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#48061 Nar123

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 03:43 PM

This is perfect guys...

 

 

 

You know what I think about Sakura? This is less about Sasuke and more about herself. See, as person who dislikes Sakura, I actually think that because I’m not biased with fanfiction interpretations that I have a better grasp of Sakura’s character than some people who love her. Sakura, despite her bravado, is not a person of real confidence. She has low self-esteem and very little self-worth. I think that part of the reason she is so hung up on Sasuke is its a sense of validation for herself. She was shy, friendless, unpopular, and overlooked as a child. She liked Sasuke, but even better, to be acknowledged by someone everyone likes, everyone admires, that would make her special. That would make her somebody worthwhile, right? Of course I do believe that Sakura does have feelings for Sasuke, but is she really in love with Sasuke the person, or is it the idea of him? That he doesn’t notice her or pay attention to her only makes this insecurity worse. Sakura is constantly angsting over not doing enough, not fitting in on her team, not belonging or being someone of necessity. As stated (in the only time she ever elaborates on her feelings) she is attracted to Sasuke because he’s attractive, talented, and “cool”. A person who personifies, in essence, everything she believes herself not to be. God, there’s so much to say about this really, but I’ll save it for later. 

It’s part of why Sasusaku is such an out of left field idea to me. Sasusaku shippers portray the ship as the exact same way that leads Sakura’s problematic behavior. They ship it because they love the idea of Sakura being the “special one” who is the exeption to Sasuke’s personality and his greatest weakness and is the “fangirl who’s different from all the other girls”, which is so irritating because she’s not. Sakura is the antithesis of these concepts. There is nothing different or special about Sakura’s love. There is nothing different or special about her as far as relating to Sasuke goes. As I detailed in my previous posts, she doesn’t know him, she’s doesn’t understand him, she doesn’t even have a basic grasp on the concepts that are necessary for those things. Sasuke has not singled her out. She doesn’t appeal to him or interest him. She doesn’t challenge him in any emotional, mental, or physical way. They’re not even close. What does Sasuke even know about Sakura, or understand about her? Sakura, as far as Sasusaku goes, has nothing different or special about their relationship or dynamic that couldn’t be done by any other generic fangirl. Absolutely nothing. Nothing that transpired between them is anything that wouldn’t have happened had any other fangirl been placed on his team. That’s really the only thing Sakura had going for her or that seperates her from, I don’t know, Ino. Do any of you Sasusakus honestly think that if Ino was on his team that he wouldn’t have saved her life? That he wouldn’t have grown to care for her as a teammate? That he wouldn’t have thanked her for caring about him? That he would have left her to die? Or treated her like dirt on the bottom of his shoe? Do you really think that these “Sasusaku proofs of love” aren’t just generic kitten that would come with virtually any other teammate, and is actually something unique that would only be there with Sakura?

'Cause see, that’s my whole thing. Can’t say that about Naruto. I can’t say that if Kiba had been his teammate, everything about their relationship would be more or less exactly the same. Or Shikamaru. Or Chouji. Or Neji. ‘Cause you see, the manga has shown me this. Its shown me the depth, the reason, the relationship, the uniqueness between the two. In fact, while reading this I bet you were thinking of how different the dynamics would have been between Sasuke and those male characters, because, surprise surprise, there is actually something substantial there that can’t be replicated and receive the same results. Seriously, replace Ino with Sakura and think of what would change in regards to Sasuke. Ino would have cared. Ino would have tried to stop him. Seeing as how there are no substantial moments of bonding or exclusivity between the two, there is nothing that would have happened that Ino couldn’t fill in for. Sasuke waxed lyrical about Naruto and how much he’s always loved him and the ways in which he enriched his life for two straight chapters while Sakura got no mention (except, of course, in the Team 7 picture where he refers to them as such). Sakura was just afforded the opportunity of being the closest girl around and female main character with her legs always wide open and ready with basically no standards or expectations. 

For f**cks sake, Sakura literally has nothing to do with Sasuke’s character or story arc. Seriously, delete Sakura from the manga and tell me what about Sasuke’s person or journey as character throughout the story changes. Please. Tell me something that would have affected his plot if some other girl with healing powers were on his team.

I’m just saying, there is nothing inside of Sasusaku. Nothing at all. Kishimoto doesn’t give a kitten about this pairing (lol I don’t know how they got together I don’t want any SS in the pairings movie there wasn’t gonna be any in the Bolt movie either but the SS fans are complaining so I guess I’ll come up with something here have a family pic of Sasuke looking like he’s about to run away as soon as the camera flashes and a Karin lookalike child who feels neglected), and it cannot become more apparent how little actual thought goes into this ship. Its just a vicarious fantasy ship where Sasuke is standard shoujo angsty bad boy bishie and Sakura is “independent, normal girl who’s different from all the rest” which is pretty much the antithesis of these characters. 

