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#4781 Living Lavish

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 05:00 PM

QUOTE (Kim @ Jul 26 2011, 08:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well Leo-chan, I put 90% because of what Boom...Winning said before you(I don't feel like repeating it) and Sasuke saved her a couple of times so that could count as being good...
I'm really not sure about NaruSasu but the fact that they have the strongest bond in the series in indisputable. Naruto still thinks of him as a brother and best friend even after all he's done. I don't know if he would go through as much as he did if it were anyone else.


actually sasuke protected her in the forest that one time. on the other hand Naruto was the one always saving her. she even says this during the POAL. ''he always helped me''


i love NaruSasu a deep bond right aong with Narusaku imo.

Edited by Living Lavish, 26 July 2011 - 05:00 PM.


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Posted 26 July 2011 - 05:36 PM

QUOTE (Kim @ Jul 26 2011, 06:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually think he protected her at least twice in the forest(there was a lot going on, I can't remember how it went exactly) and don't forget about that one time at the beginning of the Zabuza arc.



I agree with this. But in the end I don't think their bond will be broken, even if Sasuke dies Naruto will still hold onto it. Sad, but I think it's highly likely. That's why I can't help viewing Naruto' bond to Sakura as second best, even if it isn't the same type.


naw (Lee was trying to help Sakura) it was once he protected her in the forest just when he woke up and was curious to try hes new power. i just went back to it.

but anyway Naruto is the one who always protects her partly because Sakura trusts in him completely. he has done more for Sakura then Lee and Sasuke combined.

Edited by Living Lavish, 26 July 2011 - 05:42 PM.


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Posted 26 July 2011 - 06:08 PM

QUOTE (Kim @ Jul 26 2011, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's why I can't help viewing Naruto' bond to Sakura as second best, even if it isn't the same type.


I think it's tough to compare the two bonds, since, assuming Naruto and Sakura have romantic feelings for each other, they're different types of bonds. Naruto sees Sasuke as a brother/rival/best friend, while his bond with Sakura seems to be shown in a different light than that of a friendship.
I suppose if we see his bond with her as that of best friend, then I guess it's fair to say his bond with Sakura is way less important than his bond with Sasuke. But, on the other hand, it might just seem that way based on the situation. Naruto's bond with Sasuke is the one in jeapardy for most of Part II, so of course that's the bond that's displayed most often.

As far as not being able to move forward because of Naruto having another bond, I don't think that's entirely true. There's probably better examples, but Fullmetal Alchemist is the first one that comes to my mind. I'd argue that the bond between the brothers was way more imporant than anything else, but that certainly didn't stop Ed and Winry from moving forward in a romantic sense. Naruto and Sasuke aren't blood brothers, but if we see their bond as such, the example sort of works. If Naruto really sees Sasuke as a brother, then I don't really think he would have to relegate that relationship to be with Sakura in the end.
But, I don't know, maybe I'm missing something.


QUOTE (Living Lavish @ Jul 26 2011, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
naw it was once he protected her in the forest just when when woke up and was curious to try hes new power. i just went back to it.


He's protected her multiple times inadvertently while protecting himself/the whole team, but the Forest of Death scene was the only real time I can think of where he protects her for the sake of protecting her (although he probably cared more about testing out the Curse Mark). I don't think it really matters too much though, considering he does a completely 180 on protecting her during the Iron Country fight.

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 06:21 PM

QUOTE (Boom...Winning @ Jul 26 2011, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it's tough to compare the two bonds, since, assuming Naruto and Sakura have romantic feelings for each other, they're different types of bonds. Naruto sees Sasuke as a brother/rival/best friend, while his bond with Sakura seems to be shown in a different light than that of a friendship.
I suppose if we see his bond with her as that of best friend, then I guess it's fair to say his bond with Sakura is way less important than his bond with Sasuke. But, on the other hand, it might just seem that way based on the situation. Naruto's bond with Sasuke is the one in jeapardy for most of Part II, so of course that's the bond that's displayed most often.

As far as not being able to move forward because of Naruto having another bond, I don't think that's entirely true. There's probably better examples, but Fullmetal Alchemist is the first one that comes to my mind. I'd argue that the bond between the brothers was way more imporant than anything else, but that certainly didn't stop Ed and Winry from moving forward in a romantic sense. Naruto and Sasuke aren't blood brothers, but if we see their bond as such, the example sort of works. If Naruto really sees Sasuke as a brother, then I don't really think he would have to relegate that relationship to be with Sakura in the end.
But, I don't know, maybe I'm missing something.


you're not missing anything. this post is spot on and truthful.


