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[rocci]

How can they think Naruto see sakura as sister when he obliviously love her. I mean it's a love triangle. It's like denying Sakuragi and guts feeling by telling it just sibling love.

I know Some people like to see their relationship like that. But Naruto doesn't see sakura as sister. She's his love interest. Unless Naruto doesn't love sakura since the beginning or Kishi make Naruto stop loving sakura 200 chapters before the ending.

Edited by rocci, 27 April 2018 - 04:17 AM.

[Kasimir38]

Does anyone notice the similarity to Hermione and Harry? I know, many people think Hermione and Ron are soulmates, but I think she always liked Harry more. Still, the fandom thinks they are just "like siblings" and it's good that they didn't end up together. But Ron actually doesn't deserve Hermione, I think. 

[rocci]

Does anyone notice the similarity to Hermione and Harry? I know, many people think Hermione and Ron are soulmates, but I think she always liked Harry more. Still, the fandom thinks they are just "like siblings" and it's good that they didn't end up together. But Ron actually doesn't deserve Hermione, I think. 

The problem with Harry and Hermione is that Harry doesn't love Hermione and vice Versa. Thus it's kinda justify. While i agree that they have great chemistry. If only they have romantic Arrow.

I always think that Ron is the Harry Potter sakura. Even though he doesn't become fandom punching bag.

That's why Naruto can't be called as sibling love because Naruto has romantic feeling to sakura.

[Kasimir38]

While they are similiar to it, they are not the same. After all, JK planned Romione from the very beginning and she developed it properly. Even though she also "kind of" developed Harmony and there were a few scenes in which I thought they are a better couple. If it wasn't for Ron, Harry and Hermione would have ended up together. I don't think you can call that "siblings" but Romione and HarryxGinny are the OTP of the fandom and they don't like anyone mentioning Harmony. 

Also, Harry married Ginny, and Ginny is a Hinata for me: Sidecharacter, no chemistry, had a crush on him (my opinion)

Hermione married Ron, but Ron didn't treat her good all the time. chrm. Would be an understatement for Sasuke lol.

In the end, I didn't feel bad about Harry Potter because no one was surprised by the couples and they are all still friends. I just feel like "they are siblings" or "I love that someone didn't put the main characters together" are stupid arguments against the ship.

[Phantom_999]

How can they think Naruto see sakura as sister when he obliviously love her. I mean it's a love triangle. It's like denying Sakuragi and guts feeling by telling it just sibling love.

I know Some people like to see their relationship like that. But Naruto doesn't see sakura as sister. She's his love interest. Unless Naruto doesn't love sakura since the beginning or Kishi make Naruto stop loving sakura 200 chapters before the ending.

 

Because for those NaruHina Fanatic Radicals, to accept that Naruto loves Sakura and that Sakura mostly likely loves Naruto is to give themselves a heart attack and broken tears  

Edited by Phantom_999, 27 April 2018 - 06:49 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

Does anyone notice the similarity to Hermione and Harry? I know, many people think Hermione and Ron are soulmates, but I think she always liked Harry more. Still, the fandom thinks they are just "like siblings" and it's good that they didn't end up together. But Ron actually doesn't deserve Hermione, I think. 

Well, JK Rowling did admit that Harry and Hermione probably would have made a better couple than Ron and Hermione seeing how, even in her own canon, she admits that Ron and Hermione went through marriage councelling.

Funny how, Kishimoto or Ikemoto show NH and SS going through massive amounts of turmoil, but never admitting that maybe NH and SS need marriage councelling, but JK Rowling actually shows their couples being good people to each other and such only to say that at least one of them needs councelling.

[griff142]

Well, JK Rowling did admit that Harry and Hermione probably would have made a better couple than Ron and Hermione seeing how, even in her own canon, she admits that Ron and Hermione went through marriage councelling.
Funny how, Kishimoto or Ikemoto show NH and SS going through massive amounts of turmoil, but never admitting that maybe NH and SS need marriage councelling, but JK Rowling actually shows their couples being good people to each other and such only to say that at least one of them needs councelling.

