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[merryGOflava]

Don't want to sound Negative, but One Piece earned 11 million and it still stake a while before it was subbed.

>:o well i thought naruto was more popular in america.

not that one piece isnt the most popular manga in japan... XD

[ciardha]

Don't want to sound Negative, but One Piece earned 11 million and it still stake a while before it was subbed.

Who cares, I don't. Has nothing to do with Naruto.

Read the article- Road to Ninja's first weekend earnings blew away the earnings of the last 4 Shippuden movies first weekends, the closest one was 3- which was the only other one to have any significant Naruto and Sakura interaction. That's the point that should jump out at you as a member of this forum as very happy news. In Japan, a Naruto and Sakura plotline focus draws a movie audience more than anything else for a Naruto movie in the past 4 years! Road to Ninja made almost twice as much as Will of Fire (movie 3, the last Shippuden movie to have any significant Naruto and Sakura interactions) in it's first weekend. It was #3 in Japan and #10 worldwide! and that was with it being only released in Japan. That's fantastic folks! Kishimoto must be over the moon! It's a clear message to Studio Pierrot too, now let's see if they'll get it. More Naruto and Sakura focus! And hey, with those numbers maybe Kishimoto will feel that maybe readers do want to see Sakura's parents in the manga after all.

[Don-kun]

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What I meant is that they may make a lot of money, but it will still be subbed next year. Hope I'm wrong.

Another note. I notice a comment saying that the movie is not canon but they are happy that Kishi decided to make Sakura and Sasuke interact in a positive way, something that I find good for SS since is being quite some time they haven't had an interaction. Now is this SS being hypocric or just the regular way of brushing off what I don't like but keeping a focus on the parts I liked?

Edited by NS means logic, 01 August 2012 - 05:17 AM.

[Codus N]

How is it as negative as SS when Naruto and Sakura are only keeping things from one another in order to protect the other? Granted its definitely a flaw the pairing has, but it's not nearly as bad as murder attempts, or railroading over the others emotions for selfish purposes).

NaruSaku also has much more positivity than Sasuke and Sakura's relationship ever had, with mutual consistent attempts to be emotionally supportive, selfless care for each other and just general companionship. The positives of the relationship outweighs the negatives IMO.

Yes, but what I meant was the fact that their relationship is still negative, is them keeping secrets from each other. That's not a very healthy relationship either. Besides, everyone here says that NS is about mutuality and trusting each other. How can that exist when they're still keeping secrets from each other?? although they're doing it for the other's sake, but this secrets stuff does a lot more harm than good.

If you ask me, the negativity lies in their emotions, not physically like SS is.

[TouKen4Life3g]

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What I meant is that they may make a lot of money, but it will still be subbed next year. Hope I'm wrong.

Another note. I notice a comment saying that the movie is not canon but they are happy that Kishi decided to make Sakura and Sasuke interact in a positive way, something that I find good for SS since is being quite some time they haven't had an interaction. Now is this SS being hypocric or just the regular way of brushing off what I don't like but keeping a focus on the parts I liked?

It's rather sad. This is not a bashing post, just hear me out. Before the spoilers were released, I always thought the development for SS would be like this: They eat ramen, Sakura notices that Sasuke is hitting on her, she likes it but it's fake, and the final confrontation will be the balcony scene where she would say, "I have to go. Sorry." Then, Sasuke will say his line, "After all, I will always be your side," and she will be happy. Honestly, that was in my mind for a while.

After reading the spoilers, I couldn't believe my eyes. Perhaps it could have been SS moment in the balcony scene, BUT, and it's a huge BUT, the later scene completely negate the previous scene. What's worse is that Sakura actually acknowledge that her feelings doesn't matter for Sasuke at all, and that's all; there is no redeeming part to it. Hell, I'm surprised that she was ready to apologize for her remark on Sasuke understanding her. There wasn't any upside. None. Not even NH got this treatment. Bottom line, that really shocked me that Kishi, out of all people, wrote this in the movie to make it look worse than ever. That's why I call it a troll, especially how much it was advertised. It's as if he was saying, "Enjoy it because it will be the last time you see me doing this."

Now back to the movie. That's a great start, especially going against The Dark Knight Rises (awesome movie). I wonder how much people see the whole manga definitely. Back to blogger, he/she has changed his view on couple. Yes, I understand the movie may or may not be canon, but you got to admit, knowing Kishi is behind this makes you want to feel much happier.

