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#4861 Namikaze Clan

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 12:41 AM

Safe to assume we will eventually get a novel focusing on how Ichihime happened from Ichigo's part?

Should at least be better than The Last

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 01:03 AM

Safe to assume we will eventually get a novel focusing on how Ichihime happened from Ichigo's part?

Should at least be better than The Last

I guess that's a plus.

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 01:20 AM

Safe to assume we will eventually get a novel focusing on how Ichihime happened from Ichigo's part?

Should at least be better than The Last

 

It can't be worse, that's for sure. At least Ichigo is neutral. Same couldn't be said about Naruto.


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Posted 05 November 2016 - 01:26 AM

At this point, whatever series don't conclude right for pairings in manga and gets a novel to make it "balance", I'll just consider them poor man job. Tired of letting outside of work do it. Even Toriyama conclude and he doesn't even do romance.

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 06:00 AM

At this point, whatever series don't conclude right for pairings in manga and gets a novel to make it "balance", I'll just consider them poor man job. Tired of letting outside of work do it. Even Toriyama conclude and he doesn't even do romance.

Thing is, DBZ was a time no one cared and it was implied he was gonna end up with ChiChi and not Bulma, mostly due to age

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 11:44 AM

Thing is, DBZ was a time no one cared and it was implied he was gonna end up with ChiChi and not Bulma, mostly due to age

Well in terms of fan base, I get it, but I got to see its progress and conclusion. Naruto and Bleach, write a fanfic. That's the conclusion.

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 12:20 PM

Anyway my point is Bleach is STILL a god level masterpiece comapred to Naruto because well, it was the ending that was down right horrible. Everything else was either love it or hate it but at least the the themes were not compromised again as I've said.  We just got a BS ending that didn't didn't justify or feel like a resolution at all, nor give focus on other characters or explore remaining plot holes but we also don't see abusive, dysfunction families do we? Ichigo is not punching Kazui on topof the head, of Rukia raisng Sachika alone. Trolololololol :zaru:


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Posted 05 November 2016 - 02:03 PM

At this point, whatever series don't conclude right for pairings in manga and gets a novel to make it "balance", I'll just consider them poor man job. Tired of letting outside of work do it. Even Toriyama conclude and he doesn't even do romance.

Same here as you said. Whatever series don't conclude right for pairings in manga and gets a novel to make it "balance", it would be a poor writing of the manga or reasons happened against the will of the mangaka like Naruto.



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Posted 05 November 2016 - 03:12 PM

Same here as you said. Whatever series don't conclude right for pairings in manga and gets a novel to make it "balance", it would be a poor writing of the manga or reasons happened against the will of the mangaka like Naruto.

Agreed. I know these series aren't romance and I accept that. It's just a simple storytelling alas straight forward, no love triangle, and obvious from the get go, can do the job and if it happens, cool. I guess you can say Rukia and Renji is like that, but I think the fans are legitimately upset about it, so it's best to focus elsewhere. You can't change their mind like that. You shouldn't tempered love triangle or even have a thought of it.

 

Bleach didn't have one but insist it did, which never got cleared out. So in other words, people were lost on the direction of these bonds. Well, here we are now. Naruto went random with its side characters. Main characters fell flat with one that is unbelievably hard to accept after that journey.

 

Bleach is "ok" and I am being generous. I guess I'm just sick of novels being used to justify, instead of more important piece, especially with tons of plot holes. It's the dish that I didn't ask but you insist to eat it because it's a last minute replacement; however, for once, I would like to eat something I actually requested.



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Posted 05 November 2016 - 03:28 PM

The only solution I see for now is that when the mangakas feel pressured, orders and suggestions against their will, tempering with characters, etc, they shouldn't let that take over them and / or go with it. Be it editors or fans or whoever they are.

 

It's the only way to get the job done 100 % from one perspective.


Edited by T XD, 05 November 2016 - 03:30 PM.


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Posted 05 November 2016 - 03:42 PM

Any interviews.


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#4872 Namikaze Clan

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 08:04 PM

Any interviews.


Nope. He's been silent since it ended two months ago

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 08:11 PM

Nope. He's been silent since it ended two months ago

Now we know who is the smarter mangaka out of the double K.

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 09:47 PM

Well ok then...

From what I heard, in Jump Police Special, Bleach Editor said, "In Kubo's mind, Orihime is the heroine as Rukia is a friend of Ichigo." Well then, I guess I have to erase Rukia from heroine list, which now I can definitively claim that this series' heroine is poor.

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 10:40 PM

Well ok then...

From what I heard, in Jump Police Special, Bleach Editor said, "In Kubo's mind, Orihime is the heroine as Rukia is a friend of Ichigo." Well then, I guess I have to erase Rukia from heroine list, which now I can definitively claim that this series' heroine is poor.

If that's true then Kubo is like Studio Pierrot :fu:



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Posted 06 November 2016 - 12:37 AM

Well ok then...

From what I heard, in Jump Police Special, Bleach Editor said, "In Kubo's mind, Orihime is the heroine as Rukia is a friend of Ichigo." Well then, I guess I have to erase Rukia from heroine list, which now I can definitively claim that this series' heroine is poor.

 

Hmm, should we trust that? :hm:


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#4877 Namikaze Clan

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 03:35 AM

 
Hmm, should we trust that? :hm:


It supposedly came from the editor's mouth not Kubo's so......no

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 07:34 AM

I think that's kinda explain on why orihime is the one who represent heroine in jump cover and not rukia.

Eventhough imo bleach has two heroine (rukia & orihime).

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 01:42 PM

It supposedly came from the editor's mouth not Kubo's so......no

 

Well WSJ editors think Boobs make the heroine anyway. trololololololololololol :lmao:  :zaru:


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#4880 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 02:35 PM

I think that's kinda explain on why orihime is the one who represent heroine in jump cover and not rukia.

Eventhough imo bleach has two heroine (rukia & orihime).

It does. It also explained on why I was thinking otherwise about heroine in this series. It was helped by Rukia, but if we go into that account, then okay, weak heroine overall confirmed.




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