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He's protected her multiple times inadvertently while protecting himself/the whole team, but the Forest of Death scene was the only real time I can think of where he protects her for the sake of protecting her (although he probably cared more about testing out the Curse Mark). I don't think it really matters too much though, considering he does a completely 180 on protecting her during the Iron Country fight.


it never did matter, im just making a point. but your 100% right. since Sasuke was the strongest from the rest at the time he was thoughtful of Team 7 all together.

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 06:23 PM

^^ Well, maybe he was just thoughtful just because he has to, for whatever reason, before he becomes the snake and his goal in killing Itachi and thirst for power consumes him.

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 07:05 PM

QUOTE (Boom...Winning @ Jul 26 2011, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it's tough to compare the two bonds, since, assuming Naruto and Sakura have romantic feelings for each other, they're different types of bonds. Naruto sees Sasuke as a brother/rival/best friend, while his bond with Sakura seems to be shown in a different light than that of a friendship.
I suppose if we see his bond with her as that of best friend, then I guess it's fair to say his bond with Sakura is way less important than his bond with Sasuke. But, on the other hand, it might just seem that way based on the situation. Naruto's bond with Sasuke is the one in jeapardy for most of Part II, so of course that's the bond that's displayed most often.

As far as not being able to move forward because of Naruto having another bond, I don't think that's entirely true. There's probably better examples, but Fullmetal Alchemist is the first one that comes to my mind. I'd argue that the bond between the brothers was way more imporant than anything else, but that certainly didn't stop Ed and Winry from moving forward in a romantic sense. Naruto and Sasuke aren't blood brothers, but if we see their bond as such, the example sort of works. If Naruto really sees Sasuke as a brother, then I don't really think he would have to relegate that relationship to be with Sakura in the end.
But, I don't know, maybe I'm missing something.

I like thinking of it in terms of FMA, it does make sense that way. But for Naruto, that brotherhood bond is only one-sided. That's what bothers me: their relationship is based on rivalry than on love (brotherly or otherwise). Ed/Win comes second to the brotherhood bond of Ed/Al. And Naruto does talk to Itachi about Sasuke as a brother.... Yet it's hard to compare a healthy bond of Ed/Al to the majorly screwed up bond of Naru/PsychoSasuke.

Anyway, I'm just hoping Sakura gets some respect, and that the manga doesn't end with her simply being one of the clamoring masses that loves Naruto, while her storyline is neatly packed away as the girl who loved him. Not as someone who will grow to be more powerful than Tsunade. Like you said, right now, as Naruto's best friend, she is second to Sasuke in importance and focus. There is an implied closeness, but nothing outright. Hopefully Kishimoto will flesh out the plot, having Naruto move on from his obsession with Sasuke once it is resolved, and recognize Sakura. Not just have them kissing in an epilogue somewhere.

i hope i'm making sense

Edited by tricksie, 26 July 2011 - 07:06 PM.


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Posted 26 July 2011 - 08:29 PM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Jul 26 2011, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like thinking of it in terms of FMA, it does make sense that way. But for Naruto, that brotherhood bond is only one-sided. That's what bothers me: their relationship is based on rivalry than on love (brotherly or otherwise). Ed/Win comes second to the brotherhood bond of Ed/Al. And Naruto does talk to Itachi about Sasuke as a brother.... Yet it's hard to compare a healthy bond of Ed/Al to the majorly screwed up bond of Naru/PsychoSasuke.

Anyway, I'm just hoping Sakura gets some respect, and that the manga doesn't end with her simply being one of the clamoring masses that loves Naruto, while her storyline is neatly packed away as the girl who loved him. Not as someone who will grow to be more powerful than Tsunade. Like you said, right now, as Naruto's best friend, she is second to Sasuke in importance and focus. There is an implied closeness, but nothing outright. Hopefully Kishimoto will flesh out the plot, having Naruto move on from his obsession with Sasuke once it is resolved, and recognize Sakura. Not just have them kissing in an epilogue somewhere.

i hope i'm making sense

I couldnt have explained the FMA bonds any better. And I agree want Sakura to get alittle more respect. Im hoping we get like a few chapter dedicated to her.

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 08:46 PM

^^ Don't worry, its coming soon man, I said it before and I'll say it again, she needs to do something big to prove that this pairing is for real and is here to stay. The question is what big thing would that be? Any ideas?