Obviously both couples need it but if this was real life some things would be said that the fandom wouldn't like. Everybody was forced into these pairings so they would vent out their frustrations that we all see in the manga. Sakura wouldn't faint when Sasuke comes back but instead beat him up for being gone so long. Honestly she would have left a long time ago if it wasn't for the poor writing. Sasuke I could easily cheating on Sakura for Karin since he is never home. Naruto seems the most miserable since he has become a workaholic. The only person I see not wanting to change in the fandom's eyes is Hinata because she would desperate to keep Naruto even though she never deserved him from the beginning.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Obviously both couples need it but if this was real life some things would be said that the fandom wouldn't like. Everybody was forced into these pairings so they would vent out their frustrations that we all see in the manga. Sakura wouldn't faint when Sasuke comes back but instead beat him up for being gone so long. Honestly she would have left a long time ago if it wasn't for the poor writing. Sasuke I could easily cheating on Sakura for Karin since he is never home. Naruto seems the most miserable since he has become a workaholic. The only person I see not wanting to change in the fandom's eyes is Hinata because she would desperate to keep Naruto even though she never deserved him from the beginning.

 

Not to mention Naruto drinks a lot and he hardly sees the kids telling you he blames them for missing out on his dream mentally wise, and how he doesn't seem happy at all around Hinata. That isn't realism. It's trying to justify the fact you screwed your fandom for others' goals rather than your own, but you ain't happy in the least, but you can't say anything, or else they will eviscerate you.

[DrK]

Well, if everyone married the first person who they failed to notice was attracted to them, birth rates would be a lot higher. Any reasonably good looking person would have gotten married before hitting their 20s. The problem is that I don't see why I would feel guilty for having a lack of social awareness. It doesn't even make sense to feel guilty about that. It makes more sense that you'd feel bad for yourself for being so dense.

Edited by DrK, 27 April 2018 - 03:49 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

Well, if everyone married the first person who they failed to notice was attracted to them, birth rates would be a lot higher. Any reasonably good looking person would have gotten married before hitting their 20s. The problem is that I don't see why I would feel guilty for having a lack of social awareness. It doesn't even make sense to feel guilty about that. It makes more sense that you'd feel bad for yourself for being so dense.

Feeling bad and only being with them out of guilt is two different things and I think that is the difference here.

We didn't want NaruSaku together because we wanted Sakura to feel bad about not noticing Naruto. We wanted them together because they weren't miserable around each other and actually were better for it. Isn't that what makes a a great relationship?

This is what I don't understand:
When it comes to SS especially, they were miserable. Sasuke was annoyed by her and Sakura never truly got what she wanted from him. He still doesn't and somehow Sakura keeps expecting this to happen and is so surprised when he doesn't. Really? You mean to tell me that Sasuke not giving you any attention is surprising? He never gave you any attention at all and if he did was only because you kept standing in his way forcing him to pay attention to you. He didn't pay attention to her for any other reason than that. I don't understand why the pro-enders don't see this and why they still think SS is considered a "good relationship."

Honestly, ask a pro-ender this question especially the girls:
What constitutes a good and loving relationship to them?
If you were a girl attracted to a certain guy and he ignored you, called you useless, tell you he doesn't care if you live or die and are irrelevant to the cause....do you really want to be with them? Of course, they would probably say this isn't the case with Sasuke or some other excuse, but they probably wouldn't.
Honestly, I want them to be in a relationship where someone treats them like garbage and then have someone else tell them. "They actually love you they just have a hard time expressing it" and see how long it takes to realize that that is a garbage tier explanation. I don't want them to go through such a relationship where the guy threatens her life, but a guy who is so apathetic towards them that to them they are just a means to an end and see how far it goes or how long the relationship lasts. She could threaten to break up with him and he would be like "Okay. You're usefulness to me is gone anyway." and just wait. Wait how long til he gets called a scumbag.

I really want to do a social experiement with people on this one.
 

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Feeling bad and only being with them out of guilt is two different things and I think that is the difference here.

We didn't want NaruSaku together because we wanted Sakura to feel bad about not noticing Naruto. We wanted them together because they weren't miserable around each other and actually were better for it. Isn't that what makes a a great relationship?