But I think the worse part, the really bad thing about it, is it supports a Sakura never growing up. It takes all those things (the potential for self-reflection and learning to be a person who doesn’t need others to feel worth something) and throws it in the garbage as the blind quest for Sasuke’s kitten goes on forevermore. All the pathetic kitten will forever be apart of her as she dusts a house for a husband who comes home twice a year, who has a child who feels neglected, and she is happy with her dysfunctional family because Sasuke-kun’s anything is enough. I don’t even kittening like Sakura, but that anyone is defending that anything about what her character turned into is satisfactory and good is honestly some disheartening kitten

 

 

 

THIS is why i hate SS so much...even more than NH

 

And even though i like Sakura's character, SS destroys it for me....


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#48062 Princess Iris

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 03:44 PM

wow what country do you live in?


I wouldn't like to name it

sorry

and here, some regions are quite developed in that respect while some are opposite

#48063 NarutoUzumaki01

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 03:45 PM

This is perfect guys...

 

 

 

 

 

THIS is why i hate SS so much...even more than NH

 

And even though i like Sakura's character, SS destroys it for me....

lol



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Posted 06 January 2015 - 03:48 PM

You know, as beautiful Ch.698 was, the things Sasuke said in that chapter out of all a sudden felt like a bad asspull to me. Being forced to listen to a few lines from Naruto b/c of the loss of their limbs was all it took to pull Sasuke back to the good side?! My brother and I literally thought to ourselves:"THAT'S IT?! That's all it took for Sauce to be converted?!"

I had to go back and read it because I had forgotten it on purpose. :zaru: ( I'm not kidding....I didn't even like 698...well I suppose there were good parts but it seemed more like Kishi sweeping kitten under the rug as usual so he could take the easy way out.)

Sasuke's main character flaws have always been his jealousy and his pride, both of which have always allowed him to be easily manipulated. Him being jealous of Naruto who was hated and scorned, while he was beloved by the village and praised at every turn is kittening laughable. But I get that he was jealous of Naruto's innate inner strength, because before these last few chapters +movie I was too :hm:


 


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Posted 06 January 2015 - 03:56 PM

Sasuke's main character flaws have always been his jealousy and his pride, both of which have always allowed him to be easily manipulated. Him being jealous of Naruto who was hated and scorned, while he was beloved by the village and praised at every turn is kittening laughable. But I get that he was jealous of Naruto's innate inner strength, because before these last few chapters +movie I was too :hm:

 

I get why Sasuke would be jealous of Naruto; it's because Naruto had the guts Sasuke lacked to try to have people acknowledge him even if he was hated and scorned as a Jinchuriki, which made Sasuke think Naruto was weak since he foolishly often thought loneliness and pain made you strong. And he couldn't get why someone who was lonely like him would try to reach out for camaraderie and affection.



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Posted 06 January 2015 - 04:00 PM

it his highly men dominated

girl...if breaks up is a terrible woman
& guy..

It.doesn't always go that way and you do know that :/

I mean....there are good guys too! There are mature guys out there who understand what is wrong. A bad breakup takes al toll on our emotions too. Its not just girls :/ Sure...there are 'use and throw' guys and I don't deny thay but.....there are good guys as well who are not the usual stereotypes...

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 04:02 PM

I wouldn't like to name it

sorry

and here, some regions are quite developed in that respect while some are opposite

 

LOL. I know where you live. I've read your "Location" before. But shh..


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Posted 06 January 2015 - 04:05 PM

Aaaah SS..... Most of their reasons about the couple are:

-Sasuke looks hot

-Sakura is hottie (only with Sasuke)

-Aphrodisiac pair

-Testosterones at maximum

-Ovulating at maximum

-Hot hot hot couple


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Posted 06 January 2015 - 04:06 PM

Hinata: *literally about to die* I love you!
Naruto: …okay…
Naruto: *three years later while trapped in an illusion* Oh kitten she was serious

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 04:06 PM

I see. Sigh. I can't stand one gender dominates another. I just can't. I was so hoping for Naruto to do something about it. Man, I was dead wrong. Wrong man got the concept.

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 04:08 PM

It.doesn't always go that way and you do know that :/

I mean....there are good guys too! There are mature guys out there who understand what is wrong. A bad breakup takes al toll on our emotions too. Its not just girls :/ Sure...there are 'use and throw' guys and I don't deny thay but.....there are good guys as well who are not the usual stereotypes...




well,
that's not only problem

I've been facing problem regarding my edication tho lol...


I am a girl, so ... Men & even women in my family don't like that I've gone this far! :wallbash:
that's a different problem


and u know, when I rejected a guy(since, I never loved him), I was hated by all his friend...

but I never loved him!! WTF can't I even reject a guy

PS: I really have a bad experience in terms of love...

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 04:09 PM

 

I get why Sasuke would be jealous of Naruto; it's because Naruto had the guts Sasuke lacked to try to have people acknowledge him even if he was hated and scorned as a Jinchuriki, which made Sasuke think Naruto was weak since he foolishly often thought loneliness and pain made you strong. And he couldn't get why someone who was lonely like him would try to reach out for camaraderie and affection.

