is tossed in a hole leading right to the core of the earth and burns into oblivion. Honestly these d$%& for brains scum bags should NEVER have had their fapping wet dreams be permitted to come true

Edited by Phantom_999, 02 May 2018 - 05:13 AM.

[RulesofNature]

 

Someone posted the link when this BS happened after The Last and the manga ending, about a few months later. There were receipts, I saw it and was appalled. I don't where though as it was 3 years ago.  But the pro-enders cast that aside like it was just nothing. You may need to look at the NejiHina and/or Neji blogs on tumblr because that's the source.

 

Forgot to mention: Neji fans were beyond pissed when they saw that.

It just goes to show just how much SP interfered with the writing, and the lengths they would go to for their Hinata-sama. They derailed so many characters, butchered the characterization of others, push questionable morals, make the hero a joke and a scumbag who accomplished nothing, kill other characters, all to make Hinata the heroine, The fact there are so many fans calling this out says enough.