This is what I don't understand:
When it comes to SS especially, they were miserable. Sasuke was annoyed by her and Sakura never truly got what she wanted from him. He still doesn't and somehow Sakura keeps expecting this to happen and is so surprised when he doesn't. Really? You mean to tell me that Sasuke not giving you any attention is surprising? He never gave you any attention at all and if he did was only because you kept standing in his way forcing him to pay attention to you. He didn't pay attention to her for any other reason than that. I don't understand why the pro-enders don't see this and why they still think SS is considered a "good relationship."

Honestly, ask a pro-ender this question especially the girls:
What constitutes a good and loving relationship to them?
If you were a girl attracted to a certain guy and he ignored you, called you useless, tell you he doesn't care if you live or die and are irrelevant to the cause....do you really want to be with them? Of course, they would probably say this isn't the case with Sasuke or some other excuse, but they probably wouldn't.
Honestly, I want them to be in a relationship where someone treats them like garbage and then have someone else tell them. "They actually love you they just have a hard time expressing it" and see how long it takes to realize that that is a garbage tier explanation. I don't want them to go through such a relationship where the guy threatens her life, but a guy who is so apathetic towards them that to them they are just a means to an end and see how far it goes or how long the relationship lasts. She could threaten to break up with him and he would be like "Okay. You're usefulness to me is gone anyway." and just wait. Wait how long til he gets called a scumbag.

I really want to do a social experiement with people on this one.
 

I say the same thing when it comes to NH - I'm sure a lot of guys at first might not mind a girl like Hinatatas around them - stalking them, being eternally loyal, completely submissive, etc. because it would make them feel "special", but any logical person knows that a lot of guys would actually be put off by Hinatatas very quickly from the stalking alone, think her creepy, and want to get away from her as soon as possible, and even those that do somehow tolerate it and end up in a relationship with her would either quickly grow very bored of her due to her complete lack of personality and/or use her a few times for "fun" solely because of her body, and want to get away as quickly as possible. Only a very tiny percentage of guys would have a "good relationship" with someone like Hinatatas and that percentage would be those at the very bottom of the barrel who will take virtually anything they can get.

[DrK]

Feeling bad and only being with them out of guilt is two different things and I think that is the difference here.

Ok, but he shouldn't have felt bad for Hinata at all. It's not his fault he's socially inept. He had no friends when he was growing up. Because Hinata just stood and watched him from far away instead of spending time with him. So Hinata benefits from a failing in Naruto which she helped to cause.

[winter-serenade]

Yes.
50 to 60% of Sasuke character is based on rukawa character. I mean rukawa is pretty much one of the best rival character. His character is antitesis to Sakuragi character.
I believe rukawa character shape up what i called dark brooding rival character. Basically the Lancer.

I thought Sasuke was based off of Hiei from Yu Yu Hakusho?

I say the same thing when it comes to NH - I'm sure a lot of guys at first might not mind a girl like Hinatatas around them - stalking them, being eternally loyal, completely submissive, etc. because it would make them feel "special", but any logical person knows that a lot of guys would actually be put off by Hinatatas very quickly from the stalking alone, think her creepy, and want to get away from her as soon as possible, and even those that do somehow tolerate it and end up in a relationship with her would either quickly grow very bored of her due to her complete lack of personality and/or use her a few times for "fun" solely because of her body, and want to get away as quickly as possible. Only a very tiny percentage of guys would have a "good relationship" with someone like Hinatatas and that percentage would be those at the very bottom of the barrel who will take virtually anything they can get.

This is one of my problems with NaruHina. How submissive Hinata is. I dont think that Narutos loud, boisterous personality would work at all with her personality. Eternal loyalty is one thing, I suppose, but being as submissive as she is doesnt fit at all.

Naruto seems like the type of person who would enjoy playful banter like with Sasuke or Sakura. I dont think Hinata would offer that type of communication at all. Yes, Naruto-kun. No, Naruto-kun. Thats probably how conversations go down, with some small talk and some How was your day? type conversations. Its actually a bit boring. Also, I dont even know why they show her being angry at Boruto. It seemed OOC from the Hinata Ive seen for 700 chapters.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

This is one of my problems with NaruHina. How submissive Hinata is. I dont think that Narutos loud, boisterous personality would work at all with her personality. Eternal loyalty is one thing, I suppose, but being as submissive as she is doesnt fit at all.