Like I said, I get it I just think its kittening stupid :zaru:

Then again, Sasuke's a jealous, prideful character by nature. Of course he would be jealous of even the smallest of things that someone does better then him. As I've said, Sasuke is easily manipulated and easily swayed. Itachi told him to hate and live only to grow strong, and what does he do? He lives to hate and only grow strong. Even when he was showered with praise and surrounded by smiling faces he was still festering. 

Naruto, when he had every reason to do the opposite, when at every turn he was faced with opposition and sneers he didn't learn to hate, he kept waiting for a chance to love and be loved. 

This story would have been so much better with Sasuke as a final villain rather then a wishywashy weenie who couldn't make heads or tails of himself half the time.  

 


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Posted 06 January 2015 - 04:18 PM

Where officially will the last be released besides the US an Philippines?

Singapore too, in feb.  My high school friends are already booking the tix  -_-


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Posted 06 January 2015 - 04:20 PM

Singapore too, in feb.  My high school friends are already booking the tix  -_-


wtf

It didn't spare Singapore too

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 04:23 PM

So far I've seen the Last to be released in the Phillippines, New Zealand, Australia, Singapore, the US... Did I forget a country? This movie is spreading like a virus!


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Posted 06 January 2015 - 04:24 PM

So far I've seen the Last to be released in the Phillippines, New Zealand, Australia, Singapore, the US... Did I forget a country? This movie is spreading like a virus!

 

almost like a worldwide release... What a shame.


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Posted 06 January 2015 - 04:28 PM

Like I said, I get it I just think its kittening stupid :zaru:

Then again, Sasuke's a jealous, prideful character by nature. Of course he would be jealous of even the smallest of things that someone does better then him. As I've said, Sasuke is easily manipulated and easily swayed. Itachi told him to hate and live only to grow strong, and what does he do? He lives to hate and only grow strong. Even when he was showered with praise and surrounded by smiling faces he was still festering. 

Naruto, when he had every reason to do the opposite, when at every turn he was faced with opposition and sneers he didn't learn to hate, he kept waiting for a chance to love and be loved. 

This story would have been so much better with Sasuke as a final villain rather then a wishywashy weenie who couldn't make heads or tails of himself half the time.  

 

I get the impression Sasuke's jealousy also stemmed toward Itachi, since he wanted Fugaku's approval like Itachi had, yet since he didn't know about the coup, he didn't realize at first Fugaku was only doing it to use Itachi's skills in the coup, and the fact that he had that inferiority complex from being the younger brother, in spite of the fact he was skilled too and just needed to find that way to get stronger.

 

Of course, Itachi didn't help the jealousy Sasuke had for him, since Sasuke even admitted he loved Itachi but he also hated him due to the attention he got. Plus we can't forget that Itachi intended for everything to fall into place with Sasuke killing him and being a hero, but it didn't since Itachi didn't trust in him and allowed things to go as they did because he tried to work alone.

 

But one question I wonder... was Sasuke always crazy? Or did the massacre just make him snap and further events such as the truth about Itachi and the fact he couldn't surpass him ever make it worse?



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Posted 06 January 2015 - 04:32 PM

This is perfect guys...
 
 
 
 
 
THIS is why i hate SS so much...even more than NH
 
And even though i like Sakura's character, SS destroys it for me....

Wow...just wow.

This is...yup. I kittening hate Kishi. I truly do. Who have thought our favorites would be the one to get assassinated. Unbelievable.

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 04:32 PM

If you think about it, last time Sasuke did something good for others - was in part 1 - he saved Karin.



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Posted 06 January 2015 - 04:34 PM

The girl, at first, was desperate for a boyfriend even went as far to just snap a photo of a random guy in the street. I agree, the story is really insulting for girls and women, the heroine was wagging her tail merrily skipping beside the guy who treats her like an anime.

So much. But apparently women cannot function if they have no boyfriend.  :zaru:

Had I been the girl I would have kneed him in the nads so hard he'd spit them out.  :hm:

He even wanted her to bark, and when he jokingly told her he'd buy her a dog-collar for christmas, she said 'ok, whatever you want to buy me will make me happy.'

EXCUSE ME, BUT WTF?!?!!??  :facepalm:

 

  


Ok. Both these answers make sense even if I find them to be really problematic.

So is it fair to say NS shippers are the only ones who cared about the pairing because it made sense based on the plot and logic of the manga?

On plot and logic of a typical manga? Yes, definitely, it was the logical path to follow in canon. In fanon people (and tards) can do whatever the hell they want, but in canon, NS was what should have happened.

I personally ship it because out of all the others it was what I'd would have preferred my relationship to be like if I were in Sakura's place, a light, funny relationship based on mutual respect and that has as bases a very strong friendship. But then we got Sauce who's never home and left Sakura to dust and look after their daughter and NH with a stalker-like, obsessed I-dont-care-about-anythingbut-Nardo-kon psycho for a wife and 'the worst scumbag I-liked-you-only-for-rivalry-with-the-Sauce' husband.  :zaru:

 

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