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 09:27 PM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Jul 26 2011, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like thinking of it in terms of FMA, it does make sense that way. But for Naruto, that brotherhood bond is only one-sided. That's what bothers me: their relationship is based on rivalry than on love (brotherly or otherwise). Ed/Win comes second to the brotherhood bond of Ed/Al. And Naruto does talk to Itachi about Sasuke as a brother.... Yet it's hard to compare a healthy bond of Ed/Al to the majorly screwed up bond of Naru/PsychoSasuke.

Anyway, I'm just hoping Sakura gets some respect, and that the manga doesn't end with her simply being one of the clamoring masses that loves Naruto, while her storyline is neatly packed away as the girl who loved him. Not as someone who will grow to be more powerful than Tsunade. Like you said, right now, as Naruto's best friend, she is second to Sasuke in importance and focus. There is an implied closeness, but nothing outright. Hopefully Kishimoto will flesh out the plot, having Naruto move on from his obsession with Sasuke once it is resolved, and recognize Sakura. Not just have them kissing in an epilogue somewhere.

i hope i'm making sense


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Posted 27 July 2011 - 02:28 AM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Jul 26 2011, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like thinking of it in terms of FMA, it does make sense that way. But for Naruto, that brotherhood bond is only one-sided. That's what bothers me: their relationship is based on rivalry than on love (brotherly or otherwise). Ed/Win comes second to the brotherhood bond of Ed/Al. And Naruto does talk to Itachi about Sasuke as a brother.... Yet it's hard to compare a healthy bond of Ed/Al to the majorly screwed up bond of Naru/PsychoSasuke.

Hmm, good point. The brotherly bond is very one-sided in Naruto/Sasuke's case. I think Sasuke might have reciprocated that bond to some extent in Part I (at the very least, he admitted Naruto was his best friend during the VotE fight), but it hasn't been shown in a very healthy light since Part II started, at least in my opinion.
I guess the FMA parallel I was trying to make (but probably failed, LOL) was in regards to Ed and Naruto's devotion to their 'brother', and how desperately they want to 'bring them back'. The metaphor is pretty strained, I know, especially considering the feelings of the 'brother' in question, but I guess I was just thinking that it might be similar in that Naruto could finally truly acknowledge his bond with Sakura without diminishing his bond with Sasuke.

But I guess, the more I think about it, the parallel might be pretty flimsy.

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Anyway, I'm just hoping Sakura gets some respect, and that the manga doesn't end with her simply being one of the clamoring masses that loves Naruto, while her storyline is neatly packed away as the girl who loved him. Not as someone who will grow to be more powerful than Tsunade. Like you said, right now, as Naruto's best friend, she is second to Sasuke in importance and focus. There is an implied closeness, but nothing outright.

I'd like to think she'll be included as a major part in the plot at least few more times before the end. The way the manga has been going, it's pretty much every Edo zombie fighting against some major person from their past. And who else would make more sense to fight Chiyo? Kankuro already fought Sasori, so it'd be a little redundant to give him another fight, in my opinion. Kimimaro is with Chiyo as well, so it might be a pretty cool 2-on-1 fight if Sakura could pull it off. As a medic-nin, she might have some compound that can break down bones or something. But maybe that sounds too fanfic-ish... tongue.gif

I think the whole Sasuke issue with her will have to be brought up again too. I know how some people here have come to certain conclusions after 540, but I'm personally of the mind that she still has some hang-ups to overcome. Once that's brought up again, I think that whole aspect of her character will be close to being resolved.

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Hopefully Kishimoto will flesh out the plot, having Naruto move on from his obsession with Sasuke once it is resolved, and recognize Sakura. Not just have them kissing in an epilogue somewhere.

I hope so too. I hope that once his bond with Sasuke is secure again, Naruto won't be so obsessive over it.

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i hope i'm making sense

LOL, you're making more sense than I've been. happy.gif

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 03:01 AM

QUOTE (Boom...Winning @ Jul 26 2011, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, good point. The brotherly bond is very one-sided in Naruto/Sasuke's case. I think Sasuke might have reciprocated that bond to some extent in Part I (at the very least, he admitted Naruto was his best friend during the VotE fight), but it hasn't been shown in a very healthy light since Part II started, at least in my opinion.
I guess the FMA parallel I was trying to make (but probably failed, LOL) was in regards to Ed and Naruto's devotion to their 'brother', and how desperately they want to 'bring them back'. The metaphor is pretty strained, I know, especially considering the feelings of the 'brother' in question, but I guess I was just thinking that it might be similar in that Naruto could finally truly acknowledge his bond with Sakura without diminishing his bond with Sasuke.