[Toasty Warrior]

I'm glad to see the movie did well in Japan, and like I've said, it's too bad we have to wait until next year before it's subbed, but it will definitely be worth the wait.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Yes, but what I meant was the fact that their relationship is still negative, is them keeping secrets from each other. That's not a very healthy relationship either. Besides, everyone here says that NS is about mutuality and trusting each other. How can that exist when they're still keeping secrets from each other?? although they're doing it for the other's sake, but this secrets stuff does a lot more harm than good.

If you ask me, the negativity lies in their emotions, not physically like SS is.

Secrets?
wich secrets?
naruto cant tell sakura about uchiha's destiny because of obvious reasons itachi sacrificed his life to protect konoha and the uchiha's prestige so there's nothing wrong with this.

[Codus N]

That's the point. Even if it was an important secret that should be taken to the grave, but the problem is, it's doing a lot of harm for their relationship. Just like how Sakura was hiding the fact that she was trying to kill Sasuke, Naruto is hiding the fact that Itachi was doing it under orders & Sasuke is affected by that. this eventually led to a conflict (well, not outright, but perhaps tension is more likely). If they're going to pursue a relationship, they should be more open with each other.

Naruto sees the Uchiha massacre and Itachi's promise as another burden. Itachi himself told him to share his burden with his friends because eventually, he'll crack under the pressure. It's also a foreshadowing of their relationship because Itachi also specifically mentioned MinaKushi about sharing burdens. This is the next step they have to take, otherwise, there won't be a relationship at all. In other words, Naruto needs to say "screw the promise!!"

Edited by Codus N, 01 August 2012 - 09:53 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

That's the point. Even if it was an important secret that should be taken to the grave, but the problem is, it's doing a lot of harm for their relationship. Just like how Sakura was hiding the fact that she was trying to kill Sasuke, Naruto is hiding the fact that Itachi was doing it under orders & Sasuke is affected by that. this eventually led to a conflict (well, not outright, but perhaps tension is more likely). If they're going to pursue a relationship, they should be more open with each other.

Naruto sees the Uchiha massacre and Itachi's promise as another burden. Itachi himself told him to share his burden with his friends because eventually, he'll crack under the pressure. It's also a foreshadowing of their relationship because Itachi also specifically mentioned MinaKushi about sharing burdens. This is the next step they have to take, otherwise, there won't be a relationship at all. In other words, Naruto needs to say "screw the promise!!"

i disagree at most this secret it's not a burden, it's just a request from someome who give up everything to protect the village he loves, sakura nd the others does nto need to knows this because it's not relevant for them.

[Codus N]

Yes it is. Because if he doesn't share this with her, she won't be able to understand what he's thinking. We all want them to get together, but to do that they need an understanding. Like I've said, this is a big hurdle they need to clear before making it official. No more secrets, no more going behind each others' back, nothing. Just the pure, honest to goodness truth.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Yes it is. Because if he doesn't share this with her, she won't be able to understand what he's thinking. We all want them to get together, but to do that they need an understanding. Like I've said, this is a big hurdle they need to clear before making it official. No more secrets, no more going behind each others' back, nothing. Just the pure, honest to goodness truth.

Understand what?
justify why sasuke is going to destroy kononha this does not justify what he's doing.
Sakura already does not understand naruto or sasuke because she have parents and they not, this is related to naruto itself that why only naruto kakashi and yamato knows this.

[Codus N]

Understanding what he's thinking. By sharing more burden together, they can come close to understanding each other.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Understanding what he's thinking. By sharing more burden together, they can come close to understanding each other.

Sorry but no, this is not the type of burden to share and understand each other, to sakura truly understand naruto she would have to lose someome precious to her like tsunade, just watch the movie she understand naruto because when she was in AU's world she had no parents.

[Paptala]

Yes, but what I meant was the fact that their relationship is still negative, is them keeping secrets from each other. That's not a very healthy relationship either. Besides, everyone here says that NS is about mutuality and trusting each other. How can that exist when they're still keeping secrets from each other?? although they're doing it for the other's sake, but this secrets stuff does a lot more harm than good.

If you ask me, the negativity lies in their emotions, not physically like SS is.

Oh I agree it's a negative point to their relationship and one that needs to be resolved (hopefully soon) in order for thei relationship to progress further (or at least it should at any rate). Probably my number one desire for Naruto and Sakura at this point, as I've reiterated time and again in posts here and elsewhere is for Naruto and Sakura to have a long heart to heart conversation no holds bared completly honest with one another.

That being said, my point was that NaruSaku is not as negative as SasuSaku - which is negative physically and emotionally (one needs to look no further than Sakura's confession to Sasuke - "you never talk to me; you always just hated me"). Not to say he actually hated her, but his treatment of her up to that point made her believe that.