Naruto seems like the type of person who would enjoy playful banter like with Sasuke or Sakura. I dont think Hinata would offer that type of communication at all. Yes, Naruto-kun. No, Naruto-kun. Thats probably how conversations go down, with some small talk and some How was your day? type conversations. Its actually a bit boring. Also, I dont even know why they show her being angry at Boruto. It seemed OOC from the Hinata Ive seen for 700 chapters.

 

I know what you mean, Winter, and it's true without a doubt. Hinata's biggest problem is her lack of confidence and the fact she doesn't really know ANYTHING about Naruto or what he's gone through, or what to do with herself when he isn't around. It just shows how she wasn't meant to become something more, but Kishi basically threw that into the grater because of his editors and fan pressure and Studio Pierrot rather than trusting his own story, which shows how pathetic this all is.

Edited by Bryon_Konoha_Ninja, 28 April 2018 - 01:11 AM.

[griff142]

I know what you mean, Winter, and it's true without a doubt. Hinata's biggest problem is her lack of confidence and the fact she doesn't really know ANYTHING about Naruto or what he's gone through, or what to do with herself when he isn't around. It just shows how she wasn't meant to become something more, but Kishi basically threw that into the grater because of his editors and fan pressure and Studio Pierrot rather than trusting his own story, which shows how pathetic this all is.

Yeah once the main editor retired, it felt like SP got the green light to change the story. I wouldn't be surprised all the editors thay came after were SP "approved". That is why Kishi went through a few editors until he decided to give in.

You can say opposites attract but not in this case. Boruto is a perfect example because it is showing Naruto not really caring about his family life and no one is keeping in line. He needed someone who really KNEW HIM and have enough of a strong personality to match Naruto's to scold him like a good wife would when her husband is not focused on the right priorities.

[rocci]

I thought Sasuke was based off of Hiei from Yu Yu Hakusho?

Sasuke is based on many thing, but the blue print of his character is rukawa.

He has bezita arogance and pride, hiei flame, kurapika vengeance and eye power, killua thunder, Griffith Eagle motive, and many more.

[Phantom_999]

I thought Sasuke was based off of Hiei from Yu Yu Hakusho?

This is one of my problems with NaruHina. How submissive Hinata is. I dont think that Narutos loud, boisterous personality would work at all with her personality. Eternal loyalty is one thing, I suppose, but being as submissive as she is doesnt fit at all.

Naruto seems like the type of person who would enjoy playful banter like with Sasuke or Sakura. I dont think Hinata would offer that type of communication at all. Yes, Naruto-kun. No, Naruto-kun. Thats probably how conversations go down, with some small talk and some How was your day? type conversations. Its actually a bit boring. Also, I dont even know why they show her being angry at Boruto. It seemed OOC from the Hinata I've seen for 700 chapters.

 

AND they don't interact enough to even give you an idea of how their relationship would work out

[LuckyChi7]

Boruto Volume 5's Cover came out: 

 

[jak123]

Boruto Volume 5's Cover came out: 

 

I've always found it interesting when looking at Boruto and Sarada. They look absolutely NOTHING like their mothers so it makes you wonder who was in mind for their mothers during their conception. Especially Sarada who looks like the love child of Sasuke and Karin.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

I thought Sasuke was based off of Hiei from Yu Yu Hakusho?

This is one of my problems with NaruHina. How submissive Hinata is. I dont think that Narutos loud, boisterous personality would work at all with her personality. Eternal loyalty is one thing, I suppose, but being as submissive as she is doesnt fit at all.

Naruto seems like the type of person who would enjoy playful banter like with Sasuke or Sakura. I dont think Hinata would offer that type of communication at all. Yes, Naruto-kun. No, Naruto-kun. Thats probably how conversations go down, with some small talk and some How was your day? type conversations. Its actually a bit boring. Also, I dont even know why they show her being angry at Boruto. It seemed OOC from the Hinata Ive seen for 700 chapters.

It's simply another Sakura trait that they stole from her and are trying to forcibly graft onto Hinatatas. And it's also further unbelievable because we were already shown how Hinatatas acts when Boruto acts out in the manga; just sulking and pouting after Boruto yells and goes stomping out the door without a care.

 

Boruto Volume 5's Cover came out: 

 

Wow, how "edgy".