But I guess, the more I think about it, the parallel might be pretty flimsy.

No, the parallel is actually heartening! Naruto's determination is very much like Ed's. It's sometimes hard to still like Naruto after his frustrating pursuit of Sasuke, despite all odds. I mean, Sasuke really has turned to the dark side, and Naruto still persists (or did, up until Sakura's confession) in seeing Sasuke as unchanged. In real life terms, both those boys would be fodder for afternoon talk shows! But to see Naruto's bond in terms of brotherhood makes it much easier to understand.

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I'd like to think she'll be included as a major part in the plot at least few more times before the end. The way the manga has been going, it's pretty much every Edo zombie fighting against some major person from their past. And who else would make more sense to fight Chiyo? Kankuro already fought Sasori, so it'd be a little redundant to give him another fight, in my opinion. Kimimaro is with Chiyo as well, so it might be a pretty cool 2-on-1 fight if Sakura could pull it off. As a medic-nin, she might have some compound that can break down bones or something. But maybe that sounds too fanfic-ish... tongue.gif

lol - sounds good! I'd read it!

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 02:04 PM

QUOTE (Boom...Winning @ Jul 26 2011, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The brotherly bond is very one-sided in Naruto/Sasuke's case. ... but it hasn't been shown in a very healthy light since Part II started, at least in my opinion.

It's still a brotherly bond. Just that it's a "Cain & Abel" type bond. wink.gif

QUOTE (tricksie @ Jul 26 2011, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's sometimes hard to still like Naruto after his frustrating pursuit of Sasuke, despite all odds.

I remember in an advice column, that when starting a new relationship, people forget that the good qualities often have bad baggage tied to them. For example, a girl might like a guy who is cool and aloof, but then gets frustrated when he doesn't spend more time with her. Or a guy might look for a girl who is quiet and let's him take charge, but then gets frustrated that she never takes the initiative.

For Naruto, determination and obsessiveness is part of who he is, for both good and ill. It let's him learn rasengan and sage mode in record time, to beat Gaara despite the odds, to care for Sakura even when she hated him (due to misunderstanding). But it also makes it difficult for him to give up on Sasuke.

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 02:19 PM

^^ I agree. You see with the pros and cons of his determination and obessiviness, it makes him who he is and we all love him for it, so to say to give up on Sasuke would be ridiculous despite the odds because let's face it, this is Naruto, we're talking about.

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 04:37 PM

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I remember in an advice column, that when starting a new relationship, people forget that the good qualities often have bad baggage tied to them. For example, a girl might like a guy who is cool and aloof, but then gets frustrated when he doesn't spend more time with her. Or a guy might look for a girl who is quiet and let's him take charge, but then gets frustrated that she never takes the initiative.

For Naruto, determination and obsessiveness is part of who he is, for both good and ill. It let's him learn rasengan and sage mode in record time, to beat Gaara despite the odds, to care for Sakura even when she hated him (due to misunderstanding). But it also makes it difficult for him to give up on Sasuke.


I would have to agree with you Red I cant really say anything cause you said all I was going to say.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 11:53 PM

I've been mulling something over in my head for a while, but I never really cared enough to bring it up. But seeing how quiet the Debate Thread's gotten (*watches tumbleweed roll by*), and considering recent events in the manga, I thought I'd bring it up.

Despite being a member of Squad 7, Sakura is still in the dark about the 'truth' behind the Uchiha clan massacre. I was sort of wondering if she would find out off-panel, before the war started, but Naruto's conversation with Itachi made it apparent that no one in Konoha other than Naruto, Kakashi, and Yamato know about it.
So my question is this. When Sakura discovers the reason behind Sasuke's descent into madness, how will she react? Will she still condemn him? Or, will she understand Sasuke's motivations, like Naruto?
If the latter happens, how will that affect the romantic subplot? I'm personally of the mind (hopefully I don't enrage too many people) that she still has minor hang-ups over Sasuke (at least on some level), and that getting over those unhealthy feelings will be one of the last hurdles of her character. If she understands Sasuke's motivations, does anyone think that will affect her final romantic decision (picking Naruto over Sasuke)?