Edited by Paptala, 01 August 2012 - 12:53 PM.

[Codus N]

Ah, I see. I understand, but I still stand by my opinion that it's just as negative. Of course, this is a matter of differing opinions. The way I see it, being negative emotionally is just as bad as both (physically and emotionally).

BTW, love your sig.

Edited by Codus N, 01 August 2012 - 02:35 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hello, everyone.

A start of a new day and a new month (though some of you has already begun). Well seems like nothing this week for the movie. Nothing but great success in the box office. Seems like it's the highest Naruto movie gross yet. Good job to them, especially Kishi. I guess it pays off after all.

Which brings me to this. I forgot to say it a long time ago, but now I can say it: I told you so. I told you that trailer will not show you "everything." Remember movie 3? Yeah, same applies to this one. Actually, it has more surprises than movie 3, let alone opposite of what to expect. It's always good to wait, and it definitely pays off. That said it begs an answer to this question: Why didn't they advertised Sakura being involved in the movie. Clearly from the spoiler, she does much more than background character or cheerleader. In fact, she's in the final battle. I wonder why, studio. Ironic, because you would assume they will push their relationship into ads, since they sure pushing them the most when it comes to pairing fanservice. Oh well.

[Deej]

That said it begs an answer to this question: Why didn't they advertised Sakura being involved in the movie. Clearly from the spoiler, she does much more than background character or cheerleader. In fact, she's in the final battle. I wonder why, studio. Ironic, because you would assume they will push their relationship into ads, since they sure pushing them the most when it comes to pairing fanservice. Oh well.

I think it was smart of them to push the AU Konoha characters and Akatsuki. That got a lot of people excited. That Road to Ninja manga one shot and movie promos were dripping with fanservice and that got people to check out the movie. If they pushed Sakura, it wouldn't have done as well since not everyone likes or cares about her.

The only criticisms I see about the movie was the disappointment the Konoha kids and Akatsuki were not in it as much as the promos made it seem they were. The main point of the movie was Naruto with his parents.

[Codus N]

The only criticisms I see about the movie was the disappointment the Konoha kids and Akatsuki were not in it as much as the promos made it seem they were. The main point of the movie was Naruto with his parents.

That, and Kushina had next to none fight scenes. Dammit, Kishi why must you troll perhaps the most badass female in the series!!

[Nefertieh]

For all we know, there were probably there. After all, it's over a million comments. If that's the case, I am shocked that they dismissed them and chose something that directly comments on Naruto and Sakura in a romantic light. You would think that they will ignore those comments. In fact, who chose these comments? Either way, it's still shocking that they acknowledge Naruto winning Sakura's heart as part of the story, let alone a theme.

The cynic in me thinks that those 25 comments that were chosen were probably selected from about 100 or so random comments from that huge pile. I doubt anybody has the time to do nothing but to read half a million comments. Perhaps it was just a coincidence that some narusaku comments were chosen. But perhaps not.

Is this movie considered canon by Kishi or not? And if it is considered canon, what placement in the story is it in?

It depends on how you define "canon." If you consider anything written by the original author to be canon, then yes, the movie is canon. If you consider something canon only if it is consistent with the manga timeline of events, then no, the movie isn't canon. I've seen debates about this, most people just agree it' semi-canon.

In Japan, a Naruto and Sakura plotline focus draws a movie audience more than anything else for a Naruto movie in the past 4 years!

Actually I have a feeling that a lot of other shippers went to see it just for AU Hinata and AU Sasuke. The advertisements were a red herring and the fans took the bait. Somebody on NF said some other fan spent $700 to watch the movie, presumably somebody from Korea who flew to Japan, and was extremely upset for the lack of Sasuke.

[Don-kun]

Ah, I see. I understand, but I still stand by my opinion that it's just as negative. Of course, this is a matter of differing opinions. The way I see it, being negative emotionally is just as bad as both (physically and emotionally).

BTW, love your sig.

Why are you making a big deal out of nothing, Naruto didn't chose not to tell Sakura, Kakashi stops him to avoid the Uchiha clan being bad mouthed plus they could not trust Tobi, Sasuke's action was more reason for Konoha to hate him since he went against his brother will and join a criminal organization. Itachi also asks him not to tell anyone. Rockies decision to kill Sasuke, didn't Sai told Naruto why Sakura couldn't tell him the truth? You are making a big scenario where they aren't one. Keeping secret can be level has not been completely honest with someone because you are trying to protect them from hurt while hurting them at the same time, but
Sakura trying to kill Sasuke and Sasuke close to killing her is negative and is very ludacris to level NS with SS in the negative aspect.