I'm sort of playing devil's advocate, so I hope I don't get pounced on by too many people. Too be honest, it's hard for me tell what's going on with with the romantic subplot nowadays. I'm sure NaruSaku is Kishi's endgame, but it's the path he's taking that I'm having a tough time understanding.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 12:27 AM

QUOTE (Boom...Winning @ Jul 28 2011, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've been mulling something over in my head for a while, but I never really cared enough to bring it up. But seeing how quiet the Debate Thread's gotten (*watches tumbleweed roll by*), and considering recent events in the manga, I thought I'd bring it up.

Despite being a member of Squad 7, Sakura is still in the dark about the 'truth' behind the Uchiha clan massacre. I was sort of wondering if she would find out off-panel, before the war started, but Naruto's conversation with Itachi made it apparent that no one in Konoha other than Naruto, Kakashi, and Yamato know about it.
So my question is this. When Sakura discovers the reason behind Sasuke's descent into madness, how will she react? Will she still condemn him? Or, will she understand Sasuke's motivations, like Naruto?
If the latter happens, how will that affect the romantic subplot? I'm personally of the mind (hopefully I don't enrage too many people) that she still has minor hang-ups over Sasuke (at least on some level), and that getting over those unhealthy feelings will be one of the last hurdles of her character. If she understands Sasuke's motivations, does anyone think that will affect her final romantic decision (picking Naruto over Sasuke)?

I'm sort of playing devil's advocate, so I hope I don't get pounced on by too many people. Too be honest, it's hard for me tell what's going on with with the romantic subplot nowadays. I'm sure NaruSaku is Kishi's endgame, but it's the path he's taking that I'm having a tough time understanding.

That's definitely something interesting to think about.

Personally, I don't think that learning the truth about Itachi excuses the things that Sasuke has done since murdering his brother and being picked up by Madara. He is spitting on Itachi's memory and his final wishes by targeting Konoha, and deciding to slaughter innocents simply because they are ignorant of Itachi's sacrifice for them. It also doesn't change how Sasuke treated Sakura, before he left Konoha (telling her to shut up and mind her own business, slapping the apples out of her hand, etc.) nor after he left Konoha (multiple murder attempts).

Honestly though, there wouldn't be much point in a literary sense for deliberately hiding it from Sakura if it didn't make some sort of impact later - right?

Hopefully, Sakura won't believe it justifies Sasuke's actions. Hopefully, when Sasuke is redeemed (as I'm almost positive that he will be in the end), there will be some consequences for his actions ; either he's redeemed through death or redeemed through becoming a wandering (possibly blind) rogue nin.

I definitely agree with you that Sakura working through whatever lingering feelings she has for Sasuke, and coming to terms with the person that Sasuke has become is her last hurdle for character development. It seems to fit and follow naturally from what has been shown in the manga thus far.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 03:22 AM

QUOTE (Paptala @ Jul 28 2011, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's definitely something interesting to think about.

Personally, I don't think that learning the truth about Itachi excuses the things that Sasuke has done since murdering his brother and being picked up by Madara. He is spitting on Itachi's memory and his final wishes by targeting Konoha, and deciding to slaughter innocents simply because they are ignorant of Itachi's sacrifice for them. It also doesn't change how Sasuke treated Sakura, before he left Konoha (telling her to shut up and mind her own business, slapping the apples out of her hand, etc.) nor after he left Konoha (multiple murder attempts).

I agree, it seems insane that uncovering such a revelation would make her fall in love with him again. Even when he was at his best, he still treated the poor girl like a nuisance. Hardly a positive message for female readers. It also seems crazy to me that she'd be able to completely forgive him after he tried to kill her, simply because of his 'situation'.

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Honestly though, there wouldn't be much point in a literary sense for deliberately hiding it from Sakura if it didn't make some sort of impact later - right?

Hopefully, Sakura won't believe it justifies Sasuke's actions. Hopefully, when Sasuke is redeemed (as I'm almost positive that he will be in the end), there will be some consequences for his actions ; either he's redeemed through death or redeemed through becoming a wandering (possibly blind) rogue nin.

That's what bothers me. She was present when Naruto mentioned being aware of his reasoning. So she obviously knows something's up, but she hasn't found out about it. I'm guessing it'll have some impact, and I'd like to think that it'll play a part in her forgiving him (if Sakura is so much like Naruto, it seems natural to me that they'd both forgive him at some point), but I feel like too much has happened between them for that forgiveness to entail falling back in love with him. I think that negative image of Sasuke she had in 540 might play into that. She knows he has a reason for doing what he's doing, but is still having negative thoughts about him. It's also important to note how, even after discovering he has a 'reason', she gets visibly upset when Sasuke badmouths Naruto. I think that's a good indication of where her feelings are moving towards.

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I definitely agree with you that Sakura working through whatever lingering feelings she has for Sasuke, and coming to terms with the person that Sasuke has become is her last hurdle for character development. It seems to fit and follow naturally from what has been shown in the manga thus far.

Definitely. Those feelings were a big part of her character in Part I, so naturally, resolving those feelings as a conflict is a huge part of her character development. Her feelings are obviously moving in one direction, so I guess that's what really matters happy.gif .

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 04:44 AM

QUOTE (Boom...Winning @ Jul 28 2011, 11:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've been mulling something over in my head for a while, but I never really cared enough to bring it up. But seeing how quiet the Debate Thread's gotten (*watches tumbleweed roll by*), and considering recent events in the manga, I thought I'd bring it up.

Despite being a member of Squad 7, Sakura is still in the dark about the 'truth' behind the Uchiha clan massacre. I was sort of wondering if she would find out off-panel, before the war started, but Naruto's conversation with Itachi made it apparent that no one in Konoha other than Naruto, Kakashi, and Yamato know about it.
So my question is this. When Sakura discovers the reason behind Sasuke's descent into madness, how will she react? Will she still condemn him? Or, will she understand Sasuke's motivations, like Naruto?
If the latter happens, how will that affect the romantic subplot? I'm personally of the mind (hopefully I don't enrage too many people) that she still has minor hang-ups over Sasuke (at least on some level), and that getting over those unhealthy feelings will be one of the last hurdles of her character. If she understands Sasuke's motivations, does anyone think that will affect her final romantic decision (picking Naruto over Sasuke)?

I'm sort of playing devil's advocate, so I hope I don't get pounced on by too many people. Too be honest, it's hard for me tell what's going on with with the romantic subplot nowadays. I'm sure NaruSaku is Kishi's endgame, but it's the path he's taking that I'm having a tough time understanding.



QUOTE (Paptala @ Jul 29 2011, 12:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's definitely something interesting to think about.

Personally, I don't think that learning the truth about Itachi excuses the things that Sasuke has done since murdering his brother and being picked up by Madara. He is spitting on Itachi's memory and his final wishes by targeting Konoha, and deciding to slaughter innocents simply because they are ignorant of Itachi's sacrifice for them. It also doesn't change how Sasuke treated Sakura, before he left Konoha (telling her to shut up and mind her own business, slapping the apples out of her hand, etc.) nor after he left Konoha (multiple murder attempts).

Honestly though, there wouldn't be much point in a literary sense for deliberately hiding it from Sakura if it didn't make some sort of impact later - right?

Hopefully, Sakura won't believe it justifies Sasuke's actions. Hopefully, when Sasuke is redeemed (as I'm almost positive that he will be in the end), there will be some consequences for his actions ; either he's redeemed through death or redeemed through becoming a wandering (possibly blind) rogue nin.

I definitely agree with you that Sakura working through whatever lingering feelings she has for Sasuke, and coming to terms with the person that Sasuke has become is her last hurdle for character development. It seems to fit and follow naturally from what has been shown in the manga thus far.


Actually I see it as potential For Sakura to roll over back to Sasuke too It sounds cynical I know but we have no proof Sakura is over him completely that's shown in the 540 scene that caused that annoying new SS uprising *headache* blowup.gif

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 04:57 AM

^^ Argggggggggggggggggg, dang it, I thought, at this point, we would be at the phase where she's either over or close to over him despite 540. Sigh........., if she winds up with Sasuke in the end that pretty much kills Shippuden Sakura's personality and development and I and everyone else here loves Shippuden Sakura's personality and development.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 05:23 AM

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Actually I see it as potential For Sakura to roll over back to Sasuke too It sounds cynical I know but we have no proof Sakura is over him completely that's shown in the 540 scene that caused that annoying new SS uprising *headache* blowup.gif


nah he completely went against what Itachi wanted for him and says hes gonna slaughter everyone in Konoha etc. Sakura wouldn't stand for that.
she will forgive him in the end for his reason, but that doesn't mean she gonna fall for him all over again. she loves sasuke yeah but her growing feelings for Naruto seem alot stronger even if she doesn't understand them yet.

540 proved how negative her feelings are becoming more then anything.


SS uprising? LOL i see alot of people bashing Sakura more then ever now.


can't wait tell the next NS moment.




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